[MBZ] Something for Kaleb?

[clay via Mercedes]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Set-Ilco-Locksmith-Automotive-Car-Keys-Blanks-/401085199624?hash=item5d628a7508

I guess if you need to steal a car, this would be a kit you could not live 
without


clay 

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1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
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Re: [MBZ] LED bulbs

[WILTON via Mercedes]

The submarine commander had a good reason when he said, "Rig for red 
running."


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Knoble via Mercedes" 

To: "Jim Cathey via Mercedes" 
Cc: "Rick Knoble" 
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] LED bulbs



They do make wonderful light >>that is rather blue in tone



Tastes vary. I hate hate hate blue >(or -ish) light.


In my old BMW the dash lights were red. Red light does not impare night 
vision. Red led lighting would make sense.


Blue, not so much.

Rick
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[MBZ] Spit Polish my Valve Covers

[clay via Mercedes]

Not really.  I picked up a set at PnP the other day.  That, the switches, and a 
wire harness/ECU.  I am thinking I would use the harness as a template for my 
own wire rebuild one day.

The valve covers off a M17 1973 were oxidized, and the insides were nasty.  
Encrusted with burnt brownie sludge that all manner of solvents were finally 
able to remove.  With the help of a putty knife and wire brush that came clean.

Today I worked on the exterior.  Gave it a scrub with green scratch pad.  Then 
hit is with 4000, then 5000 grit wet sand paper.  The crusty came off enough, 
but still some crud.  I draped the covers in paper towel and did a phosphoric 
acid soak.  Pepsi stood in for real acid and the covers napped under damp towel 
until it began to rain.  I pulled the towel off and took the covers inside and 
dried with newspaper.

I will have to hit HF to find buffing and polishing wheels and compound.   I 
have no idea how long this job will take.


clay 

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Re: [MBZ] LED bulbs

[clay via Mercedes]

Blue is closer to sunlight.  Morning sun light.  Afternoon goes redder.  Humans 
use the blue light to be more awake.  Blue light, such as video, florescent, 
LED is not good for night use, unless you want to keep folks awake and not able 
to sleep for hours.  Red dash light makes it hard for me to see stuff, and I 
get really tired by it

clay

On Mar 11, 2016, at 6:23 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:

> Look at the color temp.  Higher is more blue, lower is more yellowish.  I 
> prefer the lower temps but higher is supposedly more like sunlight, which I 
> don't think is true but there you go.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/11/16 8:49 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:
>>> They do make wonderful light that is rather blue in tone
>> 
>> Tastes vary.  I hate hate hate blue (or -ish) light.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] LED bulbs

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Look at the color temp.  Higher is more blue, lower is more 
yellowish.  I prefer the lower temps but higher is supposedly more 
like sunlight, which I don't think is true but there you go.


--R


Yep!  Whoever heard of a yeller sun?  Everyone knows the sun burns 
blue!   


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Re: [MBZ] LED bulbs

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Look at the color temp.  Higher is more blue, lower is more yellowish.  
I prefer the lower temps but higher is supposedly more like sunlight, 
which I don't think is true but there you go.


--R



On 3/11/16 8:49 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

They do make wonderful light that is rather blue in tone


Tastes vary.  I hate hate hate blue (or -ish) light.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OM606 glow plug renewal

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Next question: installing the new plugs, should I put anti-seize on 
the threads, or just the body?  If I put it on the threads, won't I 
need to adjust the tightening torque down?


Tomorrow is the big day.
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'95 E300


i'd spray the barrel with dry graphite lube, and put the never-seez 
on the threads.


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Re: [MBZ] LED bulbs

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

>>They do make wonderful light >>that is rather blue in tone

>Tastes vary. I hate hate hate blue >(or -ish) light.

In my old BMW the dash lights were red. Red light does not impare night vision. 
Red led lighting would make sense. 

Blue, not so much.

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Re: [MBZ] LED bulbs

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They do make wonderful light that is rather blue in tone


Tastes vary.  I hate hate hate blue (or -ish) light.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] How to shut off ACC

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Thank you mr. Happy pants
On Mar 11, 2016 5:57 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You hit the minus button till it says off. You really need to RTFM.
>
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> > Brandy ACC in Auto on the way home today on my 98 E300, it cools
> > beautifully, but I don't know how to turn it off. How do you turn it off
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Re: [MBZ] How to shut off ACC

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You hit the minus button till it says off. You really need to RTFM.

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> Brandy ACC in Auto on the way home today on my 98 E300, it cools
> beautifully, but I don't know how to turn it off. How do you turn it off
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[MBZ] How to shut off ACC

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Brandy ACC in Auto on the way home today on my 98 E300, it cools
beautifully, but I don't know how to turn it off. How do you turn it off
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Re: [MBZ] OM606 glow plug renewal

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Next question: installing the new plugs, should I put anti-seize on the 
threads, or just the body?  If I put it on the threads, won't I need to adjust 
the tightening torque down?

