Re: [MBZ] famous sl

2013-08-07 Thread Richard Hattaway
There are six lines of type describing the car.  The words 'Buck Owens' appear in four of them. The 350SL is really one of the best ( if not the best ) of the 107 chassis cars.  It's a shame they can't spend just a little time talking about the car.  Buck would have wanted it that way ..

Re: [MBZ] The rusty green 116 SD with a worn out rear seat is now on ebay

2013-08-07 Thread Richard Hattaway
Yep, all the horse hair is gone from under the tex. Horse hair has that kind of reaction to flood waters, makes it kinda just rot away (c: That's a real good $200 car.  Not much more. From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] famous sl

2013-08-07 Thread Dan Penoff
You have to wonder how well maintained it was. Look at how dirty the engine compartment is. Bakersfield is a nasty place for a car. Dan On Aug 7, 2013, at 7:04 AM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com wrote: There are six lines of type describing the car. The words 'Buck Owens'

Re: [MBZ] trademark Ownership, Stars and Porches

2013-08-07 Thread Larry T
You are correct! It is a very muddy issue! Porsche also used the argument that a calendar was a product they offeras well as the trademark issue -- unfortunately they don't worry about being seen as Bad guys - they will protect their images. We have had people on the Porsche list get

Re: [MBZ] The rusty green 116 SD with a worn out rear seat is now on ebay

2013-08-07 Thread David Bruckmann
Unfortunately, beginning around 1972/3 the US market cars were required to have flame retardant in the horsehair. Turns out that in addition to being toxic, the flame retardants used were also acidic and destroyed the horsehair. That's why early 108 and 115 seats are usually fine, but any 115

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-07 Thread Curt Raymond
Or a Husky or Echo or any semi-pro saw sold at a real saw shop. The cheap homeowner saws are junk and you get zero support. My Dad is hilarious, he made fun of me for buying my Husky. In our family you don't buy a saw, you wait awhile and somebody gives you one. The thing is the ones you get

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-07 Thread Curt Raymond
Actually yours is pretty much the same story as Kaleb's. There is pretty much no QA on most anything brought over from China.  A great manufacturer recognizes that they periodically made a dud and it doesn't take many duds to ruin a reputation. So they pick one out of a hundred (or whatever)

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-07 Thread Curt Raymond
Not just good engineering, Quality Control. This is something American car makers didn't learn until well into the '90s. I think it was on here somebody told a good anecdote where an American car maker paired up with an Asian one and learned about strict quality control... -Curt Date: Tue, 06

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-07 Thread Dieselhead
Not just good engineering, Quality Control. This is something American car makers didn't learn until well into the '90s. I think it was on here somebody told a good anecdote where an American car maker paired up with an Asian one and learned about strict quality control... -Curt That is

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-07 Thread Dan Penoff
Ford and Mazda. Started with the second generation Escort in 1990. I bought one of the first ones in Wisconsin. Excellent car. Dan On Aug 7, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Not just good engineering, Quality Control. This is something American car makers didn't

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-07 Thread Dieselhead
I tried that. It will act like it wants to start then dies out again. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2013, at 7:15 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: This thing has to be vapor locking. Next time it dies, take off the fuel cap and put it back on. Might have

Re: [MBZ] cARB TOOLS

2013-08-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Wow, a toolkit to get a handle on my carbs! On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Rick Hawkins Java wrote: HERE'S ONE http://www.amazon.com/**Homelite-CARB-ADJUSTMENT-TOOL-**

Re: [MBZ] trademark Ownership, Stars and such --** WAS **Motor Mounts

2013-08-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Thanks - now I have a great excuse to explain to people precisely why I am not a Porsche owner. On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Speaking of owning designs and such -- back when I owned a small (very small) publishng company I thought it's be nice to produce

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-07 Thread Richard Hattaway
Not just good engineering, Quality Control. This is something American car makers didn't learn until well into the '90s. -Curt Just about the time they also decided that they could ship it all to Mexico and China and continue to make 'quality' products. Richard

