date:20170128


Or this one:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSE3fkeHAmo
Closer to home.  Exit 146 on US41/I-41 in WI   (Appleton, WI)

http://www.banggood.com/buy/dash-cam.html  cheaper than a smartfone.

Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
January 28, 2017 at 10:20 PM
Just a reminder that I've got to do something, at least set up a 
smartphone to continuously record...I'd hate have something like this 
happen and be found at fault because I rear ended the guy...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtfWfSgyN2c

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[MBZ] Why we all need dash cameras...

Just a reminder that I've got to do something, at least set up a smartphone to 
continuously record...I'd hate have something like this happen and be found at 
fault because I rear ended the guy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtfWfSgyN2c

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Re: [MBZ] Farewell to Wilton's 300D

Appeared to be, but we weren't looking to closely.  We used a cable to cut the 
seal, hard work but got the job done.  I'm going to see about installing that 
windshield into my blue sedan, which has a cracked aftermarket windshield.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On January 28, 2017 10:29:56 PM EST, WILTON via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Was wndshield sealed well at & near upper lft corner?  Leaked
>sometimes.
>
>Wilton
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Max Dillon via Mercedes" 
>To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>Cc: "Max Dillon" 
>Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 7:45 PM
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Farewell to Wilton's 300D
>
>
>> The shell only weighed about 1200 lbs?  I think it was 3 Â¢ per
>pound.
>> -- 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
>>
>> On January 28, 2017 7:24:37 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>  wrote:
>>>$34? How much were they paying per ton? It's up to $125 here now.
>When
>>>I take cars to the crusher like this I usually wait until it's $200
>or
>>>over per ton
>>>
>>>Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Jan 28, 2017, at 6:14 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes
>>> wrote:

 Rich and I finished stripping the car, removing windshield, rear
>axle
>>>assembly, driveshaft, fuel tank.  Hauled the shell to the nearest
>>>recycler, who paid $34.

 That covered a delicious fried fish lunch at a roadside stand, and
>>>left some gas money for Rich.

 Salute!
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD
 '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question

2017-01-28 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes

+1. No leaks.

On Jan 28, 2017 6:36 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> I have one on the 300D. It eliminated all the kludgy plastic pipes and
> elbows.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jan 28, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yup. Just pointing out the reason I was unsuccessful in my part number
> search.
> >
> > Rick ‎
> >
> > But will work just fine on a 617. I have one on my 83 300TD.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Farewell to Wilton's 300D

2017-01-28 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

Makes me sad all over again.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Kaleb C. Striplin" 
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Farewell to Wilton's 300D

$34? How much were they paying per ton? It's up to $125 here now. When I 
take cars to the crusher like this I usually wait until it's $200 or over 
per ton

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 28, 2017, at 6:14 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Rich and I finished stripping the car, removing windshield, rear axle 
assembly, driveshaft, fuel tank.  Hauled the shell to the nearest 
recycler, who paid $34.

That covered a delicious fried fish lunch at a roadside stand, and left 
some gas money for Rich.

Salute!
--
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'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN - No Political Topics

2017-01-28 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes

Dan wrote:
> Enough.

Me? - did I do dat?
tin-man

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[MBZ] ADMIN - No Political Topics

Enough. That means no inferences, commentary, expression of opinions, etc.

And if you see something you think is inappropriate, it's not necessary to 
rebut it or comment. That is the responsibility of the moderators to deal with.

Please don't make us moderate members. If people can't understand what's 
appropriate and what's not, send a private message to myself or Kaleb and we'll 
be more than happy to offer guidance.

If you choose to test our interpretations, you will be moderated. Period.

Dan/List Mom

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Re: [MBZ] Farewell to Wilton's 300D

2017-01-28 Thread WILTON via Mercedes


Was wndshield sealed well at & near upper lft corner?  Leaked sometimes.

Wilton

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Max Dillon" 
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Farewell to Wilton's 300D



The shell only weighed about 1200 lbs?  I think it was 3 Â¢ per pound.
--
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On January 28, 2017 7:24:37 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:

$34? How much were they paying per ton? It's up to $125 here now. When
I take cars to the crusher like this I usually wait until it's $200 or
over per ton

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 28, 2017, at 6:14 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes

 wrote:


Rich and I finished stripping the car, removing windshield, rear axle

assembly, driveshaft, fuel tank.  Hauled the shell to the nearest
recycler, who paid $34.


