Re: [MBZ] 124 AC woe
Thanks all! I think Peter has given me a good place to start trouble shooting. Reading the HVAC manual about the evaporator temperature sensor, there is this note: On vehicles as of 09/87, the refrigerant compressor is switched off by the control unit after 2 minutes of operation if there is a short circuit in the temperature sensor evaporator (resistance value below 2.5 kOhm). This prevents continuous refrigerant compressor operation and subsequent icing-up of the evaporator. The refrigerant compressor is only switched on again after the engine has been switched off and on again. So I shall attempt to test the evap temp sensor and the expansion valve. No dry ice here. I do have a can of air, can turn that upside down and get some pretty cold spray. Hmmm... -Max On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: W124 has a thermistor just in behind the evaporator that senses the temp. Will cycle the compressor to prevent freeze-up. However, if the expansion valve is bad, it will seriously overcool, and then the computer will not turn the compressor back on until the evaporator thaws out, which takes a while with no airflow. The temperature of the return line to the compressor should be 35 to 38F, whatever pressure that is on an R134a system. You can test the expansion valve with some very cold ice (dry ice works best, but it's hard to find and dangerous. Use a cube straight from the freezer). With the system up and going, put the ice on the bellows of the expansion valve (the do-dad on top). This should close the expansion valve and drop the pressure in the return line to near vaccum (which is why dry ice works better, it's way to cold -- ice won't go below 32F and you need it colder). If it doesn't drop, the expansion valve is stuck open and it will seriously over-cool the evaporator. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 124 AC woe
Evaporator temp sensor is above the accelerator pedal on the side of the heater box. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 124 AC woe
The vent temperature was really nice, it would pull down to 0 deg F. Way too cold, no matter how nice you might like it to be there. Things'll ice up. I saw such temps once on the Ebola Fishtank, when the filter screen at the expansion valve was gunked up. (This is unlikely to be your particular problem, the system in a 250C is unlike yours.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 500SEL
Any chance the fuel pump is shutting off when in 'run' position? They come on during cranking, but depend upon the RPM-sensor in order to stay running. The 380SL I once bought on the cheap acted something like that. I was kind to the PO, and towed it away on a rope rather than jumping around the relay and driving it off in front of him. I resoldered the relay later that day, and the car was a daily driver after that. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 500SEL
Possibly. I'm still trying to coordinate a visit to check it out. Pins 7 8 to jumper the fuel pump in the relay socket. Thanks! Dan On Jul 13, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Any chance the fuel pump is shutting off when in 'run' position? They come on during cranking, but depend upon the RPM-sensor in order to stay running. The 380SL I once bought on the cheap acted something like that. I was kind to the PO, and towed it away on a rope rather than jumping around the relay and driving it off in front of him. I resoldered the relay later that day, and the car was a daily driver after that. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 500SEL
Pins 7 8 to jumper the fuel pump in the relay socket. I made a cable using some surplus connector pins and a spare dome-light rocker switch. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] interesting ac conversion stuff
http://www.klimakit.com/w123-products/ they have 124 stuff too thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] interesting ac conversion stuff
Sweet. Looks like they've done a nice jobs putting all this stuff together. Prices aren't bad, either. Dan On Jul 13, 2014, at 1:49 PM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: http://www.klimakit.com/w123-products/ they have 124 stuff too thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Similar Note - my 91 300D runing warmer - Time for Burping??
I'm sure everything is clean -- When I replaced the radiator a couple of weeks ago I cleaned everything I could.But i was thinking, with all the stuff I did to the cooling system recently (new radiator, new Water pump, new T'stat) I thought maybe I have a air bubble in the system somewhere? what's the best way to burp the system? I was thinking of opening the system at the upper rad hose. I suspect there's a procedure for this. What works?? LarryT What's the best was On 7/12/2014 10:19 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: should be lots of hot air blowing back. Check for a cold spot in the radiator in front of the fan, that's where they crap up first. Also check for junk and or oil on the radiator fins or between radiator and evaporator. The engine temp on the TE dropped dramatically when I put a new condenser in it last year. You can't see through the old one for all the junk stuck to the fins. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Similar Note - my 91 300D runing warmer - Time for Burping??