Tomorrow is the big day.
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Charleston SC
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'95 E300
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[MBZ] Mercedes hooning

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http://jalopnik.com/when-mercedes-built-the-most-practical-and-boring-twi-1764285136

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Wye Yu onli Go Down?

[clay via Mercedes]

That is the only changed variable.  I have had a few sets of switch that do the 
down only.  The ones installed work up and down.  I am just testing these to 
see if there is a way that makes them worth putting on the parts shelf.

clay



On Mar 11, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

> Maybe the problem was never the switch?
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 4:32 PM, clay via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> They look exactly the same, and I replaced the unworking switch in my car
>> with door switches.  I guess I will be picking these apart to clean up
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 11, 2016, at 3:33 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>>> Maybe they are different from the original switches?
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Re: [MBZ] My New-to-Me 98 e300

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How many miles did they last?

-
Max
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> I used Bosch
>
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> >
> > Kaleb, what brand do you like?
> >
> > I bought Beru for about $15 each.  I saw Bosch on either Autohaus AZ or
> > RockAuto for $9 each.
> >
> > -
> > Max
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> > On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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Re: [MBZ] My New-to-Me 98 e300

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I used Bosch

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> On Mar 11, 2016, at 3:41 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
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> Kaleb, what brand do you like?
> 
> I bought Beru for about $15 each.  I saw Bosch on either Autohaus AZ or
> RockAuto for $9 each.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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>> I got mine out without a problem, getting ready to do another one.
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Re: [MBZ] Wye Yu onli Go Down?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Maybe the problem was never the switch?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 4:32 PM, clay via Mercedes 
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> They look exactly the same, and I replaced the unworking switch in my car
> with door switches.  I guess I will be picking these apart to clean up
>
> clay
>
>
> On Mar 11, 2016, at 3:33 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
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> > Maybe they are different from the original switches?
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Re: [MBZ] My New-to-Me 98 e300

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Kaleb, what brand do you like?

I bought Beru for about $15 each.  I saw Bosch on either Autohaus AZ or
RockAuto for $9 each.

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Max
Charleston SC

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> I got mine out without a problem, getting ready to do another one.
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Re: [MBZ] LED bulbs

[clay via Mercedes]

On a newer car they will trigger bulb out message unless there is a resistor in 
line.  They do make wonderful light that is rather blue in tone

clay

On Mar 11, 2016, at 6:26 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

> I was looking for dome light bulbs and I see these crazy expensive LED dome
> light bulbs ($12 vice <$1). What is the word on these? Any benift other
> than its brightness and wallet emptying abilities?
> 
> Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Wye Yu onli Go Down?

[clay via Mercedes]

They look exactly the same, and I replaced the unworking switch in my car with 
door switches.  I guess I will be picking these apart to clean up

clay


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> Maybe they are different from the original switches?
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Re: [MBZ] My New-to-Me 98 e300

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I got mine out without a problem, getting ready to do another one.

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> On Mar 11, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
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> Indy said he got them out without a hitch. He has the patience of Job.
> 
> Bob R
>> On Mar 11, 2016 12:29 PM, "Bob Rentfro"  wrote:
>> 
>> Bosch
>> On Mar 11, 2016 11:22 AM, "Curly McLain via Mercedes" <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Bob,
 
 What brand glow plugs were installed?  What brand did you put in?
 
 
 -
 Max
>>> 
>>> 
>>> He said he bought Beru as they have a better reputation.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I wanna know how many broke off; and if the head was pulled; or if he
>>> drilled them out in the engine bay.
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Re: [MBZ] My New-to-Me 98 e300

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Indy said he got them out without a hitch. He has the patience of Job.

Bob R
On Mar 11, 2016 12:29 PM, "Bob Rentfro"  wrote:

> Bosch
> On Mar 11, 2016 11:22 AM, "Curly McLain via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Bob,
>>>
>>> What brand glow plugs were installed?  What brand did you put in?
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Max
>>>
>>
>>
>> He said he bought Beru as they have a better reputation.
>>
>>
>> I wanna know how many broke off; and if the head was pulled; or if he
>> drilled them out in the engine bay.
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Re: [MBZ] My New-to-Me 98 e300

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Bosch
On Mar 11, 2016 11:22 AM, "Curly McLain via Mercedes" 
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> Bob,
>>
>> What brand glow plugs were installed?  What brand did you put in?
>>
>>
>> -
>> Max
>>
>
>
> He said he bought Beru as they have a better reputation.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] LED bulbs

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Weird, I never thought a 201 was lacking in dash brightness, maybe the 126 is 
more 123 like?
Do the full Jim Cathey treatment, pull the cluster, line the light pipes with 
aluminum foil. I also made sure the area around the bulb wasn't leaking any 
light, if its melted like mine was it'd have deformed the housing some. Then 
use the LED bulbs...
-Curt

  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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Cc: Dan Penoff 
 Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 2:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] LED bulbs
   
I wonder how well they would work in a W126. My dash lamps are dim, at best.