That covered a delicious fried fish lunch at a roadside stand, and

left some gas money for Rich.


Salute!
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] FWIW

2017-01-28 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes

Fred wrote:
> I could just cry.

If the house is on fire, we should do something...
Probably not a mere whim that these countries were selected.
The prohibition is 90-days and then resume those countries, probably.
tin-man

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Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-28 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes

Obviously you need to find and fix the water intrusion first.  There may be
more than one leak so don't declare victory to soon.

Also the sill plate looks like it needs to be replaced, preferably with
pressure-treated lumber.  The sill plate is the piece of wood that lies flat
on the foundation (and is normally bolted to the foundation) that supports
the ends of the joists.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 3:53 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors
> 
> Ok so I just got out from under the house again. You guys are right, we do
have
> water getting in somewhere as the store wall is now damp as is the wood
area.
> I was going to try to add a piece of plywood between the outer header
board
> and the first joist but there is not enough room plus there is not
anything to
> mount it to, it's too rotted. In that section the joists are only 3 feet
long from
> the outer header plate to where the tie into a main support running the
> opposite direction. So pulling the tile up and cutting out the floor then
> replacing those 3 ft sections all the way across that section is going to
be the
> way too go, and should not be too difficult but just nasty.  It's just
going to be
> figuring out the tile that will be the deal. Probably means completely
replacing
> all the tile in the entire kitchen/formal dining area.
> 
> I need to figure out where the water is getting in. The front window is a
little
> ways away from the area and it doesn't seem like it would let that much
water
> in but maybe it's getting in there and running across to this area. It
does look
> like it needs to be caulked again around the frames. I took some more
photos
> for points of reference. The corner in question is a corner that is
between 2
> sets of windows on walls that are 90 degrees to the wall in question.



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Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question

I have one on the 300D. It eliminated all the kludgy plastic pipes and elbows.

-D

> On Jan 28, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yup. Just pointing out the reason I was unsuccessful in my part number search.
> 
> Rick ‎
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> But will work just fine on a 617. I have one on my 83 300TD.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question

Yup. Just pointing out the reason I was unsuccessful in my part number search.

Rick ‎

But will work just fine on a 617. I have one on my 83 300TD.

Manfred

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Re: [MBZ] FWIW


I thought political posts were verboten.

I'll sell you a genuine MB shop towel to cry on.  It is very nice!   $10

FWIW: the US of A has been most generous, taking in people from all over 
the globe, who want to become Americans, and who believe in the American 
Dream.   The last 2 phrases are critical.


We have NO obligation to take in those who want to take over the country.

There is NO other country in the history of mankind that has been so 
generous as the US of A!


Cry on.


Fred Moir via Mercedes 
January 28, 2017 at 8:08 PM


I could just cry.


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.
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Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors


Yep!

you might try running it around the edge of the tiles to see it they 
will pop up as Grant suggested.   BUt it is good for cutting right up to 
the wall.


When you are finished cutting stuff out, be sure to span the joist 
spaces where the patch will meet the old subfloor with blocking so the 
subfloor does not flex between the joints.  (the tongue and grove in the 
sbfloot is supposed to do this in new installation.)



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
January 28, 2017 at 6:44 PM
Is this the sort of saw you are talking about?


http://www.harborfreight.com/power-tools/oscillating-tools/variable-speed-oscillating-multi-tool-63111.html 






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[MBZ] FWIW

2017-01-28 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes

 "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, 
the wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the 
golden door!"


I could just cry.


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Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

That's the best one to get. You can vary the speed on it and
sometimes that helps to do a better job.

Manfred

Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Is this the sort of saw you are talking about?

http://www.harborfreight.com/power-tools/oscillating-tools/variable-speed-oscillating-multi-tool-63111.html

On 1/28/2017 2:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
This is the best idea I have heard so far. Can you share a link to
this HF saw you are talking about?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 28, 2017, at 2:24 PM, G Mann via Mercedes
wrote:

I would look at doing the whole job from the top side, instead of
trying to
lay on my back under the house, since the tile underlay boards have
failed

also.

to the underlay board. This could be done in such a way to preserve the
tile and reuse it. There is a blade that will go under the tile and
vibrate/cut the grout, thus releasing a row.

you to cut right up to the drywall of the sidewall, without damaging the
drywall.. I've done this using a 6 inch drywall knife behind the
flush cut
blade to keep it off the drywall surface. A piece of flat sheet metal
would

do the same. The drywall knife just has a handy handle to move it along
with the saw.