Since I started following JimC's advice and filling through the upper radiator hose I have had way fewer problems with air, just fill slow and let the air keep burping out until you see coolant come out the upper hole in the radiator, then jam the hose on and final fill to the bottle. IIRC it helps to have the snout of the car pointing up. Fortunately my driveway slopes up to the garage just slightly. -Curt From: LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Similar Note - my 91 300D runing warmer - Time for Burping?? I'm sure everything is clean -- When I replaced the radiator a couple of weeks ago I cleaned everything I could. But i was thinking, with all the stuff I did to the cooling system recently (new radiator, new Water pump, new T'stat) I thought maybe I have a air bubble in the system somewhere? what's the best way to burp the system? I was thinking of opening the system at the upper rad hose. I suspect there's a procedure for this. What works?? LarryT What's the best was On 7/12/2014 10:19 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: should be lots of hot air blowing back. Check for a cold spot in the radiator in front of the fan, that's where they crap up first. Also check for junk and or oil on the radiator fins or between radiator and evaporator. The engine temp on the TE dropped dramatically when I put a new condenser in it last year. You can't see through the old one for all the junk stuck to the fins. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] test message
I need some replied to this message to see what happens. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] test message
Here ya go Dan On Jul 13, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I need some replied to this message to see what happens. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] test message
It appears with it setup this way replies to the list are going back to the poster instead of to the list. That will not work. For example, in this reply, when I hit reply, it was only sending back to Dan, I had to hit reply all to reply back to dan and the list. On 7/13/2014 1:33 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Here ya go Dan On Jul 13, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I need some replied to this message to see what happens. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] test 2
---BeginMessage--- Testing a different option ---End Message--- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] test 2
---BeginMessage--- And how did this work? Dan On Jul 13, 2014, at 2:40 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Subject: test 2 Date: July 13, 2014 at 2:39:48 PM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Testing a different option ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ---End Message--- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] test message
---BeginMessage--- Came through loud and clear... From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 2:32 PM Subject: [MBZ] test message I need some replied to this message to see what happens. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.---End Message--- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] test message
---BeginMessage--- Came through loud and clear... From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 2:32 PM Subject: [MBZ] test message I need some replied to this message to see what happens. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.---End Message--- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] test message
---BeginMessage--- Mine replies to both you and the list. From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] test message It appears with it setup this way replies to the list are going back to the poster instead of to the list. That will not work. For example, in this reply, when I hit reply, it was only sending back to Dan, I had to hit reply all to reply back to dan and the list. On 7/13/2014 1:33 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Here ya go Dan On Jul 13, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I need some replied to this message to see what happens. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.---End Message--- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] test 2
---BeginMessage--- This also looks good, I see both you and the list in the to box. From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 1969 7:00 PM Subject: [MBZ] test 2 Testing a different option ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- next part -- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Subject: test 2 Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 13:39:48 -0500 Size: 900 URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20140713/f66b5566/attachment.mht ---End Message--- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] test 2
---BeginMessage--- In any option that satisfies the Yahoo requirement when you get a reply, you have to reply to all in order to send it back to the list, otherwise it will just go back to the original poster and not back to the list. When you replied just now did you reply to all or just hit reply? On 7/13/2014 1:41 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: And how did this work? Dan On Jul 13, 2014, at 2:40 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: *From: *Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net mailto:ka...@striplin.net *Subject: **test 2* *Date: *July 13, 2014 at 2:39:48 PM EDT *To: *Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com Testing a different option ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ---End Message--- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] test message
---BeginMessage--- So the problem is going to be when people reply its only going to back to who sent it, unless they remember to hit reply all. I think this is going to end up causing more problems than it fixed. On 7/13/2014 1:43 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Came through loud and clear... *From:* Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com *To:* Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com *Sent:* Sunday, July 13, 2014 2:32 PM *Subject:* [MBZ] test message I need some replied to this message to see what happens. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com http://www.okiebenz.com/ To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ---End Message--- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] test 2
---BeginMessage--- Dwight replied below but it only came to me, not the list. Some folks might have their email program setup to always reply to all without having to manually do it. I do not think that is the case with most people though. On 7/13/2014 1:45 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: Good here with my gmail. On Jul 13, 2014 2:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Forwarded message -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net mailto:ka...@striplin.net To: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com mailto:d...@penoff.com, Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 13:44:03 -0500 Subject: Re: [MBZ] test 2 In any option that satisfies the Yahoo requirement when you get a reply, you have to reply to all in order to send it back to the list, otherwise it will just go back to the original poster and not back to the list. When you replied just now did you reply to all or just hit reply? On 7/13/2014 1:41 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: And how did this work? Dan On Jul 13, 2014, at 2:40 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: *From: *Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net mailto:ka...@striplin.net mailto:ka...@striplin.net mailto:ka...@striplin.net *Subject: **test 2* *Date: *July 13, 2014 at 2:39:48 PM EDT *To: *Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com Testing a different option ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ---End Message--- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] test 3
