Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer cpu swap and Linux

2011-09-10 Thread Gerry Archer
Sometimes you can google something like network install and never find the answer to your question. In my case google assumed I was downloading something from a (local?) network, I suppose. Gerrywho probably does more Googling than anyone else on the list. '83 300D '83 240D

Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer cpu swap and Linux

2011-09-10 Thread Gerry Archer
I think I understand. It's like some large antivirus programs that send the installer as a file that you install, click on it, and it downloads the the large program more efficiently than your computer can by itself? by burning the installer to a disc, you skip the step of creating an image on

Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer cpu swap and Linux

2011-09-10 Thread Gerry Archer
Thanks, Tim. The how to link seems very clear. I'll use the 9.04 distro since it's now on the computer and then possibly try the 11.xx when the disc arrives. Gerry '83 300D '83 240D From: Tim C bb...@crone.us Gerry Archer wrote: How would I download a Ubuntu distro

Re: [MBZ] OT - Vintage Stereo

2011-09-10 Thread Dan Penoff
No, I would lean more to the mid and high ranges than the ghetto thump-thump bass. The Fisher has a single summed output that is perfect for a powered subwoofer, which was what I was planning on doing anyway. Any other comments or opinions on the Magnaplanars would be nice. I do recall these

[MBZ] OT: Computer cpu swap and Linux

2011-09-10 Thread Gerry Archer
Setting up Ubuntu Evolution email: The ISP Embarqmail doesn't provide information on setting up Ubuntu Evolution mail. I started setting it up and ran into the first question on screen 3 (Identity) of the Evolution Setup Assistant. Under Optional Information it asked for: Reply

Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer cpu swap and Linux

2011-09-10 Thread Douglas
Try Home Depot. -Original Message- From: Gerry Archer Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 11:50 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer cpu swap and Linux ___ That's rough, but at least you do have someplace you can

Re: [MBZ] s class seat removal

2011-09-10 Thread Jim Cathey
I like to remove the front seats of my mbz's for a variety of reasons. I have two s class cars (300sd 420 sel) and I can't see how to remove the wiring harness from the seats short of cutting the wires. This can't be right. Where is the wiring plug under the seats located? Tnx 126's? They

Re: [MBZ] OT - Vintage Stereo

2011-09-10 Thread Jim Cathey
Going to go and look at some Magnaplanar speakers tomorrow.  Should be interesting. Magnificent speakers. Some of the best imaging and sound ever available. Extremely room- and placement-sensitive. They _really_ want to be out in the room and not jammed against a wall or in a corner. Not

Re: [MBZ] OT: Other Mysteries of Craigslist

2011-09-10 Thread Jim Cathey
Direct (works) http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/2582262398.html Search (doesn't work) http://portland.craigslist.org/search/cta?query=500sel Yup, that's what I find too. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer cpu swap and Linux

2011-09-10 Thread Jim Cathey
My choices are crappy cable, crappy cellular, or dial-up. Is wi-fi available from anybody there? We get ours across about 10mi of valley using a basket antenna and a 1W amplifier on the side of the house. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and

Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer cpu swap and Linux

2011-09-10 Thread Gerry Archer
I'll try it. Thanks Gerry '83 300D '83 240D - Try Home Depot. -Original Message- From: Gerry Archer Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 11:50 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer cpu swap and Linux

Re: [MBZ] OT - Vintage Stereo

2011-09-10 Thread LWB250
The one concern I have about these is the limited power of my Fisher - about 28 watts per channel at 4 ohms.  According to everything I read, these speakers are pretty power hungry and require a fair amount of juice to really perform. I know they need new socks, which is not a big deal, but I

Re: [MBZ] OT: Other Mysteries of Craigslist

2011-09-10 Thread OK Don
Same here. No explaination though --- On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Direct (works) http://portland.craigslist.**org/mlt/cto/2582262398.htmlhttp://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/2582262398.html Search (doesn't work)

Re: [MBZ] OT - Vintage Stereo

2011-09-10 Thread w123wagon
I love my Maggies. As Jim said, they do not like to be close to the wall which is contrary to a decorators idea of properly balancing the visuals in a room. Luckily, I married the right woman. Wattage may be an issue. The bass may be non-existant. On the other hand, my '82 vintage Klipsch