With a working opening, from the top side, sectioning out the damaged
joist, and sistering in fresh wood with screwed and glued plates
would be

"easy peasy"...

Cut a new piece of underlay board to fit the surgery hole.. screw it
to the
"now fresh joists" and relay the tile you just salvaged... even the
broken

tile would re-lay with solid floor under it.. there might be a hairline
crack, but I would Gorillia glue the pieces together, and lay it.. match
the grout..done and dusted..

Saws are on sale often at Harbor Freight.. $40 or less..

On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Craig via Mercedes

wrote:

On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 14:17:10 -0500 (EST) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
wrote:

On January 27, 2017 at 6:27 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
wrote:

The joists themselves are fine except on the very end.
Then I'd cut out all the rot, leaving only 100% solid wood, and run
TWO

replacement joists, one nailed and glued on each side of the rotted
ones, with 2' of overlap, so it goes from solid original joist, to
triple joist, to double joist at the end. If it's only rotted for a
few

feet at the end, materials for the double reinforcement shouldn't cost
much.

An excellent idea!

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question


But will work just fine on a 617. I have one on my 83 300TD.

Manfred

Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Thank you!
300SD part

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question

2017-01-28 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes

6170180182

Originally for 300SD


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



From: Mercedes  on behalf of Rick Knoble via 
Mercedes 
Sent: 28 January 2017 16:02
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Rick Knoble
Subject: [MBZ] Part Number Question

Anyone know what the PN is for this?



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Re: [MBZ] Farewell to Wilton's 300D

The shell only weighed about 1200 lbs?  I think it was 3 ¢ per pound.
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On January 28, 2017 7:24:37 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>$34? How much were they paying per ton? It's up to $125 here now. When
>I take cars to the crusher like this I usually wait until it's $200 or
>over per ton
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 28, 2017, at 6:14 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> Rich and I finished stripping the car, removing windshield, rear axle
>assembly, driveshaft, fuel tank.  Hauled the shell to the nearest
>recycler, who paid $34.
>> 
>> That covered a delicious fried fish lunch at a roadside stand, and
>left some gas money for Rich.
>> 
>> Salute!
>> -- 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

Is this the sort of saw you are talking about?

http://www.harborfreight.com/power-tools/oscillating-tools/variable-speed-oscillating-multi-tool-63111.html

On 1/28/2017 2:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

This is the best idea I have heard so far. Can you share a link to this HF saw
you are talking about?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 28, 2017, at 2:24 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

I would look at doing the whole job from the top side, instead of trying to
lay on my back under the house, since the tile underlay boards have failed
also.

Harbor Freight sells a nice [cheap is nice when it works] flush cut
vibrating saw with all kinds of different blades. I would use one of those
with the grout cut blade to section the tile back far enough to gain access
to the underlay board. This could be done in such a way to preserve the
tile and reuse it. There is a blade that will go under the tile and
vibrate/cut the grout, thus releasing a row.

From that space, use the flush cut blade [you'll see what they are when you
see them] to cut the underlay board out [in pieces if need be] which will
then give you access to the floor joists. The flush cut blade will allow
you to cut right up to the drywall of the sidewall, without damaging the
drywall.. I've done this using a 6 inch drywall knife behind the flush cut
blade to keep it off the drywall surface. A piece of flat sheet metal would
do the same. The drywall knife just has a handy handle to move it along
with the saw.

With a working opening, from the top side, sectioning out the damaged
joist, and sistering in fresh wood with screwed and glued plates would be
"easy peasy"...

Cut a new piece of underlay board to fit the surgery hole.. screw it to the
"now fresh joists" and relay the tile you just salvaged... even the broken
tile would re-lay with solid floor under it.. there might be a hairline
crack, but I would Gorillia glue the pieces together, and lay it.. match
the grout..done and dusted..

Saws are on sale often at Harbor Freight.. $40 or less..

On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Craig via Mercedes
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 14:17:10 -0500 (EST) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
wrote:

On January 27, 2017 at 6:27 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
wrote:

The joists themselves are fine except on the very end.

