Re: [MBZ] OT Words to the wise, or not for the wise

2015-04-01 Thread rogerhga
Wilton, 
   I hear Paris is a great place for international affairs :-)  Hope 
he does really good there before returning.  I wonder if we can change the 
subject of this discussion IF it's going to continue.  It seems we passed the 
wise point several digests ago. 
Best Wishes from a store owner who wants to run his store and NOT let the 
government run it since they pay none of its expenses, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com  (new) 
www.southernnightsantiques.com  (antique) 

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Re: [MBZ] The Search Continues....

2015-04-01 Thread Curly McLain

engine is cleaned but then not properly treated with a preservative
coating as called for in the maintenance manual.

-Max


My favorite preservative is diesel fuel and motor oil

(only half kidding)

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Re: [MBZ] The Search Continues....

2015-04-01 Thread Meade Dillon
I think that concrete will pass a fair amount of moisture, which is going
to contribute to corrosion in general.

I find that the aluminum engine parts on my MB's corrode, and they are not
exposed to salted winter roads or even salt air.  My bet is that happens
when an engine is cleaned but then not properly treated with a preservative
coating as called for in the maintenance manual.

-Max

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote:

 Craig wrote:

  Aluminum engine parts being corroded comes from winter driving on
 salted roads, not from being parked on a concrete slab.


 Parking on grass and letting the snow pile up around them is far worse
 than parking on concrete with air under them. Grass is probably worse than
 letting show pile up around the car on concrete too.

 Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] The Search Continues....

2015-04-01 Thread Dan Penoff
Any number of places.

I'll usually look at Kelley, NADA and Edmunds to start. After a few weeks of 
watching the market you can get a pretty good idea of the value ranges based on 
how people are advertising, too.

Right now I would say that around here a really nice W140 with low miles is 
going to be in the low $6000 range, possibly more depending on the car's 
history and ownership.  Decent examples with higher mileage, say in the 
130k-160k range are around $3500-$4500.

If you look at the national pricing services like Kelley, they'll be skewed 
towards the retail market, meaning they'll be far lower than what the private 
market is selling at for trade values and way high for retail. This is mainly 
due to the way they collect data (from dealers and auctions) so private sales 
aren't properly represented.

They're handy in negotiations on private sales as their prices are low compared 
to the market. If the seller tries to use them as a data point, it's easy to 
dispel, as they represent retail prices, not private sales. That argument won't 
hold water when you point out that retail sellers have far more overhead and as 
a result will ask a much higher price than most private sales.

Dan

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 On Apr 1, 2015, at 12:07 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com 
 arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
 
 Where do you get the value ranges?
 Thanks,
 Gerry
 
 All things being equal, if I had a choice of a 1996 S320 with 103k, three 
 owner, well serviced and a 1998 S420 with 61k, one owner, dealer serviced, 
 I'll buy the S420.
 They're both in the high $5k value range, and both are asking $6500 or more.
 Dan
 
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Re: [MBZ] The Search Continues....

2015-04-01 Thread Mitch Haley

Craig wrote:


Aluminum engine parts being corroded comes from winter driving on
salted roads, not from being parked on a concrete slab.


Parking on grass and letting the snow pile up around them is far worse than 
parking on concrete with air under them. Grass is probably worse than letting 
show pile up around the car on concrete too.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] The Search Continues....

2015-04-01 Thread Dan Penoff
That it may, but I have direct experience with cars being stored in an unheated 
area in temperate climates that had corrosion on aluminum parts due to 
condensation from the concrete.  None of them were driven on roads when salt 
was present.

As the slab heats and cools along with the ambient humidity and temperature 
changes, moisture will condense on the exposed metal parts and cause them to 
corrode. That's why when I have stored cars over the winter in an unheated 
garage I always put down a moisture barrier (plastic sheeting) between the car 
and the floor/slab.

Dan

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 On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:12 AM, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote:
 
 Craig wrote:
 
 Aluminum engine parts being corroded comes from winter driving on
 salted roads, not from being parked on a concrete slab.
 
 Parking on grass and letting the snow pile up around them is far worse than 
 parking on concrete with air under them. Grass is probably worse than letting 
 show pile up around the car on concrete too.
 
 Mitch.
 
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[MBZ] Favorite Automotive Products Thread

2015-04-01 Thread Meade Dillon
Dieselvolk,

Better than an oil thread!  I'd like to get a conversation going about our
favorite automotive products.  I'll start off with a few of mine:

Boeshield T-9: a multipurpose product that cleans, protects, penetrates,
displaces moisture  more.  Created by Boeing, this is what should be used
instead of WD-40 when you want to both clean and lubricate. I use it as a
preservative coating on my sailboats outboard motor and other metals
exposed to outdoor living.  Really nice stuff.  Next time I clean a car
engine, I'm going to follow up with a T-9 coating to prevent corrosion.
Safe to spray on just about everything.

Sonax Wheel Cleaner Full Effect or Wheel Cleaner Plus: Wheel Cleaner
PLUS...for
fast and effective removal of stubborn brake dust and road grime. The
powerful wheel cleaner is 30% stronger and works much faster than SONAX
Wheel Cleaner Full Effect. PLUS sprays on clear and turns red almost
instantly as it begins to work. Because it is acid-free, Wheel Cleaner PLUS
is safe for use on all wheel types and will not damage or corrode wheel
bolts.  I haven't tried the latest formula yet, I've used up three bottles
of the Full Effect version.  This stuff does a really good job cleaning
your wheels.  I always spray it on, scrub it in a little with a brush, and
then rinse off after a few minutes.  My wheels only get this treatment
occasionally, I suspect that if used more frequently, you would not have to
scrub it in.

PB Blaster: Great stuff for loosening rusted hardware.  I know some of you
like to mix your own blend of acetone and ATF, I don't have time for that
and need something in a spray can, this stuff is readily available in the
stores I frequent, so this is what I use.

Wheelskins: genuine leather steering wheel covers.  Nice high quality
leather, look and feel great.  I've installed two, one in my '95 E300 and
one in our Infiniti I30.  A couple years later both are holding up just
fine.


-- 
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT Catholic schools to the wise, or not for the wise

2015-04-01 Thread Dan Penoff
I believe the Jesuits are the Roman Catholic equivalent of the Mossad. Quiet, 
unassuming, but not to be messed with, and when they are, retribution is quick, 
complete, and discreet.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Apr 1, 2015, at 9:44 AM, Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
 
 The papists are very good at one particular thing (and perhaps others of 
 which I am unaware) and that is educating the chirruns, and making them 
 behave while doing it.  The boy is the product of St. Mary's, Strake Jesuit, 
 Villanova, and now Georgetown, all soldiers of the faith, and it has served 
 him quite well.  The whole deal was a bit spendy but worth it.
 
 The girl was St. Mary's then public school for middle school (a magnet 
 school, but mixed with the regular rabble, who introduced her to the concept 
 of lewinskis behind the water fountain during class break, an educational 
 experience that came along with the general public school environment it 
 seems), then St. Agnes, then off to public kalledge.  All in all a less 
 satisfactory experience.
 
 One of the boy's best friends at Jesuit was a Sikh, wore the headwrap and 
 all, the jebbies were fairly easy on the mumbojumbo religious stuff if it 
 wasn't the child's thing, but did not waver in the least on the moral or 
 behavioral aspects of the religiosity.  I believe there were a few jewish 
 boys there too amongst some other heathens, so they accommodated everyone.  
 On the lacrosse field, when some of the dumbass goober boys from the Ft. Bend 
 (TX) team started in on the raghead (the Sikh boy) they soon learned what 
 teamwork meant when the Sikh's teammates went after the ball, and modified 
 their trash talk quite quickly after a few good checks. Sikhs are also very 
 calm yet effective in their evisceration of enemies, so he got to participate 
 too.  Jesus and the gurus working together for field peace.
 
 It was also an interesting experience that after hurricane Katrina, the New 
 Orleans Jesuit high school was shut down and everyone evacuated, and most all 
 decamped to Houston.  Strake Jesuit ended up running two shifts at the 
 school, the early shift being SJ and the second shift being NO Jesuit.  The 
 families/boys were all taken in by SJ families (we put our names on the list 
 but there were more offers than needed) and put up for 6 or 8 weeks until the 
 school got reopened.  There was never any fanfare about it, it just happened 
 and all went on about their business best as they could.
 
 --R
 
 
 
 The papists are very good at one particular thing (and perhaps others of 
 which I am unaware) and that is educating the chirruns, and making them 
 behave while doing it.  The boy is the product of St. Mary's, Strake Jesuit, 
 Villanova, and now Georgetown, all soldiers of the faith, and it has served 
 him quite well.  The whole deal was a bit spendy but worth it.
 
 The girl was St. Mary's then public school for middle school (a magnet 
 school, but mixed with the regular rabble, who introduced her to the concept 
 of lewinskis behind the water fountain during class break, an educational 
 experience that came along with the general public school environment it 
 seems), then St. Agnes, then off to public kalledge.  All in all a less 
 satisfactory experience.
 
 One of the boy's best friends at Jesuit was a Sikh, wore the headwrap and 
 all, the jebbies were fairly easy on the mumbojumbo religious stuff if it 
 wasn't the child's thing, but did not waver in the least on the moral or 
 behavioral aspects of the religiosity.  I believe there were a few jewish 
 boys there too amongst some other heathens, so they accommodated everyone.  
 On the lacrosse field, when some of the dumbass goober boys from the Ft. Bend 
 (TX) team started in on the raghead (the Sikh boy) they soon learned what 
 teamwork meant when the Sikh's teammates went after the ball, and modified 
 their trash talk quite quickly after a few good checks. Sikhs are also very 
 calm yet effective in their evisceration of enemies, so he got to participate 
 too.  Jesus and the gurus working together for field peace.
 
 It was also an interesting experience that after hurricane Katrina, the New 
 Orleans Jesuit high school was shut down and everyone evacuated, and most all 
 decamped to Houston.  Strake Jesuit ended up running two shifts at the 
 school, the early shift being SJ and the second shift being NO Jesuit.  The 
 families/boys were all taken in by SJ families (we put our names on the list 
 but there were more offers than needed) and put up for 6 or 8 weeks until the 
 school got reopened.  There was never any fanfare about it, it just happened 
 and all went on about their business best as they could.
 
 --R
 
 
 
 On 3/31/15 10:49 PM, WILTON wrote:
 My straight-A-student #2 grandson is a fifth-grader and a token Protestant 
 at a fantastic Catholic school here in Goldsboro, NC, as was his older 
 brother, who graduated summa cum laude from UNC-CH 

Re: [MBZ] OT Catholic schools to the wise, or not for the wise

2015-04-01 Thread Rich Thomas
The papists are very good at one particular thing (and perhaps others of 
which I am unaware) and that is educating the chirruns, and making them 
behave while doing it.  The boy is the product of St. Mary's, Strake 
Jesuit, Villanova, and now Georgetown, all soldiers of the faith, and it 
has served him quite well.  The whole deal was a bit spendy but worth it.


The girl was St. Mary's then public school for middle school (a magnet 
school, but mixed with the regular rabble, who introduced her to the 
concept of lewinskis behind the water fountain during class break, an 
educational experience that came along with the general public school 
environment it seems), then St. Agnes, then off to public kalledge.  All 
in all a less satisfactory experience.