Re: [MBZ] OT - Vintage Stereo

2011-09-10 Thread LWB250
I understand the placement issues, as I had looked at these types of speakers years ago. Fortunately, I don't see that being an issue in our new home. I do, however, have concerns about the Fisher being able to drive them adequately. The Fisher does have a summed center channel output, believe

[MBZ] Trans pressures

2011-09-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I need to check the pressures on this 190d tranny and this atsg book says to check the pressures against the chart but the book does not have such a chart. Anybody know what the 3 different pressures are supposed to be? Sent from my iPhone ___

Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer cpu swap and Linux

2011-09-10 Thread Mitch Haley
Jim Cathey wrote: My choices are crappy cable, crappy cellular, or dial-up. Is wi-fi available from anybody there? We get ours across about 10mi of valley using a basket antenna and a 1W amplifier on the side of the house. Funny, I recently got a 1000mw outdoor wifi unit with built in flat

Re: [MBZ] OT - Sort of - Car Insurance

2011-09-10 Thread Allan Streib
LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com writes: Guys - I pay over $6k/year for three 5-6 year old cars with no accident histories.  I do have a 19 year old in the house, but he gets a good student and good driver discount. Allstate is the first company I gave a chance to compete for my business, and they

Re: [MBZ] OT - Sort of - Car Insurance

2011-09-10 Thread Allan Streib
LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com writes: My attitude about that approach is that if I am such a good and loyal (30+ years) customer, why weren't they giving me the best deal up front?  If I do the ping-pong thing and they suddenly drop their prices, what does that tell me about their business ethic?

Re: [MBZ] OT - Vintage Stereo

2011-09-10 Thread Allan Streib
Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com writes: No, I would lean more to the mid and high ranges than the ghetto thump-thump bass. I do like a really solid bass range but not that window-rattling Sensurround effect. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___

Re: [MBZ] OT - Sort of - Car Insurance

2011-09-10 Thread LWB250
Just my point.  I complained, begged, cajoled, pointed out my loyalty to State Farm numerous times when setting things up with my former agent down here.  Her only response was to point out how expensive insurance is in Florida because of the no fault laws and excessive insurance fraud. I told

[MBZ] Rusty-Q has begun!

2011-09-10 Thread Max Dillon
Just arrived, beautiful day, looking forward to meeting a few list members and a lot of MB drivers. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer cpu swap and Linux

2011-09-10 Thread Gerry Archer
- Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer cpu swap and Linux Jim Cathey wrote: My choices are crappy cable, crappy cellular, or dial-up. Is

Re: [MBZ] OT - Sort of - Car Insurance

2011-09-10 Thread Allan Streib
LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com writes: Just my point. I complained, begged, cajoled, pointed out my loyalty to State Farm numerous times when setting things up with my former agent down here. Her only response was to point out how expensive insurance is in Florida because of the no fault laws and

Re: [MBZ] OT - Sort of - Car Insurance

2011-09-10 Thread Brian Toscano
Your agent may experience a lot of customers that are leaving for other companies, knows she can't compete, so she's not putting forth the effort to do so. Brian On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 10:12 AM, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Just my point. I complained, begged, cajoled, pointed out my

Re: [MBZ] Rusty-Q has begun!

2011-09-10 Thread WILTON
'Wish I were there! Enjoy! Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 12:21 PM Subject: [MBZ] Rusty-Q has begun! Just arrived, beautiful day, looking forward to meeting

Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer cpu swap and Linux

2011-09-10 Thread Mitch Haley
Gerry Archer wrote: How high would you have to go to get a clear shot? Might be interesting to collect the data on annual windspeeds, costs of a windpower installation at effective height, power company policies on buyback, etc., etc. It's a long shot but there are some areas where a windmill

Re: [MBZ] Email setup - was OT: Computer cpu swap and Linux

2011-09-10 Thread Fmiser
Gerry Archer wrote: Setting up Ubuntu Evolution email: The ISP Embarqmail doesn't provide information on setting up Ubuntu Evolution mail. Evolution is one choice. I have never liked it much. I prefer Sylpheed or Thunderbird. But Evolution has better integration with calendar and other

Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer cpu swap and Linux

2011-09-10 Thread Jim Cathey
I think 2 2/3 mile at 2.4gHz would be a miracle under the circumstances, even if I put yagis on top of utility poles at both ends. That distance is easy if it's unobscured visually. Otherwise, probably not. I had to drop a lot of trees to get (and keep) good signal. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Replacing fuel hoses from tank to filter - 84 300D