Re: [MBZ] famous sl

2013-08-07 Thread Gary Hurst
i suggested it to a woman whose dad was good friends with buck owens and she got a little upset. apparently, her memories of buck are not fond On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 7:11 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: You have to wonder how well maintained it was. Look at how dirty the engine

[MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-07 Thread Randy Bennell
I am starting to think I should update my truck. My current 02 F150 Supercrew has been good but is essentially, 12 model years old and has about 280K Kil on it. It is getting some rust in the rocker panels and the front seats are wearing out and need repairs. Apart from that, it is really

Re: [MBZ] famous sl

2013-08-07 Thread Rich Thomas
Somebody down the road was flogging an SL that belonged to Ivana Trump. I had seen the car around, it had a decent respray and the interior supposedly had been redone, anyway it looked nice. Not sure what Ivana was doing to it that trashed the paint and interior. I guess they must have sold

[MBZ] 123 Wagon Project in PA

2013-08-07 Thread Dan Penoff
Looks like this could be a good deal for someone who has the time to put it all back together: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1724958-rust-free-83-wagon-body-engine.html#post5894755 Dan Sent from my iPad ___

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-07 Thread Scott Ritchey
The great irony here is that the Japanese learned quality management from the US after WWII (Google: W. Edwards Demming). The US developed/used these quality approaches for the massive WWII war production. The ironic part is that US industry then blew off all these quality lessons after the war

[MBZ] Fw: 91 350SDL

2013-08-07 Thread WILTON
This can make a mighty fine vehicle for somebody. 'Best driving/riding car I've seen during my 64 years of driving. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 10:08 PM Subject: 91 350SDL Oil

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-07 Thread Dieselhead
The great irony here is that the Japanese learned quality management from the US after WWII (Google: W. Edwards Demming). The US developed/used these quality approaches for the massive WWII war production. The ironic part is that US industry then blew off all these quality lessons after the war

[MBZ] Craig's List stuff

2013-08-07 Thread WILTON
Can/will somebody tell me 'bout putting stuff (a car) on Craig's List? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Craig's List stuff

2013-08-07 Thread WILTON
How 'bout Bring a Trailer? Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON To: mercedes list Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 1:30 PM Subject: Craig's List stuff Can/will somebody tell me 'bout putting stuff (a car) on Craig's List? Wilton

Re: [MBZ] Craig's List stuff

2013-08-07 Thread Rich Thomas
ON CL you'll get lowballers, tire kickers, and ignorant time-wasters for a car that has this problem. They would probably either offer you scrap price or something similar, if you even got a real offer. It might be best to give us an idea of what you would take for it, and see if any of us

[MBZ] God intervenes on a Benz

2013-08-07 Thread Rich Thomas
For real. Watch the vid. http://www.connecttristates.com/news/story.aspx?list=194622id=930741 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-07 Thread Randy Bennell
On 07/08/2013 12:08 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: The great irony here is that the Japanese learned quality management from the US after WWII (Google: W. Edwards Demming). The US developed/used these quality approaches for the massive WWII war production. The ironic part is that US industry then

Re: [MBZ] 123 Wagon Project in PA

2013-08-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I love the color combination. What do they call that dark, blackish blue? BTW, I still have a few interior door panels and rear hatch panels in blue and palomino for a W123 sedan or wagon if anyone is interested. All are in prime condition and priced to move. Andrew On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw.. NOW Quality and Production

2013-08-07 Thread Rich Thomas
I visited my doc a month or two ago, and he casually mentioned his grandparents had left their papers to Purdue Univ where I went, did not know much more than that about it. His grandfather and grandmother were the Cheaper by the Dozen family, and his father was one of the dozen. (The house

Re: [MBZ] God intervenes on a Benz

2013-08-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Hardly a miracle if the fire truck had the tools needed to cut through the sheet metal. That said, the disappearing priest is another matter... On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: For real. Watch the vid.