One of the boy's best friends at Jesuit was a Sikh, wore the headwrap 
and all, the jebbies were fairly easy on the mumbojumbo religious stuff 
if it wasn't the child's thing, but did not waver in the least on the 
moral or behavioral aspects of the religiosity.  I believe there were a 
few jewish boys there too amongst some other heathens, so they 
accommodated everyone.  On the lacrosse field, when some of the dumbass 
goober boys from the Ft. Bend (TX) team started in on the raghead (the 
Sikh boy) they soon learned what teamwork meant when the Sikh's 
teammates went after the ball, and modified their trash talk quite 
quickly after a few good checks. Sikhs are also very calm yet effective 
in their evisceration of enemies, so he got to participate too.  Jesus 
and the gurus working together for field peace.


It was also an interesting experience that after hurricane Katrina, the 
New Orleans Jesuit high school was shut down and everyone evacuated, and 
most all decamped to Houston.  Strake Jesuit ended up running two shifts 
at the school, the early shift being SJ and the second shift being NO 
Jesuit.  The families/boys were all taken in by SJ families (we put our 
names on the list but there were more offers than needed) and put up for 
6 or 8 weeks until the school got reopened.  There was never any fanfare 
about it, it just happened and all went on about their business best as 
they could.


--R



On 3/31/15 10:49 PM, WILTON wrote:
My straight-A-student #2 grandson is a fifth-grader and a token 
Protestant at a fantastic Catholic school here in Goldsboro, NC, as 
was his older brother, who graduated summa cum laude from UNC-CH 
coupla years ago and will be finishing a masters program in 
international affairs at Institute d'Etude Politique de Paris 
(Sciences Po) in coupla weeks.  The school has  been a very good 
influence on them in many ways.  ('Course their parents and SWMBO and 
I have been actively involved with them, also.)  If they choose to 
become Catholic, they have the blessings of their Southern Baptist 
parents/grandparents.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: clay redgh...@comcast.net
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Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Words to the wise, or not for the wise


My boys went to parish school.  Last years they attended, they held 
Holiday Concerts.  This Sunday is the beginning of Spring Break. 
There are religion classes and the padre goes about anointing the 
kids. Not all the kids are catholic...


clay 



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Re: [MBZ] OT Catholic schools to the wise, or not for the wise

2015-04-01 Thread Curly McLain
Back when I was a pup, I had the misfortune of being sent to the 
local horspital run by nunnie bunnies.  they mopped every day with 
disinfectant, and ran by the book  (Their book, not the good book) 
No one was not allowed to get up, even to use the toilet.  When they 
found out I had gotten out of the bed and went to look out the window 
at freedom, they tied me to the bed.   The philosophy was a lot 
different from now when they try to roll you out of the horspital 
bed, even if you are not ready.


(+) It was much more sanitary than todays horspitals, with their 
disease laden carpets


(-)  It bordered on inhumane treatment.



Concurrently, the local Katlik schools were infamous for the nunnie 
bunnies whacking kids with rulers or boards for any perceived 
infraction of their book.   Even though over 90% were kaltik kids, 
there were a LOT of kids turned protestant by the tactics in those 
schools, even if they never changed their religion.   (emphasis on 
protest)


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Re: [MBZ] SEL 'stank'

2015-04-01 Thread Jim Cathey

Yesterday the problematic SEL got a new 4-wire CIS temp sensor,
an MTC monovalve insert, and new valve cover gaskets to replace
the rocks that were on there.

The MTC insert looked identical to what came out, except that
the body was too fat to go through the coil!  I ended up swapping
the rubber-bearing thingy on the end to the old body.  The old
one was the worst I'd ever seen, the main diaphragm was hard, and
completely torn away from the insert.  The monovalve, at least,
seems to work well.  No real noticeable change from the temp
sensor, though I have my suspicions that it'll help some, and
I'm still smelling some burning oil.  (At least the gas smell
was fixed by the new EHA valve.)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT Catholic schools to the wise, or not for the wise

2015-04-01 Thread Dan Penoff
I am the youngest of three, and the only one who did not attend parochial 
school for grades K-8.

My failure to attend was due to the unwillingness of the parish refusing to 
discount tuition after two children were enrolled, much to the chagrin of my 
father.

Anyway, due to my attendance in the heathen public system, I had to attend 
catechism classes on Saturday mornings, cutting into my Warner Brothers cartoon 
watching significantly.  One of my best friends at the time, Joe, attended with 
me which was nice, as it made us kindred souls.

We were constantly getting in trouble for our rowdyism, which gave the rather 
elderly nuns a real run for their money. Finally, after who knows what Joe and 
I did one day, the nun locked us in the janitor's closet with the light off to 
settle us down.

As you might imagine, this was great fun for a couple of second grade boys.  
Unfortunately, our parents failed to agree with us when we told them about it.  
All I can recall is that my Dad went to the rectory and got ugly with the head 
priest about it, and I didn't have to go to catechism class after that. I did 
get through confirmation, which was the last big step at the time (I believe 
they do confirmation at a much later time in life now, which makes a lot more 
sense. At the time I didn't understand the significance of why I had to go 
through all this crap only to get slapped in the face by the archbishop.)

Dan, no longer a practicing Catholic - I got good at it!


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 On Apr 1, 2015, at 10:02 AM, Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Back when I was a pup, I had the misfortune of being sent to the local 
 horspital run by nunnie bunnies.  they mopped every day with disinfectant, 
 and ran by the book  (Their book, not the good book) No one was not allowed 
 to get up, even to use the toilet.  When they found out I had gotten out of 
 the bed and went to look out the window at freedom, they tied me to the bed.  
  The philosophy was a lot different from now when they try to roll you out of 
 the horspital bed, even if you are not ready.
 
 (+) It was much more sanitary than todays horspitals, with their disease 
 laden carpets
 
 (-)  It bordered on inhumane treatment.
 
 
 
 Concurrently, the local Katlik schools were infamous for the nunnie bunnies 
 whacking kids with rulers or boards for any perceived infraction of their 
 book.   Even though over 90% were kaltik kids, there were a LOT of kids 
 turned protestant by the tactics in those schools, even if they never changed 
 their religion.   (emphasis on protest)
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Catholic schools to the wise, or not for the wise

2015-04-01 Thread WILTON
Teachers at our local Katlik school, (St. Mary) are very good, efficient and 
thorough, but I haven't anything about their being harsh or overly strict. 
BTW, there are no nunnies there.  'Last one aged out several years ago.


Oh, BTW, I mentioned that it would be OK if the grandsons choose to become 
Catholic - even Methodist, if they want to.  ;)))


Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Catholic schools to the wise, or not for the wise


Back when I was a pup, I had the misfortune of being sent to the local 
horspital run by nunnie bunnies.  they mopped every day with disinfectant, 
and ran by the book  (Their book, not the good book) No one was not 
allowed to get up, even to use the toilet.  When they found out I had 
gotten out of the bed and went to look out the window at freedom, they 
tied me to the bed.   The philosophy was a lot different from now when 
they try to roll you out of the horspital bed, even if you are not ready.


(+) It was much more sanitary than todays horspitals, with their disease 
laden carpets


(-)  It bordered on inhumane treatment.



Concurrently, the local Katlik schools were infamous for the nunnie 
bunnies whacking kids with rulers or boards for any perceived infraction 
of their book.   Even though over 90% were kaltik kids, there were a LOT 
of kids turned protestant by the tactics in those schools, even if they 
never changed their religion.   (emphasis on protest)


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Re: [MBZ] OT Catholic schools to the wise, or not for the wise

2015-04-01 Thread WILTON

haven't HEARD anything about their being harsh, that is.

Wilt

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From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Catholic schools to the wise, or not for the wise


Teachers at our local Katlik school, (St. Mary) are very good, efficient 
and thorough, but I haven't anything about their being harsh or overly 
strict. BTW, there are no nunnies there.  'Last one aged out several 
years ago.


Oh, BTW, I mentioned that it would be OK if the grandsons choose to become 
Catholic - even Methodist, if they want to.  ;)))


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Catholic schools to the wise, or not for the wise


Back when I was a pup, I had the misfortune of being sent to the local 
horspital run by nunnie bunnies.  they mopped every day with 
disinfectant, and ran by the book  (Their book, not the good book) No 
one was not allowed to get up, even to use the toilet.  When they found 
out I had gotten out of the bed and went to look out the window at 
freedom, they tied me to the bed.   The philosophy was a lot different 
from now when they try to roll you out of the horspital bed, even if you 
are not ready.


(+) It was much more sanitary than todays horspitals, with their disease 
laden carpets


(-)  It bordered on inhumane treatment.



Concurrently, the local Katlik schools were infamous for the nunnie 
bunnies whacking kids with rulers or boards for any perceived infraction 
of their book.   Even though over 90% were kaltik kids, there were a 
LOT of kids turned protestant by the tactics in those schools, even if 
they never changed their religion.   (emphasis on protest)


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[MBZ] buymbparts

2015-04-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I am happy to report I have been in contact with Rusty and Gary and they are 
getting back together to relaunch Buyparts. More news to follow.

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Re: [MBZ] Favorite Automotive Products Thread

2015-04-01 Thread Greg Fiorentino
DeOxit!  It works.

Biodiesel B-100 as a parts cleaner.

Greg

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Dillon
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 4:44 AM
To: Mercedes
Subject: [MBZ] Favorite Automotive Products Thread

Dieselvolk,

Better than an oil thread!  I'd like to get a conversation going about our
favorite automotive products.  I'll start off with a few of mine:

Boeshield T-9: a multipurpose product that cleans, protects, penetrates,
displaces moisture  more.  Created by Boeing, this is what should be used
instead of WD-40 when you want to both clean and lubricate. I use it as a
preservative coating on my sailboats outboard motor and other metals exposed
to outdoor living.  Really nice stuff.  Next time I clean a car engine, I'm
going to follow up with a T-9 coating to prevent corrosion.
Safe to spray on just about everything.

Sonax Wheel Cleaner Full Effect or Wheel Cleaner Plus: Wheel Cleaner
PLUS...for fast and effective removal of stubborn brake dust and road grime.
The powerful wheel cleaner is 30% stronger and works much faster than SONAX
Wheel Cleaner Full Effect. PLUS sprays on clear and turns red almost
instantly as it begins to work. Because it is acid-free, Wheel Cleaner PLUS
is safe for use on all wheel types and will not damage or corrode wheel
bolts.  I haven't tried the latest formula yet, I've used up three bottles
of the Full Effect version.  This stuff does a really good job cleaning your
wheels.  I always spray it on, scrub it in a little with a brush, and then
rinse off after a few minutes.  My wheels only get this treatment
occasionally, I suspect that if used more frequently, you would not have to
scrub it in.

PB Blaster: Great stuff for loosening rusted hardware.  I know some of you
like to mix your own blend of acetone and ATF, I don't have time for that
and need something in a spray can, this stuff is readily available in the
stores I frequent, so this is what I use.

Wheelskins: genuine leather steering wheel covers.  Nice high quality
leather, look and feel great.  I've installed two, one in my '95 E300 and
one in our Infiniti I30.  A couple years later both are holding up just
fine.


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Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts

2015-04-01 Thread Dan Penoff
I think John Oliver said it best about April Fools pranks a few days ago: 

Don't be a dick

Dan


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Re: [MBZ] The Search Continues....

2015-04-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Which half?

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:57 AM, Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 engine is cleaned but then not properly treated with a preservative
 coating as called for in the maintenance manual.

 -Max


 My favorite preservative is diesel fuel and motor oil

 (only half kidding)


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[MBZ] OT: Pressure Washer Recommendations?

2015-04-01 Thread Greg Fiorentino
I need a new pressure washer for vehicles, decks, outdoor furniture, and the
driveway.  It does not need to be able to remove paint.  I was thinking of
the Sun Joe SPX3000 which can be had for less than $200 from Amazon. The
reviews are generally good, but there are quite a few negative ones.  I
would prefer not to have to deal with a gasoline powered unit and of course
want to spend as little as possible.  Any experiences you can share?

