Re: [MBZ] Look at these top ten things

2012-01-30 Thread Fmiser
OK Don wrote: Back when I was 16 and taking flight lessons, I installed an altimeter and turn bank indicator in my '51 VW bug. The altimeter didn't move much, You just lived in the wrong part of the country. Lots of places where they could change a lot - though (usually) not as fast as

Re: [MBZ] S65 is not for sale by me

2012-01-30 Thread Hendrik Fay
You reckon the one with the MB logo on it is paper as well, spose it could be? However I don't need it and as such I don't expect anyone to go out of their way to get one. Yeah I had a look at their website, I don't follow motorsports much these days, I know that Ambrose is going around in

Re: [MBZ] '98 SLk230 Roadster

2012-01-30 Thread Gerry Archer
Was thinking of this car for grandsons graduation next year. In the meantime I would fix whatever needed fixing and make sure it would be as trouble-free a present as possible. Thanks for the info, Gerry Mitch wrote: '98s are the oldest ones. Would

Re: [MBZ] Look at these top ten things

2012-01-30 Thread Dan Penoff
I worked with a guy who restored a Stearman. Got to take several rides in it. Fun plane, but very brisk in the cockpit! He sold the Stearman and bought a Maul to restore after that. Had the big tundra tires on it... Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jan 30, 2012, at 12:20 AM, Greg Fiorentino

Re: [MBZ] '98 SLk230 Roadster

2012-01-30 Thread Mitch Haley
Gerry Archer wrote: Was thinking of this car for grandsons graduation next year. In the meantime I would fix whatever needed fixing and make sure it would be as trouble-free a present as possible. Thanks for the info, A present for somebody who's supposed to pass on your genes? If 10k is in

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't start

2012-01-30 Thread Luther's Benz
Thanks, Phillip et. all for the suggestions. nbsp;I'm led to believe the problem is solenoid related. nbsp;See below where I find 12.8v everywhere in the system when resting and cranking. Luther *snip* That is the best option. Measure the system. I would want to know the * battery

Re: [MBZ] '98 SLk230 Roadster

2012-01-30 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 5:23 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: If 10k is in your budget, most definitely consider a fly and drive home with this. Roger will say the 4 banger is noisy and rough and you should buy a 320 instead, but where else are you going to find a $40k car with 40k

Re: [MBZ] Crackhead wannabe 300SD expert

2012-01-30 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 10:45 PM, kevin kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote: I got quite the laugh out of that one...thanks! He's right up there with the stick-shift 240D seller who told me that the people on the Internet say that it's normal for hot air to blow out the side vents of a W123 at all

Re: [MBZ] Crackhead wannabe 300SD expert

2012-01-30 Thread Mitch Haley
Alex Chamberlain wrote: and that the best way to take off from a stop is to floor the accelerator in first and let out the clutch gradually, engine at redline, until you reach your desired speed. (I ran away fast.) The best way to get up to speed as quickly as possible, but not the best way to

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't start

2012-01-30 Thread Jim Cathey
* voltage between the engine ground and battery - when cranking 12.8V You sure about that? Meter pins between engine block and battery - terminal, should be 0V. * voltage between the small trigger terminal on the selonoid and the battery + when cranking. 12.8Vnbsp; Again, you _sure_?

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't start

2012-01-30 Thread Craig
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 07:36:36 -0600 Luther's Benz benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Thanks, Phillip et. all for the suggestions. nbsp;I'm led to believe the problem is solenoid related. nbsp;See below where I find 12.8v everywhere in the system when resting and cranking. Something is wrong. It's

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't start

2012-01-30 Thread Benz Hogs
The car will not even attempt to turn the starter over and there is no voltage drop other than the glow plugs. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '87 300SDL (322,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) On 1/30/2012 8:05 AM, Craig wrote: On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 07:36:36 -0600 Luther's Benz

Re: [MBZ] Look at these aspiring actress trucks

2012-01-30 Thread Dan Penoff
I didn't realize they were doing this with the 113 chassis. I have only seen 107s like this. Next time I see one I'll look more closely at the back to see if it is, in fact, larger that a regular model. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jan 29, 2012, at 9:44 PM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't start

