date:20150111

Reminds me of the time I thought one of our snowmobiles had a seized
engine.

We had a set of stairs leading from the side yard down into the heated
basement, just big enough to get the snowmobile down the single flight.
Garage was not heated, I thought I needed to rebuild or replace the engine,
so we moved it down into the basement, which wasn't too hard with gravity
helping.

As soon as it was in, I started taking it apart  and quickly found ice had
frozen in place the ring gear for the electric start.

Duh!

Let the ice melt, engine started fine, called neighbors (big farm boys)
because we needed some real muscle to get that sled back out of the
basement...

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] 300D

2015-01-11 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes

Thanks for the support guys,  I appreciate.

If there was a single issue with the car, I'd be happy to work with him on
it get him some parts, etc.  But there isn't any specific complaint at
this point, besides the low compression numbers (which don't make any
sense), and his general discontent with his decision to buy the car.

He signed an "as-is" bill of sale and the moneys in the bank, so I'm
protected.

Jaime


On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I’m going challenge that logic for a number of reasons.
>
> While I understand what you’re suggesting and it sounds all fine and
> dandy, you have no idea what this person has done to the car during their
> short period of ownership.  You’re also essentially accepting their
> challenge of the “fitness of merchantability” as well - in other words,
> you’re alluding that there may be some basis to their claims that the car
> is somehow defective or been misrepresented.
>
> I am assuming the car was sold as-is, with no warranty or guarantee.  If
> in fact, that is the case, any duress on the part of the buyer is theirs
> and theirs only.
>
> Do understand that if I sold something and it had a defect that I wasn’t
> aware of, and the buyer brought it to my attention in a relatively short
> period of time, I would try to work something out to address the defect
> (after verifying that it truly was a defect.)  If this is nothing more than
> a veiled attempt at dealing with buyers remorse, which it sounds like it
> is, too bad.
>
>
>
> I once sold a 15” MacBook Pro on Craigslist.  The buyer came by with his
> son and checked the MBP out in detail.  I spoke to them at length about
> their intended use, as this was the last of the CoreDuo machines, NOT
> Core2Duo, meaning it had reached end of life as far as OS upgrades.  I
> stated this clearly in the ad, discussed it with them at great length,
> etc., going well out of my way to make sure they understood the limitations
> of the laptop.  They assured me they "knew all about it" and that they had
> researched their needs in detail, and this machine would be just fine.
>
> The next day I get a text from the buyer that they’re coming over to
> return the machine, as it is “no good”.  I call them and ask what is
> wrong.  After five minutes of nonsensical carrying on about how the machine
> is “bad”, they finally come out and say that the FireWire port is not
> working.  We had checked it when they took delivery and it was functioning.
>
> I told them to bring it by with whatever device they were using and if it
> was indeed defective i would return their money as long as they returned
> everything in the same condition it was sold in.
>
> They came back a few hours later with an external FireWire hard drive and
> a later model MacBook for reference.  We tested everything, and it turned
> out that the FireWire port on their external hard drive was bad.  End of
> story.  They were not happy.
>
> Got a text the next morning from the guy saying the MBP didn’t meet their
> needs and they would be selling it. ???
>
> That was the last time I ever sold something on CL from my house.  It was
> scary.
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Jan 11, 2015, at 5:01 PM, LarryT via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > I think Max's suggestion is perfect.  But I think renting him a 300D for
> $50 a day is too low.   Maybe $80 or $100?   It will either satisfy him and
> you'll get the car back or he'll stop bothering you...
> >
> > LarryT
> > 91 300D (just turned 243K and just got a *perfect* oil analysis!)
> >
> >
> > On 1/11/2015 8:40 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Sorry to hear that.  You could offer to buy it back, his purchase price
> >> minus $50 per day plus other fees and expenses.  There will be another
> >> buyer.
> >>
> >> Max Dillon,
> >> Charleston SC
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[MBZ] OT "Wall buddy" picture hanging system

I had a large 42" W X 19" H art work reframed.  The frame shop did a great
job but they installed "wall buddies" on the back upper corners rather than
hanging a picture wire across the back.  Anybody ever heard of this?  is it
as good as/better than conventional picture wire?

Here's a video that sort of explains it.

https://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play;_ylt=A0LEVjip9bJUoTcAdZAPxQt.;_ylu=X3oDMTBsa3ZzMnBvBHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkAw--?p=wall+buddies+instructions&tnr=21&vid=61E5785065528BE57EF661E5785065528BE57EF6&l=510&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fts1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DUN.608050520644649260%26pid%3D15.1&rurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DinhZRyMXx7s&sigr=11b7idfb4&tt=b&tit=How+to+Hang+Picture+that+has+our+Wall+Buddy+System.mpg&sigt=11m8v03ab&back=https%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fyhs%2Fsearch%3Fp%3Dwall%2Bbuddies%2Binstrucitons%2Bvideo%26ei%3DUTF-8%26hsimp%3Dyhs-001%26hspart%3Dmozilla&sigb=13bm25hdl&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Everybody laugh at the idiot

2015-01-11 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes


I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who does silly things like that.

Most of my recent jobs have gone well, but I foolishly didn't replace  
the tensioner on the TE last time I put a belt on it, so I'll now have  
to put one in in the cold -- damned thing failed shortly after I put a  
new belt on, like usual.


May be why the A/C quit, eh?

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 300D

A long time ago I got real lucky on a car deal I did with a guy.  He wrote me a 
check and was supposed to b getting a loan or something then I could cash the 
check. He talked me into letting him take the car. After about a week of bs I 
finally had to go get this car back. I was very lucky I got the car back and 
was able to later sell it. That could have turned out bad. Very stupid on my 
part. 