Re: [MBZ] 123 Wagon Project in PA

2013-08-07 Thread Michael Canfield
Nice. Wish I had the extra cash. I would love to have a wagon. Mike On Aug 7, 2013 1:08 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Looks like this could be a good deal for someone who has the time to put it all back together:

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-07 Thread Fmiser
Dieselhead wrote: +1 for Where's the Diesel chain saws? It's old and underpowered. Comet A or Comet B, or a Jonsered XA. A couple youtube videos of them. From http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAUjEsgPXJI From http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXR3ZOPlRys --Philip

Re: [MBZ] God intervenes on a Benz

2013-08-07 Thread Rich Thomas
It was Mercedes metal, much stronger than anything else. Was overcoming the saws, they could not get into the car to get the driver out. They said so in the vid. It was a milagro! --R On 8/7/13 2:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Hardly a miracle if the fire truck had the tools needed to

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-07 Thread Curt Raymond
Tut tut sir, American cars (which is a mis-nomer but lets stick with it, I obviously mean the big 3) are of comparable, some would even say higher, quality to the Asian brands right now. In particular Honda and Toyota are in a bit of trouble lately. I wonder if maybe they've gotten bit by the

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw.. NOW Quality and Production

2013-08-07 Thread Dieselhead
I visited my doc a month or two ago, and he casually mentioned his grandparents had left their papers to Purdue Univ where I went, did not know much more than that about it. His grandfather and grandmother were the Cheaper by the Dozen family, and his father was one of the dozen. (The house

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-07 Thread Curt Raymond
Used truck prices are very high right now, actually used vehicle prices in general are very high right now. I've been kind of keeping an eye out and anything in the $10-$15k range is pretty well beat. I think it makes a lot of sense to buy new, especially since the manufacturers are giving

[MBZ] Metals development WAS: God intervenes on a Benz

2013-08-07 Thread Dieselhead
It was Mercedes metal, much stronger than anything else. Was overcoming the saws, they could not get into the car to get the driver out. They said so in the vid. It was a milagro! --R I sure was impressed with the metallurgy in the BMW motorsickle frames 40 years ago! Very thinwall,

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-07 Thread Dieselhead
Tut tut sir, American cars (which is a mis-nomer but lets stick with it, I obviously mean the big 3) are of comparable, some would even say higher, quality to the Asian brands right now. In particular Honda and Toyota are in a bit of trouble lately. I wonder if maybe they've gotten bit by the

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-07 Thread Richard Hattaway
When I left the automotive industry in 2005, we were a second tier producer for VW, GM, and Ford.  In a nutshell, VW had a QC manager assigned to our plant.  We all knew his name, he walked at free will anywhere in the plant he wished ( maybe personnel was off limits, don't know ), and was

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-07 Thread Gerry Archer
Japan sold a lot of cheap consumer goods; toys, notions, etc; during the 1930s; house slippers with paper soles, for example; such that made in Japan was synonymous with junk. This continued after WW-2 until Japan set up an agency that tested export goods and would not issue an export licence

Re: [MBZ] Roger?

2013-08-07 Thread Craig
On Fri, 2 Aug 2013 05:16:25 -0400 Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Maybe he is dead. Mitch wrote: I found his mom's obit but nothing like that on him. Here's where he works: http://www.northwhatcomlaw.com/ Has anyone called his office:

Re: [MBZ] Craig's List stuff

2013-08-07 Thread Richard Hattaway
Just do it, it's not that hard. Set up an account in your area, it's easy to do, just go to CL and surf around. Take some pictures, set them for VGA resolution, 640X480, they load faster.  You'll need about 6.  It really doesn't matter what they are.  On my last sale I did front, back, side,

Re: [MBZ] 123 Wagon Project in PA

2013-08-07 Thread Richard Hattaway
Dan, Please refrain from posting teases like this.  I'd much rather see a really nice 118 or 116, even a 110, and then have somebody buy it out from under me.. If you make me buy another 123 Barbara will have bounty a on your head pretty fast..  (c: Richard