Then I'd cut out all the rot, leaving only 100% solid wood, and run TWO
replacement joists, one nailed and glued on each side of the rotted
ones, with 2' of overlap, so it goes from solid original joist, to
triple joist, to double joist at the end. If it's only rotted for a few
feet at the end, materials for the double reinforcement shouldn't cost
much.

An excellent idea!

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question

Thank you!
300SD part

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Re: [MBZ] Farewell to Wilton's 300D

$34? How much were they paying per ton? It's up to $125 here now. When I take 
cars to the crusher like this I usually wait until it's $200 or over per ton

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> 
> Rich and I finished stripping the car, removing windshield, rear axle 
> assembly, driveshaft, fuel tank.  Hauled the shell to the nearest recycler, 
> who paid $34.
> 
> That covered a delicious fried fish lunch at a roadside stand, and left some 
> gas money for Rich.
> 
> Salute!
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Re: [MBZ] physix problemz


Bartender, I'll have what he's drinking!
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[MBZ] Farewell to Wilton's 300D

Rich and I finished stripping the car, removing windshield, rear axle assembly, 
driveshaft, fuel tank.  Hauled the shell to the nearest recycler, who paid $34.

That covered a delicious fried fish lunch at a roadside stand, and left some 
gas money for Rich.

Salute!
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Re: [MBZ] Usinger elves Wuz: Alternator question

2017-01-28 Thread Russ Williams via Mercedes


Drat FF hit send too soon.
Have 4# left in the freezer for a friends Christmas trip to Chi-ka-go.

Russ W

On Sat,1/28/17 17:43, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

I finally found a couple of pictures of the original elf murals:

https://enchantedamerica.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/wisconsin-milwaukee-usingers-sausage-elf-mural.jpg 



http://www.findingjoyinallthings.com/2014_01_01_archive.html

The 5 lb bulk boxes used to have Bavarian elves all around.

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Re: [MBZ] Usinger elves Wuz: Alternator question

2017-01-28 Thread Russ Williams via Mercedes


Had Usingers Brats & Sauerkraut last Sat.


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I finally found a couple of pictures of the original elf murals:

https://enchantedamerica.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/wisconsin-milwaukee-usingers-sausage-elf-mural.jpg 



http://www.findingjoyinallthings.com/2014_01_01_archive.html

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[MBZ] Usinger elves Wuz: Alternator question


I finally found a couple of pictures of the original elf murals:

https://enchantedamerica.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/wisconsin-milwaukee-usingers-sausage-elf-mural.jpg

http://www.findingjoyinallthings.com/2014_01_01_archive.html

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Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

If the tile is unbroken now, and you can knock the grout out and cut the 
plywood out in tile sized pieces, maybe you have an excuse to buy a gas engine 
high potency pressure washer to blast the wood/mastic off the back of the tiles 
so you can reuse them?
That way you don't have to buy or cut any tile. 
 
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Alternator question

I think this is the real reason.  An alt does not need to be "flashed" 
like a generator.


But I like the Bavarian Elf story better!

Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

Another possibility is that the brushes and commutator were a bit dirty and 
spinning it cleaned them up.


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Re: [MBZ] Alternator question

I never heard of a car alternator needing remagnetizing, but it seems to happen 
a lot with portable gensets that have sat for years. I'm guessing that a car 
alternator is battery excited and not subject to this problem, maybe 
Dan/Jim/Craig could chime in here. 

Another possibility is that the brushes and commutator were a bit dirty and 
spinning it cleaned them up. 


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 280 SE on BaT

2017-01-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

A part is missing on thwe steering column. Otherwise, a RARE coupe with PW
and a s/r.  Good restoration candidate if the price doesn't get too crazy.

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Re: [MBZ] This is nice

2017-01-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

Horizon blue??

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> 7k is ok for a nice car in good shape with no major maintenance on the
> horizon.
>
> My dad hopped into the e420 at the airport the other day and said "how much
> did you pay for this car again?" I said 7k. He said "this is a lot of car
> for 7k".
>
> Feels like a steal compared to alternatives. It basically looks new from 10
> feet. Low taxes, cheap to register etc.
>
> It's almost comical to feel like I have to justify the price, given what
> people drop on new cars these days.
>
> Karl
>
> On Jan 27, 2017 4:48 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>
>
> 1978 Mercedes 300D - Amazing condition
> http://austin.craigslist.org/cto/5978437270.html
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Re: [MBZ] Alternator question

It is easy!  The bavarian elves got lost in the shipment, so it didn't 
work when first installed.  By the time you needed to move it, the elves 
had been reunited with the alt, and went back to work on demand.


