Hi Andrew. When I was living on DC I used to go to a gas station new Mt Airy 
Maryland and buy B100 at the pump. I would fill up my tank and then another 
four five gallon yellow diesel fuel containers in my trunk. This would last me 
about three months. 

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On Jul 16, 2011, at 4:40 PM, andrew strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> wrote:

I have pretty much ruled out becoming a home distiller after reading  all
these excellent posts.  The better choice would appear to be installing a
system in the car to burn filtered WVO.

On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 1:21 PM, ernest breakfield <
erne...@backyardengineering.org> wrote:

Andrew,

  will find much information and disinformation on the topic of BioD here
and elsewhere. (for example, the horror stories you hear about BioD eating
fuel lines; i've got over 70,000 miles on almost exclusively straight BioD
on the same fuel lines that were in my '85 300D when i started using BioD
over 7 years ago, and there still hasn't been any evidence of any need to
change them. all you need to do if you're using quality fuel is watch them
like you'd watch any other fuel lines from a previous decade, and change
them out when they show signs of needing it.)

  as for availability of source oil, it's unlikely that anyone outside of
your area will be able to tell you what the actual availability is in your
area, and even then it'll vary from restaurant to restaurant. (generally,
cleaner/less used WVO is better; sushi joints usually have cleaner and less
overused oil than burger joints.)

  bottom line, if it's only cost effectiveness you're looking for you have
to figure out if it's even worth it to you to go through the hassles of
making BioD. even if the source oil is free and your time is worth nothing,
how much would you need to use before the savings would pay for the
equipment and the energy to run it? if you're only using ~10G/wk, it'd be
over a year before you even paid for the equipment, and we're still not
counting the cost of any of the chemicals.
  (i'm not even going to get into the byproduct waste disposal issue or
the concerns about having some of those chemicals around, or the mess,...
and am ignoring the fear-mongering about jackbooted thugs hired by renderers
or our guvernment coming through your doors due to perceived tax and various
regulatory issues. but if you check into it, you might find we can't even
legally haul WVO without a renderers license and liability coverage!)

  if you're trying to use BioD for other reasons (like reducing petroleum
dependency, environmental concerns, or just the joy of experimental
hobbying,) your calculations of whether it's worth the fuss might be
different. in that case, i'd probably encourage searching our your local B99
vendor and buying commercially produced stuff, and let someone else deal
with all the issues.


cheers!
e



On 15/Jul/11 10:59, andrew strasfogel wrote:

We own three W123 turbodiesels so this is very tempting.  Cost is about
$1700 + $450 more for the "dry washing" feature.  We have lots of
restaurants that probably would be happy to get rid of their fryer
grease; the main snag might be the cost and ease of obtaining NAOH
(caustic
soda).  I also wonder how much lye and water is consumed per batch, and
what
the brew would do to our fuel lines.,

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