need a reply ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] test 3
Here ya go. Dan On Jul 13, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: need a reply ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] test 3
When you replied did you just hit reply, or reply all, or were both mine and the list email address in the send box? On 7/13/2014 1:53 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Here ya go. Dan On Jul 13, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: need a reply ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] test 4
Once again, need a reply, but let me know if you have both my email address and list address in the email send box ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] test 3
Which came to everybody. I hit reply and I can see its going to go to everybody... Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Kaleb Striplin ka...@striplin.net; Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] test 3 Here ya go. Dan On Jul 13, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: need a reply ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] test 5
Same thing, let me know what addresses it puts in your send to box ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] test 5
Just shows the list now. This is probably un-desirable since it doesn't show who its from, just shows the list. From: Mercedes Discussion List via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 2:59 PM Subject: [MBZ] test 5 Same thing, let me know what addresses it puts in your send to box ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] test 5
Mow replies only to list On Jul 13, 2014 3:00 PM, Mercedes Discussion List via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Same thing, let me know what addresses it puts in your send to box ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] test 5
Yea, thats right, as I have no idea who this is, haha On 7/13/2014 2:01 PM, Mercedes Discussion List via Mercedes wrote: Just shows the list now. This is probably un-desirable since it doesn't show who its from, just shows the list. From: Mercedes Discussion List via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 2:59 PM Subject: [MBZ] test 5 Same thing, let me know what addresses it puts in your send to box ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] last test
Last one, same as before ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] test 5
The phantom... From: Mercedes Discussion List via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] test 5 Yea, thats right, as I have no idea who this is, haha On 7/13/2014 2:01 PM, Mercedes Discussion List via Mercedes wrote: Just shows the list now. This is probably un-desirable since it doesn't show who its from, just shows the list. From: Mercedes Discussion List via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 2:59 PM Subject: [MBZ] test 5 Same thing, let me know what addresses it puts in your send to box ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] test 5
I think maybe we should leave it like that then we can guess who is posting, that could be lots of fun. I think we would all figure out when it was dr jabba though. On 7/13/2014 2:04 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: The phantom... From: Mercedes Discussion List via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] test 5 Yea, thats right, as I have no idea who this is, haha On 7/13/2014 2:01 PM, Mercedes Discussion List via Mercedes wrote: Just shows the list now. This is probably un-desirable since it doesn't show who its from, just shows the list. From: Mercedes Discussion List via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 2:59 PM Subject: [MBZ] test 5 Same thing, let me know what addresses it puts in your send to box ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] last test
You and the list... From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: [MBZ] last test Last one, same as before ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] last test
Do when a reply comes back, it will go to the list and the poster, but it you reply back to that reply, it only goes back to the poster unless you hit reply all. As in this case, Curt replied to my post, it went to me and the list, but when I replied to him, only only went back to him unless I hit reply all. I will leave it like this for a little bit and see what sort of problems it causes. On 7/13/2014 2:06 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: You and the list... *From:* Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com *To:* Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com *Sent:* Sunday, July 13, 2014 3:03 PM *Subject:* [MBZ] last test Last one, same as before ___ http://www.okiebenz.com http://www.okiebenz.com/ To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] last test
So for Dwight, it only came back to me, with Curt, it had both addresses. I think this depends on how the mail client is setup. I think this is going to cause problems. On 7/13/2014 2:07 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: Only you On Jul 13, 2014 3:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Last one, same as before ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] last test
Interesting, for me its showing you and the list once again... From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] last test Do when a reply comes back, it will go to the list and the poster, but it you reply back to that reply, it only goes back to the poster unless you hit reply all. As in this case, Curt replied to my post, it went to me and the list, but when I replied to him, only only went back to him unless I hit reply all. I will leave it like this for a little bit and see what sort of problems it causes. On 7/13/2014 2:06 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: You and the list... *From:* Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com *To:* Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com *Sent:* Sunday, July 13, 2014 3:03 PM *Subject:* [MBZ] last test Last one, same as before ___ http://www.okiebenz.com http://www.okiebenz.com/ To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] last test
Yes because using reply all will give sender 2 copies of same message. On Jul 13, 2014 3:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So for Dwight, it only came back to me, with Curt, it had both addresses. I think this depends on how the mail client is setup. I think this is going to cause problems. On 7/13/2014 2:07 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: Only you On Jul 13, 2014 3:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Last one, same as before ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Similar Note - my 91 300D runing warmer - Time for Burping??