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> On Jan 11, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I’m going challenge that logic for a number of reasons.
> 
> While I understand what you’re suggesting and it sounds all fine and dandy, 
> you have no idea what this person has done to the car during their short 
> period of ownership.  You’re also essentially accepting their challenge of 
> the “fitness of merchantability” as well - in other words, you’re alluding 
> that there may be some basis to their claims that the car is somehow 
> defective or been misrepresented.
> 
> I am assuming the car was sold as-is, with no warranty or guarantee.  If in 
> fact, that is the case, any duress on the part of the buyer is theirs and 
> theirs only.
> 
> Do understand that if I sold something and it had a defect that I wasn’t 
> aware of, and the buyer brought it to my attention in a relatively short 
> period of time, I would try to work something out to address the defect 
> (after verifying that it truly was a defect.)  If this is nothing more than a 
> veiled attempt at dealing with buyers remorse, which it sounds like it is, 
> too bad.
> 
> 
> 
> I once sold a 15” MacBook Pro on Craigslist.  The buyer came by with his son 
> and checked the MBP out in detail.  I spoke to them at length about their 
> intended use, as this was the last of the CoreDuo machines, NOT Core2Duo, 
> meaning it had reached end of life as far as OS upgrades.  I stated this 
> clearly in the ad, discussed it with them at great length, etc., going well 
> out of my way to make sure they understood the limitations of the laptop.  
> They assured me they "knew all about it" and that they had researched their 
> needs in detail, and this machine would be just fine.
> 
> The next day I get a text from the buyer that they’re coming over to return 
> the machine, as it is “no good”.  I call them and ask what is wrong.  After 
> five minutes of nonsensical carrying on about how the machine is “bad”, they 
> finally come out and say that the FireWire port is not working.  We had 
> checked it when they took delivery and it was functioning.
> 
> I told them to bring it by with whatever device they were using and if it was 
> indeed defective i would return their money as long as they returned 
> everything in the same condition it was sold in.
> 
> They came back a few hours later with an external FireWire hard drive and a 
> later model MacBook for reference.  We tested everything, and it turned out 
> that the FireWire port on their external hard drive was bad.  End of story.  
> They were not happy.
> 
> Got a text the next morning from the guy saying the MBP didn’t meet their 
> needs and they would be selling it. ???
> 
> That was the last time I ever sold something on CL from my house.  It was 
> scary.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Jan 11, 2015, at 5:01 PM, LarryT via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I think Max's suggestion is perfect.  But I think renting him a 300D for $50 
>> a day is too low.   Maybe $80 or $100?   It will either satisfy him and 
>> you'll get the car back or he'll stop bothering you...
>> 
>> LarryT
>> 91 300D (just turned 243K and just got a *perfect* oil analysis!)
>> 
>> 
>>> On 1/11/2015 8:40 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Sorry to hear that.  You could offer to buy it back, his purchase price
>>> minus $50 per day plus other fees and expenses.  There will be another
>>> buyer.
>>> 
>>> Max Dillon,
>>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] 300D

I’m going challenge that logic for a number of reasons.

While I understand what you’re suggesting and it sounds all fine and dandy, you 
have no idea what this person has done to the car during their short period of 
ownership.  You’re also essentially accepting their challenge of the “fitness 
of merchantability” as well - in other words, you’re alluding that there may be 
some basis to their claims that the car is somehow defective or been 
misrepresented.

I am assuming the car was sold as-is, with no warranty or guarantee.  If in 
fact, that is the case, any duress on the part of the buyer is theirs and 
theirs only.

Do understand that if I sold something and it had a defect that I wasn’t aware 
of, and the buyer brought it to my attention in a relatively short period of 
time, I would try to work something out to address the defect (after verifying 
that it truly was a defect.)  If this is nothing more than a veiled attempt at 
dealing with buyers remorse, which it sounds like it is, too bad.

I once sold a 15” MacBook Pro on Craigslist.  The buyer came by with his son 
and checked the MBP out in detail.  I spoke to them at length about their 
intended use, as this was the last of the CoreDuo machines, NOT Core2Duo, 
meaning it had reached end of life as far as OS upgrades.  I stated this 
clearly in the ad, discussed it with them at great length, etc., going well out 
of my way to make sure they understood the limitations of the laptop.  They 
assured me they "knew all about it" and that they had researched their needs in 
detail, and this machine would be just fine.

The next day I get a text from the buyer that they’re coming over to return the 
machine, as it is “no good”.  I call them and ask what is wrong.  After five 
minutes of nonsensical carrying on about how the machine is “bad”, they finally 
come out and say that the FireWire port is not working.  We had checked it when 
they took delivery and it was functioning.

I told them to bring it by with whatever device they were using and if it was 
indeed defective i would return their money as long as they returned everything 
in the same condition it was sold in.

They came back a few hours later with an external FireWire hard drive and a 
later model MacBook for reference.  We tested everything, and it turned out 
that the FireWire port on their external hard drive was bad.  End of story.  
They were not happy.

Got a text the next morning from the guy saying the MBP didn’t meet their needs 
and they would be selling it. ???

That was the last time I ever sold something on CL from my house.  It was scary.

Dan

> On Jan 11, 2015, at 5:01 PM, LarryT via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I think Max's suggestion is perfect.  But I think renting him a 300D for $50 
> a day is too low.   Maybe $80 or $100?   It will either satisfy him and 
> you'll get the car back or he'll stop bothering you...
> 
> LarryT
> 91 300D (just turned 243K and just got a *perfect* oil analysis!)
> 
> 
> On 1/11/2015 8:40 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> Sorry to hear that.  You could offer to buy it back, his purchase price
>> minus $50 per day plus other fees and expenses.  There will be another
>> buyer.
>> 
>> Max Dillon,
>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] 300D

2015-01-11 Thread LarryT via Mercedes

I think Max's suggestion is perfect.  But I think renting him a 300D for 
$50 a day is too low.   Maybe $80 or $100?   It will either satisfy him 
and you'll get the car back or he'll stop bothering you...


LarryT
91 300D (just turned 243K and just got a *perfect* oil analysis!)