Dan

> On Mar 11, 2016, at 10:07 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> They work nice in a 123 dash. I'd put some eBay xenon bulbs in my '83 that 
> melted the dash a little bit. The LEDs were brighter and didn't melt things. 
> Almost made the dash bright enough...The only challenge is the polarity has 
> to be right...
> -Curt
> 
>      From: Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
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> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 9:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] LED bulbs
> 
>> I was looking for dome light bulbs and I see these crazy expensive LED 
>> dome
>> light bulbs ($12 vice <$1). What is the word on these? Any benift other
>> than its brightness and wallet emptying abilities?
> 
> No.  Oh wait.  "With the energy savings you can buy yourself
> a trip to Rio!"
> 
> Or maybe, that's what the vendor can do?  I think LED bulbs are
> stupid.  There are a few spots where a brighter, cooler bulb
> are good, like maybe a 123 dash, etc.  The LED color is usually
> bad, garish, and often the lighting pattern is sub-optimal.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] LED bulbs

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I wonder how well they would work in a W126. My dash lamps are dim, at best.

Dan

> On Mar 11, 2016, at 10:07 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> They work nice in a 123 dash. I'd put some eBay xenon bulbs in my '83 that 
> melted the dash a little bit. The LEDs were brighter and didn't melt things. 
> Almost made the dash bright enough...The only challenge is the polarity has 
> to be right...
> -Curt
> 
>  From: Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List  
> Cc: Jim Cathey 
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 9:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] LED bulbs
> 
>> I was looking for dome light bulbs and I see these crazy expensive LED 
>> dome
>> light bulbs ($12 vice <$1). What is the word on these? Any benift other
>> than its brightness and wallet emptying abilities?
> 
> No.  Oh wait.  "With the energy savings you can buy yourself
> a trip to Rio!"
> 
> Or maybe, that's what the vendor can do?  I think LED bulbs are
> stupid.  There are a few spots where a brighter, cooler bulb
> are good, like maybe a 123 dash, etc.  The LED color is usually
> bad, garish, and often the lighting pattern is sub-optimal.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] My New-to-Me 98 e300

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Bob,

What brand glow plugs were installed?  What brand did you put in?


-
Max



He said he bought Beru as they have a better reputation.


I wanna know how many broke off; and if the head was pulled; or if he 
drilled them out in the engine bay.


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Re: [MBZ] crockauto

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Andy sez:  Found it!  There are super cheap brake pads I'd like to 
order, but how do

you add an item on this page to the cart?.


You click on the item or the photo, whatever works.

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Re: [MBZ] LED bulbs

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I was looking for dome light bulbs and I see these crazy expensive LED dome
light bulbs ($12 vice <$1). What is the word on these? Any benift other
than its brightness and wallet emptying abilities?

Bob R



They are only a buck or two on banggood.com

they are all pake stuff anyway.  You may as well order them almost direct.

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Re: [MBZ] My New-to-Me 98 e300

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Bob,

What brand glow plugs were installed?  What brand did you put in?



-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 8:27 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Alright y'all, standby for random questions as I start driving this thing.
> I have it back on the road after its three-year repose. Between my Indy and
> me, we replaced glow plugs,
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Re: [MBZ] crockauto

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Found it!  There are super cheap brake pads I'd like to order, but how do
you add an item on this page to the cart?.