2012-01-30 Thread Benz Hogs
So the small lower terminal should NOT have voltage when the key is in the start position and this tells the solenoid to trigger the starter? Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '87 300SDL (322,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) On 1/30/2012 8:07 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: * voltage between the

Re: [MBZ] '98 SLk230 Roadster

2012-01-30 Thread Gerry Archer
Because of age and condition, I can't go north in the winter and don't travel too well where much walking is required; do well in personal car, however. I posted this in part in case anyone on the group was interested and because it seemed low priced for such a nice, sporty, car. I'll try to

Re: [MBZ] Crackhead wannabe 300SD expert

2012-01-30 Thread WILTON
Current window slides are two-piece, also - a rivet and the little piece of plastic on which bottom of window rides. Wilton - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 12:03 AM

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't start

2012-01-30 Thread Rick Knoble
Stupid question. Does the W126 have the remote starter terminals on the passenger fender, like my W123's? Rick Sent from my distant extension of A.G. Bell's invention On Jan 30, 2012, at 8:15 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: So the small lower terminal should NOT have voltage

Re: [MBZ] Crackhead wannabe 300SD expert

2012-01-30 Thread Jim Cathey
Current window slides are two-piece, also - a rivet and the little piece of plastic on which bottom of window rides. The rivet is part of the assembly, IIRC it doesn't come out. The two pieces are what it's found in when it's broken! The guy actually sounds pretty reasonable, other than the

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't start

2012-01-30 Thread Jim Cathey
So the small lower terminal should NOT have voltage when the key is in the start position and this tells the solenoid to trigger the starter? The key is from _where_ you measure the voltage! The instructions were quite specific: between the battery + (plus, positive, etc.) terminal and the

Re: [MBZ] '98 SLk230 Roadster

2012-01-30 Thread Dieselhead
Thought to be a woman's car. Very high population of cougars in the model. Not sure how sturdy or reliable they are after a decade. I sort of like them anyway, and am skulking around a few used car lots to see if I want to make one a long term addition. clay Almost every vehicle is

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't start

2012-01-30 Thread Jim Cathey
If that measurement isn't 0 you can't be getting full engagement current to the solenoid, and maybe it won't engage the gears. And, I should add, you measure between the battery POST, not the clamp, and the screw POST of the solenoid, not the nut or the ring terminal. You are looking for

Re: [MBZ] Look at these top ten things

2012-01-30 Thread Rich Thomas
I drove myself to my flight test, on my 17th birthday! And I passed! --R On 1/30/12 12:20 AM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: Another former neighbor, once the youngest licensed aviator in Canada, his mom had to drive him to his flight test...too young to drive!

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't start

2012-01-30 Thread Benz Hogs
If the solenoid is bad, would the voltage stay 12.8? Luther KB5QHUOak Park, IL '87 300SDL (312,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) On 1/30/2012 9:24 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: If that measurement isn't 0 you can't be getting full engagement current to the solenoid, and maybe it won't

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't start

2012-01-30 Thread Mitch Haley
Benz Hogs wrote: If the solenoid is bad, would the voltage stay 12.8? If the electromagnet coil in the solenoid were open, you could have 12.8 on one side and zero on the other with no current draw. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] '98 SLk230 Roadster

2012-01-30 Thread Mitch Haley
Gerry Archer wrote: Because of age and condition, I can't go north in the winter and don't travel too well where much walking is required; do well in personal car, however. I think the only lister up here with way too much time on his hands is Chairman Mao (Dan Gordon). I wonder what it'd

Re: [MBZ] Stick 123 project for Clay

2012-01-30 Thread Allan Streib
If he let the timing chain break how can we trust that any of the rest of the car is in awesome condition On Sun, Jan 29, 2012, at 09:30 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: Why aren't you jumping on this one? http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/2817839465.html

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-30 Thread Curt Raymond
For the same price as 1 Apple Cinema display which supports 2560x1440 you could buy 5 of my Viewsonic monitors at 1920x1080. Think of the desktop real estate there! Besides Apple (through sub-contractors) nearly actively slaughters people in China. If you support human rights you cannot support