On 1/11/2015 8:40 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Sorry to hear that.  You could offer to buy it back, his purchase price
minus $50 per day plus other fees and expenses.  There will be another
buyer.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] And Battery WAS: 300D

All of the above, they're right around the corner from me, when I bought the 
battery for the Jetta they were $25 cheaper than anybody else, they stand by 
their warranties and the product is good.
10F isn't cold, we were at -10F last week, thats kinda cold. I bet Mitch has 
been seeing -20F which is cold, anything less than that is really cold.
So no, 10F didn't kill your battery, the battery sucked and just happened to 
fail at 10F.
-Curt
  From: Andrew Strasfogel 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 

 Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 4:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] And Battery WAS: 300D

The best deal in terms of warranty or cheap price?  Or good product??

And BTW, 10 degrees in my neck of the woods is no warmer than 10 degrees in 
Curt-ville.

On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Yeah that battery isn't that old and it doesn't get that cold in Andrew-land...
My local Car Quest has (or used to, things are changing post Advance buyout) 
the best deal around here on batteries.
-Curt
      From: Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 To: Andrew Strasfogel ; Mercedes Discussion List 

 Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 11:10 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] And Battery WAS: 300D

andrew sez:
>The cold killed the 2011 Diehard battery in my 250K miles1983 300TD.  Had
>nothing to do with compression...  Installed the new battery and it fired
>right up in 20 degree weather without using the block heater

'Nother DieEasy bites the dust.  No surprise there.  For the same
money you could probably get an MB Battery from one of the Stealers
who offer great discounts to MBCA members.  Or for 50-75% you can
buy one from advance auto with the online discount.

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Re: [MBZ] And Battery WAS: 300D

The best deal in terms of warranty or cheap price?  Or good product??

And BTW, 10 degrees in my neck of the woods is no warmer than 10 degrees in
Curt-ville.

On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yeah that battery isn't that old and it doesn't get that cold in
> Andrew-land...
> My local Car Quest has (or used to, things are changing post Advance
> buyout) the best deal around here on batteries.
> -Curt
>   From: Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  To: Andrew Strasfogel ; Mercedes Discussion List <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 11:10 AM
>  Subject: [MBZ] And Battery WAS: 300D
>
> andrew sez:
> >The cold killed the 2011 Diehard battery in my 250K miles1983 300TD.  Had
> >nothing to do with compression...  Installed the new battery and it fired
> >right up in 20 degree weather without using the block heater
>
> 'Nother DieEasy bites the dust.  No surprise there.  For the same
> money you could probably get an MB Battery from one of the Stealers
> who offer great discounts to MBCA members.  Or for 50-75% you can
> buy one from advance auto with the online discount.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Everybody laugh at the idiot

Presumably theres a piece still in the cylinder although maybe it'd cut and 
that piece would end up back in there and would come out the next time around.
Either way its a nice idea... I need to take the tinwork off (air cooled engine 
and see if anything is leaking. If there are any signs of leaks on the top end 
it'll get a gasket set, it doesn't take that long...
-Curt
  From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 4:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Everybody laugh at the idiot
   
Your photo page says you can make a Christmas card out of that pic!

Could you heat it up some with a torch to get it soft enough to pull out 
or would that goober up everything anyway?

--R

On 1/11/15 3:52 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> As I said in my last message I finally yanked the engine that was stuck out 
> of my snowmobile. When I was pulling it the carb was dripping gas (after I'd 
> disconnected it) and I figured maybe it had a leaky seal and I was just 
> dealing with a crank full of gas. Then I got it in the garage and actually 
> looked into the exhaust...
> http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/Snowmobiles/8c27a116-2f75-4cb6-b363-32bf32814057_zpsacca4761.jpg
>
> I'd been using a piece of recoil rope to keep a piston from moving so the 
> engine wouldn't rotate when I was trying to remove the clutch. I guess part 
> of the rope got cut by the exhaust port and now its jammed in there good. I 
> can't even wiggle the engine either way. The only way I can think to get it 
> out is to take the jug off. I guess while I'm at it I'll throw a complete 
> gasket kit into it, it won't take that much extra time. I was going to do 
> crank seals anyway...
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Everybody laugh at the idiot

Your photo page says you can make a Christmas card out of that pic!

Could you heat it up some with a torch to get it soft enough to pull out
or would that goober up everything anyway?

--R

On 1/11/15 3:52 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

As I said in my last message I finally yanked the engine that was stuck out of
my snowmobile. When I was pulling it the carb was dripping gas (after I'd
disconnected it) and I figured maybe it had a leaky seal and I was just dealing
with a crank full of gas. Then I got it in the garage and actually looked into
the exhaust...
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/Snowmobiles/8c27a116-2f75-4cb6-b363-32bf32814057_zpsacca4761.jpg

I'd been using a piece of recoil rope to keep a piston from moving so the
engine wouldn't rotate when I was trying to remove the clutch. I guess part of
the rope got cut by the exhaust port and now its jammed in there good. I can't
even wiggle the engine either way. The only way I can think to get it out is to
take the jug off. I guess while I'm at it I'll throw a complete gasket kit into
it, it won't take that much extra time. I was going to do crank seals anyway...
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Its coooold out there

When I lived near Boston I wouldn't even really put on a coat, maybe a
light jacket or my work suit jacket, until it got down around freezing.
First Christmas in Houston it was like 75F and we were out in shorts and
tshirts, I asked my wife what the hell took us so long to get there, she
didn't know either. Now if it is below about 50 I am freezing, but I
love it hot and humid. When we moved to SC after Houston people would
complain about the heat and humidity, and I was like, what heat and
humidity? All relative I guess.

--R

On 1/11/15 3:47 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

I think there is some kind of physiological change that takes place. The first
couple weeks when it gets hot in spring time I'm absolutely miserable. In the
fall I freeze for a couple days. Today its a toasty 23F, I went out and yanked
the engine out of my snowmobile and didn't even feel chilled...
-Curt
From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes
To: Mercedes List
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Its cld out there

When I was back in the Midwest it seemed like there was nothing I could do to get warm most of the time. Extremities seemed affected the worst.