 

TIA,

 

Greg

 

 

 

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Re: [MBZ] SEL 'stank'

2015-04-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Car model?  Year?

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Jim Cathey jim.cathey...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yesterday the problematic SEL got a new 4-wire CIS temp sensor,
 an MTC monovalve insert, and new valve cover gaskets to replace
 the rocks that were on there.

 The MTC insert looked identical to what came out, except that
 the body was too fat to go through the coil!  I ended up swapping
 the rubber-bearing thingy on the end to the old body.  The old
 one was the worst I'd ever seen, the main diaphragm was hard, and
 completely torn away from the insert.  The monovalve, at least,
 seems to work well.  No real noticeable change from the temp
 sensor, though I have my suspicions that it'll help some, and
 I'm still smelling some burning oil.  (At least the gas smell
 was fixed by the new EHA valve.)

 -- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Favorite Automotive Products Thread

2015-04-01 Thread Dan Penoff
303 Protectant: best darned stuff there is for vinyl and MBTex.  Not shiny, has 
UV protectants in it to keep the sun from damaging the surface.

I use some Meguire's stuff for cleaning my wheels. Does a great job and is not 
terribly expensive. I do recommend using ceramic brake pads to cut down on 
dust, however.

PB Blaster - good stuff. I don't care about rolling my own penetrating oil. I 
don't use it often enough to mess with.

Wheelskins, while expensive, are the best (IMHO) alternative to replacing a 
worn steering wheel. We put one of these on the S500 wheel before I replaced it 
with one off of an S600. They do take a fair amount of time to install, but are 
really great once done.

Foamy window cleaner - I was turned on to this by my tint guy, as you can't use 
things like Windex on window tint film as the ammonia will destroy the film.  
It works great and doesn't streak or fog like Windex can. I don't buy any 
particular brand, just usually the cheapest. It all seems to work pretty much 
the same.

Leatherique. Nothing more to say, simply the best stuff ever for leather.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Apr 1, 2015, at 7:43 AM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dieselvolk,
 
 Better than an oil thread!  I'd like to get a conversation going about our
 favorite automotive products.  I'll start off with a few of mine:
 
 Boeshield T-9: a multipurpose product that cleans, protects, penetrates,
 displaces moisture  more.  Created by Boeing, this is what should be used
 instead of WD-40 when you want to both clean and lubricate. I use it as a
 preservative coating on my sailboats outboard motor and other metals
 exposed to outdoor living.  Really nice stuff.  Next time I clean a car
 engine, I'm going to follow up with a T-9 coating to prevent corrosion.
 Safe to spray on just about everything.
 
 Sonax Wheel Cleaner Full Effect or Wheel Cleaner Plus: Wheel Cleaner
 PLUS...for
 fast and effective removal of stubborn brake dust and road grime. The
 powerful wheel cleaner is 30% stronger and works much faster than SONAX
 Wheel Cleaner Full Effect. PLUS sprays on clear and turns red almost
 instantly as it begins to work. Because it is acid-free, Wheel Cleaner PLUS
 is safe for use on all wheel types and will not damage or corrode wheel
 bolts.  I haven't tried the latest formula yet, I've used up three bottles
 of the Full Effect version.  This stuff does a really good job cleaning
 your wheels.  I always spray it on, scrub it in a little with a brush, and
 then rinse off after a few minutes.  My wheels only get this treatment
 occasionally, I suspect that if used more frequently, you would not have to
 scrub it in.
 
 PB Blaster: Great stuff for loosening rusted hardware.  I know some of you
 like to mix your own blend of acetone and ATF, I don't have time for that
 and need something in a spray can, this stuff is readily available in the
 stores I frequent, so this is what I use.
 
 Wheelskins: genuine leather steering wheel covers.  Nice high quality
 leather, look and feel great.  I've installed two, one in my '95 E300 and
 one in our Infiniti I30.  A couple years later both are holding up just
 fine.
 
 
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 Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts

2015-04-01 Thread Rich Thomas

Not taking the fool bait

I don't think I ever paid Gary for the monovalve part I ordered from 
him, he never called me to get a CC#.


--R



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I am happy to report I have been in contact with Rusty and Gary and they are 
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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts

2015-04-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Part of the agreement with the new bimby is jabba is going to take over the 
running of the lists.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] OT Catholic schools to the wise, or not for the wise

2015-04-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I attended NYC public elementary schools, which at the time had
vague, ill-defined or evolving policies on corporal punishment.

in 3rd or 4th grade, I had a teacher, Mr. Osman, who would regularly hit
the students in my class.  I once talked back to him, and he knocked or
pushed me down to the floor!  I remember looking up at him, staring
directly into a face full of venom but also fear, glaring down at me.

Long story short, I told my mom about the incident and needless to say, he
was out of a job in a matter of days, if that.

How times change.

Andrew




On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 10:48 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 haven't HEARD anything about their being harsh, that is.

 Wilt

 - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 10:38 AM

 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Catholic schools to the wise, or not for the wise


  Teachers at our local Katlik school, (St. Mary) are very good, efficient
 and thorough, but I haven't anything about their being harsh or overly
 strict. BTW, there are no nunnies there.  'Last one aged out several
 years ago.

 Oh, BTW, I mentioned that it would be OK if the grandsons choose to
 become Catholic - even Methodist, if they want to.  ;)))

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 10:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Catholic schools to the wise, or not for the wise


  Back when I was a pup, I had the misfortune of being sent to the local
 horspital run by nunnie bunnies.  they mopped every day with disinfectant,
 and ran by the book  (Their book, not the good book) No one was not
 allowed to get up, even to use the toilet.  When they found out I had
 gotten out of the bed and went to look out the window at freedom, they tied
 me to the bed.   The philosophy was a lot different from now when they try
 to roll you out of the horspital bed, even if you are not ready.

 (+) It was much more sanitary than todays horspitals, with their disease
 laden carpets

 (-)  It bordered on inhumane treatment.



 Concurrently, the local Katlik schools were infamous for the nunnie
 bunnies whacking kids with rulers or boards for any perceived infraction of
 their book.   Even though over 90% were kaltik kids, there were a LOT of
 kids turned protestant by the tactics in those schools, even if they never
 changed their religion.   (emphasis on protest)

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Re: [MBZ] Favorite Automotive Products Thread

2015-04-01 Thread G Mann
OilEater Cleaner and Degreaser. Biodegradable, Non-Toxic, Non-Corrosive
parts cleaner.
Discovered it. tried it to clean some heavy grease and grime parts.
Completely impressed with how well it works. It emulsifies the grease and
grime. Comes concentrated and you dilute for your particular application
with water.
www.oileater.com

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 4:43 AM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dieselvolk,

 Better than an oil thread!  I'd like to get a conversation going about our
 favorite automotive products.  I'll start off with a few of mine:

 Boeshield T-9: a multipurpose product that cleans, protects, penetrates,
 displaces moisture  more.  Created by Boeing, this is what should be used
 instead of WD-40 when you want to both clean and lubricate. I use it as a
 preservative coating on my sailboats outboard motor and other metals
 exposed to outdoor living.  Really nice stuff.  Next time I clean a car
 engine, I'm going to follow up with a T-9 coating to prevent corrosion.
 Safe to spray on just about everything.

 Sonax Wheel Cleaner Full Effect or Wheel Cleaner Plus: Wheel Cleaner
 PLUS...for
 fast and effective removal of stubborn brake dust and road grime. The
 powerful wheel cleaner is 30% stronger and works much faster than SONAX
 Wheel Cleaner Full Effect. PLUS sprays on clear and turns red almost
 instantly as it begins to work. Because it is acid-free, Wheel Cleaner PLUS
 is safe for use on all wheel types and will not damage or corrode wheel
 bolts.  I haven't tried the latest formula yet, I've used up three bottles
 of the Full Effect version.  This stuff does a really good job cleaning
 your wheels.  I always spray it on, scrub it in a little with a brush, and
 then rinse off after a few minutes.  My wheels only get this treatment
 occasionally, I suspect that if used more frequently, you would not have to
 scrub it in.

 PB Blaster: Great stuff for loosening rusted hardware.  I know some of you
 like to mix your own blend of acetone and ATF, I don't have time for that
 and need something in a spray can, this stuff is readily available in the
 stores I frequent, so this is what I use.

 Wheelskins: genuine leather steering wheel covers.  Nice high quality
 leather, look and feel great.  I've installed two, one in my '95 E300 and
 one in our Infiniti I30.  A couple years later both are holding up just
 fine.


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 Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred

2015-04-01 Thread Fred Moir
Randy.Wow! And here I thought that Sarah Palin was from Alaska.Revisionist 
histories abound. The History is written by the winner, and truth (whatever 
that is) suffers.Nixon is not a crook, I heard him say that on national TV, so 
it must be true, not so?Now let me get back to my circle of conspirators.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 16:57:15 -0500
 From: rbenn...@bennell.ca
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred
 
 In Winnipeg we spent millions to build a pedestrian bridge with a 
 restaurant in the middle. Needless to say it does not do well in winter 
 since one cannot park anywhere near it.
 It cost an absolute fortune just to run water and sewer pipes to this 
 building in the middle that would not freeze come winter.
 Check out Esplanade Riel in Winnipeg.
 Nice looking bridge but we have crumbling streets and the politicians 
 spend our tax money on toys.
 
 We have also had lots of money spent rebuilding bridges and then 
 rebuilding them again the next year since the first time did not take.
 One of the benefits of living in a city divided by 2 good sized rivers.
 Red and Assiniboine.
 
 RB
 
 On 01/04/2015 4:50 PM, Fred Moir wrote:
  Randy, Curly.I have an option on the Brooklyn Bridge, but someone has made 
  an offer.The other bridge is the Crystal Bridge from Gloucester to Singing 
  Beach in Manchester.You can only get the full effect in full sunlight as it 
  is difficult to see.
 
  Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
 
  From: 126die...@gmail.com
  Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 16:40:56 -0500
  To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred
 
  Randy.Thank you.
  I've got a bridge for sale, cheap.
 
  Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
  'That be London Bridge, or Tower Bridge?
 
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Re: [MBZ] SEL 'stank'

2015-04-01 Thread WILTON

You mean you really did get in trouble over that decoy SEL?

Wilton

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From: Jim Cathey jim.cathey...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] SEL 'stank'



Car model?  Year?


1990 560 SEL.  The old bone-of-divorce contention.  The
car SWMBA thought was our SDL, in spite of it being parked
_behind_ the SDL, and looking (together) like more than
one car.  To me, anyway, it looked like _two_ cars.
Not sure why it didn't to her, or why this is somehow
_my_ fault!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] The Search Continues....

2015-04-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Maybe I should buy it for 2k. You are mean.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 1, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
 It just keeps getting better
 
 
 The guy with the granny car that had the trashed exterior and rusty door 
 bottom emails me tonight asking if I'll give him $5k for the car as-is.  This 
 is after he turns down an offer for $5k yesterday before I saw it, or so he 
 says.
 
 This is the ad for reference:
 
 http://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/4959771565.html
 
 Here is his message to me at the bottom and my response above:
 
 Robert,
 
 I'm going to be brutally honest here, since you asked:
 
 Your ad is a gross misrepresentation of the car in my opinion.  To-wit:
 
 1.) Recent serviced at mercedes with oil change synthetic only since new, 
 new toyo tires and alignment, new brakes front and rear,
 
 You yourself admitted that other than the alignment, the work was not done 
 at the dealership.  I would interpret at mercedes as the dealer, as I 
 would expect most people would.  The way this was written is a serious 
 misstatement at the minimum.
 
