Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws

Here's a breakdown, somewhat dated (2001). I think the fireatm rate is now down to 50%. Rate Per Number 100,000 % of Total Firearms..16,8695.9.55.1 All Other Methods.13,7534.8

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws

It might help, but the greatest positive value of firearms is the prevention of death or injury when nobody is actually killed or injured. It's very difficult to quantify things that don't happen. Data I've seen indicates that guns prevent crimes between 1 and 5 times as often as they are used t

[MBZ] Spicy German animal musics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCCuGztL-Uc&feature=player_embedded Some healthy antics with no mercedes content. But from der Vaterland clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D -

Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah!

On Dec 18, 2013, at 4:44 PM, "Dan Penoff" wrote: > Turned in my notice at the School District today. > > I start working for the County on January 13th. +1 Good for you. Now. If we could only get Craig some gainful employment. Rick Sent from my iPhone _

Re: [MBZ] where are my message? 8utaba5y

Mitch wrote: I don't know what the deal is. Does this affect gmail... anyone?... mao I'm on embarqmail / centurylink. The problem is probably in Kalebs server. It's been there before. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http

Re: [MBZ] Weird brake problem

On 12/17/2013 9:17 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Dieselhead wrote: All four wheels, pretty much evenly. (by the heat test) Have you tried "forcefully" pulling up on the brake pedal and looking for blockage that would would keep the pedal from coming all the way up? Gerry I've had a parked car get

Re: [MBZ] where are my message? 8utaba5y

> > Fmiser wrote: > > Trying Mitch's trick. I haven't gotten a message through to the > > list since Dec 2nd. > Mitch wrote: > > That worked, but the code will be different tomorrow. The > listserv generates a bounce message with the code in it. Oh. I have not seen any bounces. But this is a

Re: [MBZ] food f-word

Actually, it's sprinkled on top for decoration as a rule. Too fancy for, I leave my bread plain, it's for eating, not decoration. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery op

Re: [MBZ] Weird brake problem

Thanks. I think something similar is possible with the brake MC. if it ever warms up I will try the bleeder test and see what happens. I guess if no pressure at the MC and pressure at the hoses, then it is hoses again.Pressure at MC would indicate MC it seems. Headscratcher, but not ins

Re: [MBZ] Dragonman and wells in Colorado [was: Re: Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws]

On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 20:35:18 -0600 Mountain Man wrote: > Craig wrote: > > The only landfill I knew of was on Woodman Valley Road just west of > > Black Forest Road and several miles west of Hwy 94. I didn't know > > there was a pick 'n' pull. > > Yeah, you never went far enough south, perhaps.

Re: [MBZ] millenials

On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 20:28:46 -0500 Gary Hurst wrote: > surely you jest? No. I surely do not. :-) Craig > On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Craig wrote: > > > On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:33:28 -0500 Gary Hurst > > wrote: > > > > > um, don't call me shirley? > > > > No, my wife is named Shirley. S

Re: [MBZ] Weird brake problem

Dieselhead wrote: > "That problem" With the clutch, or with the brake? clutch Curt had same problem. My son was doing the labor and would not do it again. The dealer mc was easy and short work. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://ww

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws

Greg wrote: > The removal from society of someone... Lots of us need to be removed from society. Don't count on gov't. Let it happen. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery op

Re: [MBZ] i like this guy

no, i really dig him big time On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 9:58 PM, Mountain Man wrote: > Gary wrote: > > Chris Hedges > > Really? - or are you mocking? > I like Hedges. Began seeing him and Lawrence Lessig back around > Occupy Wall Street. Both make good sense. > mao > > _

Re: [MBZ] OT Corvette pR0n 8utaba5y

Mitch wrote: > I know, just wanted to point out that a 1987 factory Corvette could do the > same thing as that 2014 tuner car... 3-pedal car sounds nice. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe o

Re: [MBZ] where are my message? 8utaba5y

Sometimes it does. sometimes not. I don't know if kleb fixes anything in between, or breaks something to start it. gmail filters out your own postings from the list email. ...most of the time Does this affect gmail... anyone?... mao ___ http://ww

Re: [MBZ] where are my message? 8utaba5y

Mitch wrote: > I don't know what the deal is. Does this affect gmail... anyone?... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listi

Re: [MBZ] where are my message? 8utaba5y

Trying Mitch's trick. I haven't gotten a message through to the list since Dec 2nd. --Philip Hey Philip, did you get the private message I sent you with the bridge video? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] i like this guy

Gary wrote: > Chris Hedges Really? - or are you mocking? I like Hedges. Began seeing him and Lawrence Lessig back around Occupy Wall Street. Both make good sense. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Un