I wonder if there is some truth to the adage about your blood supposedly
thinning when you live in a warmer climate….

Dan

On Jan 11, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
wrote:

After moving from Boston to Houston thence here to SC I could never go back to
cold weather. This past week has been miserable and it really isn't even that
cold. I think I need to go to Costa Rica starting in about October and come
back in March or so.

--R

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[MBZ] OT: Everybody laugh at the idiot

As I said in my last message I finally yanked the engine that was stuck out of 
my snowmobile. When I was pulling it the carb was dripping gas (after I'd 
disconnected it) and I figured maybe it had a leaky seal and I was just dealing 
with a crank full of gas. Then I got it in the garage and actually looked into 
the exhaust...
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/Snowmobiles/8c27a116-2f75-4cb6-b363-32bf32814057_zpsacca4761.jpg

I'd been using a piece of recoil rope to keep a piston from moving so the 
engine wouldn't rotate when I was trying to remove the clutch. I guess part of 
the rope got cut by the exhaust port and now its jammed in there good. I can't 
even wiggle the engine either way. The only way I can think to get it out is to 
take the jug off. I guess while I'm at it I'll throw a complete gasket kit into 
it, it won't take that much extra time. I was going to do crank seals anyway...
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Its coooold out there

I think there is some kind of physiological change that takes place. The first 
couple weeks when it gets hot in spring time I'm absolutely miserable. In the 
fall I freeze for a couple days. Today its a toasty 23F, I went out and yanked 
the engine out of my snowmobile and didn't even feel chilled...
-Curt
  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes List  
 Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 12:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Its cld out there

When I was back in the Midwest it seemed like there was nothing I could do to 
get warm most of the time.  Extremities seemed affected the worst.

I wonder if there is some truth to the adage about your blood supposedly 
thinning when you live in a warmer climate….

Dan

> On Jan 11, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> After moving from Boston to Houston thence here to SC I could never go back 
> to cold weather.  This past week has been miserable and it really isn't even 
> that cold.  I think I need to go to Costa Rica starting in about October and 
> come back in March or so.
> 
> --R
> 

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Re: [MBZ] And Battery WAS: 300D

Yeah that battery isn't that old and it doesn't get that cold in Andrew-land...
My local Car Quest has (or used to, things are changing post Advance buyout) 
the best deal around here on batteries.
-Curt
  From: Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 To: Andrew Strasfogel ; Mercedes Discussion List 

 Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 11:10 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] And Battery WAS: 300D

andrew sez:
>The cold killed the 2011 Diehard battery in my 250K miles1983 300TD.  Had
>nothing to do with compression...  Installed the new battery and it fired
>right up in 20 degree weather without using the block heater

'Nother DieEasy bites the dust.  No surprise there.  For the same 
money you could probably get an MB Battery from one of the Stealers 
who offer great discounts to MBCA members.  Or for 50-75% you can 
buy one from advance auto with the online discount.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Its coooold out there

When I was back in the Midwest it seemed like there was nothing I could do to 
get warm most of the time.  Extremities seemed affected the worst.

I wonder if there is some truth to the adage about your blood supposedly 
thinning when you live in a warmer climate….

Dan

> On Jan 11, 2015, at 12:02 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> After moving from Boston to Houston thence here to SC I could never go back 
> to cold weather.  This past week has been miserable and it really isn't even 
> that cold.  I think I need to go to Costa Rica starting in about October and 
> come back in March or so.
> 
> --R
> 

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Re: [MBZ] 300D

That would probably incite someone like this to react negatively.  No need to 
goad them.

I’m convinced in a situation like this the best thing to do is to just express 
that you’re sorry if they are unhappy, point out that they had the opportunity 
to inspect the vehicle and chose to buy it as-is, where is.  To do anything 
else is just a poke in the eye, so to speak.

When I sold my Yamaha Virago to a guy who had never ridden before, I purposely 
wrote the bill of sale up stating that he had not ridden it nor had he 
requested a PPI of any sort, which I offered to do by taking the bike to a 
mechanic of his choice on my own time prior to the sale.

A few days after I delivered it and collected payment, he sent me a nasty email 
stating that the bike needed work I hadn’t described and that he wanted me to 
pay for it.  I politely pointed out the fact that it was sold as-is and he 
accepted those terms along with not having it inspected prior to the sale.  
Never heard a peep out of him after that.

He was an attorney, too.

Dan

> On Jan 11, 2015, at 11:59 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You might want to offer him 90% of what he paid you to take it back, the 10% 
> will be his tuition in the school of old Benz life.  Then sell it again.
> 
> --R
> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] SOT (somewhat OT): TOyota share its patents.

It will cause the final global warming event when the earth catches fire 
and the whole atmosphere except the nitrogen turns to water, and it will 
be hotter then.  Or the earth will float away because hydrogen is 
lighter than air, kinda like a dirigible.


--R


On 1/10/15 11:47 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

I vaguely recall some mention some years ago that a much-increased
free-release of hydrogen (from much increased usage) would do something
harmful to the environment. Ozone layer? I forget ...


Craig



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Its coooold out there

After moving from Boston to Houston thence here to SC I could never go 
back to cold weather.  This past week has been miserable and it really 
isn't even that cold.  I think I need to go to Costa Rica starting in 
about October and come back in March or so.


--R


On 1/10/15 11:41 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Sat, 10 Jan 2015 19:30:36 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:


I also used to be acclimated to that climate, my first 23 years on
earth I lived in north-central Wisconsin, in the country about 8 miles
from the nearest town (Ogema, which I believe is a Chippewa Indian
name).

Ten years ago, I took a job here in Charleston repairing commercial
(flat) roofs, and by the end of that summer I was acclimated to South
Carolina.

It's possible to re-acclimate to the cold after having been acclimated to
the hot. I went from where Pasadena, CA in the summer at 85 deg.F. was
cold to the Black Forest area north of Colorado Springs and thought 18
deg.F. was a good temperature.