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 9:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Ahhh. I'd tried to figure this out the other day but couldn't find it.
> To clarify for others, you pick your car and to the right there will be a
> little RSS link. On the next page they want you to set up the RSS feed, on
> the right it says "Love a bargain" with an HTML link next to it, click on
> that and it goes to the closeout page...
> -Curt
>
>   From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes List 
> Cc: Dan Penoff 
>  Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 7:15 AM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] crockauto
>
> I’ve posted about this before.
>
> You can go to the catalog entry for your car, click on the RSS or HTML
> link at the far right of the entry and it will link to their closeout page
> of stuff for that vehicle.
>
> If you do an RSS feed, it will update you any time something is added or
> removed.
>
> Dan
>
> > On Mar 10, 2016, at 9:48 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > (C)rockauto has closeouts for Moog tierod ends.  Should fit all MB from
> postwar until 1992 at least.
> >
> > Also belts for OM603
> >
> > I snagged front brake pads for $5. too
> >
> >
> > Their promo:
> > We have a limited number of wholesaler closeout parts available for your
> 2000 DODGE GRAND CARAVAN, 1986 MERCEDES-BENZ 300SDL and possibly other
> vehicles you work on. Wholesaler closeout parts come from manufacturers,
> retailers or distributors who, for whatever reason, decided to reduce or
> liquidate inventory. We pay less for these parts and can offer them to
> RockAuto customers at bargain prices. Some of these products were
> discontinued by manufacturers and may be hard to find after these closeout
> parts are sold. If you're planning for future repairs or if you've
> postponed maintenance, now is a great time to buy the parts you need!
> >
> > The links below display the wholesaler closeout parts available for your
> vehicles. Wholesaler closeout parts are also listed in the RockAuto catalog
> alongside our regular inventory.
> >
> > <
> http://www.rockauto.com/RSS/vehiclefeeds.php?carcode=1361865=wc=en=true>Wholesaler
> closeouts for your 2000 DODGE GRAND CARAVAN:
> >
> http://www.rockauto.com/RSS/vehiclefeeds.php?carcode=1361865=wc=en=true
> >
> > <
> http://www.rockauto.com/RSS/vehiclefeeds.php?carcode=1194072=wc=en=true>Wholesaler
> closeouts for your 1986 MERCEDES-BENZ 300SDL:
> >
> http://www.rockauto.com/RSS/vehiclefeeds.php?carcode=1194072=wc=en=true
> >
> > We regularly add new wholesaler closeout parts to the RockAuto catalog.
> We will send an update email like this one, covering up to three of your
> vehicles, at most once every three months. To be notified immediately when
> a closeout part for your vehicle is added to our catalog, sign up for our
> RSS feed by clicking an  icon in our catalog.
> >
> > Enjoy the savings, and thanks for being a RockAuto customer!
> >
> > Tom Taylor
> > Vice President, Marketing
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Wye Yu onli Go Down?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The window regulators may have been installed upside down.

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> All five allow it to operate in down ward motion, but just can not get it
>> up.
>>
>
> Seems unlikely that all five would be bad the same way.
> They are easily disassembled and thoroughly cleaned inside,
> but the vertically-mounted switches are unlikely to be
> as full of lunch scraps as the horizontally-mounted ones.
> It's worth doing, usually.  I use a dab of grease inside,
> too.
>
> With only one switch per window you can't blame the
> _other_ switch, so my guess is a wiring fault on the
> upstream side of the switch.  There's only two wires
> to the window motor, so it won't go either way if one
> of those wires is broken in the door hinge area.
>
> -- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] Rock Auto.com

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The Nissens rad was $10 cheaper at Rock Auto than AutohausAZ, even
with their shipping charge.  Their brake calipers were so much cheaper than
Napa or Advance it made me SICK.

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 8:32 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
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> Just checked their prices - beats even Autohaus hands down.  What are they
>> like to deal with?
>>
>
> WYSIWYG   They make their money on freight.
>
> RMeuropean or AHAZ are often cheaper when you get to their free freight
> level
>
> $6 ea for Moog tie rod ends right now.  either RH or LH Thread is in
> carquest boxes.
>
> I used to get whole tierods from Q for $12-14, but no more, so this
> closeout is the next best thing.  I put 2 on the heap and have a set of 4
> as spares.
>
> Moog tierod ends come with a grease fitting, so you can shoot them full of
> Molykote BR2 and extend the life several times over sealed tierod ends, and
> you can relube.
>
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Re: [MBZ] LED bulbs

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

They work nice in a 123 dash. I'd put some eBay xenon bulbs in my '83 that 
melted the dash a little bit. The LEDs were brighter and didn't melt things. 
Almost made the dash bright enough...The only challenge is the polarity has to 
be right...
-Curt

  From: Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Jim Cathey 
 Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 9:36 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] LED bulbs
   
> I was looking for dome light bulbs and I see these crazy expensive LED 
> dome
> light bulbs ($12 vice <$1). What is the word on these? Any benift other
> than its brightness and wallet emptying abilities?

No.  Oh wait.  "With the energy savings you can buy yourself
a trip to Rio!"

Or maybe, that's what the vendor can do?  I think LED bulbs are
stupid.  There are a few spots where a brighter, cooler bulb
are good, like maybe a 123 dash, etc.  The LED color is usually
bad, garish, and often the lighting pattern is sub-optimal.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] crockauto

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Ahhh. I'd tried to figure this out the other day but couldn't find it.
To clarify for others, you pick your car and to the right there will be a 
little RSS link. On the next page they want you to set up the RSS feed, on the 
right it says "Love a bargain" with an HTML link next to it, click on that and 
it goes to the closeout page...
-Curt

  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes List  
Cc: Dan Penoff 
 Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 7:15 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] crockauto
   
I’ve posted about this before.

You can go to the catalog entry for your car, click on the RSS or HTML link at 
the far right of the entry and it will link to their closeout page of stuff for 
that vehicle.

If you do an RSS feed, it will update you any time something is added or 
removed.