2011-09-10 Thread Mike Esh
Thanks Craig Michael E. Esh On Sep 9, 2011, at 8:50 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 10:41:26 -0400 Mike Esh michael...@me.com wrote: I am replacing the rubber lines from the tank to the hard lines that run to the engine compartment. Does the 300D fuel system

Re: [MBZ] OT - Sort of - Car Insurance

2011-09-10 Thread LWB250
That is a possibility. State Farm is struggling in Florida, and has made it clear they want to leave.   My take on this is that as long as they are here they plan on making a profit on people who are not willing to change. Dan From: Brian Toscano

Re: [MBZ] OT - Sort of - Car Insurance

2011-09-10 Thread LWB250
We didn't have this problem when we lived elsewhere - Indiana, Wisconsin, etc.   They were very competitive and reasonably priced.  Here in Florida they are obscenely expensive on everything but life insurance, which has little to do with where you live. State Farm has done a great job in the

Re: [MBZ] OT - Sort of - Car Insurance

2011-09-10 Thread WILTON
During more than 51 years with USAA, I have never had a problem with a claim - homeowner's, auto, whatever. In '78, the day before I had to depart for a year in Greenland, a driver cut across in front of #1 son; 'messed up our '74 Plymouth van. Other driver's insurance co. sued us/me for

Re: [MBZ] Rusty-Q has begun!

2011-09-10 Thread Russ Williams
Me too! Eat a Burger and Drown it with a Beer for me. Russ W. On 9/10/2011 11:30 AM, WILTON wrote: 'Wish I were there! Enjoy! Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, September 10,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer cpu swap and Linux

2011-09-10 Thread Mitch Haley
Jim Cathey wrote: That distance is easy if it's unobscured visually. Otherwise, probably not. I had to drop a lot of trees to get (and keep) good signal. In between the two properties is a cell tower. (about 1 mile from the house) On that cell tower sits a 1900mHz Sprint antenna, and a 800mHz

Re: [MBZ] Email setup - was OT: Computer cpu swap and Linux

2011-09-10 Thread Gerry Archer
Strangely, I completed the setup as you directed, then realized that there was no field for adding the password. I went back to Evolution under edit, went through the steps again and found that there actually isn't a field for the password. The only thing I can think of is that Evolution uses

Re: [MBZ] s class seat removal

2011-09-10 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 6:26 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I like to remove the front seats of my mbz's for a variety of reasons. I have two s class cars (300sd 420 sel) and I can't see how to remove the wiring harness from the seats short of cutting the wires. This can't be

Re: [MBZ] s class seat removal

2011-09-10 Thread Scott and Gwen Ritchey
In fact, you want to leave it connected until after the seat is unbolted so you can move the seat to get better access to the bolts. Scott -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Saturday, September

Re: [MBZ] Rusty-Q has begun!

2011-09-10 Thread Bob Rentfro
Post some photos. Bob R On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote: Just arrived, beautiful day, looking forward to meeting a few list members and a lot of MB drivers. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [MBZ] Email setup - was OT: Computer cpu swap and Linux

2011-09-10 Thread Allan Streib
Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com writes: Strangely, I completed the setup as you directed, then realized that there was no field for adding the password. I went back to Evolution under edit, went through the steps again and found that there actually isn't a field for the password. It

[MBZ] stuck brake hoses

2011-09-10 Thread Allan Streib
I started working on replacing the brake hoses on my W116. The fittings where the hard line meets the hose don't look too bad but they are not turning. I am using a flare nut wrench. I have PB Blaster on them now. I may mix up some more ATF/acetone. Thought about getting a micro-torch so I

Re: [MBZ] OT - Sort of - Car Insurance

2011-09-10 Thread Mountain Man
Allan wrote: This is why a competitive market for insurance is a good thing. NOW you are entering banned territory... Oh, wait - this is already at banned also... Insurance is captive - nobody gets away without. I doubt I will make it to 2014, seriously, but if I do, I will be among the gang

Re: [MBZ] OT - Sort of - Car Insurance

2011-09-10 Thread John Freer
So Mao, let me ask you once again...how do you register your MB with stick without liability insurance in IL? And if you don't have liability insurance, stay away from me! (grin) John On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Allan wrote: This is why a