I am about to do that again, having worked on our pickup in the sun in
Austin, TX when it was 112 and now preparing to move to northern Indiana.



Fortunately that job was temporary, filler between leaving active duty
and finding something permanent which required an engineering degree.

So did you find something? Who, what, when, where, why, and how?  :-)


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 300D

You might want to offer him 90% of what he paid you to take it back, the 
10% will be his tuition in the school of old Benz life.  Then sell it again.


--R


On 1/11/15 8:33 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:

So the guy that bought my 300D seems to have a bad case of buyers remorse
and unrealistic expectations.

I should have known, when he started asking questions after we made an
agreement.  I actually thought about calling it off, but I decided not to
since he saw the car in person, drove it, and had mailed a deposit.

Anyway, he's claiming that it starts poorly in cold weather and has low
compression... as low as 200psi warm.

I think I started him on his road to suspicion when I explained to him that
the car has a block heater. I told him I've never used it, but if he has
the time and the temperatures are below 20, its a good idea to use it as
its much easier on the engine when starting.  I explained this in a "thats
what its there for" way, but I think he interpreted it as "theres a problem
and this is the bandaid"

I always let these cars glow about 5 seconds after the light goes off,
press the accelerator down a bit like it says in the manual, and crank.
This car always started easily, and ran smoothly immediately.  One of the
better ones I've had, actually.  Conventional oil, 15F... it doesn't get
much better with these cars.

I'm at a loss.

I can deal with the guy having issues inside his own head, but when it
comes down to suggesting I've misrepresented the car, I take great offense.

Jaime





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Re: [MBZ] OT: Heat Pump Defrost Setting

How do I know if my 3-4 year old rheem has smart defrosting? I suspect it does 
because I think I have only noticed it go into defrost maybe 1 time.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 11, 2015, at 9:38 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> There is no single good setting. If you're home all the time, set it for 
> maximum interval, get a reset button from an old computer and plug it onto 
> the 'defrost test' terminals on the defrost control board. If it ices up, go 
> outside and push the button.
> 
> I think my Goodman came from the factory at 30 mintues, as usual the choices 
> were 30 (waste of energy), 60, and 90. I set it at 90, but still had several 
> unnecessary defrosts a day in most weather, and if it was 34° and foggy 
> outside it got horribly iced up, looked like a wedding cake.
> 
> For me, the only acceptable solution was a demand defrost board.
> A HVAC pro who upgraded his personal system told me I needed a Nordyne / 
> Partner's Choice 917469 board. I bought one on the net for about $75 and 
> found out it didn't come with temperature sensors. Furthermore, neither my 
> eBay seller nor the local Nordyne distributor had the sensors. I had my local 
> family owned (my dad's cousin, probably should have gone to him in the first 
> place) HVAC shop order it, and two weeks later I was in business. Had to 
> drill a new mounting screw hole because the Nordyne board was not exactly the 
> same size as the board Goodman used. A little experimentation with 
> positioning the coil temp sensor and I now have a smart heat pump that 
> defrosts when it needs to defrost, or defrosts every 385 minutes if no 
> defrost is needed (something about helping to return oil to the compressor).
> 
> You can get Rheem boards, complete with sensors, for $40-50, but Rheem 
> reversing valves are normally cooling, you apply power to engage heating 
> mode, where most every other valve is normally heating and you apply power to 
> shift it into cooling mode. Therefore you have to do some rewiring to make a 
> Rheem board work on a Payne.
> This forum thread tells you how:
> http://www.diychatroom.com/f17/retrofit-demand-defrost-goodman-clpt42-129571/
> http://www.diychatroom.com/f17/retrofit-demand-defrost-goodman-clpt42-129571/index3/#post1119213
> 
> http://www.comfortgurus.com/en/protech-hvac-service-parts/95966-rhe-47-102685-86.html?search_query=47-102685-85&results=4
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Re: [MBZ] 300D

2015-01-11 Thread Robert Koziak via Mercedes

Jamie,


  A few weeks ago I finally sold the 1983 300D w/220K I had on Craig's List for 
over 4 weeks.  This was the car a friend of yours looked at but decided not to 
pursue.  I had very few inquiries until finally a current 1983 300D owner 
called.  He came to look at the car and we spent two hours discussing common 
issues we encountered with our cars and how we fixed them.  


Every current issue/problem I mentioned his reply was "no big deal".  He paid a 
fair price and was such a pleasure to deal with that I threw in several hundred 
dollars worth of parts I accumulated in over 20 years of ownership.  


My point being,.. I am glad I found a person who appreciated the merits 
of the older Mercedes Benz diesels.  Your honesty and integrity wasn't 
appreciated but don't feel bad you just found the wrong buyer.


Bob




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From: Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
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Sent: Sun, Jan 11, 2015 8:33 am
Subject: [MBZ] 300D


So the guy that bought my 300D seems to have a bad case of buyers remorse
and unrealistic expectations.

I should have known, when he started asking questions after we made an
agreement.  I actually thought about calling it off, but I decided not to
since he saw the car in person, drove it, and had mailed a deposit.

Anyway, he's claiming that it starts poorly in cold weather and has low
compression... as low as 200psi warm.

I think I started him on his road to suspicion when I explained to him that
the car has a block heater. I told him I've never used it, but if he has
the time and the temperatures are below 20, its a good idea to use it as
its much easier on the engine when starting.  I explained this in a "thats
what its there for" way, but I think he interpreted it as "theres a problem
and this is the bandaid"

I always let these cars glow about 5 seconds after the light goes off,
press the accelerator down a bit like it says in the manual, and crank.
This car always started easily, and ran smoothly immediately.  One of the
better ones I've had, actually.  Conventional oil, 15F... it doesn't get
much better with these cars.

I'm at a loss.

I can deal with the guy having issues inside his own head, but when it
comes down to suggesting I've misrepresented the car, I take great offense.