Dan

> On Mar 10, 2016, at 9:48 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> (C)rockauto has closeouts for Moog tierod ends.  Should fit all MB from 
> postwar until 1992 at least.
> 
> Also belts for OM603
> 
> I snagged front brake pads for $5. too
> 
> 
> Their promo:
> We have a limited number of wholesaler closeout parts available for your 2000 
> DODGE GRAND CARAVAN, 1986 MERCEDES-BENZ 300SDL and possibly other vehicles 
> you work on. Wholesaler closeout parts come from manufacturers, retailers or 
> distributors who, for whatever reason, decided to reduce or liquidate 
> inventory. We pay less for these parts and can offer them to RockAuto 
> customers at bargain prices. Some of these products were discontinued by 
> manufacturers and may be hard to find after these closeout parts are sold. If 
> you're planning for future repairs or if you've postponed maintenance, now is 
> a great time to buy the parts you need!
> 
> The links below display the wholesaler closeout parts available for your 
> vehicles. Wholesaler closeout parts are also listed in the RockAuto catalog 
> alongside our regular inventory.
> 
> Wholesaler
>  closeouts for your 2000 DODGE GRAND CARAVAN:
> http://www.rockauto.com/RSS/vehiclefeeds.php?carcode=1361865=wc=en=true
> 
> Wholesaler
>  closeouts for your 1986 MERCEDES-BENZ 300SDL:
> http://www.rockauto.com/RSS/vehiclefeeds.php?carcode=1194072=wc=en=true
> 
> We regularly add new wholesaler closeout parts to the RockAuto catalog. We 
> will send an update email like this one, covering up to three of your 
> vehicles, at most once every three months. To be notified immediately when a 
> closeout part for your vehicle is added to our catalog, sign up for our RSS 
> feed by clicking an  icon in our catalog.
> 
> Enjoy the savings, and thanks for being a RockAuto customer!
> 
> Tom Taylor
> Vice President, Marketing
> 
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Re: [MBZ] LED bulbs

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Look on banggood and you can find them cheepcheep with free shipping 
from chineeland


--R

On 3/11/16 9:26 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

I was looking for dome light bulbs and I see these crazy expensive LED dome
light bulbs ($12 vice <$1). What is the word on these? Any benift other
than its brightness and wallet emptying abilities?

Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] LED bulbs

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

I was looking for dome light bulbs and I see these crazy expensive LED 
dome

light bulbs ($12 vice <$1). What is the word on these? Any benift other
than its brightness and wallet emptying abilities?


No.  Oh wait.  "With the energy savings you can buy yourself
a trip to Rio!"

Or maybe, that's what the vendor can do?  I think LED bulbs are
stupid.  There are a few spots where a brighter, cooler bulb
are good, like maybe a 123 dash, etc.  The LED color is usually
bad, garish, and often the lighting pattern is sub-optimal.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Wye Yu onli Go Down?

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

All five allow it to operate in down ward motion, but just can not get 
it up.


Seems unlikely that all five would be bad the same way.
They are easily disassembled and thoroughly cleaned inside,
but the vertically-mounted switches are unlikely to be
as full of lunch scraps as the horizontally-mounted ones.
It's worth doing, usually.  I use a dab of grease inside,
too.

With only one switch per window you can't blame the
_other_ switch, so my guess is a wiring fault on the
upstream side of the switch.  There's only two wires
to the window motor, so it won't go either way if one
of those wires is broken in the door hinge area.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] ACC Light on 98 e300

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Okay, I vaguely remember reading about 'em; 'haven't needed 'em/it.

Wilt

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes List" 
Cc: "Dan Penoff" 
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ACC Light on 98 e300


They are the things that are flat metal with the rings on one end:

http://www.amazon.com/Radio-Stereo-Removal-Install-Tools/dp/B00HW58R92 



You push them into the slots at the bottom of the ACC unit and them pull it 
out.


Dan


On Mar 10, 2016, at 10:12 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:



No

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 10, 2016, at 8:50 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  
wrote:


Is a tool (hook) like the one I made 20 years ago using part of a coat 
hanger by bending about 1/8 inch on the end 90°?



> Wilton


THe radio dealies are something like 20-24 ga steel about 7mm wide and 
maybe 4" long with a 90º bend on the end you hold on to.


You can make your own with a tinsnips.  If you look at the area below the 
radidio, you will see the 2 little slots these are stuck  in to release 
the radio.


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[MBZ] LED bulbs

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

I was looking for dome light bulbs and I see these crazy expensive LED dome
light bulbs ($12 vice <$1). What is the word on these? Any benift other
than its brightness and wallet emptying abilities?

Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

While attempting to remove the 22mm nut on the steering wheel on a PnP 
SL my ratchet died.