Re: [MBZ] How to restore a cracked blue W123 dash

2012-01-30 Thread Curt Raymond
My '85 190D had some kind of cover. It was obvious if you looked at it but not glaring at a glance. When I parted out the car I pulled the cover just to see what was underneath, the dash was cracked to pieces, BIG cracks all over. The cover was a vast improvement. My current 2 cars have small

Re: [MBZ] How to restore a cracked blue W123 dash

2012-01-30 Thread Rusty Cullens
The Coverlay caps that we sell don't cover the speakers. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To:

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-30 Thread Allan Streib
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012, at 08:14 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Besides Apple (through sub-contractors) nearly actively slaughters people in China. If you support human rights you cannot support Apple. That's a bit extreme. China is going through the same thing the USA went through in the early

Re: [MBZ] '98 SLk230 Roadster

2012-01-30 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jan 30, 2012 7:14 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: . A 190Dc is not a 201.) Too bad! I sure would like a 190D 2.5 Turbo cabriolet! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Stick 123 project for Clay

2012-01-30 Thread WILTON
Leather? Really? 'Looks just like the MB tex in both of the 123s I had. Wilton - Original Message - From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stick 123 project for Clay If

Re: [MBZ] Stick 123 project for Clay

2012-01-30 Thread Randy Bennell
On 30/01/2012 11:37 AM, WILTON wrote: Leather? Really? 'Looks just like the MB tex in both of the 123s I had. Wilton - Original Message - From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Yes Wilton. That is leather from a modern synthetic cow. The little holes are where the fur was

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't start

2012-01-30 Thread Curt Raymond
The trigger to the solenoid is + isn't it? In which case + to + should be 0V. I think you're missing your - and + in the questions. Either you're interpreting or something really doesn't make sense. -Curt Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 08:14:30 -0600 From: Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] '98 SLk230 Roadster

2012-01-30 Thread Curt Raymond
$2200 is a good price for a 190D 2.2 in good condition. I paid $3000 for my first one and around $3500 for my current one (well I PAID $250 but it took another $3250 to get it in decent shape). The 2.2l 5spd is probably the second most sought after 190D short of the '87 190D 2.5l turbo. -Curt

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-30 Thread Curt Raymond
in the daytime anyway, they only work at night now so the issues are less obvious. I also like to ask iPhone users if the polished aluminum is worth the lives of the workers killed to make it: http://www.telegram.com/article/20120130/COLUMN70/120129523/1002/businessOkay that article is poor

Re: [MBZ] 300SD in St Louis

2012-01-30 Thread Mike Piles
$2000.00 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 2:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD in St Louis How much? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 29, 2012,

Re: [MBZ] Stick 123 project for Clay

2012-01-30 Thread Curt Raymond
The hair grows from falsicles, sheesh everybody knows that ;) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11:40:06 -0600 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stick 123 project for Clay Message-ID: 4f26d5f6.6020...@bennell.ca Content-Type:

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't start

2012-01-30 Thread WILTON
'Don't think my 91 126 has such; 'don't remember seeing such; I'll look specifically. BTW, no question is stupid; 'best way to learn is to ask, 'stead of just waiting on the chance that somebody else may mention it. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-30 Thread Brian Toscano
the issues are less obvious. I also like to ask iPhone users if the polished aluminum is worth the lives of the workers killed to make it: http://www.telegram.com/article/20120130/COLUMN70/120129523/1002/businessOkaythat article is poor but the deaths are real. -Curt Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 11

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-30 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: I also like to ask iPhone users if the polished aluminum is worth the lives of the workers killed to make it: http://www.telegram.com/article/20120130/COLUMN70/120129523/1002/businessOkay that article is poor but the deaths are real. Sound like Walton-Mart: To that end

Re: [MBZ] Stick 123 project for Clay

2012-01-30 Thread WILTON
Actually, I like the leather I have from the synthetic cow better than my other leather from a real cow. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stick 123

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't start

2012-01-30 Thread Rick Knoble
Well, I was thinking that if it had one, Luther may be able to use that to assist in troubleshooting, instead of bothering his bride. Rick Sent from my distant extension of A.G. Bell's invention On Jan 30, 2012, at 11:54 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Don't think my 91 126 has such;