Jaime


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[MBZ] And Battery WAS: 300D

2015-01-11 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes


andrew sez:

The cold killed the 2011 Diehard battery in my 250K miles1983 300TD.  Had
nothing to do with compression...  Installed the new battery and it fired
right up in 20 degree weather without using the block heater


'Nother DieEasy bites the dust.   No surprise there.   For the same 
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who offer great discounts to MBCA members.   Or for 50-75% you can 
buy one from advance auto with the online discount.


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Re: [MBZ] 300D

The cold killed the 2011 Diehard battery in my 250K miles1983 300TD.  Had
nothing to do with compression...  Installed the new battery and it fired
right up in 20 degree weather without using the block heater

On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It's really not Jaime's problem what the guy does with it after he buys
> it. I am sure he would have sold it to one of us if we had the money. We
> were all aware it was for sale long before this guy bought it.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 11, 2015, at 9:10 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Because the new owner doesn't appreciate the car, and will abuse for a
> few
> > years, never adjust the valves, and in a few winters it won't start, and
> it
> > will go to the junk yard and be crushed.
> >
> > Jaime should have sold it to one of us!
> >
> > Max Dillon,
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > On Jan 11, 2015 9:28 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Why should he do that? A deal is a deal. If the guy was worried he
> should
> > have paid the money to have a ppi done.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jan 11, 2015, at 7:40 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Sorry to hear that.  You could offer to buy it back, his purchase price
> >>> minus $50 per day plus other fees and expenses.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Heat Pump Defrost Setting

2015-01-11 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

There is no single good setting. If you're home all the time, set it for maximum
interval, get a reset button from an old computer and plug it onto the 'defrost
test' terminals on the defrost control board. If it ices up, go outside and push
the button.

I think my Goodman came from the factory at 30 mintues, as usual the choices
were 30 (waste of energy), 60, and 90. I set it at 90, but still had several
unnecessary defrosts a day in most weather, and if it was 34° and foggy outside
it got horribly iced up, looked like a wedding cake.

For me, the only acceptable solution was a demand defrost board.
A HVAC pro who upgraded his personal system told me I needed a Nordyne /
Partner's Choice 917469 board. I bought one on the net for about $75 and found
out it didn't come with temperature sensors. Furthermore, neither my eBay seller
nor the local Nordyne distributor had the sensors. I had my local family owned
(my dad's cousin, probably should have gone to him in the first place) HVAC shop
order it, and two weeks later I was in business. Had to drill a new mounting
screw hole because the Nordyne board was not exactly the same size as the board
Goodman used. A little experimentation with positioning the coil temp sensor and
I now have a smart heat pump that defrosts when it needs to defrost, or defrosts
every 385 minutes if no defrost is needed (something about helping to return oil
to the compressor).

You can get Rheem boards, complete with sensors, for $40-50, but Rheem reversing
valves are normally cooling, you apply power to engage heating mode, where most
every other valve is normally heating and you apply power to shift it into
cooling mode. Therefore you have to do some rewiring to make a Rheem board work
on a Payne.

This forum thread tells you how:
http://www.diychatroom.com/f17/retrofit-demand-defrost-goodman-clpt42-129571/
http://www.diychatroom.com/f17/retrofit-demand-defrost-goodman-clpt42-129571/index3/#post1119213

http://www.comfortgurus.com/en/protech-hvac-service-parts/95966-rhe-47-102685-86.html?search_query=47-102685-85&results=4

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Its coooold out there

Attaboy for what?  I lost track.

On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 10:37 AM, WILTON via Mercedes  wrote:

> 'Nother ATTABOY!
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: "Mercedes" 
> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 9:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Its cld out there
>
>
>  In the fall of 2004, I found employment with one of the big defense
>> contractors here in Charleston. My wife gets credit for this, it was a
>> friend of hers who got me the introduction and interview I needed. They
>> paid me only slightly better than the roofing job (I was a very poor
>> negotiator) but I worked in an air-conditioned lab and had access to
>> decent
>> health insurance, plus I was side-by-side with the government employees.
>> The job was "project management" which meant pestering the guys who really
>> did the work for information, and turning that into reports and
>> presentations for management, in whatever was the management philosophy
>> flavor-of-the-year.
>>
>> My goal was to become one of those government employees.  First project
>> turned out to be a dry hole, employment-wise, second one worked out.  Now
>> I
>> can actually influence how some of your taxpayer money gets spent, doing
>> my
>> best to make sure it is spent well.
>>
>> Max Dillon,
>> Charleston SC
>>
>> On Jan 10, 2015 11:41 PM, "Craig via Mercedes" 
>> wrote:
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>>>
>>>
>>> So did you find something? Who, what, when, where, why, and how?  :-)
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] 300D

It's really not Jaime's problem what the guy does with it after he buys it. I 
am sure he would have sold it to one of us if we had the money. We were all 
aware it was for sale long before this guy bought it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 11, 2015, at 9:10 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Because the new owner doesn't appreciate the car, and will abuse for a few
> years, never adjust the valves, and in a few winters it won't start, and it
> will go to the junk yard and be crushed.
> 
> Jaime should have sold it to one of us!
> 
> Max Dillon,
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Jan 11, 2015 9:28 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Why should he do that? A deal is a deal. If the guy was worried he should
> have paid the money to have a ppi done.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 11, 2015, at 7:40 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sorry to hear that.  You could offer to buy it back, his purchase price
>>> minus $50 per day plus other fees and expenses.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Its coooold out there

2015-01-11 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

'Nother ATTABOY!

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes" 
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Its cld out there

In the fall of 2004, I found employment with one of the big defense
contractors here in Charleston. My wife gets credit for this, it was a
friend of hers who got me the introduction and interview I needed. They
paid me only slightly better than the roofing job (I was a very poor
negotiator) but I worked in an air-conditioned lab and had access to 
decent

health insurance, plus I was side-by-side with the government employees.
The job was "project management" which meant pestering the guys who really
did the work for information, and turning that into reports and
presentations for management, in whatever was the management philosophy
flavor-of-the-year.