Re: [MBZ] stuck brake hoses

2011-09-10 Thread Rick Knoble
Thought about getting a micro-torch so I could heat up the fitting on the end of the hose a bit. I think my regular blow torch might be too big. Just remember, rubber and brake fluid (an alcohol) will burn... Pretty intensely. Rick

Re: [MBZ] stuck brake hoses

2011-09-10 Thread Allan Streib
Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com writes: Thought about getting a micro-torch so I could heat up the fitting on the end of the hose a bit. I think my regular blow torch might be too big. Just remember, rubber and brake fluid (an alcohol) will burn... Pretty intensely. Exactly why I

Re: [MBZ] Get unforgettable satisfaction tonight and feel the power of love!

2011-09-10 Thread jgiels
.Honey! I want to tell you a secret how to change your life to better! http://www.mymicrohosting.com/com.friend.php?ycoshowtopic=09j4 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] OT - Sort of - Car Insurance

2011-09-10 Thread Mountain Man
John wrote: So Mao, let me ask you once again...how do you register your MB with stick without liability insurance in IL? First off, since this is banned and I am in a general rage anyway - fukc off. otoh, how ya be, John... The point made was the reality that captive clientele is not free

Re: [MBZ] OT - Sort of - Car Insurance

2011-09-10 Thread Mountain Man
...erm... That came thru to banned... potty mouth... sorry mercedes list at okiebenz... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] Get unforgettable satisfaction tonight and feel the power of love!

2011-09-10 Thread Bob Rentfro
Nice Bob R On Sep 10, 2011 12:45 PM, jgi...@comcast.net wrote: .Honey! I want to tell you a secret how to change your life to better! http://www.mymicrohosting.com/com.friend.php?ycoshowtopic=09j4 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go

Re: [MBZ] OT - Sort of - Car Insurance

2011-09-10 Thread Allan Streib
Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com writes: John wrote: So Mao, let me ask you once again...how do you register your MB with stick without liability insurance in IL? First off, since this is banned It is NOT. -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___

[MBZ] It was all Dan's fault

2011-09-10 Thread Mountain Man
He asked the question about insurance to both mercedes and banned. I got the mail in to my banned box because it had BANNED in the subject line which is where I read my filter for BANNNED or MBZ. I dunno - maybe ya gotta change a character or copy the entire email with one letter change to make

Re: [MBZ] OT - Sort of - Car Insurance

2011-09-10 Thread Mountain Man
Allan wrote: It is NOT. Yeah, well... I filter and shuffle stuff by the subject line and this had BANNED in the subject line. See elsewhere for my apology - to you, Allan, and all others. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] Get unforgettable satisfaction tonight and feel the power of love!

2011-09-10 Thread Mountain Man
Bob wrote: Nice Go ahead - tell Mr. PottyMouth what that link went to? Thanks. My tail is already well between my legs... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] stuck brake hoses

2011-09-10 Thread Rick Knoble
Exactly why I don't want a big blowtorch in there. A concentrated micro-torch flame for a few seconds, right on the fitting, is what I'm thinking about. Let us know how it works. I may be facing the same dilemma soon. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___

Re: [MBZ] OT - Sort of - Car Insurance

2011-09-10 Thread John Freer
Yeah, and after all of that, Mao still didn't answer the one question I asked. John On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Allan wrote: It is NOT. Yeah, well... I filter and shuffle stuff by the subject line and this had BANNED in the subject line. See

Re: [MBZ] It was all Dan's fault

2011-09-10 Thread Rick Knoble
Potty Mouth Dan wrote: I got the mail in to my banned box because it had BANNED in the subject line which is where I read my filter for BANNNED or MBZ. I have two filters, one for MBZ and one for Banned sending the mail to two different folders. I have banned mail in the MBZ box once in a

Re: [MBZ] stuck brake hoses

2011-09-10 Thread LWB250
I would be patient and continue to apply the PBBlaster/Acetone mix.  Despite having encountered similar fittings on older MBs that lived in the North, I never had one of these fittings get boogered up as long as I left penetrating oil on it for at least 24 hours and used flare nut wrenches

Re: [MBZ] stuck brake hoses

2011-09-10 Thread Brian Toscano
I've had success leaving penetrant on for a few days on stuck bolts. If time is short the blue wrench may work faster. On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 3:06 PM, LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I would be patient and continue to apply the PBBlaster/Acetone mix. Despite having encountered similar

Re: [MBZ] OT - Vintage Stereo

2011-09-10 Thread LWB250
Just brought my new pair of MG-1s home.  $75. Everything works, no sign of delamination of the tweeter wires, sock is pretty good shape with only one area where there is a little discoloration.   Looks like oak frames, all of which are on good shape with no dings or wear that I can find.