For those I use a 5# sledge and my 1/2" Snap-on ratchet.
(A friend found it in her shed, broken, and gave it to me.
The hardest part was chasing down a truck!  The lifetime
warrantee was nice.)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] My New-to-Me 98 e300

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Thanks, girl.

Bob R
On Mar 11, 2016 6:45 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Warm soapy water and a brush.  You can use 303 on it after cleaning, but
> it’s not necessary.
>
> Outside - wash, clay bar, some polish if the paint is faded or chalky,
> then wax.
>
> Meguire’s stuff is always a safe bet and fairly easy to find.
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Mar 11, 2016, at 8:41 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > That's probably what's happening. Having owned a '86 190e, and then an
> '05
> > e320, I had no idea when that feature became common.
> > So a quick Martha question. The initial cleaning of the MB Tex and the
> > doors, warm soapy water correct? Do you use a microfiber towel or a soft
> > brush?
> >
> > Bob R
> > On Mar 11, 2016 6:36 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I don’t know about this model, but I can tell you that my 1997 SL500
> does
> >> this - the driving lights come on when the door is shut and the car is
> >> locked.  They go off after about 30 seconds.
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Mar 11, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Alright y'all, standby for random questions as I start driving this
> >> thing.
> >>> I have it back on the road after its three-year repose. Between my Indy
> >> and
> >>> me, we replaced glow plugs, replaced all fuel lines, replace the fuel
> >> shut
> >>> off valve, new tie rod, tie rod ends, idler arm, steering rack, AC
> >> service,
> >>> belt tensioner, new tires and a fresh alignment coming Monday.
> Tomorrow,
> >>> I'm going to go all Martha on itto the best of my ability. I took
> it
> >> on
> >>> its first trip out to the old nuke plant today and it drives like a
> >> dream.
> >>> I have to get a windshield washer reservoir, a dome light bulb, the
> back
> >>> light bulbs for the ACC, and a sun roof switch.
> >>> So...random question number one: after driving with the headlights on,
> I
> >>> get to my destination shut the car off shut the lights off get out the
> >>> driver's door and the lights come back on. I can't decide if this is an
> >>> issue with the switch (and I've cycled the pissed out of it knowing how
> >> it
> >>> works and knowing it has sat for a spell) or if it has something to do
> >> with
> >>> the lights coming on whilst I lock the doors (gotta pick up batteries
> for
> >>> the fob on the way home tonight) and the time out off. I guess I
> haven't
> >>> been patient enough to wait yet.
> >>> Has anyone who has owned one of these have any words of wisdom for me?
> >>>
> >>> Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] My New-to-Me 98 e300

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Warm soapy water and a brush.  You can use 303 on it after cleaning, but it’s 
not necessary.

Outside - wash, clay bar, some polish if the paint is faded or chalky, then wax.

Meguire’s stuff is always a safe bet and fairly easy to find.

Dan


> On Mar 11, 2016, at 8:41 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That's probably what's happening. Having owned a '86 190e, and then an '05
> e320, I had no idea when that feature became common.
> So a quick Martha question. The initial cleaning of the MB Tex and the
> doors, warm soapy water correct? Do you use a microfiber towel or a soft
> brush?
> 
> Bob R
> On Mar 11, 2016 6:36 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> 
>> I don’t know about this model, but I can tell you that my 1997 SL500 does
>> this - the driving lights come on when the door is shut and the car is
>> locked.  They go off after about 30 seconds.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Alright y'all, standby for random questions as I start driving this
>> thing.
>>> I have it back on the road after its three-year repose. Between my Indy
>> and
>>> me, we replaced glow plugs, replaced all fuel lines, replace the fuel
>> shut
>>> off valve, new tie rod, tie rod ends, idler arm, steering rack, AC
>> service,
>>> belt tensioner, new tires and a fresh alignment coming Monday. Tomorrow,
>>> I'm going to go all Martha on itto the best of my ability. I took it
>> on
>>> its first trip out to the old nuke plant today and it drives like a
>> dream.
>>> I have to get a windshield washer reservoir, a dome light bulb, the back
>>> light bulbs for the ACC, and a sun roof switch.
>>> So...random question number one: after driving with the headlights on, I
>>> get to my destination shut the car off shut the lights off get out the
>>> driver's door and the lights come back on. I can't decide if this is an
>>> issue with the switch (and I've cycled the pissed out of it knowing how
>> it
>>> works and knowing it has sat for a spell) or if it has something to do
>> with
>>> the lights coming on whilst I lock the doors (gotta pick up batteries for
>>> the fob on the way home tonight) and the time out off. I guess I haven't
>>> been patient enough to wait yet.
>>> Has anyone who has owned one of these have any words of wisdom for me?
>>> 
>>> Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] My New-to-Me 98 e300

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

That's probably what's happening. Having owned a '86 190e, and then an '05
e320, I had no idea when that feature became common.
So a quick Martha question. The initial cleaning of the MB Tex and the
doors, warm soapy water correct? Do you use a microfiber towel or a soft
brush?