My goal was to become one of those government employees.  First project
turned out to be a dry hole, employment-wise, second one worked out.  Now 
I
can actually influence how some of your taxpayer money gets spent, doing 
my

best to make sure it is spent well.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC

On Jan 10, 2015 11:41 PM, "Craig via Mercedes" 
wrote:

So did you find something? Who, what, when, where, why, and how?  :-)

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 300D

2015-01-11 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

Yep, that hurts.  The thing that has always hurt me the most is to be 
falsely accused or suspected.


The guy evidently has never had a Diesel before and does not understand that 
driving one takes a slghtly different set of procedures from those he may 
have "grown up" using.  He's probably heard many tales about how "fantastic" 
MB's are and developed unreasonable expectations - expects anything with the 
three-pointed star on the hood to always be and perform perfectly - even a 
30+-year-old one.  A pity.  With a slightly different attitude, he could 
probably enjoy the car for many years.


'Spain to 'im that you've done the best you could to fully disclose and 
represent Diesels in general and this one in particular.  The deal seems 
solid "as is," but if it'll help YOU feel better about the situation, offer 
to buy it back.


There are plenty of other buyers for a car like that.  Increase the price, 
and sell it to somebody else.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes" 

To: "mercedes Mailing List" 
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 8:33 AM
Subject: [MBZ] 300D



So the guy that bought my 300D seems to have a bad case of buyers remorse
and unrealistic expectations.

I should have known, when he started asking questions after we made an
agreement.  I actually thought about calling it off, but I decided not to
since he saw the car in person, drove it, and had mailed a deposit.

Anyway, he's claiming that it starts poorly in cold weather and has low
compression... as low as 200psi warm.

I think I started him on his road to suspicion when I explained to him 
that

the car has a block heater. I told him I've never used it, but if he has
the time and the temperatures are below 20, its a good idea to use it as
its much easier on the engine when starting.  I explained this in a "thats
what its there for" way, but I think he interpreted it as "theres a 
problem

and this is the bandaid"

I always let these cars glow about 5 seconds after the light goes off,
press the accelerator down a bit like it says in the manual, and crank.
This car always started easily, and ran smoothly immediately.  One of the
better ones I've had, actually.  Conventional oil, 15F... it doesn't get
much better with these cars.

I'm at a loss.

I can deal with the guy having issues inside his own head, but when it
comes down to suggesting I've misrepresented the car, I take great 
offense.


Jaime


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Re: [MBZ] 300D

Because the new owner doesn't appreciate the car, and will abuse for a few
years, never adjust the valves, and in a few winters it won't start, and it
will go to the junk yard and be crushed.

Jaime should have sold it to one of us!

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC

On Jan 11, 2015 9:28 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> Why should he do that? A deal is a deal. If the guy was worried he should
have paid the money to have a ppi done.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 11, 2015, at 7:40 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sorry to hear that.  You could offer to buy it back, his purchase price
> > minus $50 per day plus other fees and expenses.
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Re: [MBZ] 300D

2015-01-11 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes

Yes, in my opinion, Jaime should politely tell the buyer to pound sand. Knowing 
Jaime, and having seen the description and photos, the car was a jewel.

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> On Jan 11, 2015, at 9:32 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Exactly.  Whenever I have sold a car I always suggest the buyer get a PPI.  
> That’s my “out” for situations like this.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Jan 11, 2015, at 9:28 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Why should he do that? A deal is a deal. If the guy was worried he should 
>> have paid the money to have a ppi done.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] 300D

Exactly.  Whenever I have sold a car I always suggest the buyer get a PPI.  
That’s my “out” for situations like this.

Dan

> On Jan 11, 2015, at 9:28 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Why should he do that? A deal is a deal. If the guy was worried he should 
> have paid the money to have a ppi done.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Its coooold out there

Do you suppose they have to book 2 seats each?
-Curt
  From: Addison Thompson via Mercedes 
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 9:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Its cld out there

Any idea what flight the deer were booked on? Probably heading south on 
holiday???  
Addison

On Jan 11, 2015, at 4:00 AM, Curt wrote:
From: Curt Raymond 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Its cld out there
Date: January 10, 2015 8:19:19 PM PST

I saw deer heading from Silver Spring to the DC airport back in early December.
-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] 300D

Why should he do that? A deal is a deal. If the guy was worried he should have 
paid the money to have a ppi done.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 11, 2015, at 7:40 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sorry to hear that.  You could offer to buy it back, his purchase price
> minus $50 per day plus other fees and expenses.  There will be another
> buyer.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Its coooold out there

In the fall of 2004, I found employment with one of the big defense
contractors here in Charleston. My wife gets credit for this, it was a
friend of hers who got me the introduction and interview I needed. They
paid me only slightly better than the roofing job (I was a very poor
negotiator) but I worked in an air-conditioned lab and had access to decent
health insurance, plus I was side-by-side with the government employees.
The job was "project management" which meant pestering the guys who really
did the work for information, and turning that into reports and
presentations for management, in whatever was the management philosophy
flavor-of-the-year.

My goal was to become one of those government employees.  First project
turned out to be a dry hole, employment-wise, second one worked out.  Now I
can actually influence how some of your taxpayer money gets spent, doing my
best to make sure it is spent well.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Its coooold out there

2015-01-11 Thread Addison Thompson via Mercedes

Any idea what flight the deer were booked on? Probably heading south on 
holiday???  
Addison

On Jan 11, 2015, at 4:00 AM, Curt wrote:
From: Curt Raymond 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Its cld out there
Date: January 10, 2015 8:19:19 PM PST

I saw deer heading from Silver Spring to the DC airport back in early December.
-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] 300D

2015-01-11 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

More than likely, his old lady is behind the scenes, telling him to get his 
money back. Anytime more than $1000 is involved, you'd best have SWMBO informed 
of your intentions of parting with cash. He bought the car without informing 
his significant other of his intentions, or the cost. That is my guess. Don't 
take it personally. He screwed up. 