 2.) Interior is nice, exterior has a few parking lot dings and scrapes over 
 the years so not perfect! but can be easily made perfect.
 
 Really?  Does that include the old drink stains on the carpet?  Could you 
 spend an hour or two with a can of carpet cleaner and at least make an 
 effort to clean the interior up?  Is that the average person's idea of 
 nice?  I don't think so.
 
 A few parking lot dings
 
 A crumpled left front fender and a right rear quarter that has been painted 
 with a rattle can, and poorly at that, would not, in my very broad 
 interpretation, be considered by the average person as parking lot dings 
 and scrapes.  Maybe I have a higher standard, but I would still challenge 
 any reader of this ad to consider the body damage the car has to be minor.
 
 3.) it's practically like driving a new Benz
 
 Robert.  Really?  Do you honestly believe this?  You're comparing this car 
 to a new Mercedes?  I visit Mercedes of Tampa almost weekly picking up 
 parts, and I've never seen a new Mercedes in the condition this car is in. 
 Ever.
 
 
 In its present condition, if I compared it to all of the W140 chassis cars I 
 have looked at in the area over the last 30-45 days, this is a $2500 beater. 
  I'm not saying that to be cruel, I'm comparing it to the cars that you're 
 competing against in the market, which are also described far more honestly 
 than yours.  I know you won't, but I would challenge you to go out and look 
 at a couple to get an idea of what's out there so you can understand where 
 this car stacks up against the competition.
 
 I have no interest in the car, as I said when we met.  It has rust which is 
 a huge strike against it, especially when nearly every other W140 currently 
 in the local market has none.  It's a deal breaker if there ever was one.
 
 Thanks for the offer, but I'll pass.
 
 
 
 
 On Apr 1, 2015, at 10:14 PM, craigslist 4952435910 
 3sbmf-4952435...@sale.craigslist.org wrote:
 
 
 Hello Dan, would $1500 get the exterior looking good? Are you interested in 
 taking it for 5k? The guy that offered 5k has already bought another car 
 since I said no! You are really knowledgable about the car and looking for 
 one! Just an idea!? Let me know if I'm on the right track? If not 
 interested that fine too.   Thanks Robert
 
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Re: [MBZ] The Hoax of Global Warming Revealed

2015-04-01 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com

Global warming discussions can be dangerous. Two fishermen in a bar got into an 
argument about it that resulted in a near riot.
One said the sea had risen 2 inches because the high water mark on a post in 
Crystal River had risen exactly 2 inches above the usual high water mark, and 
therefore he believed in global warming. The other fisherman said the new high 
water mark was due to all the boats from the marina making waves and that 
global warming and rising seas was a lot of hooey.
After the riot was broken up someone called the government meteorologist in 
Tampa and ask him about the 2 inch rise in water level. He called Washington, 
the experts looked at the global warming program on their supercomputer, and 
said the 2 inch rise in Crystal River was correct even though no one from the 
government had ever actually measured it in Crystal River.
By then the fishermen had sobered up, so they shook hands, became friends 
again, and their argument was never settled; just like the global warming 
argument will never be settled.
Gerry   

Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
 To all the climate change deniers out there whose opinions I have contested 
 and disrespected: I apologize! 
 It turns out you were right - global warming is the biggest hoax ever 
 perpetuated on the human race.  Here's today's news story with the inside 
 scoop:
 
 https://nextgenclimate.org/hotseat/
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Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred

2015-04-01 Thread Fred Moir
Dwight.Nah! We all knew that was a lie.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 21:25:58 -0400
 From: dwight.gi...@gmail.com
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred
 
 How about I did not have sex with that woman?
 On Apr 1, 2015 9:20 PM, Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  Randy.Wow! And here I thought that Sarah Palin was from Alaska.Revisionist
  histories abound. The History is written by the winner, and truth
  (whatever that is) suffers.Nixon is not a crook, I heard him say that on
  national TV, so it must be true, not so?Now let me get back to my circle of
  conspirators.
 
  Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
  
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Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred

2015-04-01 Thread Fred Moir
Dwight.Of course he was lying!The Medi (ocrity) were in a feeding frenzy, the 
administration was in bury it deep cover up and no one seemed to know what was 
really going on.We soon found out when the truth (THAT word again) came out.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 21:43:12 -0400
 From: dwight.gi...@gmail.com
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred
 
 And Nixon wasn't lying?
 On Apr 1, 2015 9:37 PM, Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  Dwight.Nah! We all knew that was a lie.
 
  Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
  
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[MBZ] W140 Headlight assembly for sale

2015-04-01 Thread W140
My neighbor has a New Headlight assembly for a W140, It is the Left side 
(Drivers side), It is complete and includes the side light (Turn signal).If 
anyone is interested they can contact him at cddo...@juno.com, he can send info 
and pictures.I looked up the stock number 140 820 65 61He is asking $200

Walt Lasher
Seattle
W140 S350

Want to place your ad here?
Advertise on United Online
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/551ca205a30e92205652cst04vuc
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Pressure Washer Recommendations?

2015-04-01 Thread Jim Cathey

The 2HP (??) one I first had worked just fine, plenty of pressure,
but not much volume and thus not much cleaning power.  It seemed
fine until you actually had to do a big job, then it felt like you
were scrubbin the kitchen floor with a toothbrush.  I gave it away,
and bought a 10HP Honda/Reverbii unit that has been eminently
satisfactory.  No more pressure, but lots more volume.  Hits harder,
and cleans a wider swath.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] bridges

2015-04-01 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com

Randy Bennell wrote:
 Did I mention that the Esplanade Riel is named after Louis Riel.
 He was hanged for treason but somehow has become an important leader and 
 founder of our province.
 We also have a holiday in February now - Louis Riel day - referred by some of 
 us as hang a traitor day.
 RB

Your province sounds something like Florida which has had many montebanks and 
charlatans for governor. But the one we have now will undoubtedly go down in 
history as the most successful of them all.
He was the CEO of a huge hospital chain, HCA, when it stole millions of dollars 
from the government, was convicted, and fined millions.
He successfully claimed he knew nothing about the thefts, retained his millions 
or billions in HCA stock, and went back to Texas.
A few years later he spent his own millions in a campaign for governor; 
successfully bought the election; and recently did the same for his second 
stint as governor. 

During his first term he managed to cancel many of the laws that kept 
environmentally sensitive lands out of the hands of developers as well as other 
laws that restricted fly-by-night investors and big business in general.

He will undoubtedly have bridges or building in the capitol, Tallahassee, named 
for him; even if he has to pay for them himself. 
Florida voters seem to have high regard for anyone who brings his/her own money 
to Florida and spends it.
It's been that way ever since we arrived in Florida in 1946, so we honest 
citizens are used to it and simply go with the flow. 
Gerry

P.S. I have a bridge you can buy cheap. It can carry a lot of traffic, but if 
the maximum is exceeded, it spontaneously blows up.

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Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred

2015-04-01 Thread Dwight Giles
And Nixon wasn't lying?
On Apr 1, 2015 9:37 PM, Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Dwight.Nah! We all knew that was a lie.

 Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

  Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 21:25:58 -0400
  From: dwight.gi...@gmail.com
  To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred
 
  How about I did not have sex with that woman?
  On Apr 1, 2015 9:20 PM, Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
   Randy.Wow! And here I thought that Sarah Palin was from
 Alaska.Revisionist
   histories abound. The History is written by the winner, and truth
   (whatever that is) suffers.Nixon is not a crook, I heard him say that
 on
   national TV, so it must be true, not so?Now let me get back to my
 circle of
   conspirators.
  
   Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

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Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred

2015-04-01 Thread Dwight Giles
Yes you are spot on, Fred.
On Apr 1, 2015 9:56 PM, Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Dwight.Of course he was lying!The Medi (ocrity) were in a feeding frenzy,
 the administration was in bury it deep cover up and no one seemed to know
 what was really going on.We soon found out when the truth (THAT word again)
 came out.

 Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

  Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 21:43:12 -0400
  From: dwight.gi...@gmail.com
  To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred
 
  And Nixon wasn't lying?
  On Apr 1, 2015 9:37 PM, Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
   Dwight.Nah! We all knew that was a lie.
  
   Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

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Re: [MBZ] ON THREAD: Shifter Bushings

2015-04-01 Thread OK Don
OK Jon, what's the answer



  Anyone care to guess the cost?
 
  Jon
 
  ’85 300D



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There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves.

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Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred

2015-04-01 Thread Dwight Giles
How about I did not have sex with that woman?
On Apr 1, 2015 9:20 PM, Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Randy.Wow! And here I thought that Sarah Palin was from Alaska.Revisionist
 histories abound. The History is written by the winner, and truth
 (whatever that is) suffers.Nixon is not a crook, I heard him say that on
 national TV, so it must be true, not so?Now let me get back to my circle of
 conspirators.

 Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

  Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 16:57:15 -0500
  From: rbenn...@bennell.ca
  To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred
 
  In Winnipeg we spent millions to build a pedestrian bridge with a
  restaurant in the middle. Needless to say it does not do well in winter
  since one cannot park anywhere near it.
  It cost an absolute fortune just to run water and sewer pipes to this
  building in the middle that would not freeze come winter.
  Check out Esplanade Riel in Winnipeg.
  Nice looking bridge but we have crumbling streets and the politicians
  spend our tax money on toys.
 
  We have also had lots of money spent rebuilding bridges and then
  rebuilding them again the next year since the first time did not take.
  One of the benefits of living in a city divided by 2 good sized rivers.
  Red and Assiniboine.
 
  RB
 
  On 01/04/2015 4:50 PM, Fred Moir wrote:
   Randy, Curly.I have an option on the Brooklyn Bridge, but someone has
 made an offer.The other bridge is the Crystal Bridge from Gloucester to
 Singing Beach in Manchester.You can only get the full effect in full
 sunlight as it is difficult to see.
  
   Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
  
   From: 126die...@gmail.com
   Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 16:40:56 -0500
   To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred
  
   Randy.Thank you.
   I've got a bridge for sale, cheap.
  
   Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
   'That be London Bridge, or Tower Bridge?
  
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Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred

2015-04-01 Thread Fred Moir
Curly.Irony? Almost all politicians become bent at some time after they get to 
feed at the public trough. Power and money, almost the same thing, lead them to 
be corrupt and become total addicts from the local ward healer to the 
Potus.Honest Politician, my aching back!!Remember that?

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

 From: 126die...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 21:11:56 -0500
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred
 
 Randy.Wow! And here I thought that Sarah Palin was from 
 Alaska.Revisionist histories abound. The History is written by the 
 winner, and truth (whatever that is) suffers.Nixon is not a crook, I 
 heard him say that on national TV, so it must be true, not so?Now 
 let me get back to my circle of conspirators.
 
 Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
 
 NIXON was a piker compared to the crimes of pillary  (i sorted out 
 the emails I want you to have), and the I RS witch that now will get 
 off scott free.  They both should be hung.
 
 What is 18 minutes of cassette tame compared to 10,000s of 
 incriminating emails?
 
 Lets be realistic
  
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Re: [MBZ] bridges

2015-04-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Louis Riel is adored by a lot of the WInnipeggers I used to party with...