[MBZ] 300SD battery/alternator problem

2013-08-07 Thread Rich Thomas
The daughter unit is using the Mamabenz for awhile. A coupla weeks ago the battery went dead. She gets it to the shop she uses, he says the alternator is bad, sends it to the alternator shop. I told them to just replace the regulator, which they did, A-OK. They also swapped in a new

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-07 Thread Gary Hurst
i learned about jap goods in the late 70s. as young people, we mostly got around by bicycle. our dads maybe or may not have had a car but dads worked 15 hours a day, so they weren't going to be driving us around. moms did not drive for the most part. our main mode of personal transportation

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 91 350SDL

2013-08-07 Thread Craig
On Wed, 7 Aug 2013 13:13:18 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: This can make a mighty fine vehicle for somebody. 'Best driving/riding car I've seen during my 64 years of driving. I'm sorry I'm not in a position to take advantage of your offer, Wilton. Craig

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-07 Thread Craig
On Wed, 07 Aug 2013 12:03:32 -0500 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: I have not heard great things about some of the Ford trucks in the later years. They tend to have some engine issues that mine has not. The brand new Fords have a different bunch of engines that may be better but

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-07 Thread Dan Penoff
The W140 is a very well built car if you can get past the wiring harness and evaporator. If those are done the car is pretty much bulletproof in my opinion. Consider that these were near $100k cars in their day and you'll understand the design and engineering. You can find very nice examples

Re: [MBZ] 123 Wagon Project in PA

2013-08-07 Thread Dan Penoff
Find me a decent finnie of any vintage and fuel type and I'll quit. Dan On Aug 7, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com wrote: Dan, Please refrain from posting teases like this. I'd much rather see a really nice 118 or 116, even a 110, and then have somebody buy it

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-07 Thread Dan Penoff
We have a Mazda6 purchased new in 2005 that has around 120k on it. Damned reliable car and very inexpensive to maintain. Both of the Ford Focus' we have/had are great cars. 170k and still going strong with minimal maintenance. I would recommend either brand (they're pretty much the same any

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-07 Thread Dieselhead
The bad Ford diesels are 2004 - 2006 Ford F250 with the 6 liter diesel engine. A friend of mine and a friend of his had these and both had MANY problems. Apparently, before that time Ford bought their engines. For 2004, they decided to make their own engines -- which had many problems. In 2007,

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-07 Thread Rick Knoble
On Aug 7, 2013, at 4:05 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: for me, japanese good from japanese companies are the best there is, although i'm developing some very warm feelings towards korea and taiwan as well. Correctly so. If you ever shop at Harbor Freight, the quality on any

Re: [MBZ] 123 Wagon Project in PA

2013-08-07 Thread Dieselhead
Find me a decent finnie of any vintage and fuel type and I'll quit. Dan That one 200D posted here a few days ago looked halfway decent. appeared to me that most of the rusty spots were surface rust, not rot through from the inside. Easily fixed with $5k worth of paint and prep, or with a

Re: [MBZ] 300SD battery/alternator problem

2013-08-07 Thread Rich Thomas
I found the wiring diagrams hidden in ETM (an incredibly intuitive location) named 126td83-85.pdf which might or might not assist. I am not sure what the guy meant by 4 wires coming from a box, it must not be the alternator circuit as there are only 3 wires shown. --R On 8/7/13 4:59 PM,

Re: [MBZ] Craig's List stuff

2013-08-07 Thread WILTON
How 'bout $1800? Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craig's List stuff ON CL you'll get lowballers, tire kickers, and

Re: [MBZ] God intervenes on a Benz

2013-08-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: For real. Watch the vid. I think the important part is: The Hannibal Fire Department showed up right after that prayer with fresh equipment and was able to finish the extrication. I don't know if they don't keep all their cutting tools sharp, or the first set got dull

[MBZ] cARB TOOLS

2013-08-07 Thread Rick Hawkins Java
HERE'S ONE http://www.amazon.com/Homelite-CARB-ADJUSTMENT-TOOL-PAC-MAN/dp/B000PLV9R2 here's another http://www.amazon.com/DOUBLE-ADJUSTING-308535002-Homelite-Craftsman/dp/B009LA6MAM/ref=pd_sim_lg_1 what do you need one for? what brand machine?? thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins