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't start

2012-01-30 Thread TE
Not sure if this is relevant, but I've had a similar problem on a W124 where the there is a problem with the shifter linkage on the side of the transmission. If the switch that this linkage is connected to (looks like a rectangular box with a cable attached) doesn't sense that the car is in either

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-30 Thread Dan Penoff
Foxconn has assembled electronic devices for nearly every manufacturer out there, plenty of them besides Apple. While I certainly don't defend what is and has been going on with Foxconn and the other suppliers, I would hold up Apple's efforts to police their supply chain as an example of what

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't start

2012-01-30 Thread Benz Hogs
I've tried starting it in neutral and park, and wiggling the shifter around the two. Nada. Remember, the first morning it wouldn't start, it acted like a low battery by only making 2-3 compressions before nothing, then 1-2 compressions, then 1, then nothing, now it won't even try to turn.

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't start

2012-01-30 Thread Dan Penoff
Neutral safety switch. If this is suspected, try starting the car in neutral. Or, as he suggested, jiggling the shifter while attempting to crank the engine can achieve results as well. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jan 30, 2012, at 1:42 PM, TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote: Not sure if this is

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't start

2012-01-30 Thread Benz Hogs
I'll check again and make SURE I'm on the small terminal only. Luther KB5QHUOak Park, IL '87 300SDL (312,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) On 1/30/2012 11:41 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: The trigger to the solenoid is + isn't it? In which case + to + should be 0V. I think you're missing

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-30 Thread Curt Raymond
are less obvious. I also like to ask iPhone users if the polished aluminum is worth the lives of the workers killed to make it:  http://www.telegram.com/article/20120130/COLUMN70/120129523/1002/businessOkaythat article is poor but the deaths are real. -Curt

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-30 Thread Curt Raymond
to ask iPhone users if the polished aluminum is worth the lives of the workers killed to make it:http://www.telegram.com/article/20120130/COLUMN70/120129523/1002/businessOkay that article is poor but the deaths are real. Sound like Walton-Mart: To that end, the Times reports that Apple has

Re: [MBZ] How to restore a cracked blue W123 dash

2012-01-30 Thread glenn brown
Since there had been so many posts regarding this topic, I sent a JPEG pix the other day of the dash pad installation in my '84 300D but, the last time I sent a pix, it took Kaleb greater than a week to approve it and it was finally posted. So, for those who want to know what the Coverlay

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-30 Thread Rich Thomas
://www.telegram.com/article/20120130/COLUMN70/120129523/1002/businessOkay that article is poor but the deaths are real. Sound like Walton-Mart: To that end, the Times reports that Apple has conducted supplier audits and published the results on its web site. At the same time, Apple pushes its

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't start

2012-01-30 Thread Curt Raymond
The term you're looking for is neutral interlock switch. I think Luther already said he'd tried it with the car in neutral but based on the latest round of troubleshooting its definitely worth a shot. -Curt Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 02:42:02 +0800 From: TE ban...@nc.rr.com To: 'Mercedes Discussion

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-30 Thread Brian Toscano
:4F26D988.10300@**voyager.net 4f26d988.10...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: I also like to ask iPhone users if the polished aluminum is worth the lives of the workers killed to make it:http://www.telegram.com/** article/20120130/COLUMN70

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-30 Thread Dan Penoff
killed to make it:http://www.telegram.com/article/20120130/COLUMN70/120129523/1002/businessOkay that article is poor but the deaths are real. Sound like Walton-Mart: To that end, the Times reports that Apple has conducted supplier audits and published the results on its web site

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-30 Thread Dan Penoff
if the polished aluminum is worth the lives of the workers killed to make it:http://www.telegram.com/** article/20120130/COLUMN70/**120129523/1002/businessOkayhttp://www.telegram.com/article/20120130/COLUMN70/120129523/1002/businessOkaythat article is poor but the deaths are real. Sound like Walton-Mart