Quick and dirty prime is to remove the pressure cap, squeeze the upper radiator hose flat, then crimp the small vent line to the expansion tank shut and release the upper hose. This will pull coolant through the lower radiator hose and heater core back into the head. If you have a bubble, the level in the tank will go down and stay down. Repeat, adding coolant as necessary, until the coolant just sloshes around and the expansion tank doesn't go empty. Fill to the middle line on the tank. If you did not test the thermostat before you put it in, remember that occasionally you do get a dead one in the new box Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] test 3
Got it On 7/13/2014 13:52, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: need a reply ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7847 - Release Date: 07/13/14 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] last test
Ooo, if I reply to all I get the list twice... I guess this is the best compromise though, makes the list work without the bounce issues... Curt From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] last test So for Dwight, it only came back to me, with Curt, it had both addresses. I think this depends on how the mail client is setup. I think this is going to cause problems. On 7/13/2014 2:07 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: Only you On Jul 13, 2014 3:03 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Last one, same as before ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] test 4
On the first one Both You and lest came up when I hit Reply. On this one only Your Addy came up had to add List Addy. On 7/13/2014 13:56, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Once again, need a reply, but let me know if you have both my email address and list address in the email send box ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7847 - Release Date: 07/13/14 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Republic wireless
Who was it that had Republic wireless? I've been thinking of making the switch, which phone do you have? The two choices are Moto X and Moto G. I'm curious if the X is worth the extra $150. It looks like either of them will smoke my iPhone. I guess the fact that with Republic wireless I'll be saving enough to pay for the X every 5 months ought to push me to the X. Also I've been pushing the Made in USA thing for awhile and the X is pretty much the only one... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Of batteries and clocks
I finally had the battery in the 85 300d die ... It was reading 12.79 volts and I would just get a click (with all lights shutting off). I don't think that I can legitimately complain about it; it had the blessed star on it (less expensive than interstate or snears), and I saw 20 Jan 2007 in my handwriting on the top... Anyhow after replacing it, the clock is kaput. Electrolytic caps? (It used to make a ticking noise previously...) How gnarly of a job is it? -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Republic wireless
On Jul 13, 2014 3:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Who was it that had Republic wireless? I don't, but multiple friends have recommended it. It is local (Cary NC) but I've never actually met anyone who works for them. I've been thinking of making the switch, which phone do you have? The two choices are Moto X and Moto G. I'm curious if the X is worth the extra $150. It looks like either of them will smoke my iPhone. The G is a strong entry-level phone, but the X is really nice - I considered switching my Nexus 5 for one, and people who have done so are generally happy about it. That said the X+1 should be out very soon, though I'm not sure how long it will take Republic to offer it. If you bought the G and were happy with the Republic service, you could probably recoup most of the cost of the phone on CL or eBay - they are locked to the carrier - and then get whatever you wanted at the time. I guess the fact that with Republic wireless I'll be saving enough to pay for the X every 5 months ought to push me to the X. Also I've been pushing the Made in USA thing for awhile and the X is pretty much the only one... That's the truth! Best, Tim -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Of batteries and clocks
Yup. Two of the them if memory serves me correctly. If you have basic soldering skills and the tools necessary to remove the cluster, it's an easy and cheap fix. Be sure to go with 25WVDC caps for replacements. Or maybe it was 50s. I just remember that the original caps are marginal as far as the voltage rating, which is one of the reasons why they fail. You can go up a notch with the replacements and should. Easily found at Radio Shack as I recall, too. Dan On Jul 13, 2014, at 3:53 PM, John Reames via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I finally had the battery in the 85 300d die ... It was reading 12.79 volts and I would just get a click (with all lights shutting off). I don't think that I can legitimately complain about it; it had the blessed star on it (less expensive than interstate or snears), and I saw 20 Jan 2007 in my handwriting on the top... Anyhow after replacing it, the clock is kaput. Electrolytic caps? (It used to make a ticking noise previously...) How gnarly of a job is it? -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] interesting ac conversion stuff
I see only 123 126 (Rich, check out the O-ring kit). Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Jul 13, 2014 1:49 PM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote: http://www.klimakit.com/w123-products/ they have 124 stuff too thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] test 5
I see Mercedes@Okie... Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] test 5
It puts: from: Mercedes Discussion List via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com reply-to: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com to: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com date: Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 1:59 PMsubject: [MBZ] test 5mailing list: mercedes.okiebenz.com Filter messages from this mailing list On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Mercedes Discussion List via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Same thing, let me know what addresses it puts in your send to box ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Of batteries and clocks