Re: [MBZ] Craig's List stuff

2013-08-07 Thread Mitch Haley
WILTON wrote: How 'bout $1800? Or straight trade for a green W116 300SD? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] 116 300SD

2013-08-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Do the 617's in the 116 have EGR? I know the later 82 up does. Mine's a 1979 and I don't remember any EGR plumbing. Don't know about 1980. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

[MBZ] 116 300SD

2013-08-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Do the 617's in the 116 have EGR? I know the later 82 up does. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Craig's List stuff

2013-08-07 Thread WILTON
'Preciate the consideration, but no, thank you. ;) 'Need to go the other way. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craig's List stuff WILTON

Re: [MBZ] 116 300SD

2013-08-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well that rusty green 116 on ebay has all the breather lines that run from the valve cover to the u pipe on the front of the turbo, as well as the exhaust line from the vacuum pump rerouted. Seller says he was told because it had the EGR removed. I do not recall ever seeing egr on those. I

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-07 Thread MG
Or take a dremel tool with a thin blade on it and cut a slot in the end of the adjuster and use a regular screw driver. Works just fine on my Poulan. Manfred Mitch Haley wrote: Wow, all the eBay sources seem to have dried up. Found a Zama double D for $24, which is about $19 more than I

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-07 Thread MG
You could buy one here http://www.lilredbarn.net/product-p/530035560.htm Manfred Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So I was at the lawn mower parts store today to get a belt for my mower and asked if they has those special adjustment screw drivers. EPA won't let then sell them

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-07 Thread Dieselhead
Or take a dremel tool with a thin blade on it and cut a slot in the end of the adjuster and use a regular screw driver. Works just fine on my Poulan. Manfred Mitch Haley wrote: Wow, all the eBay sources seem to have dried up. Found a Zama double D for $24, which is about $19 more than I

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-07 Thread Gary Hurst
i was a GM guy my whole life but they aren't even real to me anyone. if i were to purchase an american car, it would be likely be a ford with a small chance of chrysler. to me, GM is just rebadged daewoos right now On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: We have a

Re: [MBZ] 300SD battery/alternator problem

2013-08-07 Thread Peter Frederick
You need for her to find a real mechanic, this isn't rocket science, but it's obviously out of the current mechanic's area of expertise. Look for an independent Benz mechanic. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-07 Thread Gary Hurst
i still like bicycles and advise anyone looking for a bicycle that if they see the words tig welded taiwan on the frame they are in good shape. i've also been having good luck selling taiwan parts for mercedes to those who don't want to be screwed by PRC yet dont want to buy something real

Re: [MBZ] 116 300SD

2013-08-07 Thread rogerhga
Kaleb, My 1980 300SD does not have an EGR. There were differences between the CA versions and the rest of the world, so don't know about the left coast. Don't know about dumping oil from blowby, mine doesn't. An EGR on a 617 diesel is a very lame addition. My Indie plugged the vac. line on my

Re: [MBZ] OT anyone have experience and opinion on late model trucks?

2013-08-07 Thread Craig
On Wed, 7 Aug 2013 16:12:22 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: oh? Back to IH again? Or is someone else building v-8s? Sorry, I cannot answer that question. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So back to the say, it is a POS. I went out to start it, have not ran it in a couple days. Wore myself pulling on the damn thing, it never started. I am going to take it to their nearest service provider I guess and tell them either to fix it or shove it up their ass. On 8/7/2013 5:53 PM,

Re: [MBZ] 116 300SD

2013-08-07 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Good point Kaleb... I missed that. No EGR on a 116 300SD. On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Well that rusty green 116 on ebay has all the breather lines that run from the valve cover to the u pipe on the front of the turbo, as well as the exhaust