[MBZ] Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Stevia, was Alternator casualty

Thanx for the great site Mitch.I just thought my brother would accept Stevia in a bottle, but from here on out he could go powder. Bob ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] where are my message? 8utaba5y

Fmiser wrote: Trying Mitch's trick. I haven't gotten a message through to the list since Dec 2nd. That worked, but the code will be different tomorrow. The listserv generates a bounce message with the code in it. Does your spam filter catch "undelivered mail returned to sender" messages from

Re: [MBZ] Dragonman and wells in Colorado [was: Re: Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws]

Craig wrote: > The only landfill I knew of was on Woodman Valley Road just west of Black > Forest Road and several miles west of Hwy 94. I didn't know there was a > pick 'n' pull. Yeah, you never went far enough south, perhaps. 94 runs east from Peterson AFB to Schreiver AFB, and it looks like bo

Re: [MBZ] food f-word

Peter wrote: > It's the black seed seen often on "artisan" bread. Not caraway, probably > has a nutty taste if I remember correctly. Definitely edible, as Mohammad says it cures everything but death. I would never put it in artisan bread. No nutty taste - more like pepper. mao

[MBZ] where are my message? 8utaba5y

Trying Mitch's trick. I haven't gotten a message through to the list since Dec 2nd. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.co

Re: [MBZ] OT Corvette pR0n 8utaba5y

OK Don wrote: The devil is in the details: "the first *2014* Corvette to break the 200 mph barrier." I know, just wanted to point out that a 1987 factory Corvette could do the same thing as that 2014 tuner car if you turned the boost up a bit on the 1987. And a 1988 tuner car could beat it b

Re: [MBZ] millenials

Thanks. It took me 50 years to learn that discretion is the better part of valor. On Dec 18, 2013 9:06 PM, "Mike Esh" wrote: > Good choice! > > > Michael E. Esh > 231-286-2344 > > > > On Dec 18, 2013, at 8:35 PM, Dwight Giles > wrote: > > > > I have decided to have my MB specialist do the glow p

Re: [MBZ] millenials

Good choice! Michael E. Esh 231-286-2344 > On Dec 18, 2013, at 8:35 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: > > I have decided to have my MB specialist do the glow plugs since it is too > cold & snowy to change them in the driveway. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > >

Re: [MBZ] millenials

I have decided to have my MB specialist do the glow plugs since it is too cold & snowy to change them in the driveway. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http:

Re: [MBZ] OT Corvette pR0n 8utaba5y

The devil is in the details: "the first *2014* Corvette to break the 200 mph barrier." On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Rich Thomas wrote: > >> 200mph on Texas (closed) road >> >> http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/chi- >> corvette-breaks-200-mph-story,0,4

Re: [MBZ] millenials

surely you jest? On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Craig wrote: > On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:33:28 -0500 Gary Hurst > wrote: > > > um, don't call me shirley? > > No, my wife is named Shirley. She is the one who made fudge recently. > > > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Craig wrote: > > > > > O

Re: [MBZ] millenials

Shirley, Got a price for dwight for OM602 Glow plugs, intake manifold and crossover gasket? Got Beru? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okieben

Re: [MBZ] millenials

On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 19:33:28 -0500 Gary Hurst wrote: > um, don't call me shirley? No, my wife is named Shirley. She is the one who made fudge recently. > On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Craig wrote: > > > On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 21:09:36 -0600 Mountain Man > > wrote: > > > > > Curt wrote: > >

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws

How many of the other 10K are justifiable homicides? That would include self defense and justifiable shootings by law enforcement or civilian. Including those numbers in the 10K would not give an accurate picture of the social value vs. the social cost of firearms. The removal from society of som

Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Stevia, was Alternator casualty 8utaba5y

Mitch Haley wrote: rdeaf...@aol.com wrote: I just purchased Stevia for 50 gm. for $9.50 plus $4.50 shipping for a total of $14.00 [ Pa. ]. A gift for my brother for Christmas . Here is the site : . http://www.nutrients-scientific.com/servlet/StoreFront Looks like the same 90% p

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws

Cars and guns each kill about 30K persons annually in the US. But 20K of the gun deaths are suicides, who would presumably kill themselves some other way if a gun wasn't available. Often in a car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://w

Re: [MBZ] millenials

um, don't call me shirley? On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Craig wrote: > On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 21:09:36 -0600 Mountain Man > wrote: > > > Curt wrote: > > > What like fudge? > > > > Very nice f-word. > > mao > > Indeed. Shirley made some a couple of days ago. > > > Craig > > __