(Ok, I have been thinking of the Usinger's elves and I am still laughing 
about Clay's physiks question, and Rick's answer to it.)

http://nomadicnewfies.blogspot.com/2013/07/milwaukees-usinger-sausages-mural.html
www.usinger.com   Their old website had pictures 
of the original elf murals and talked about the bavarian elves.

http://www.usinger.com/magento/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Elves.mp4
http://archive.jsonline.com/greensheet/props-unlimited-sculpts-usingers-elves-displays-local-tradition-b99557076z1-322458671.html
"A German immigrant and artist named George Peters painted murals in the 
Usinger's store depicting elves making sausage in 1906. In the 1950s, 
Usinger's began using the "Head Elf" of these murals, nicknamed 
"Fritzie," as the company's mascot."  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usinger's





Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
January 28, 2017 at 4:11 PM
I don't remember if I mentioned it but the alternator quit in my '98 
Jetta on the way home from work Wednesday.Today I picked up and 
installed a used one, PITA job, the engine bay is tight and I think 
the alternator was probably original at 279,000 miles. These have an 
interesting one way clutch that I had to transfer to the replacement, 
glad I ordered the tool to remove it...
Anyway when I got it all installed it didn't work, the idiot light was 
still on and battery voltage measured around 12.5v. I was pretty 
defeated at that point. A little later I had to move the car so I 
could push some snow (well ice really) off the driveway, the first 
time I revved the engine the light went out...Not to look a gift horse 
in the mouth I used the car to go over to the park to walk the dog, 
idiot light stayed out, heater fan ran, seat heater on.
When I got home I put the meter on with the engine running, 14.8v just 
like you'd expect.
Is this something I should have expected? I don't remember going 
through this before but its been a few years since I've changed an 
alternator.

-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Alternator question

2017-01-28 Thread Kyle Arola via Mercedes

Probably a tired exciter circuit... You got it a little hot and bothered
and all is good with her now...

Happy for you!

Now if my rear diff leak settles out We can both be happy! Hahaha!

Kyle

On Jan 28, 2017 5:11 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> I don't remember if I mentioned it but the alternator quit in my '98 Jetta
> on the way home from work Wednesday.Today I picked up and installed a used
> one, PITA job, the engine bay is tight and I think the alternator was
> probably original at 279,000 miles. These have an interesting one way
> clutch that I had to transfer to the replacement, glad I ordered the tool
> to remove it...
> Anyway when I got it all installed it didn't work, the idiot light was
> still on and battery voltage measured around 12.5v. I was pretty defeated
> at that point. A little later I had to move the car so I could push some
> snow (well ice really) off the driveway, the first time I revved the engine
> the light went out...Not to look a gift horse in the mouth I used the car
> to go over to the park to walk the dog, idiot light stayed out, heater fan
> ran, seat heater on.
> When I got home I put the meter on with the engine running, 14.8v just
> like you'd expect.
> Is this something I should have expected? I don't remember going through
> this before but its been a few years since I've changed an alternator.
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] physix problemz


I love it!  It makes as much sense as the albore global warming theories!


clay via Mercedes 
January 28, 2017 at 2:53 PM
OK. I got thinking about wind and weather yesterday. High pressure, 
low pressure, wind, weather, butterfly effect and crap. Homeostasis. 
Then I tossed in teleportation. You always see these folks just VANISH 
with no impact. But there should be one, right? You are displacing 
volume and mass. It leaves one place (void) and appears in another 
(explosion?) So, you make a low pressure zone and then displace in 
another. Implosion/explosion Aparate/disaparate


Could the wizards be making the weather by popping in and out of 
existence? Like maybe matter/atoms just showing up. How much of an 
impact would I create by being teleported? Take a 100 k mass, 1.78m 
tall with a circumference of maybe 60cm. I pop out of one place and 
into another. How much of a pressure drop would that involve? Since I 
change location, then my volume needs to be compensated for, so air 
flows into the void of where I was and is displaced from where I show up.