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-30 Thread Curt Raymond
Apparently you haven't applied the argument that Apple kills Chinese workers to a hipster yet. They're all going on telling you how your Android phone isn't as good as an iPhone, look at the polished aluminum back for instance. So you cut in with Oh the one the Chinese workers were burned to

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-30 Thread Curt Raymond
Whoda thunk it right? Back in '97 everybody thought Apple was pretty much done, they were basically making PC clones with a slightly better OS on a different processor platform. Jobs came back and made them into a company that did something different and off they went. Does Apple give a

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-30 Thread Dan Penoff
No dividends, but the new guy, Tim Cook, has been rumored to be more receptive to paying dividends than Steve Jobs was. A lot of institutional investors have their noses out of joint because of this, but they still make out quite nicely due to the meteoric increase in the stock value. Apple's

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-30 Thread Rich Thomas
They are too busy drinking PBRs to GAS about that. --R On 1/30/12 3:06 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Apparently you haven't applied the argument that Apple kills Chinese workers to a hipster yet. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] SLK

2012-01-30 Thread RELNGSON
...I should take a look at this one, it's been around for a month now, but a convertible is a summer car, and who wants one in Solar Collector Black? http://kalamazoo.craigslist.org/cto/2762084708.html.. Folding steel roofs don't leak and can't be slashed but they do rattle, according to

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't start

2012-01-30 Thread WILTON
Well, I never noticed it before or thought about what it is, but my '91 350SDL (126) DOES have a small (maybe 1 X 2) electrical terminal box with snap-on cover immediately forward of the windshield washer filler and near the coolant overflow tank and filler that very likely contains the starter

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't start

2012-01-30 Thread Luther's Benz
Ok, I stand corrected, 0v it is. nbsp; One must hold their mouth right to place the meter where it holds itself while turning the key to start. Also: *snip* You sure about that? Meter pins between engine block and battery - terminal, should be 0V.nbsp; *snip* I'm not so sure anymore... This

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't start

2012-01-30 Thread Rick Knoble
That would be it. Rick Sent from my distant extension of A.G. Bell's invention On Jan 30, 2012, at 3:22 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Well, I never noticed it before or thought about what it is, but my '91 350SDL (126) DOES have a small (maybe 1 X 2) electrical terminal box with

[MBZ] OT: New addition...

2012-01-30 Thread Tim C
...a Ford 12-passenger van, not diesel even. Relatively new, I knew exactly which van I wanted and had money in order before I got to the (Ford) dealer, and it still took 5.5 hours to get out the door. I traded in the Ford Escape hybrid, which was getting too small for the five of us - those

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't start

2012-01-30 Thread Fmiser
Luther's Benz wrote: Thanks, Phillip et. all for the suggestions. I'm led to believe the problem is solenoid related. See below where I find 12.8v everywhere in the system when resting and cranking. Measure the system. I would want to know the * battery voltage at rest 12.8V

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor made in the third world

2012-01-30 Thread Hendrik Fay
Perhaps you could elaborate on this a bit. Are these workers paid a sustenance wage or a get ahead wage? Businesses are in the business of making the most money they can http://www.thestar.com/business/article/1110094--olive-why-caterpillar-has-the-upper-hand-in-london-plant-lockout Hendrik who

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-30 Thread Hendrik Fay
It's not so much about paying a premium, Apple seem to have a very healthy profit margin on their products. It is more about getting investors to put money into a venture where you tell em that you won't be maximising profits. Hendrik who has a mac Curt Raymond wrote: Probably true for some

Re: [MBZ] OT: No new addition...

2012-01-30 Thread Hendrik Fay
Another let down, first Wilton and now you, ahh well pass the tissues :'( Hendrik who is slowly getting used to disappointments Tim C wrote: Unfortunately for Hendrik this means the pressure's off me going to Raleigh to pick up his Hendrick MB tag. ... but I'll see what I can do. Best, Tim

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor to check the share market on

2012-01-30 Thread Hendrik Fay
There are a lot of speculations about what they plan to do, share buyback, dividend, buy some other companies, however most seem to think that shares will rise. Hendrik who has no apple shares Dan Penoff wrote: No dividends, but the new guy, Tim Cook, has been rumored to be more receptive

Re: [MBZ] OT: No new addition...