Re: [MBZ] millenials

Well I tanked that one 3 Manfred -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mountain Man Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 4:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] millenials What scores do okiebenz readers get? http://www.pewresea

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws

Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Like how? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7N7TDBceHY ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/me

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws

A coupla years ago a kid drove a Toada into a big oak tree up the road. The paper had some pics up for an hour or two, and it looked survivable -- air bags went off, the car was not that badly smashed. But I was told by my buddy the fire commissioner (trucks responded) that he drove straight

Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: Stevia, was Alternator casualty 8utaba5y

rdeaf...@aol.com wrote: I just purchased Stevia for 50 gm. for $9.50 plus $4.50 shipping for a total of $14.00 [ Pa. ]. A gift for my brother for Christmas . Here is the site : . http://www.nutrients-scientific.com/servlet/StoreFront Looks like the same 90% powder that nuts.com

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws

i think jumpers are popular. also popular are overdosers and those who hang themselves. there might be more but that is what i come up with offhand if no gun is available On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > Like how? > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Scott Ritchey >

[MBZ] i like this guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N0fzISZ7io -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com * ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws

Like how? On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: > > Cars and guns each kill about 30K persons annually in the US. But 20K of > the gun deaths are suicides, who would presumably kill themselves some > other > way if a gun wasn't available. > > -Original Message- > From: M

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws

Cars and guns each kill about 30K persons annually in the US. But 20K of the gun deaths are suicides, who would presumably kill themselves some other way if a gun wasn't available. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Wednes

[MBZ] Subject: Re: Stevia, was Alternator casualty 8utaba5y

"It looks like the sweetest, least aftertasty compound found in Stevia is being commercialized as Truvia, complete with bulk additives to make it measure like sugar, so a 9oz jar of Truvia won't last as long as a 4oz bag of powdered Stevia. Mitch" I just purchased Stevia for 50 gm. for $9

Re: [MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah!

Tell your new boss you work for the CIA and you won't have to show up at all, but keep getting your check. --R On 12/18/13 5:44 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Turned in my notice at the School District today. I start working for the County on January 13th. Better than a 10% bump in pay, much better

[MBZ] Civil Service, Oh Yeah!

Turned in my notice at the School District today. I start working for the County on January 13th. Better than a 10% bump in pay, much better benefits, and lots of upward mobility opportunities. Been trying to get on there for over two years and finally made it. Got a bunch of sick days I have

Re: [MBZ] 1995 E320 no parking lights on Left8utaba5y

Yes the left lights will not come on in any positions. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 18, 2013, at 1:52 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > > Heh. I always forget about those... > > Dan > >> On Dec 18, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: >> >> >> Driver knows that there are right and left parking light

Re: [MBZ] algae to crude oil in minutes

A year or two ago was some PR about making algae diesel or something, growing the algae in sunny places where there is salty dirty water, which is pretty much a lot of Texas where the all bidness goes on. This just appears to be accelerating whatever made petroleum to begin with. But it is ne

[MBZ] algae to crude oil in minutes

[1]http://www.pnnl.gov/news/release.aspx?id=1029 Allan References 1. http://www.pnnl.gov/news/release.aspx?id=1029 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://

Re: [MBZ] OT Corvette pR0n 8utaba5y

Rich Thomas wrote: 200mph on Texas (closed) road http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/chi-corvette-breaks-200-mph-story,0,4019876.story A turbo Corvette prototype did 200 at TRC back in the mid 1980s, was written up in Road and Track magazine. A Chevy engineer drove it from Mic

Re: [MBZ] Top Down in December.

I do not have the windscreen. The wind noise and wind without it is not bad at all. It is 100% better that the Mustang was. Bob R On Dec 18, 2013 7:06 AM, "Dan Penoff" wrote: > Bob, > > Do you have the windscreen in place? If so, what was it like in the cabin > as far as wind and noise? > > Dan

Re: [MBZ] 1995 E320 no parking lights on Left8utaba5y

Heh. I always forget about those... Dan > On Dec 18, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > > > Driver knows that there are right and left parking light positions on the > headlamp switch? > > Mitch. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list

[MBZ] OT Corvette pR0n

200mph on Texas (closed) road http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/chi-corvette-breaks-200-mph-story,0,4019876.story --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws

and how many killed by tylenol? or shaolin kung fu? On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 1:03 PM, OK Don wrote: > And, how many people do cars kill vs. guns??? > > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: > > > Curt Raymond wrote: > > > >> Legal full autos are actually licensed not unlike a c

Re: [MBZ] Stevia, was Alternator casualty 8utaba5y

why not dump all synthetic sweeteners from table sugar down the line? On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Denninger's mention of Stevia was interesting, as I'd never heard of it > before. > 1/4lb of powdered herb is as sweet as 60lb of sucrose, but has potential > for > bitte

Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty

you make a very compelling point here, alex, with a line of reasoning that i'm quite sympathetic to On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On Dec 16, 2013 8:59 PM, "Gary Hurst" wrote: > > > > do i even like this guy? i think i ought > > to like him if i'm going to > > supp

Re: [MBZ] 1995 E320 no parking lights on Left8utaba5y

Driver knows that there are right and left parking light positions on the headlamp switch? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws

And, how many people do cars kill vs. guns??? On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Curt Raymond wrote: > >> Legal full autos are actually licensed not unlike a car. >> > > Well, there are a lot of unlikes in there, for instance it hasn't been > illegal to make new cars to sell

Re: [MBZ] 1995 E320 no parking lights on Left

I'm not familiar with this model, but in other MBs I have either removed or replaced the headlight switch in it hasn't been a difficult job. You probably have to remove the bolster under the dash to get to it, pull the knob off, remove the nut on the shaft that holds it in place, and disconnect

Re: [MBZ] Stevia, was Alternator casualty

You can grow the plant in your garden. You can make your own powder. It IS sweet! I'm not sure if it will grow in MI, but I think so. It looks much similar to mint, but smaller leaves. I have seen it growing in the south. Denninger's mention of Stevia was interesting, as I'd never heard of

[MBZ] 1995 E320 no parking lights on Left

Brother's driving the 1995 e320 wagon. lightbulb failure light came on. No parking lights on left side of car, with parkign lights on, or with just he lift parking lights on. Checked the fuse for Left side, good. switch feels dicey and brother states that one day it was really hard to turn, he t

Re: [MBZ] Stevia, was Alternator casualty 8utaba5y

Denninger's mention of Stevia was interesting, as I'd never heard of it before. 1/4lb of powdered herb is as sweet as 60lb of sucrose, but has potential for bitter licorice aftertaste? There have been allegations of health concerns, but nothing to compare to saccharine or cyclamate. Advocates cla

Re: [MBZ] millenials

On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 21:09:36 -0600 Mountain Man wrote: > Curt wrote: > > What like fudge? > > Very nice f-word. > mao Indeed. Shirley made some a couple of days ago. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive

Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty

eh, i find karl an insufferable blowhard, always screaming on how everyone he doesn't agree with needs to be "tried for treason" you can keep him :) On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 11:09 AM, rickknoble wrote: > Hey Gary, > > Here's an article for you (or anyone else that needs to get healthier) > th

Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty

On Dec 16, 2013 8:59 PM, "Gary Hurst" wrote: > > do i even like this guy? i think i ought > to like him if i'm going to > support him for such a position > Why would you? This is the same Peter who wants to enact punitive taxes on private car ownership -- the latter being the reason we're all o

Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty

Hey Gary, Here's an article for you (or anyone else that needs to get healthier) that's pretty good. http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=226887 I follow this guy's posts regularly. He is more of an economist than health guy, but he makes good points on most subjects he writes on. Rick Knob

[MBZ] Dragonman and wells in Colorado [was: Re: Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws]

On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 20:56:00 -0600 Mountain Man wrote: > Craig - when you lived out there by Peyton, did you know Dragonman? No, I did not. > Dragonman was the guy at the top of the hill on Hwy94 east of CSpgs, > just east of the landfill and pick n pull. The only landfill I knew of was on Wo

Re: [MBZ] Top Down in December.

Bob, Do you have the windscreen in place? If so, what was it like in the cabin as far as wind and noise? Dan > On Dec 18, 2013, at 8:31 AM, Bob Rentfro wrote: > > Since it was 78°F yesterday, it was the first drive home with the top down > day. Very nice. > The last drop top I had was a '99 M

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws

Curt Raymond wrote: Legal full autos are actually licensed not unlike a car. Well, there are a lot of unlikes in there, for instance it hasn't been illegal to make new cars to sell since 1986, and you don't have to ask fedgov for permission to take possession of the used car you just bought a

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws

On Dec 17, 2013 8:24 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: I had a chance to put a full belt through a WW I water cooled BAR a few years ago, courtesy of Brownells. That wasn't a BAR--it's air-cooled and feeds from a box magazine. Maybe a Browning M1917? Alex yep. just trying

[MBZ] Top Down in December.

Since it was 78°F yesterday, it was the first drive home with the top down day. Very nice. The last drop top I had was a '99 Mustang. There is no comparison between the CLK and the Mustang. No manual latches, no boot, no squeaks and creaks, far less wind in the people space. Ultra bueno. Bob R ___