Re: [MBZ] OT - Sort of - Car Insurance

2011-09-10 Thread Mountain Man
John wrote: Yeah, and after all of that, Mao still didn't answer the one question I asked. If I do not comply with current laws, I would after I told you. If I do comply with the current laws, it is under protest. Pick your answer. mao ___

[MBZ] transmission no upshift

2011-09-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Today I hooked my gauge to the operating, regulating (not working or modulator) port and I get no pressure. According to the semi useful ATSG book, that means pull the governor and clean out. I dont see any way of doing this on a 190D without pulling the trans. In fact, I just tried to pull

Re: [MBZ] It was all Dan's fault

2011-09-10 Thread Mountain Man
Rick wrote: I have two filters, one for MBZ and one for Banned sending the mail to two different folders. I have banned mail in the MBZ box once in a while, if MBZ comes before banned in the subject. Now if Max would learn to trim his posts and bottom post from his Android phone, it would

Re: [MBZ] transmission no upshift

2011-09-10 Thread Benz Hogs
Are you using M1 ATF or some cheap $# from WalMart? Do you remember my 300CD that slipped after the tranny was warmed up? It took a couple thousand miles with M1 ATF to clear it out and make it run like a scalded rabbit when at full throttle. Luther KB5QHUOak Park, IL '87 300SDL

Re: [MBZ] transmission no upshift

2011-09-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
its got walmart cheap in it. On 9/10/2011 5:03 PM, Benz Hogs wrote: Are you using M1 ATF or some cheap $# from WalMart? Do you remember my 300CD that slipped after the tranny was warmed up? It took a couple thousand miles with M1 ATF to clear it out and make it run like a scalded rabbit

Re: [MBZ] transmission no upshift

2011-09-10 Thread Mountain Man
Kaleb wrote: ...would some of that trans X or something like that potentially free up the governor? Some guy on clik 'n clak today related how he merely 'floored' the car and rid himself of the same type problem. Get it out on the road, coax it to function properly, and floor it - with trans X

Re: [MBZ] transmission no upshift

2011-09-10 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Any other ideas? If you put another tranny in that car, flush the plumbing thoroughly first. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] transmission no upshift

2011-09-10 Thread Benz Hogs
There's your answer. Quit being cheap and buy 7qts of M1. That might save you the tranny swap Luther KB5QHUOak Park, IL '87 300SDL (312,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) On 9/10/2011 5:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: its got walmart cheap in it. On 9/10/2011 5:03 PM, Benz

Re: [MBZ] transmission no upshift

2011-09-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I did not want to put m1 in because I was not sure if the tranny was good. On 9/10/2011 5:25 PM, Benz Hogs wrote: There's your answer. Quit being cheap and buy 7qts of M1. That might save you the tranny swap Luther KB5QHUOak Park, IL '87 300SDL (312,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150

Re: [MBZ] Rusty-Q has begun!

2011-09-10 Thread Max Dillon
A few different folks from NC were there, maybe next one you can caravan over. Park was really nice setting, big new playground for the kids. Lots of grass, view of the water. Parking lot was about one-third filled with Mercedes. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse

[MBZ] Kleb! Approve My Message!

2011-09-10 Thread LWB250
Just sent a picture of The Fisher 400c and the MG-1s to the list.  Please approve it this week... Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer cpu swap and Linux

2011-09-10 Thread OK Don
The Cradlepoint has an ethernet port - I wonder if PoE would work? The WiFi dish on top of our new (to us) hanger is pointed at a tower about 5-6 miles away, and is powered by PoE and works fine. On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Jim Cathey wrote: That

Re: [MBZ] stuck brake hoses

2011-09-10 Thread Allan Streib
Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com writes: I've had success leaving penetrant on for a few days on stuck bolts. If time is short the blue wrench may work faster. Time is on my side. Still waiting delivery of vacuum pump rebuild kit before I have any brake boost anyway. Allan -- 1983