That is my speculation.  

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] 300D

I've had a couple of these in the past, and in my case as long as there was no 
defect, I just told them I was sorry they were disappointed and that the car 
was sold as-is and represented as best as it could possibly be to the best of 
my knowledge.

I understand your concerns, but sometimes you just have to cut people off or 
they'll bug you for every little thing they come across.  This is especially 
important if they chose not to do a PPI.

Dan

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> On Jan 11, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Jaime Kopchinski  wrote:
> 
> Yeah, I have a bill of sale stating as is.  I'm protected, but its still not 
> very nice to get emails suggesting that I was trying to misrepresent the car.
> 
> At least we did it outside of eBay, so I don't have to worry about them 
> getting involved.
> 
> Jaime
> 
>> On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Did you complete the transaction? If so, and I assume you had a bill of sale 
>> stating it was sold "as-is", I would simply fall back on the selling 
>> description and leave it at that.
>> 
>> Sounds like you're getting into semantics, a battle you'll never win.
>> 
>> Definitely sounds like a case of buyer's remorse.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> > On Jan 11, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > So the guy that bought my 300D seems to have a bad case of buyers remorse
>> > and unrealistic expectations.
>> >
>> > I should have known, when he started asking questions after we made an
>> > agreement.  I actually thought about calling it off, but I decided not to
>> > since he saw the car in person, drove it, and had mailed a deposit.
>> >
>> > Anyway, he's claiming that it starts poorly in cold weather and has low
>> > compression... as low as 200psi warm.
>> >
>> > I think I started him on his road to suspicion when I explained to him that
>> > the car has a block heater. I told him I've never used it, but if he has
>> > the time and the temperatures are below 20, its a good idea to use it as
>> > its much easier on the engine when starting.  I explained this in a "thats
>> > what its there for" way, but I think he interpreted it as "theres a problem
>> > and this is the bandaid"
>> >
>> > I always let these cars glow about 5 seconds after the light goes off,
>> > press the accelerator down a bit like it says in the manual, and crank.
>> > This car always started easily, and ran smoothly immediately.  One of the
>> > better ones I've had, actually.  Conventional oil, 15F... it doesn't get
>> > much better with these cars.
>> >
>> > I'm at a loss.
>> >
>> > I can deal with the guy having issues inside his own head, but when it
>> > comes down to suggesting I've misrepresented the car, I take great offense.
>> >
>> > Jaime
>> >
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] 300D

2015-01-11 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes

The guy is a clown. Does he realize how cold it's been during the past week? He 
bought an old generation diesel and therefore should expect difficult or 
impossible  starts in extreme cold. Where did he get the 200 psi compression 
reading? 

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> On Jan 11, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So the guy that bought my 300D seems to have a bad case of buyers remorse
> and unrealistic expectations.
> 
> I should have known, when he started asking questions after we made an
> agreement.  I actually thought about calling it off, but I decided not to
> since he saw the car in person, drove it, and had mailed a deposit.
> 
> Anyway, he's claiming that it starts poorly in cold weather and has low
> compression... as low as 200psi warm.
> 
> I think I started him on his road to suspicion when I explained to him that
> the car has a block heater. I told him I've never used it, but if he has
> the time and the temperatures are below 20, its a good idea to use it as
> its much easier on the engine when starting.  I explained this in a "thats
> what its there for" way, but I think he interpreted it as "theres a problem
> and this is the bandaid"
> 
> I always let these cars glow about 5 seconds after the light goes off,
> press the accelerator down a bit like it says in the manual, and crank.
> This car always started easily, and ran smoothly immediately.  One of the
> better ones I've had, actually.  Conventional oil, 15F... it doesn't get
> much better with these cars.
> 
> I'm at a loss.
> 
> I can deal with the guy having issues inside his own head, but when it
> comes down to suggesting I've misrepresented the car, I take great offense.
> 
> Jaime
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 300D

2015-01-11 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes

Yeah, I have a bill of sale stating as is.  I'm protected, but its still
not very nice to get emails suggesting that I was trying to misrepresent
the car.

At least we did it outside of eBay, so I don't have to worry about them
getting involved.

Jaime

On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Did you complete the transaction? If so, and I assume you had a bill of
> sale stating it was sold "as-is", I would simply fall back on the selling
> description and leave it at that.
>
> Sounds like you're getting into semantics, a battle you'll never win.
>
> Definitely sounds like a case of buyer's remorse.
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jan 11, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > So the guy that bought my 300D seems to have a bad case of buyers remorse
> > and unrealistic expectations.
> >
> > I should have known, when he started asking questions after we made an
> > agreement.  I actually thought about calling it off, but I decided not to
> > since he saw the car in person, drove it, and had mailed a deposit.
> >
> > Anyway, he's claiming that it starts poorly in cold weather and has low
> > compression... as low as 200psi warm.
> >
> > I think I started him on his road to suspicion when I explained to him
> that
> > the car has a block heater. I told him I've never used it, but if he has
> > the time and the temperatures are below 20, its a good idea to use it as
> > its much easier on the engine when starting.  I explained this in a
> "thats
> > what its there for" way, but I think he interpreted it as "theres a
> problem
> > and this is the bandaid"
> >
> > I always let these cars glow about 5 seconds after the light goes off,
> > press the accelerator down a bit like it says in the manual, and crank.
> > This car always started easily, and ran smoothly immediately.  One of the
> > better ones I've had, actually.  Conventional oil, 15F... it doesn't get
> > much better with these cars.
> >
> > I'm at a loss.
> >
> > I can deal with the guy having issues inside his own head, but when it
> > comes down to suggesting I've misrepresented the car, I take great
> offense.
> >
> > Jaime
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 300D

Sorry to hear that.  You could offer to buy it back, his purchase price
minus $50 per day plus other fees and expenses.  There will be another
buyer.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] 300D