2012-01-30 Thread WILTON
Write to 'em; maybe they'll send you one to do some free advertising for 'em. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: No new addition...

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor to check the share market on

2012-01-30 Thread Dan Penoff
After last weeks financials were released, most of the brokerage houses project a share price well north of $600 before the end of this year. Works for me. MacDan Sent from my iPhone On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: There are a lot of speculations

Re: [MBZ] Stick 123 project for Clay

2012-01-30 Thread clay monroe
I thought about it, but I am not partial to the w123. Gump was more entertaining and needed engine work. I have the w124 to putter around in, so that would be a step back in both power and ability. Now I am on the hunt for a roadster, of the R107 or maybe a CLK or SLK clay On Jan 29,

Re: [MBZ] Stick 123 project for Clay

2012-01-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have a euro 300d manny with heated seats I would sell close to that Figure Sent from my iPhone On Jan 30, 2012, at 6:09 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I thought about it, but I am not partial to the w123. Gump was more entertaining and needed engine work. I have the w124 to

Re: [MBZ] Look at these top ten things

2012-01-30 Thread OK Don
True - Oklahoma is not known for changes in elevation. You just lived in the wrong part of the country. Lots of places where they could change a lot - though (usually) not as fast as when flying. -- Philip -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager

Re: [MBZ] Look at these top ten things

2012-01-30 Thread OK Don
Great feeling wasn't it? I had to wait till the day after my 17th. BD to take it (and pass). On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I drove myself to my flight test, on my 17th birthday! And I passed! --R -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992

Re: [MBZ] '98 SLk230 Roadster

2012-01-30 Thread Gerry Archer
Gerry Archer wrote: Because of age and condition, I can't go north in the winter and don't travel too well where much walking is required; do well in personal car, however. I think the only lister up here with way too much time on his hands is Chairman Mao (Dan Gordon). I wonder what it'd

Re: [MBZ] '98 SLk230 Roadster

2012-01-30 Thread Gerry Archer
I'll try to check both out tomorrow. The $2200 190D is an automatic. Would have bought it when it was $3000 if it had been a 5 speed manual. Gerry $2200 is a good price for a 190D 2.2 in good condition. I paid $3000 for my first one and around $3500 for my current one (well I PAID $250 but it

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't start

2012-01-30 Thread Fmiser
Benz Hogs wrote: If the solenoid is bad, would the voltage stay 12.8? Mitch Haley wrote: If the electromagnet coil in the solenoid were open, you could have 12.8 on one side and zero on the other with no current draw. 12.8 V referenced to _ground_. I specifically said voltage between

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't start

2012-01-30 Thread Luther's Benz
Did today's posted results give a clearer picture of shat the issue might be? Luther On Jan 30, 2012 6:57 PM, Fmiser lt;fmi...@gmail.comgt; wrote: gt; gt; Benz Hogs wrote: gt; gt; If the solenoid is bad, would the voltage stay 12.8? gt; Mitch Haley wrote: gt; gt; If the electromagnet

Re: [MBZ] Look at these top ten things

2012-01-30 Thread Mountain Man
Craig wrote: I had a Willys Utility Wagon when we lived in the Colorado Springs area that came with an altimeter. It moved a whole lot. So, you're the guy that drove that beast. Now I read you at okiebenz. No... I didn't see that Willys Utility Wagon, but I lived wy south of you, south of

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor made in the third world

2012-01-30 Thread Dan Penoff
Hendrik, I can only relate the two places I saw such business activities take place: Dominican Republic - industrial park where goods are assembled, such as clothing. I worked with a supplier who was responsible for power production in a large industrial park outside of Santo Domingo, in the

Re: [MBZ] SDL won't start

2012-01-30 Thread Craig
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:47:28 -0600 Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: I'll check again and make SURE I'm on the small terminal only. How about a simple test? Take a BIG screwdriver and short the small terminal on the starter solenoid to the top, big terminal with the cable running to the

Re: [MBZ] OT: No new addition...