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:47 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Rick Scott is a criminal. Technically he was with Columbia health care not
 HCA. I lived in Nashville when he was convicted of  stealing from the
 American taxpayers. HCA bought Columbia.
 On Apr 1, 2015 9:42 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com
 
 wrote:

 
  Randy Bennell wrote:
   Did I mention that the Esplanade Riel is named after Louis Riel.
   He was hanged for treason but somehow has become an important leader
  and founder of our province.
   We also have a holiday in February now - Louis Riel day - referred by
  some of us as hang a traitor day.
   RB
 
  Your province sounds something like Florida which has had many montebanks
  and charlatans for governor. But the one we have now will undoubtedly go
  down in history as the most successful of them all.
  He was the CEO of a huge hospital chain, HCA, when it stole millions of
  dollars from the government, was convicted, and fined millions.
  He successfully claimed he knew nothing about the thefts, retained his
  millions or billions in HCA stock, and went back to Texas.
  A few years later he spent his own millions in a campaign for governor;
  successfully bought the election; and recently did the same for his
 second
  stint as governor.
 
  During his first term he managed to cancel many of the laws that kept
  environmentally sensitive lands out of the hands of developers as well as
  other laws that restricted fly-by-night investors and big business in
  general.
 
  He will undoubtedly have bridges or building in the capitol, Tallahassee,
  named for him; even if he has to pay for them himself.
  Florida voters seem to have high regard for anyone who brings his/her own
  money to Florida and spends it.
  It's been that way ever since we arrived in Florida in 1946, so we honest
  citizens are used to it and simply go with the flow.
  Gerry
 
  P.S. I have a bridge you can buy cheap. It can carry a lot of traffic,
 but
  if the maximum is exceeded, it spontaneously blows up.
 
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Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred

2015-04-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Does anyone remember Mission accomplished?

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 10:29 PM, Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Curly.Irony? Almost all politicians become bent at some time after they
 get to feed at the public trough. Power and money, almost the same thing,
 lead them to be corrupt and become total addicts from the local ward healer
 to the Potus.Honest Politician, my aching back!!Remember that?

 Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

  From: 126die...@gmail.com
  Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 21:11:56 -0500
  To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred
 
  Randy.Wow! And here I thought that Sarah Palin was from
  Alaska.Revisionist histories abound. The History is written by the
  winner, and truth (whatever that is) suffers.Nixon is not a crook, I
  heard him say that on national TV, so it must be true, not so?Now
  let me get back to my circle of conspirators.
  
  Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
 
  NIXON was a piker compared to the crimes of pillary  (i sorted out
  the emails I want you to have), and the I RS witch that now will get
  off scott free.  They both should be hung.
 
  What is 18 minutes of cassette tame compared to 10,000s of
  incriminating emails?
 
  Lets be realistic

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Re: [MBZ] bridges

2015-04-01 Thread Rick Knoble
‎The culture has degraded such that seeking and/or holding office, especially 
national-level office, is, in and of itself, proof that a given person is 
psychologically and morally unfit to hold public office.
Ann Barnhardt. 

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] The Search Continues....

2015-04-01 Thread Dan Penoff
It just keeps getting better


The guy with the granny car that had the trashed exterior and rusty door bottom 
emails me tonight asking if I'll give him $5k for the car as-is.  This is after 
he turns down an offer for $5k yesterday before I saw it, or so he says.

This is the ad for reference:

http://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/4959771565.html

Here is his message to me at the bottom and my response above:

 Robert,
 
 I'm going to be brutally honest here, since you asked:
 
 Your ad is a gross misrepresentation of the car in my opinion.  To-wit:
 
 1.) Recent serviced at mercedes with oil change synthetic only since new, 
 new toyo tires and alignment, new brakes front and rear,
 
 You yourself admitted that other than the alignment, the work was not done at 
 the dealership.  I would interpret at mercedes as the dealer, as I would 
 expect most people would.  The way this was written is a serious misstatement 
 at the minimum.
 
 2.) Interior is nice, exterior has a few parking lot dings and scrapes over 
 the years so not perfect! but can be easily made perfect.
 
 Really?  Does that include the old drink stains on the carpet?  Could you 
 spend an hour or two with a can of carpet cleaner and at least make an effort 
 to clean the interior up?  Is that the average person's idea of nice?  I 
 don't think so.
 
 A few parking lot dings
 
 A crumpled left front fender and a right rear quarter that has been painted 
 with a rattle can, and poorly at that, would not, in my very broad 
 interpretation, be considered by the average person as parking lot dings and 
 scrapes.  Maybe I have a higher standard, but I would still challenge any 
 reader of this ad to consider the body damage the car has to be minor.
 
 3.) it's practically like driving a new Benz
 
 Robert.  Really?  Do you honestly believe this?  You're comparing this car to 
 a new Mercedes?  I visit Mercedes of Tampa almost weekly picking up parts, 
 and I've never seen a new Mercedes in the condition this car is in. Ever.
 
 
 In its present condition, if I compared it to all of the W140 chassis cars I 
 have looked at in the area over the last 30-45 days, this is a $2500 beater.  
 I'm not saying that to be cruel, I'm comparing it to the cars that you're 
 competing against in the market, which are also described far more honestly 
 than yours.  I know you won't, but I would challenge you to go out and look 
 at a couple to get an idea of what's out there so you can understand where 
 this car stacks up against the competition.
 
 I have no interest in the car, as I said when we met.  It has rust which is a 
 huge strike against it, especially when nearly every other W140 currently in 
 the local market has none.  It's a deal breaker if there ever was one.
 
 Thanks for the offer, but I'll pass.
 
 
 
 
 On Apr 1, 2015, at 10:14 PM, craigslist 4952435910 
 3sbmf-4952435...@sale.craigslist.org wrote:
 
 
 Hello Dan, would $1500 get the exterior looking good? Are you interested in 
 taking it for 5k? The guy that offered 5k has already bought another car 
 since I said no! You are really knowledgable about the car and looking for 
 one! Just an idea!? Let me know if I'm on the right track? If not interested 
 that fine too.   Thanks Robert
 
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Re: [MBZ] bridges

2015-04-01 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Thanks for clearing that up. So many criminals become politicians in Florida, 
we pay little attention to the details of their crimes. Florida is pretty much 
like D.C. If you bring enough money to either, you can get about anything you 
want. In Florida, even the
governorship. 

Gerry
.

On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 21:47:16 -0400
Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Rick Scott is a criminal. Technically he was with Columbia health care not
 HCA. I lived in Nashville when he was convicted of  stealing from the
 American taxpayers. HCA bought Columbia.
 On Apr 1, 2015 9:42 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
  Randy Bennell wrote:
   Did I mention that the Esplanade Riel is named after Louis Riel.
   He was hanged for treason but somehow has become an important leader
  and founder of our province.
   We also have a holiday in February now - Louis Riel day - referred by
  some of us as hang a traitor day.
   RB
 
  Your province sounds something like Florida which has had many montebanks
  and charlatans for governor. But the one we have now will undoubtedly go
  down in history as the most successful of them all.
  He was the CEO of a huge hospital chain, HCA, when it stole millions of
  dollars from the government, was convicted, and fined millions.
  He successfully claimed he knew nothing about the thefts, retained his
  millions or billions in HCA stock, and went back to Texas.
  A few years later he spent his own millions in a campaign for governor;
  successfully bought the election; and recently did the same for his second
  stint as governor.
 
  During his first term he managed to cancel many of the laws that kept
  environmentally sensitive lands out of the hands of developers as well as
  other laws that restricted fly-by-night investors and big business in
  general.
 
  He will undoubtedly have bridges or building in the capitol, Tallahassee,
  named for him; even if he has to pay for them himself.
  Florida voters seem to have high regard for anyone who brings his/her own
  money to Florida and spends it.
  It's been that way ever since we arrived in Florida in 1946, so we honest
  citizens are used to it and simply go with the flow.
  Gerry
 
  P.S. I have a bridge you can buy cheap. It can carry a lot of traffic, but
  if the maximum is exceeded, it spontaneously blows up.
 
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Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred

2015-04-01 Thread WILTON
Indeed, I do!  'Said then it was way premature - the whole fiasco 
ill-advised.  Ya break it Ya own it.


We stood by and watched the populace destroy (loot) their own 
infrastructure.


I knew we were in trouble when I saw US Marines and soldiers kicking in 
doors and holding their wives and children at gunpoint/


Brenner sealed the catastrophic fiasco when he disbanded, with one stroke of 
pen, all of the government, all of the police and all of the military and 
sent all of those well-trained people home with no jobs, no income, all of 
their weapons and all of their ammo and mad as Hell.


In less than 24 hours, there was the first roadside bomb.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred



Does anyone remember Mission accomplished?

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 10:29 PM, Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com wrote:


Curly.Irony? Almost all politicians become bent at some time after they
get to feed at the public trough. Power and money, almost the same thing,
lead them to be corrupt and become total addicts from the local ward 
healer

to the Potus.Honest Politician, my aching back!!Remember that?

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

 From: 126die...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 21:11:56 -0500
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred

 Randy.Wow! And here I thought that Sarah Palin was from
 Alaska.Revisionist histories abound. The History is written by the
 winner, and truth (whatever that is) suffers.Nixon is not a crook, I
 heard him say that on national TV, so it must be true, not so?Now
 let me get back to my circle of conspirators.
 
 Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

 NIXON was a piker compared to the crimes of pillary  (i sorted out
 the emails I want you to have), and the I RS witch that now will get
 off scott free.  They both should be hung.

 What is 18 minutes of cassette tame compared to 10,000s of
 incriminating emails?

 Lets be realistic

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Re: [MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - DADDY RETIRES

2015-04-01 Thread Craig
On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 17:12:54 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Yep, here's another one.
 
 DADDY  RETIRES
 By Wilton Strickland

Thank you, Wilton.

I'm curious, was your mother much younger than your father? From your
dates, she lived 41 years after he died.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] SEL 'stank'

2015-04-01 Thread Rick Knoble
Jim writes:

‎ or why this is somehow‎
_my_ fault!‎
‎
Because. 
‎
Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred

2015-04-01 Thread Curly McLain

Yes I do- Iraq solved. Today  they had to retake Tikrit. Not accomplished.


Uh, I think GW did take it (if you check your history).  BHO gave it 
back.  Now the iraqis and BHO want it back again.   It would have 
been far cheaper just to hold on to it after GW took it.


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Re: [MBZ] The Search Continues....

2015-04-01 Thread Curly McLain

It just keeps getting better


The guy with the granny car that had the trashed exterior and rusty 
door bottom emails me tonight asking if I'll give him $5k for the 
car as-is.  This is after he turns down an offer for $5k yesterday 
before I saw it, or so he says.


This is the ad for reference:

http://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/4959771565.html



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Re: [MBZ] ON THREAD: Shifter Bushings

2015-04-01 Thread dseretakis
Um they charge $150 per hr for labor in NYC??

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 On Mar 31, 2015, at 6:29 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'll bite... $200.
 
 $150/ hour, $20 for parts, $15 shop fees, tax
 
 :)
 
 It's NYC!
 
 Jaime
 
 
 On Monday, March 30, 2015, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote:
 
 While in NYC last week my shifter started rattling and became very loose.
 I stopped at a local indie in Queens to ask a question or two about  it.
 Next thing I knew, he had the car on the lift explaining how dangerous it
 was, and that the 123 was the best design ever from MB.  Out of the shop in
 45 minutes with 2 new bushings and clips.
 
 No Rattle or loose shifter.  Bravo Zulu.
 
 Anyone care to guess the cost?
 
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Re: [MBZ] bridges

2015-04-01 Thread Dwight Giles
Yes i have wondered how FL voters  elected Scott. That  said we have  our
share of convicted politicians here in RI
On Apr 1, 2015 11:18 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com
wrote:

 Thanks for clearing that up. So many criminals become politicians in
 Florida, we pay little attention to the details of their crimes. Florida is
 pretty much like D.C. If you bring enough money to either, you can get
 about anything you want. In Florida, even the
 governorship.