Bob R
On Mar 11, 2016 6:36 AM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> I don’t know about this model, but I can tell you that my 1997 SL500 does
> this - the driving lights come on when the door is shut and the car is
> locked.  They go off after about 30 seconds.
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Mar 11, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Alright y'all, standby for random questions as I start driving this
> thing.
> > I have it back on the road after its three-year repose. Between my Indy
> and
> > me, we replaced glow plugs, replaced all fuel lines, replace the fuel
> shut
> > off valve, new tie rod, tie rod ends, idler arm, steering rack, AC
> service,
> > belt tensioner, new tires and a fresh alignment coming Monday. Tomorrow,
> > I'm going to go all Martha on itto the best of my ability. I took it
> on
> > its first trip out to the old nuke plant today and it drives like a
> dream.
> > I have to get a windshield washer reservoir, a dome light bulb, the back
> > light bulbs for the ACC, and a sun roof switch.
> > So...random question number one: after driving with the headlights on, I
> > get to my destination shut the car off shut the lights off get out the
> > driver's door and the lights come back on. I can't decide if this is an
> > issue with the switch (and I've cycled the pissed out of it knowing how
> it
> > works and knowing it has sat for a spell) or if it has something to do
> with
> > the lights coming on whilst I lock the doors (gotta pick up batteries for
> > the fob on the way home tonight) and the time out off. I guess I haven't
> > been patient enough to wait yet.
> > Has anyone who has owned one of these have any words of wisdom for me?
> >
> > Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Rock Auto.com

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Just checked their prices - beats even Autohaus hands down.  What are they
like to deal with?


WYSIWYG   They make their money on freight.

RMeuropean or AHAZ are often cheaper when you get to their free freight level

$6 ea for Moog tie rod ends right now.  either RH or LH Thread is in 
carquest boxes.


I used to get whole tierods from Q for $12-14, but no more, so this 
closeout is the next best thing.  I put 2 on the heap and have a set 
of 4 as spares.


Moog tierod ends come with a grease fitting, so you can shoot them 
full of Molykote BR2 and extend the life several times over sealed 
tierod ends, and you can relube.


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Re: [MBZ] My New-to-Me 98 e300

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It's supposed to do that. It goes off after a minute so you can find your keys 
or whatever to get in the house. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2016, at 7:27 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Alright y'all, standby for random questions as I start driving this thing.
> I have it back on the road after its three-year repose. Between my Indy and
> me, we replaced glow plugs, replaced all fuel lines, replace the fuel shut
> off valve, new tie rod, tie rod ends, idler arm, steering rack, AC service,
> belt tensioner, new tires and a fresh alignment coming Monday. Tomorrow,
> I'm going to go all Martha on itto the best of my ability. I took it on
> its first trip out to the old nuke plant today and it drives like a dream.
> I have to get a windshield washer reservoir, a dome light bulb, the back
> light bulbs for the ACC, and a sun roof switch.
> So...random question number one: after driving with the headlights on, I
> get to my destination shut the car off shut the lights off get out the
> driver's door and the lights come back on. I can't decide if this is an
> issue with the switch (and I've cycled the pissed out of it knowing how it
> works and knowing it has sat for a spell) or if it has something to do with
> the lights coming on whilst I lock the doors (gotta pick up batteries for
> the fob on the way home tonight) and the time out off. I guess I haven't
> been patient enough to wait yet.
> Has anyone who has owned one of these have any words of wisdom for me?
> 
> Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] My New-to-Me 98 e300

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I don’t know about this model, but I can tell you that my 1997 SL500 does this 
- the driving lights come on when the door is shut and the car is locked.  They 
go off after about 30 seconds.

Dan


> On Mar 11, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Alright y'all, standby for random questions as I start driving this thing.
> I have it back on the road after its three-year repose. Between my Indy and
> me, we replaced glow plugs, replaced all fuel lines, replace the fuel shut
> off valve, new tie rod, tie rod ends, idler arm, steering rack, AC service,
> belt tensioner, new tires and a fresh alignment coming Monday. Tomorrow,
> I'm going to go all Martha on itto the best of my ability. I took it on
> its first trip out to the old nuke plant today and it drives like a dream.
> I have to get a windshield washer reservoir, a dome light bulb, the back
> light bulbs for the ACC, and a sun roof switch.
> So...random question number one: after driving with the headlights on, I
> get to my destination shut the car off shut the lights off get out the
> driver's door and the lights come back on. I can't decide if this is an
> issue with the switch (and I've cycled the pissed out of it knowing how it
> works and knowing it has sat for a spell) or if it has something to do with
> the lights coming on whilst I lock the doors (gotta pick up batteries for
> the fob on the way home tonight) and the time out off. I guess I haven't
> been patient enough to wait yet.
> Has anyone who has owned one of these have any words of wisdom for me?
> 
> Bob R
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[MBZ] My New-to-Me 98 e300