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
thats back to the saw, sorry, cant type, arm is wore out. On 8/7/2013 6:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So back to the say, it is a POS. I went out to start it, have not ran it in a couple days. Wore myself pulling on the damn thing, it never started. I am going to take it to their nearest

Re: [MBZ] 116 300SD

2013-08-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I just do not think I could pay over 1k for that car, even if it is green. Maybe I am just being cheap, I dont know. On 8/7/2013 6:39 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Good point Kaleb... I missed that. No EGR on a 116 300SD. On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin

Re: [MBZ] 116 300SD

2013-08-07 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Just walk away. Its rusty and not original. Worthless unfortunately. Jaime On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I just do not think I could pay over 1k for that car, even if it is green. Maybe I am just being cheap, I dont know. On 8/7/2013 6:39

Re: [MBZ] 116 300SD

2013-08-07 Thread Craig
On Wed, 07 Aug 2013 18:40:34 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I just do not think I could pay over 1k for that car, even if it is green. Maybe I am just being cheap, I dont know. It's OK, just set the computer mouse down, turn around, and walk away. It is really for the

Re: [MBZ] 116 300SD

2013-08-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Im not jacking with it unless its $800 or less, and even then probably too much. On 8/7/2013 6:55 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Just walk away. Its rusty and not original. Worthless unfortunately. Jaime On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I just do

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-07 Thread OK Don
LMAO !!! On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: thats back to the saw, sorry, cant type, arm is wore out. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775

Re: [MBZ] 116 300SD

2013-08-07 Thread OK Don
Probably not the original engine, but one pulled from a 126 or 123 ??? Yes, walk away. On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Well that rusty green 116 on ebay has all the breather lines that run from the valve cover to the u pipe on the front of the turbo,

Re: [MBZ] 116 300SD

2013-08-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
From the photos it appears to be a 116 version engine. I am probably not going to mess with it, I have my eye on something else anyway. On 8/7/2013 7:12 PM, OK Don wrote: Probably not the original engine, but one pulled from a 126 or 123 ??? Yes, walk away. On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 5:38 PM,

[MBZ] 91 350SDL

2013-08-07 Thread WILTON
$1800 - bring a trailer Wilton Goldsboro, NC - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 1:13 PM Subject: [MBZ] Fw: 91 350SDL This can make a mighty fine vehicle for somebody. 'Best driving/riding car

Re: [MBZ] God intervenes on a 124 Benz

2013-08-07 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Well the pope rides in a Benz, so I would assume that God has a collection, my guess would be the big 600 is his daily. Anyway this is going to be more fodder for those paranormal TV shows that ask more questions than they answer, well they answer no questions but have a lot of funky

Re: [MBZ] God intervenes on a 124 Benz

2013-08-07 Thread Rich Thomas
The new Papa eschews the stately entrapments and prefers a more pedestrian ride, or to be pedestrian. Before his promotion he rode the bus around BA. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Aug 7, 2013, at 8:51 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Well the pope rides in a Benz, so I would

Re: [MBZ] Who change the Vegemite?

2013-08-07 Thread clay
Do not mistake the wet side of WA for the dry side. Not a bunch of wet going on east of the Cascade Range. Good heat, low moisture and they have to irrigate to get crops. Wonderful grape region now that competes and surpasses the dreck coming out of kalifornia. I much prefer the Washington

Re: [MBZ] wasps everywhere

2013-08-07 Thread Brian Toscano
Yellow jackets are the worst, especially if you're driving a tractor. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Raid Wasp and Hornet spray knocks 'em down pretty quickly. Not sure how good it is for paint... probably should rinse it quickly. Allan

Re: [MBZ] Who change the Vegemite?

2013-08-07 Thread Gary Hurst
i've never even seen a WA peach, but the GA/eastern peach is magnificent. when i lived there, i'd be driving out to the orchard every week and eating nearly nothing but peaches. On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 9:05 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Do not mistake the wet side of WA for the dry side.