 Gerry
 .

 On Wed, 1 Apr 2015 21:47:16 -0400
 Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote:

  Rick Scott is a criminal. Technically he was with Columbia health care
 not
  HCA. I lived in Nashville when he was convicted of  stealing from the
  American taxpayers. HCA bought Columbia.
  On Apr 1, 2015 9:42 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com 
 arche...@embarqmail.com
  wrote:
 
  
   Randy Bennell wrote:
Did I mention that the Esplanade Riel is named after Louis Riel.
He was hanged for treason but somehow has become an important
 leader
   and founder of our province.
We also have a holiday in February now - Louis Riel day - referred by
   some of us as hang a traitor day.
RB
  
   Your province sounds something like Florida which has had many
 montebanks
   and charlatans for governor. But the one we have now will undoubtedly
 go
   down in history as the most successful of them all.
   He was the CEO of a huge hospital chain, HCA, when it stole millions of
   dollars from the government, was convicted, and fined millions.
   He successfully claimed he knew nothing about the thefts, retained his
   millions or billions in HCA stock, and went back to Texas.
   A few years later he spent his own millions in a campaign for governor;
   successfully bought the election; and recently did the same for his
 second
   stint as governor.
  
   During his first term he managed to cancel many of the laws that kept
   environmentally sensitive lands out of the hands of developers as well
 as
   other laws that restricted fly-by-night investors and big business in
   general.
  
   He will undoubtedly have bridges or building in the capitol,
 Tallahassee,
   named for him; even if he has to pay for them himself.
   Florida voters seem to have high regard for anyone who brings his/her
 own
   money to Florida and spends it.
   It's been that way ever since we arrived in Florida in 1946, so we
 honest
   citizens are used to it and simply go with the flow.
   Gerry
  
   P.S. I have a bridge you can buy cheap. It can carry a lot of traffic,
 but
   if the maximum is exceeded, it spontaneously blows up.
  
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Re: [MBZ] bridges

2015-04-01 Thread Curly McLain

Yes i have wondered how FL voters  elected Scott. That  said we have  our
share of convicted politicians here in RI
On Apr 1, 2015 11:18 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com
wrote:


 Thanks for clearing that up. So many criminals become politicians in
 Florida, we pay little attention to the details of their crimes. Florida is
 pretty much like D.C. If you bring enough money to either, you can get
 about anything you want. In Florida, even the
 governorship.


  Gerry


It is tough to compete with IL.

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Re: [MBZ] bridges

2015-04-01 Thread Dwight Giles
Rick Scott is a criminal. Technically he was with Columbia health care not
HCA. I lived in Nashville when he was convicted of  stealing from the
American taxpayers. HCA bought Columbia.
On Apr 1, 2015 9:42 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com
wrote:


 Randy Bennell wrote:
  Did I mention that the Esplanade Riel is named after Louis Riel.
  He was hanged for treason but somehow has become an important leader
 and founder of our province.
  We also have a holiday in February now - Louis Riel day - referred by
 some of us as hang a traitor day.
  RB

 Your province sounds something like Florida which has had many montebanks
 and charlatans for governor. But the one we have now will undoubtedly go
 down in history as the most successful of them all.
 He was the CEO of a huge hospital chain, HCA, when it stole millions of
 dollars from the government, was convicted, and fined millions.
 He successfully claimed he knew nothing about the thefts, retained his
 millions or billions in HCA stock, and went back to Texas.
 A few years later he spent his own millions in a campaign for governor;
 successfully bought the election; and recently did the same for his second
 stint as governor.

 During his first term he managed to cancel many of the laws that kept
 environmentally sensitive lands out of the hands of developers as well as
 other laws that restricted fly-by-night investors and big business in
 general.

 He will undoubtedly have bridges or building in the capitol, Tallahassee,
 named for him; even if he has to pay for them himself.
 Florida voters seem to have high regard for anyone who brings his/her own
 money to Florida and spends it.
 It's been that way ever since we arrived in Florida in 1946, so we honest
 citizens are used to it and simply go with the flow.
 Gerry

 P.S. I have a bridge you can buy cheap. It can carry a lot of traffic, but
 if the maximum is exceeded, it spontaneously blows up.

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Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred

2015-04-01 Thread Dwight Giles
Yes I do- Iraq solved. Today  they had to retake Tikrit. Not accomplished.
On Apr 1, 2015 10:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anyone remember Mission accomplished?

 On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 10:29 PM, Fred Moir fredh.s...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Curly.Irony? Almost all politicians become bent at some time after they
  get to feed at the public trough. Power and money, almost the same thing,
  lead them to be corrupt and become total addicts from the local ward
 healer
  to the Potus.Honest Politician, my aching back!!Remember that?
 
  Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
 
   From: 126die...@gmail.com
   Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 21:11:56 -0500
   To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
   Subject: Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred
  
   Randy.Wow! And here I thought that Sarah Palin was from
   Alaska.Revisionist histories abound. The History is written by the
   winner, and truth (whatever that is) suffers.Nixon is not a crook, I
   heard him say that on national TV, so it must be true, not so?Now
   let me get back to my circle of conspirators.
   
   Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
  
   NIXON was a piker compared to the crimes of pillary  (i sorted out
   the emails I want you to have), and the I RS witch that now will get
   off scott free.  They both should be hung.
  
   What is 18 minutes of cassette tame compared to 10,000s of
   incriminating emails?
  
   Lets be realistic
 
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Re: [MBZ] bridges

2015-04-01 Thread Curly McLain
Thanks for clearing that up. So many criminals become politicians in 
Florida, we pay little attention to the details of their crimes. 
Florida is pretty much like D.C. If you bring enough money to 
either, you can get about anything you want. In Florida, even the

governorship.

Gerry
...


criminals become politicians; politicians become criminals

Kinda like journalists become demopoliticians and demopoliticians 
become journalists.  George Snuffleoffophagus comes to mind, among 
many others.


Defense contractors become politicians; pols become defense contractors

revolving door, especially the first.

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Re: [MBZ] Favorite Automotive Products Thread

2015-04-01 Thread dseretakis
Fluid Film. Spray it on bare metal and it will not rust even when exposed to 
road salt spray. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 1, 2015, at 7:43 AM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dieselvolk,
 
 Better than an oil thread!  I'd like to get a conversation going about our
 favorite automotive products.  I'll start off with a few of mine:
 
 Boeshield T-9: a multipurpose product that cleans, protects, penetrates,
 displaces moisture  more.  Created by Boeing, this is what should be used
 instead of WD-40 when you want to both clean and lubricate. I use it as a
 preservative coating on my sailboats outboard motor and other metals
 exposed to outdoor living.  Really nice stuff.  Next time I clean a car
 engine, I'm going to follow up with a T-9 coating to prevent corrosion.
 Safe to spray on just about everything.
 
 Sonax Wheel Cleaner Full Effect or Wheel Cleaner Plus: Wheel Cleaner
 PLUS...for
 fast and effective removal of stubborn brake dust and road grime. The
 powerful wheel cleaner is 30% stronger and works much faster than SONAX
 Wheel Cleaner Full Effect. PLUS sprays on clear and turns red almost
 instantly as it begins to work. Because it is acid-free, Wheel Cleaner PLUS
 is safe for use on all wheel types and will not damage or corrode wheel
 bolts.  I haven't tried the latest formula yet, I've used up three bottles
 of the Full Effect version.  This stuff does a really good job cleaning
 your wheels.  I always spray it on, scrub it in a little with a brush, and
 then rinse off after a few minutes.  My wheels only get this treatment
 occasionally, I suspect that if used more frequently, you would not have to
 scrub it in.
 
 PB Blaster: Great stuff for loosening rusted hardware.  I know some of you
 like to mix your own blend of acetone and ATF, I don't have time for that
 and need something in a spray can, this stuff is readily available in the
 stores I frequent, so this is what I use.
 
 Wheelskins: genuine leather steering wheel covers.  Nice high quality
 leather, look and feel great.  I've installed two, one in my '95 E300 and
 one in our Infiniti I30.  A couple years later both are holding up just
 fine.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] W140 Headlight assembly for sale

2015-04-01 Thread Curly McLain
My neighbor has a New Headlight assembly for a W140, It is the Left 
side (Drivers side), It is complete and includes the side light 
(Turn signal).If anyone is interested they can contact him at 
cddo...@juno.com, he can send info and pictures.I looked up the 
stock number 140 820 65 61He is asking $200


Walt Lasher
Seattle
W140 S350


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Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred

2015-04-01 Thread Curly McLain
Randy.Wow! And here I thought that Sarah Palin was from 
Alaska.Revisionist histories abound. The History is written by the 
winner, and truth (whatever that is) suffers.Nixon is not a crook, I 
heard him say that on national TV, so it must be true, not so?Now 
let me get back to my circle of conspirators.


Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.


NIXON was a piker compared to the crimes of pillary  (i sorted out 
the emails I want you to have), and the I RS witch that now will get 
off scott free.  They both should be hung.


What is 18 minutes of cassette tame compared to 10,000s of 
incriminating emails?


Lets be realistic

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Re: [MBZ] SEL 'stank'

2015-04-01 Thread Jim Cathey

Car model?  Year?


1990 560 SEL.  The old bone-of-divorce contention.  The
car SWMBA thought was our SDL, in spite of it being parked
_behind_ the SDL, and looking (together) like more than
one car.  To me, anyway, it looked like _two_ cars.
Not sure why it didn't to her, or why this is somehow
_my_ fault!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] W140 Headlight assembly for sale

2015-04-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Is it for 92-95 or 95 up?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Apr 1, 2015, at 8:56 PM, W140 w...@juno.com wrote:
 
 My neighbor has a New Headlight assembly for a W140, It is the Left side 
 (Drivers side), It is complete and includes the side light (Turn signal).If 
 anyone is interested they can contact him at cddo...@juno.com, he can send 
 info and pictures.I looked up the stock number 140 820 65 61He is asking $200
 
 Walt Lasher
 Seattle
 W140 S350
 
 Want to place your ad here?
 Advertise on United Online
 http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/551ca205a30e92205652cst04vuc
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Re: [MBZ] W140 Headlight assembly for sale

2015-04-01 Thread WILTON
Walt, didn't you have a 91 350SDL with an MB crate engine?  What happened to 
it?  'Thought I had dibs on it.  Or was it a 140 - the one you still have?


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W140 Headlight assembly for sale


My neighbor has a New Headlight assembly for a W140, It is the Left side 
(Drivers side), It is complete and includes the side light (Turn 
signal).If anyone is interested they can contact him at cddo...@juno.com, 
he can send info and pictures.I looked up the stock number 140 820 65 
61He is asking $200


Walt Lasher
Seattle
W140 S350


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Re: [MBZ] The Search Continues....

2015-04-01 Thread WILTON

I think I'd hafta let 'im find another buyer.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com

To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Search Continues



It just keeps getting better


The guy with the granny car that had the trashed exterior and rusty door 
bottom emails me tonight asking if I'll give him $5k for the car as-is. 
This is after he turns down an offer for $5k yesterday before I saw it, or 
so he says.


This is the ad for reference:

http://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/4959771565.html

Here is his message to me at the bottom and my response above:


Robert,

I'm going to be brutally honest here, since you asked:

Your ad is a gross misrepresentation of the car in my opinion.  To-wit:

1.) Recent serviced at mercedes with oil change synthetic only since 
new, new toyo tires and alignment, new brakes front and rear,


You yourself admitted that other than the alignment, the work was not 
done at the dealership.  I would interpret at mercedes as the dealer, 
as I would expect most people would.  The way this was written is a 
serious misstatement at the minimum.