2012-01-30 Thread Rich Thomas
There is a Hendrick Shivvalay dealer here in town, I could go see if they would give me a Hendrick Shivvalay tag I could send you. --R On 1/30/12 6:52 PM, Hendrik Fay wrote: Another let down, first Wilton and now you, ahh well pass the tissues :'( Hendrik who is slowly getting used to

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor made in the third world

2012-01-30 Thread Rich Thomas
The DR is run by something like 10 families (I might be wrong on the absolute number here given how long it has been since we visited there, but it is a handful) and the rest are just baggage to them. Your basic colonialism. The Haitians that manage to get over are treated even worse than

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-30 Thread Dieselhead
Frod started squeezing the suppliers by 10% per year 20 years ago. They learned it from Evil Sam. In the intervening years, it has become a fairly standard practice. You don't believe Dell, HP/Compaq/whoare we today? does the same thing? How about asus or (fill in your favorite

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-30 Thread Dieselhead
You (appear to) make the common mistake to assume that a corporation has some compulsion to support whatever issue you or I or someone else believes in, absent a desire to do it to get you to give them money for their product(s). Their purpose is to make money for shareholders while complying

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor made in the third world

2012-01-30 Thread Dan Penoff
One of those families was my customer. They owned numerous businesses, from ferreterias to nail factories to an Anjeho distillery. Their kids were educated in the States, and their homes were nothing short of palatial. They pretty much ran the country. For what it's worth, I did the same thing

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-30 Thread Dieselhead
Its the lip service I hate, like I said I'm not against Apple, I'm against hypocrites that use Apple products to save the earth which is a lot like saving spotted owls with a 12ga. -Curt Yep. But the greenie weenies are hypocrites in so may ways. Like when they cause the deaths of many

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-30 Thread Dieselhead
I bought a Mac because it made my life easier. Not because I was trying further my alignment with any causes. Yep. While apple evangelists in the early days were notably liberal/socialist, and the company still has very similar leanings, [is albore still on the board?] one of the

Re: [MBZ] Stick 123 project for Clay

2012-01-30 Thread Ed Booher
How close to that, and what kind of trade would you give me for a running 83 240D that hasn't been winterized in forever. (Once it drops into the 40's, she won't start) Ed On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I have a euro 300d manny with heated seats I

Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor made in the third world

2012-01-30 Thread andrew strasfogel
I believe the word is oligarchy. On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: One of those families was my customer. They owned numerous businesses, from ferreterias to nail factories to an Anjeho distillery. Their kids were educated in the States, and their homes were

Re: [MBZ] Stick 123 project for Clay

2012-01-30 Thread andrew strasfogel
Once again, still to deaf ears in all likelihood: you can build s super 240D or what-ever from scratch using my splendid 1985 300D turbodiesel engine as a core. On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Ed Booher edboo...@gmail.com wrote: How close to that, and what kind of trade would you give me for

Re: [MBZ] OT: No new addition...

2012-01-30 Thread Hendrik Fay
Tut Tut Tut, the best or nothing, thanks. Hendrik who is a big fat snob in a Benz Rich Thomas wrote: There is a Hendrick Shivvalay dealer here in town, I could go see if they would give me a Hendrick Shivvalay tag I could send you. --R ___

Re: [MBZ] Apple$$$

2012-01-30 Thread RELNGSON
Nothing like having $100 million in cash laying around... It's wayyy more than that. An article in this AM's paper suggested they buy California. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] flight test

2012-01-30 Thread RELNGSON
...I drove myself to my flight test, on my 17th birthday!  And I passed!.. At how many hours? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] Apple$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$'s

2012-01-30 Thread Hendrik Fay
I read that they are expected to have 100 billion in cash by the end of the year, unless they buy a State or two, or pay the wage slaves a bit more, although apparently these wage slaves would not know what to do with the extra money, so there is no need to pay them any more than necessary.

Re: [MBZ] Stick 123 project for Clay

2012-01-30 Thread Fmiser
andrew strasfogel wrote: Once again, still to deaf ears in all likelihood: you can build s super 240D or what-ever from scratch using my splendid 1985 300D turbodiesel engine as a core. I would be thrilled to take your engine - I just can't afford it _and_ shipping! Now, if I ever end up