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Alright y'all, standby for random questions as I start driving this thing.
I have it back on the road after its three-year repose. Between my Indy and
me, we replaced glow plugs, replaced all fuel lines, replace the fuel shut
off valve, new tie rod, tie rod ends, idler arm, steering rack, AC service,
belt tensioner, new tires and a fresh alignment coming Monday. Tomorrow,
I'm going to go all Martha on itto the best of my ability. I took it on
its first trip out to the old nuke plant today and it drives like a dream.
I have to get a windshield washer reservoir, a dome light bulb, the back
light bulbs for the ACC, and a sun roof switch.
So...random question number one: after driving with the headlights on, I
get to my destination shut the car off shut the lights off get out the
driver's door and the lights come back on. I can't decide if this is an
issue with the switch (and I've cycled the pissed out of it knowing how it
works and knowing it has sat for a spell) or if it has something to do with
the lights coming on whilst I lock the doors (gotta pick up batteries for
the fob on the way home tonight) and the time out off. I guess I haven't
been patient enough to wait yet.
Has anyone who has owned one of these have any words of wisdom for me?

Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Rock Auto.com

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

They ship quickly and the one time I had an issue I was able to reach a live 
person and they were very helpful.  They’re based out to Madison, WI in the 
States.  I think the parent company is actually in the UK.

Dan


> On Mar 10, 2016, at 11:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Just checked their prices - beats even Autohaus hands down.  What are they
> like to deal with?
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Re: [MBZ] ACC Light on 98 e300

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

They are the things that are flat metal with the rings on one end:

http://www.amazon.com/Radio-Stereo-Removal-Install-Tools/dp/B00HW58R92 


You push them into the slots at the bottom of the ACC unit and them pull it out.

Dan


> On Mar 10, 2016, at 10:12 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>> No
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2016, at 8:50 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is a tool (hook) like the one I made 20 years ago using part of a coat 
>>> hanger by bending about 1/8 inch on the end 90°?
>>> 
>> > Wilton
> 
> THe radio dealies are something like 20-24 ga steel about 7mm wide and maybe 
> 4" long with a 90º bend on the end you hold on to.
> 
> You can make your own with a tinsnips.  If you look at the area below the 
> radidio, you will see the 2 little slots these are stuck  in to release the 
> radio.
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Re: [MBZ] crockauto

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’ve posted about this before.

You can go to the catalog entry for your car, click on the RSS or HTML link at 
the far right of the entry and it will link to their closeout page of stuff for 
that vehicle.

If you do an RSS feed, it will update you any time something is added or 
removed.

Dan

> On Mar 10, 2016, at 9:48 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> (C)rockauto has closeouts for Moog tierod ends.  Should fit all MB from 
> postwar until 1992 at least.
> 
> Also belts for OM603
> 
> I snagged front brake pads for $5. too
> 
> 
> Their promo:
> We have a limited number of wholesaler closeout parts available for your 2000 
> DODGE GRAND CARAVAN, 1986 MERCEDES-BENZ 300SDL and possibly other vehicles 
> you work on. Wholesaler closeout parts come from manufacturers, retailers or 
> distributors who, for whatever reason, decided to reduce or liquidate 
> inventory. We pay less for these parts and can offer them to RockAuto 
> customers at bargain prices. Some of these products were discontinued by 
> manufacturers and may be hard to find after these closeout parts are sold. If 
> you're planning for future repairs or if you've postponed maintenance, now is 
> a great time to buy the parts you need!
> 
> The links below display the wholesaler closeout parts available for your 
> vehicles. Wholesaler closeout parts are also listed in the RockAuto catalog 
> alongside our regular inventory.
> 
> Wholesaler
>  closeouts for your 2000 DODGE GRAND CARAVAN:
> http://www.rockauto.com/RSS/vehiclefeeds.php?carcode=1361865=wc=en=true
> 
> Wholesaler
>  closeouts for your 1986 MERCEDES-BENZ 300SDL:
> http://www.rockauto.com/RSS/vehiclefeeds.php?carcode=1194072=wc=en=true
> 
> We regularly add new wholesaler closeout parts to the RockAuto catalog. We 
> will send an update email like this one, covering up to three of your 
> vehicles, at most once every three months. To be notified immediately when a 
> closeout part for your vehicle is added to our catalog, sign up for our RSS 
> feed by clicking an  icon in our catalog.
> 
> Enjoy the savings, and thanks for being a RockAuto customer!
> 
> Tom Taylor
> Vice President, Marketing
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Wye Yu onli Go Down?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Maybe they are different from the original switches?
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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