A bunch of wizards (or visiting aliens) are popping in and out of 
existence, making the surface pressure get all messed about. What 
happens if one of the aliens, because they be in space, in a ship or 
someplace which would end up INCREASING our gross inflow, gets taken 
by the government and experimented upon, such that he does not return 
to his place of origin? He does not make as many landings as take 
offs. Now we have excess mass/volume and the alien place is missing an 
equal amount of dude. Is this the real root of global climate change? 
Maybe we should return the alien carcasses to where they came from.


And would you not get the bends doing this teleportation? Blood gases 
increasing and decreasing instantly must have a terrible impact. I 
know inflight discomfort from leaving a one bar place and ending up in 
a tin can with atmospheric pressure of 6000 meters, then returning to 
that 15psi situation.


clay
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Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question


6170180182 Engine Crankcase Breather Hose

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-engine-crankcase-breather-hose-connector-300sd-6170180182my

Manfred

Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Anyone know what the PN is for this?



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Re: [MBZ] physix problemz

2017-01-28 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

If you were a really good teleporter you'd swap the air from the destination 
back into the place you came from. 1 for 1, no problems...
-Curt

  From: clay via Mercedes 
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Cc: clay 
 Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 3:53 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] physix problemz

OK.  I got thinking about wind and weather yesterday.  High pressure, low 
pressure, wind, weather, butterfly effect and crap.  Homeostasis.  Then I 
tossed in teleportation.  You always see these folks just VANISH with no 
impact.  But there should be one, right?  You are displacing volume and mass.  
It leaves one place (void) and appears in another (explosion?)  So, you make a 
low pressure zone and then displace in another.  Implosion/explosion  
Aparate/disaparate  

Could the wizards be making the weather by popping in and out of existence?  
Like maybe matter/atoms just showing up.  How much of an impact would I create 
by being teleported?  Take a 100 k mass, 1.78m tall with a circumference of 
maybe 60cm.  I pop out of one place and into another.  How much of a pressure 
drop would that involve?  Since I change location, then my volume needs to be 
compensated for, so air flows into the void of where I was and is displaced 
from where I show up.  

A bunch of wizards (or visiting aliens) are popping in and out of existence,  
making the surface pressure get all messed about.  What happens if one of the 
aliens, because they be in space, in a ship or someplace which would end up 
INCREASING our gross inflow, gets taken by the government and experimented 
upon, such that he does not return to his place of origin?  He does not make as 
many landings as take offs.  Now we have excess mass/volume and the alien place 
is missing an equal amount of dude.  Is this the real root of global climate 
change?  Maybe we should return the alien carcasses to where they came from.

And would you not get the bends doing this teleportation?  Blood gases 
increasing and decreasing instantly must have a terrible impact.  I know 
inflight discomfort from leaving a one bar place and ending up in a tin can 
with atmospheric pressure of 6000 meters, then returning to that 15psi 
situation.

clay
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[MBZ] Alternator question

2017-01-28 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

I don't remember if I mentioned it but the alternator quit in my '98 Jetta on 
the way home from work Wednesday.Today I picked up and installed a used one, 
PITA job, the engine bay is tight and I think the alternator was probably 
original at 279,000 miles. These have an interesting one way clutch that I had 
to transfer to the replacement, glad I ordered the tool to remove it...
Anyway when I got it all installed it didn't work, the idiot light was still on 
and battery voltage measured around 12.5v. I was pretty defeated at that point. 
A little later I had to move the car so I could push some snow (well ice 
really) off the driveway, the first time I revved the engine the light went 
out...Not to look a gift horse in the mouth I used the car to go over to the 
park to walk the dog, idiot light stayed out, heater fan ran, seat heater on.
When I got home I put the meter on with the engine running, 14.8v just like 
you'd expect.
Is this something I should have expected? I don't remember going through this 
before but its been a few years since I've changed an alternator.
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Part Number Question

Don't recall the number, but FCP Euro has them. 

-D

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> Anyone know what the PN is for this?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] physix problemz

That would depend on how it was done. If your teleportation 
machine transplaces the same volume of air in the one place with 
you at your location then there is a lot less of a problem. The 
pressure differential in the air can be taken care of by 
transporting the full contents of a cylinder from one location to 
another with a pre transport increase or decrease of the pressure 
in the originating cylinder to match that of the arrival cylinder.


As you earthlings say easy peasy.

Manfred


Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:

Just as teleporting into a solid object would create problems, even air
would intersperse air molecules into the human body. Not a good result. It
would seem that you would have to reappear in a vacuum to avoid those
problems, but might create some other serious difficulties.