Re: [MBZ] God intervenes on a 124 Benz

2013-08-07 Thread Dan Penoff
He drives a Ford Focus around Vatican City. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 7, 2013, at 8:55 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: The new Papa eschews the stately entrapments and prefers a more pedestrian ride, or to be pedestrian. Before his promotion he rode the bus

Re: [MBZ] Craig's List stuffed

2013-08-07 Thread Hendrik and Fay
I think we should help Wilton prepare an ad in the classic style. For starters you need to misspell Mercedes in the heading (OK there will need to be a lot of spelling mistake), this will get rid of a lot of time wasters, leaving those who are really searching and those who spell Mercedes,

Re: [MBZ] God intervenes on a limited 124 Benz

2013-08-07 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Well I think think he should be driving this http://www.motocars.co.uk/listing/mercedes-e60-amg-limited-1of-12/ Hendrik who has an engine half that size On 08/08/13 11:20, Dan Penoff wrote: He drives a Ford Focus around Vatican City. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 7, 2013, at 8:55 PM, Rich

Re: [MBZ] Craig's List stuffed

2013-08-07 Thread WILTON
Thanks for all the good tips Henny. I'm probably already on Kaleb's CL crack list. I sent 'im some iPhone photos of the car today; 'didn't notice 'til I viewed 'em on my computer that couple of 'em are slightly out of focus - that's cause I couldn't hold my shaky hand still enough, but, of

Re: [MBZ] 116 300SD

2013-08-07 Thread Mitch Haley
roger...@comcast.net wrote: Kaleb, My 1980 300SD does not have an EGR. There were differences between the CA versions and the rest of the world, so don't know about the left coast. Don't know about dumping oil from blowby, mine doesn't. An EGR on a 617 diesel is a very lame addition. My Indie

Re: [MBZ] Who change the Vegemite?

2013-08-07 Thread Peter Frederick
Fruit and vegetables are best when eaten immediately after picking them (or digging them) when fully mature. Anything that softens when it is fully ripe (peaches, oranges, tomatoes, etc) MUST either be picked when still rock hard and ripened off the plant or bred to be rock hard even when

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-07 Thread rickknoble
i was a GM guy my whole life but they aren't even real to me anyone.  Wrote Gary Didn't you have a Saturn with timing chain issues?  Rick Knoble Sent from My Samsung tablet ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

Re: [MBZ] 300SD battery/alternator problem

2013-08-07 Thread Rich Thomas
Kinda funny, there is one like 2 doors down from her new apartment. I might send her there. She had this guy do the alternator a coupla weeks ago before she moved so that is why I told her to go back there. I'm thinking that might not have been the actual problem, maybe a bad wire or

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-07 Thread Rich Thomas
Foci --R (sent from my miniPad) On Aug 7, 2013, at 5:23 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Both of the Ford Focus' we have/had are great cars. 170k and still going strong with minimal maintenance. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] I fought the saw and the saw won

2013-08-07 Thread Rich Thomas
I ride good ol merkin carbon these days but still have my Schwinn 10spd in the garage I bought in high school, trading in my Stingray i outgrew, which would be worth a fortune today. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Aug 7, 2013, at 5:05 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i learned about

Re: [MBZ] Who change the Vegemite?

2013-08-07 Thread Dieselhead
Varieties do make a difference, though. Delicious apples are anything but, being the mealiest flat, dullest flavored, bitterest skinned apples in existence. Their popularity is due entirely and completely to their blooming and ripening habits -- bloom takes place over about three days, the

Re: [MBZ] God intervenes on a 124 Benz

2013-08-07 Thread Gerry Archer
Do they make Foci in South America? Gerry He drives a Ford Focus around Vatican City. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 7, 2013, at 8:55 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: The new Papa eschews the stately entrapments and prefers a more pedestrian ride, or to be

Re: [MBZ] Who change the Vegemite?

2013-08-07 Thread Peter Frederick
Grimes Golden is the perfect apple here -- a friend of mine in grade school had one in their yard that was more or less completely unpruned and produced huge amounts of very large, wonderful apples every year with no user intervention other than picking them. Pretty much gone now, they