2.) Interior is nice, exterior has a few parking lot dings and scrapes 
over the years so not perfect! but can be easily made perfect.


Really?  Does that include the old drink stains on the carpet?  Could you 
spend an hour or two with a can of carpet cleaner and at least make an 
effort to clean the interior up?  Is that the average person's idea of 
nice?  I don't think so.


A few parking lot dings

A crumpled left front fender and a right rear quarter that has been 
painted with a rattle can, and poorly at that, would not, in my very 
broad interpretation, be considered by the average person as parking lot 
dings and scrapes.  Maybe I have a higher standard, but I would still 
challenge any reader of this ad to consider the body damage the car has 
to be minor.


3.) it's practically like driving a new Benz

Robert.  Really?  Do you honestly believe this?  You're comparing this 
car to a new Mercedes?  I visit Mercedes of Tampa almost weekly picking 
up parts, and I've never seen a new Mercedes in the condition this car is 
in. Ever.



In its present condition, if I compared it to all of the W140 chassis 
cars I have looked at in the area over the last 30-45 days, this is a 
$2500 beater.  I'm not saying that to be cruel, I'm comparing it to the 
cars that you're competing against in the market, which are also 
described far more honestly than yours.  I know you won't, but I would 
challenge you to go out and look at a couple to get an idea of what's out 
there so you can understand where this car stacks up against the 
competition.


I have no interest in the car, as I said when we met.  It has rust which 
is a huge strike against it, especially when nearly every other W140 
currently in the local market has none.  It's a deal breaker if there 
ever was one.


Thanks for the offer, but I'll pass.




On Apr 1, 2015, at 10:14 PM, craigslist 4952435910 
3sbmf-4952435...@sale.craigslist.org wrote:



Hello Dan, would $1500 get the exterior looking good? Are you interested 
in taking it for 5k? The guy that offered 5k has already bought another 
car since I said no! You are really knowledgable about the car and 
looking for one! Just an idea!? Let me know if I'm on the right track? 
If not interested that fine too.   Thanks Robert


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Pressure Washer Recommendations?

2015-04-01 Thread Randy Bennell
Bigger is better so long as you keep your hands and other body parts out 
of the spray pattern.
You can generally avoid damage to things like wood by choosing to use a 
wider spray nozzle but if you want to clean really greasy dirty things 
then you need power to blast it off.

A rotating nozzle helps too.

RB

On 01/04/2015 11:19 AM, Greg Fiorentino wrote:

I need a new pressure washer for vehicles, decks, outdoor furniture, and the
driveway.  It does not need to be able to remove paint.  I was thinking of
the Sun Joe SPX3000 which can be had for less than $200 from Amazon. The
reviews are generally good, but there are quite a few negative ones.  I
would prefer not to have to deal with a gasoline powered unit and of course
want to spend as little as possible.  Any experiences you can share?

  


TIA,

  


Greg

  




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Re: [MBZ] buymbparts

2015-04-01 Thread Bob Rentfro
This is not quite as good as Regina's FB one buddy boy.
On Apr 1, 2015 8:45 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

 Part of the agreement with the new bimby is jabba is going to take over
 the running of the lists.

 Sent from my iPhone

  On Apr 1, 2015, at 10:19 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
 wrote:
 
  I am happy to report I have been in contact with Rusty and Gary and they
 are getting back together to relaunch Buyparts. More news to follow.
 
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[MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred

2015-04-01 Thread Randy Bennell
Fred posted a link to a Boston Craigslist ad offering some MB stuff 
including a pop tester setup for injectors.
I contacted Fred and asked if he would be a middle man for me and 
hopefully buy  the pop tester offered and then ship to me since I was 
afraid the vendor might think it was some sort of scam if I tried to do 
it from here. It did not work out as the fellow had already agreed to 
sell what I wanted to someone local but I do want to publicly thank Fred 
for his willingness to participate.

He contacted the fellow on my behalf and was quite prepared to assist.
I do appreciate it.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Pressure Washer Recommendations?

2015-04-01 Thread Randy Bennell

On 01/04/2015 2:28 PM, Curly McLain wrote:
For electric, I'd stick with karcher.  may cost a few % more, but will 
last longer.
for gas, look at the engine and pump.  how well it starts depends one 
the engine.  most of the pumps were Eyetalian.  Watch out for chinee 
pumps.  May be ok or not.


MTM is a good brand with parts availability.

Last one I bought (lectric) was a blue one campbell housefeld.  if you 
ran ot more than 5 min, the plastic around the brush holders melt and 
it is junk.


My first one is a karcher, and was through a fire.  I sawed off the 
melted top with a sawzall to free up the cooling fan, and it works. It 
is not pretty, but it runs.


Karcher is kinda the 240D of lectric washers.

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IF you saw off the top of an electric one, you might wish to ensure that 
your life insurance is in good standing.

They do tend to spray water about.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] Favorite Automotive Products Thread

2015-04-01 Thread Curly McLain
Mopar rust penetrant.  It eats rust.  can also be sprayed in 
cylinders to remove rust, but stay with it.  as soon as the engine 
turns over, flush it out and oil the cylinders with non-detergent 
oil.  If you leave it soak cylinders overnight, check the engine the 
next morning, and flush as soon as it turns over freely.


Acetone/atf and PB also are good penetrants, but neither eats the rust.

Molykote BR2 gun grease for door checks, suspension on old cars with 
grease fittings, general rust proofing, and lubing.  It works for 
wheel bearings but weeks.  Molykote wheel bearing grease would work 
better.  I put up with the weeping and I've never had a a wheel 
bearing fail that I put  BR2 in.


It is very close to the special MB sunroof paste.  The official stuff 
may have a higher molybdenum content.  Molykote undoubtedly has a 
similar product, and I'd bet Molykote makes the official stuff.


BG additives for manual trans, diff, diesel fuel, Etc.  Maked the 
petro products more slippery.  (may not be as noticeable with M1)


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[MBZ] The Hoax of Global Warming Revealed

2015-04-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
To all the climate change deniers out there whose opinions I have contested
and disrespected: I apologize!

It turns out you were right - global warming is the biggest hoax ever
perpetuated on the human race.  Here's today's news story with the inside
scoop:

https://nextgenclimate.org/hotseat/
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Re: [MBZ] OT Catholic schools to the wise, or not for the wise

2015-04-01 Thread Curly McLain
My family ancestors on one side were chased around parts of what is 
now der vaterland by troops of the archbishop of Worms.   This was 
very near Speyer, the seat of the Evangelical Frei Kirche.  They took 
a dim view of being burned at the stake by the Archi's guys, so a 
couple hunnert years ago decided to make way to the new world.


Once arriving here, they set up shop and were instrumental in setting 
up the Evangelical Frei Kirche in the town.  (it is still there, 
though now a UCC).  The area also have enclaves of deutscher katliks. 
The katliks pretty much traded amongst themselves, and vice versa. 
Until WWI, they all pretty much spoke Deutsch.  My Grandparents (3rd 
generation Americans) spoke it to each other, but everything to me 
was in English.


My dad was very anti Katlik, although after mixing with some riding 
motersickles and in the US Power Squadron, he mellowed some.   He 
didn't even get too bent out of shape when I told him we were having 
a katlik wedding.


I never could figure out why everyone was so antikatlik, until years 
later when I learned about the archbishop of Worms, and what was done 
to folks in the old country, just for not being katlik.


The other side of the family had pretty much the same thing going on 
in Ireland, but that is another whole set of stories.


The folks in the mideast have been doing this for thousands of years, 
and very long memories...  That won't change.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Pressure Washer Recommendations?

2015-04-01 Thread Curly McLain
For electric, I'd stick with karcher.  may cost a few % more, but 
will last longer.
for gas, look at the engine and pump.  how well it starts depends one 
the engine.  most of the pumps were Eyetalian.  Watch out for chinee 
pumps.  May be ok or not.


MTM is a good brand with parts availability.

Last one I bought (lectric) was a blue one campbell housefeld.  if 
you ran ot more than 5 min, the plastic around the brush holders melt 
and it is junk.


My first one is a karcher, and was through a fire.  I sawed off the 
melted top with a sawzall to free up the cooling fan, and it works. 
It is not pretty, but it runs.


Karcher is kinda the 240D of lectric washers.

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Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred

2015-04-01 Thread Curly McLain

Randy.Thank you.
I've got a bridge for sale, cheap.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.


'That be London Bridge, or Tower Bridge?

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Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred

2015-04-01 Thread Fred Moir
Randy, Curly.I have an option on the Brooklyn Bridge, but someone has made an 
offer.The other bridge is the Crystal Bridge from Gloucester to Singing Beach 
in Manchester.You can only get the full effect in full sunlight as it is 
difficult to see.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

 From: 126die...@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 16:40:56 -0500
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred
 
 Randy.Thank you.
 I've got a bridge for sale, cheap.
 
 Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.
 
 'That be London Bridge, or Tower Bridge?
 
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Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred

2015-04-01 Thread Randy Bennell
In Winnipeg we spent millions to build a pedestrian bridge with a 
restaurant in the middle. Needless to say it does not do well in winter 
since one cannot park anywhere near it.
It cost an absolute fortune just to run water and sewer pipes to this 
building in the middle that would not freeze come winter.

Check out Esplanade Riel in Winnipeg.
Nice looking bridge but we have crumbling streets and the politicians 
spend our tax money on toys.


We have also had lots of money spent rebuilding bridges and then 
rebuilding them again the next year since the first time did not take.

One of the benefits of living in a city divided by 2 good sized rivers.
Red and Assiniboine.

RB

On 01/04/2015 4:50 PM, Fred Moir wrote:

Randy, Curly.I have an option on the Brooklyn Bridge, but someone has made an 
offer.The other bridge is the Crystal Bridge from Gloucester to Singing Beach 
in Manchester.You can only get the full effect in full sunlight as it is 
difficult to see.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.


From: 126die...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 16:40:56 -0500
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred


Randy.Thank you.
I've got a bridge for sale, cheap.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

'That be London Bridge, or Tower Bridge?

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[MBZ] bridges

2015-04-01 Thread Randy Bennell

Did I mention that the Esplanade Riel is named after Louis Riel.
He was hanged for treason but somehow has become an important leader 
and founder of our province.
We also have a holiday in February now - Louis Riel day - referred by 
some of us as hang a traitor day.


RB

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[MBZ] Louis Riel

2015-04-01 Thread Randy Bennell
Should have added that Riel was crazy as a bed bug and thought the 
government way out east was going to pat him on the back and appoint him 
to be the Lieutenant Governor of the new province.
He had led a couple of uprisings against the government and the powers 
that be in eastern Canada at the time were tired of his shaningans so 
they had him tried for treason and hanged him.
Today he would have been put into some institution for the mentally 
deranged.

However, he was Metis and as such has now been revived as some form of hero.
Don't you just love the spin that can be put on things to change history?

RB

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[MBZ] OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - DADDY RETIRES

2015-04-01 Thread WILTON

Yep, here's another one.