What Dan said, I did the replacement on one of my cars, can't remember which one. Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net; Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Of batteries and clocks Yup. Two of the them if memory serves me correctly. If you have basic soldering skills and the tools necessary to remove the cluster, it's an easy and cheap fix. Be sure to go with 25WVDC caps for replacements. Or maybe it was 50s. I just remember that the original caps are marginal as far as the voltage rating, which is one of the reasons why they fail. You can go up a notch with the replacements and should. Easily found at Radio Shack as I recall, too. Dan On Jul 13, 2014, at 3:53 PM, John Reames via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I finally had the battery in the 85 300d die ... It was reading 12.79 volts and I would just get a click (with all lights shutting off). I don't think that I can legitimately complain about it; it had the blessed star on it (less expensive than interstate or snears), and I saw 20 Jan 2007 in my handwriting on the top... Anyhow after replacing it, the clock is kaput. Electrolytic caps? (It used to make a ticking noise previously...) How gnarly of a job is it? -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] last test
from: Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com reply-to: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com, Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com to: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net, Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com date: Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 2:06 PMsubject: Re: [MBZ] last testmailing list: mercedes.okiebenz.com Filter messages from this mailing list On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You and the list... From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 3:03 PM Subject: [MBZ] last test Last one, same as before ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Of batteries and clocks
Anyhow after replacing it, the clock is kaput. Electrolytic caps? How gnarly of a job is it? The worst part is getting the hands off of the clock, IIRC. Two spoons, used as levers. (Bowls as fulcra.) This should help avoid breaking things. You can take this opportunity to repaint the needles if they're faded. IIRC a good color match is tangerine. This assumes you can solder without killing things, but as soldering goes it's a pretty easy one. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Of batteries and clocks
I don't recall having to disassemble the clock, that is, remove the hands. Dan On Jul 13, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anyhow after replacing it, the clock is kaput. Electrolytic caps? How gnarly of a job is it? The worst part is getting the hands off of the clock, IIRC. Two spoons, used as levers. (Bowls as fulcra.) This should help avoid breaking things. You can take this opportunity to repaint the needles if they're faded. IIRC a good color match is tangerine. This assumes you can solder without killing things, but as soldering goes it's a pretty easy one. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Similar Note - my 91 300D runing warmer - Time forBurping??
I used to have air bubble problems in 617 cooling systems. They eventually go away after repeated coolant top-up. But never had bubble problems after I started filling through the top radiator hose (disconnected at the radiator and held vertical). -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 2:13 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Similar Note - my 91 300D runing warmer - Time forBurping?? I'm sure everything is clean -- When I replaced the radiator a couple of weeks ago I cleaned everything I could.But i was thinking, with all the stuff I did to the cooling system recently (new radiator, new Water pump, new T'stat) I thought maybe I have a air bubble in the system somewhere? what's the best way to burp the system? I was thinking of opening the system at the upper rad hose. I suspect there's a procedure for this. What works?? LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Of batteries and clocks
Yeah, the hand repaint is a good idea... What vendor paint did you use? I expect that you'd sort of mask the plastic head to keep it clean? Soldering isn't any issue, as I've a 7w iron and hands (just barely) steady enough to use it for some SMD work... but keep that RoHS solder (crap) away from me (you can pry my 63/37 from the clutches of my cold dead hands!) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 13, 2014, at 16:21, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Anyhow after replacing it, the clock is kaput. Electrolytic caps? How gnarly of a job is it? The worst part is getting the hands off of the clock, IIRC. Two spoons, used as levers. (Bowls as fulcra.) This should help avoid breaking things. You can take this opportunity to repaint the needles if they're faded. IIRC a good color match is tangerine. This assumes you can solder without killing things, but as soldering goes it's a pretty easy one. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] last test
Curt wrote: Interesting, for me its showing you and the list once again... My client put okiebenz in to and Curt in CC. I did a plain reply. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] last test
Same here. I've just been taking the individual address out. If that's what it takes to stop the bounces I'm all for it. Dan On Jul 13, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Curt wrote: Interesting, for me its showing you and the list once again... My client put okiebenz in to and Curt in CC. I did a plain reply. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Of batteries and clocks
I don't recall having to disassemble the clock, that is, remove the hands. I suppose it depends on the clock. I only have experience with the ones buried in the tachometer. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Of batteries and clocks
Yeah, the hand repaint is a good idea... What vendor paint did you use? It is Americana acrylic paint. Tangerine color, got it at the hobby shop many years ago. I expect that you'd sort of mask the plastic head to keep it clean? I use a small brush, and some degree of care. Masking tape would work too, I imagine! :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