Greg

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Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 12:53 PM
To: Alexander Monroe; Harold Monroe; Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: clay
Subject: [MBZ] physix problemz

OK.  I got thinking about wind and weather yesterday.  High pressure, low
pressure, wind, weather, butterfly effect and crap.  Homeostasis.  Then I
tossed in teleportation.  You always see these folks just VANISH with no
impact.  But there should be one, right?  You are displacing volume and
mass.  It leaves one place (void) and appears in another (explosion?)  So,
you make a low pressure zone and then displace in another.
Implosion/explosion   Aparate/disaparate  


Could the wizards be making the weather by popping in and out of existence?
Like maybe matter/atoms just showing up.  How much of an impact would I
create by being teleported?  Take a 100 k mass, 1.78m tall with a
circumference of maybe 60cm.  I pop out of one place and into another.  How
much of a pressure drop would that involve?  Since I change location, then
my volume needs to be compensated for, so air flows into the void of where I
was and is displaced from where I show up.  


A bunch of wizards (or visiting aliens) are popping in and out of existence,
making the surface pressure get all messed about.  What happens if one of
the aliens, because they be in space, in a ship or someplace which would end
up INCREASING our gross inflow, gets taken by the government and
experimented upon, such that he does not return to his place of origin?   He
does not make as many landings as take offs.   Now we have excess
mass/volume and the alien place is missing an equal amount of dude.  Is this
the real root of global climate change?  Maybe we should return the alien
carcasses to where they came from.

And would you not get the bends doing this teleportation?  Blood gases
increasing and decreasing instantly must have a terrible impact.  I know
inflight discomfort from leaving a one bar place and ending up in a tin can
with atmospheric pressure of 6000 meters, then returning to that 15psi
situation.

clay
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Re: [MBZ] physix problemz

Redghost sez:

>Could the wizards be making the weather by popping in and out of existence?

Yeah. I forgot.
Weed is legal out there, isn't it?

Rick

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Re: [MBZ] physix problemz

2017-01-28 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes

Just as teleporting into a solid object would create problems, even air
would intersperse air molecules into the human body. Not a good result. It
would seem that you would have to reappear in a vacuum to avoid those
problems, but might create some other serious difficulties.

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] physix problemz

OK.  I got thinking about wind and weather yesterday.  High pressure, low
pressure, wind, weather, butterfly effect and crap.  Homeostasis.  Then I
tossed in teleportation.  You always see these folks just VANISH with no
impact.  But there should be one, right?  You are displacing volume and
mass.  It leaves one place (void) and appears in another (explosion?)  So,
you make a low pressure zone and then displace in another.
Implosion/explosion   Aparate/disaparate  

Could the wizards be making the weather by popping in and out of existence?
Like maybe matter/atoms just showing up.  How much of an impact would I
create by being teleported?  Take a 100 k mass, 1.78m tall with a
circumference of maybe 60cm.  I pop out of one place and into another.  How
much of a pressure drop would that involve?  Since I change location, then
my volume needs to be compensated for, so air flows into the void of where I
was and is displaced from where I show up.  

A bunch of wizards (or visiting aliens) are popping in and out of existence,
making the surface pressure get all messed about.  What happens if one of
the aliens, because they be in space, in a ship or someplace which would end
up INCREASING our gross inflow, gets taken by the government and
experimented upon, such that he does not return to his place of origin?   He
does not make as many landings as take offs.   Now we have excess
mass/volume and the alien place is missing an equal amount of dude.  Is this
the real root of global climate change?  Maybe we should return the alien
carcasses to where they came from.

And would you not get the bends doing this teleportation?  Blood gases
increasing and decreasing instantly must have a terrible impact.  I know
inflight discomfort from leaving a one bar place and ending up in a tin can
with atmospheric pressure of 6000 meters, then returning to that 15psi
situation.

clay
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[MBZ] Part Number Question

Anyone know what the PN is for this?



Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

This is the best idea I have heard so far. Can you share a link to this HF saw 
you are talking about?