DADDY  RETIRES
By Wilton Strickland

   At the end of 1945, Daddy retired from farming and bought a house on 
three acres two miles west of Nashville, NC, and we moved there.  The total 
cost was $3000, and he got some help on it from my two brothers in the Navy 
and one in the Army; 'also made small payments on it for several years. 
This is where I grew up and Mama and Daddy lived the rest of their lives --  
Daddy until 1955 and Mama until 1996.
   This was the first house we occupied to have electricity - lights only, 
though, supplied by a bare bulb hanging by an electric cord from the middle 
of the ceiling in each room.  Prior to this, we used kerosene lamps for 
light - a small, all glass lamp in the kitchen and carried to bedrooms and 
other rooms as needed.  We used a bigger, taller, brighter one, an Aladdin 
lamp, in the living room.  We children would sit by the lamp at a big table 
in the living room to do our homework.  We thought that getting light in 
every room merely by pulling on a little chain hanging from the naked bulb 
socket hanging from the ceiling was fantastic - much better than the 
kerosene lamps.
   The house had no electric receptacles, though, and I think the total 
capacity of the service panel was only 30 Amps.  Several months after we 
moved there, I helped an electrician put a receptacle for a radio in the 
living room.  This was before the introduction of wire nuts that are widely 
used now to connect electric cables.  We made splices by twisting the ends 
of the wires together and dipping them in molten solder in a small, iron 
ladle heated by a blowtorch.  The splices were then taped with a black, 
fabric (friction) tape.  Later, I helped him put a receptacle for a 
refrigerator in the dining room.  A few more receptacles were added over the 
years, and a new, 100 or 150-amp service panel with breakers was installed 
some time in the sixties.
   We did not have a refrigerator until 1948, when my oldest brother, 
Richard, gave us his after his divorce.  Our wooden icebox with a leaking 
galvanized sheet steel interior only occasionally had ice in it, but most of 
the places we lived had open wells about four feet in diameter and about 25 
to 30 feet deep.  Constant temperature in a well in this area is about 57°F. 
During the summer, Mama would often lower milk and butter down into the well 
in a bucket on a rope to cool it a bit and help prolong its usefulness.
   Another way to extend the useful life of milk when it began to sour was 
to churn it to separate the butter fat from it.  Our churn was a light 
gray stoneware jar about 9 inches in diameter and 15½ inches tall with an 
opening in the top about 7½ inches in diameter.  The top was a wooden disc 
Daddy had made to fit the opening.  The original stoneware lid probably got 
broken long before I can remember.  The lid had a ¾ hole in the center to 
accommodate the dasher handle.  The dasher was a wooden, broom-handle-like 
stick with two short, wooden paddle-like pieces attached horizontally to the 
bottom end of it to form a cross (+).  When the dasher was at rest, the + 
lay on the bottom of the churn with the handle/stick protruding 14 to 18or 
more vertically through the lid.  Mama (sometimes, Joyce or I, and probably, 
our brothers before us) would grasp the handle and gently move the dasher up 
and down in the milk for, maybe, 20 minutes or so.  This agitation, or 
churning, not only caused the butterfat to coagulate and separate from the 
milk as butter, it also produced a drinkable product -- buttermilk. 
Buttermilk is very nourishing, but it has a taste that must be acquired.  I 
never acquired the taste, likely because I never got hungry enough to drink 
much of it.  Many people like it very much as a cool drink.  Buttermilk also 
helps to make exceptionally good biscuits, for which I did, indeed, acquire 
a taste.
   This house even had a crank-type telephone mounted on a wall in the 
front hall, but we never did have it connected for use -- 'couldn't afford 
the $1.50 monthly bill.  The phone had an oak cabinet with a small shelf 
built into it and protruding from the lower, front of it.  The caller used 
the hand crank on the side of the cabinet to generate a signal to get an 
operator's attention.  A mouthpiece was permanently mounted on an 
up-and-down swivel at the end of a metal bracket protruding from the upper 
part of the front surface.  The earpiece was at the end of a wire coming out 
of the side opposite the crank and was hung from a pivoting hook near the 
wire.  Lifting the earpiece allowed the hook to pivot upward and close a 
switch inside the instrument to activate it.  The caller would stand in 
front of the phone, hold the earpiece to his/her left ear, crank the signal 
generator with his/her right hand and talk into the fixed mouthpiece. 
Because we never activated it, the phone company removed it after we had 
been there a couple of years or so.
   A 

Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred

2015-04-01 Thread Fred Moir
Randy.Thank you.
I've got a bridge for sale, cheap.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 12:00:51 -0500
 From: rbenn...@bennell.ca
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred
 
 Fred posted a link to a Boston Craigslist ad offering some MB stuff 
 including a pop tester setup for injectors.
 I contacted Fred and asked if he would be a middle man for me and 
 hopefully buy  the pop tester offered and then ship to me since I was 
 afraid the vendor might think it was some sort of scam if I tried to do 
 it from here. It did not work out as the fellow had already agreed to 
 sell what I wanted to someone local but I do want to publicly thank Fred 
 for his willingness to participate.
 He contacted the fellow on my behalf and was quite prepared to assist.
 I do appreciate it.
 
 RB
 
  
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Re: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred

2015-04-01 Thread Randy Bennell

Hey, I have always wanted my own bridge!
Someone must have told you, I will buy just about anything if I think I 
might one day need it.


Randy

On 01/04/2015 4:23 PM, Fred Moir wrote:

Randy.Thank you.
I've got a bridge for sale, cheap.

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.


Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 12:00:51 -0500
From: rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] A pat on the back for Fred

Fred posted a link to a Boston Craigslist ad offering some MB stuff
including a pop tester setup for injectors.
I contacted Fred and asked if he would be a middle man for me and
hopefully buy  the pop tester offered and then ship to me since I was
afraid the vendor might think it was some sort of scam if I tried to do
it from here. It did not work out as the fellow had already agreed to
sell what I wanted to someone local but I do want to publicly thank Fred
for his willingness to participate.
He contacted the fellow on my behalf and was quite prepared to assist.
I do appreciate it.

RB



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Re: [MBZ] The Search Continues....

2015-04-01 Thread Randy Bennell

On 01/04/2015 6:19 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:

That it may, but I have direct experience with cars being stored in an unheated 
area in temperate climates that had corrosion on aluminum parts due to 
condensation from the concrete.  None of them were driven on roads when salt 
was present.

As the slab heats and cools along with the ambient humidity and temperature 
changes, moisture will condense on the exposed metal parts and cause them to 
corrode. That's why when I have stored cars over the winter in an unheated 
garage I always put down a moisture barrier (plastic sheeting) between the car 
and the floor/slab.

Dan


I have also seen cars that were parked in a barn or garage on a dirt 
floor for years that look fine except for the fact that the bottom of 
the car is a scaly rusty mess.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Pressure Washer Recommendations?

2015-04-01 Thread Dan Penoff
I know you asked about electric, but I have a Sears/Craftsman 6.5HP with a 
Briggs engine on it. I've had it for at least ten years, and being in Florida 
it gets a regular workout. I just pressure washed my driveway last weekend, as 
a matter of fact.

Starts on the first pull, runs great, does something like 3500 PSI, I believe.

I bought it on a close out sale, I think. I junky it was heavily discounted at 
the time. I think I paid around $300 for it.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Apr 1, 2015, at 3:42 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
 
 On 01/04/2015 2:28 PM, Curly McLain wrote:
 For electric, I'd stick with karcher.  may cost a few % more, but will last 
 longer.
 for gas, look at the engine and pump.  how well it starts depends one the 
 engine.  most of the pumps were Eyetalian.  Watch out for chinee pumps.  May 
 be ok or not.
 
 MTM is a good brand with parts availability.
 
 Last one I bought (lectric) was a blue one campbell housefeld.  if you ran 
 ot more than 5 min, the plastic around the brush holders melt and it is junk.
 
 My first one is a karcher, and was through a fire.  I sawed off the melted 
 top with a sawzall to free up the cooling fan, and it works. It is not 
 pretty, but it runs.
 
 Karcher is kinda the 240D of lectric washers.
 
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 IF you saw off the top of an electric one, you might wish to ensure that your 
 life insurance is in good standing.
 They do tend to spray water about.
 
 RB
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Pressure Washer Recommendations?

2015-04-01 Thread Randy Bennell

On 01/04/2015 2:52 PM, Curly McLain wrote:


IF you saw off the top of an electric one, you might wish to ensure 
that your life insurance is in good standing.

They do tend to spray water about.

RB


The electrojuicity is well insulated and on a GFI.  If you stuck a 
finger into the fan, it might give you a sore finger, but I don't do 
things like that.  all that was cut off was the remains of the plastic 
handle.


However, if Y'all would like to donate money to a fund to buy me a new 
one, or want to ship me your old one, I'd be happy to accept 
donations.   Then I'd retire the old one.



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Hey, this bunch would chip in to pay to have someone video tape you 
sticking your finger in it so we could post it on youtube.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Pressure Washer Recommendations?

2015-04-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
And all get rich selling commercials once it goes viral.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 On 01/04/2015 2:52 PM, Curly McLain wrote:


 IF you saw off the top of an electric one, you might wish to ensure that
 your life insurance is in good standing.
 They do tend to spray water about.

 RB


 The electrojuicity is well insulated and on a GFI.  If you stuck a finger
 into the fan, it might give you a sore finger, but I don't do things like
 that.  all that was cut off was the remains of the plastic handle.

 However, if Y'all would like to donate money to a fund to buy me a new
 one, or want to ship me your old one, I'd be happy to accept donations.
  Then I'd retire the old one.


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 Hey, this bunch would chip in to pay to have someone video tape you
 sticking your finger in it so we could post it on youtube.

 RB


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Pressure Washer Recommendations?

2015-04-01 Thread Curly McLain


IF you saw off the top of an electric one, you might wish to ensure 
that your life insurance is in good standing.

They do tend to spray water about.

RB


The electrojuicity is well insulated and on a GFI.  If you stuck a 
finger into the fan, it might give you a sore finger, but I don't do 
things like that.  all that was cut off was the remains of the 
plastic handle.


However, if Y'all would like to donate money to a fund to buy me a 
new one, or want to ship me your old one, I'd be happy to accept 
donations.   Then I'd retire the old one.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Pressure Washer Recommendations?

2015-04-01 Thread Randy Bennell

Sounds like a plan!

RB

On 01/04/2015 3:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

And all get rich selling commercials once it goes viral.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:


On 01/04/2015 2:52 PM, Curly McLain wrote:


IF you saw off the top of an electric one, you might wish to ensure that
your life insurance is in good standing.
They do tend to spray water about.

RB


The electrojuicity is well insulated and on a GFI.  If you stuck a finger
into the fan, it might give you a sore finger, but I don't do things like
that.  all that was cut off was the remains of the plastic handle.

However, if Y'all would like to donate money to a fund to buy me a new
one, or want to ship me your old one, I'd be happy to accept donations.
  Then I'd retire the old one.


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Hey, this bunch would chip in to pay to have someone video tape you
sticking your finger in it so we could post it on youtube.

RB


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Re: [MBZ] Favorite Automotive Products Thread

2015-04-01 Thread fmiser
 Meade wrote:
 
 Better than an oil thread!  I'd like to get a conversation going
 about our favorite automotive products.  I'll start off with a
 few of mine:

 PB Blaster: 

I prefer Kroil.  The gallon I bought a couple decades ago isn't
gone yet.  When it is, I expect I'll replace it.

LPS-1, LPS-2, and LPS-3.  Great products for lubricating.

Home Despot nitrile dipped knit gloves.  I don't like gloves
- but these are surprisingly durable, surprisingly comfortable,
surprisingly functional, and surprisingly affordable.  

Door-Ease.  A wax-like, non-staining lube for exposed sliding
surfaces.  I've had mine for 30 years.  I don't know if it's still
available...

Automatic Transmission Fluid - a most excellent general purpose
lubricating oil.

Non-flammable brake cleaner, especially CRC brand.  Excellent for
de-greasing, and no explosion danger.  And it works great for
killing insects like wasps.  

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