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> On Jan 28, 2017, at 2:24 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I would look at doing the whole job from the top side, instead of trying to
> lay on my back under the house, since the tile underlay boards have failed
> also.
> 
> Harbor Freight sells a nice [cheap is nice when it works] flush cut
> vibrating saw with all kinds of different blades. I would use one of those
> with the grout cut blade to section the tile back far enough to gain access
> to the underlay board. This could be done in such a way to preserve the
> tile and reuse it. There is a blade that will go under the tile and
> vibrate/cut the grout, thus releasing a row.
> 
> From that space, use the flush cut blade [you'll see what they are when you
> see them] to cut the underlay board out [in pieces if need be] which will
> then give you access to the floor joists.  The flush cut blade will allow
> you to cut right up to the drywall of the sidewall, without damaging the
> drywall.. I've done this using a 6 inch drywall knife behind the flush cut
> blade to keep it off the drywall surface. A piece of flat sheet metal would
> do the same. The drywall knife just has a handy handle to move it along
> with the saw.
> 
> With a working opening, from the top side, sectioning out the damaged
> joist, and sistering in fresh wood with screwed and glued plates would be
> "easy peasy"...
> 
> Cut a new piece of underlay board to fit the surgery hole.. screw it to the
> "now fresh joists" and relay the tile you just salvaged... even the broken
> tile would re-lay with solid floor under it.. there might be a hairline
> crack, but I would Gorillia glue the pieces together, and lay it.. match
> the grout..done and dusted..
> 
> Saws are on sale often at Harbor Freight.. $40 or less..
> 
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 14:17:10 -0500 (EST) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
 On January 27, 2017 at 6:27 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
  wrote:
 
 The joists themselves are fine except on the very end.
>>> 
>>> Then I'd cut out all the rot, leaving only 100% solid wood, and run TWO
>>> replacement joists, one nailed and glued on each side of the rotted
>>> ones, with 2' of overlap, so it goes from solid original joist, to
>>> triple joist, to double joist at the end. If it's only rotted for a few
>>> feet at the end, materials for the double reinforcement shouldn't cost
>>> much.
>> 
>> An excellent idea!
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
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[MBZ] physix problemz

2017-01-28 Thread clay via Mercedes

OK.  I got thinking about wind and weather yesterday.  High pressure, low 
pressure, wind, weather, butterfly effect and crap.  Homeostasis.  Then I 
tossed in teleportation.  You always see these folks just VANISH with no 
impact.  But there should be one, right?  You are displacing volume and mass.  
It leaves one place (void) and appears in another (explosion?)  So, you make a 
low pressure zone and then displace in another.  Implosion/explosion   
Aparate/disaparate  

Could the wizards be making the weather by popping in and out of existence?  
Like maybe matter/atoms just showing up.  How much of an impact would I create 
by being teleported?  Take a 100 k mass, 1.78m tall with a circumference of 
maybe 60cm.  I pop out of one place and into another.  How much of a pressure 
drop would that involve?  Since I change location, then my volume needs to be 
compensated for, so air flows into the void of where I was and is displaced 
from where I show up.  

A bunch of wizards (or visiting aliens) are popping in and out of existence,  
making the surface pressure get all messed about.  What happens if one of the 
aliens, because they be in space, in a ship or someplace which would end up 
INCREASING our gross inflow, gets taken by the government and experimented 
upon, such that he does not return to his place of origin?   He does not make 
as many landings as take offs.   Now we have excess mass/volume and the alien 
place is missing an equal amount of dude.  Is this the real root of global 
climate change?  Maybe we should return the alien carcasses to where they came 
from.

And would you not get the bends doing this teleportation?  Blood gases 
increasing and decreasing instantly must have a terrible impact.  I know 
inflight discomfort from leaving a one bar place and ending up in a tin can 
with atmospheric pressure of 6000 meters, then returning to that 15psi 
situation.

clay
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Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-28 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

I would look at doing the whole job from the top side, instead of trying to
lay on my back under the house, since the tile underlay boards have failed
also.

Harbor Freight sells a nice [cheap is nice when it works] flush cut
vibrating saw with all kinds of different blades. I would use one of those
with the grout cut blade to section the tile back far enough to gain access
to the underlay board. This could be done in such a way to preserve the
tile and reuse it. There is a blade that will go under the tile and
vibrate/cut the grout, thus releasing a row.

>From that space, use the flush cut blade [you'll see what they are when you
see them] to cut the underlay board out [in pieces if need be] which will
then give you access to the floor joists.  The flush cut blade will allow
you to cut right up to the drywall of the sidewall, without damaging the
drywall.. I've done this using a 6 inch drywall knife behind the flush cut
blade to keep it off the drywall surface. A piece of flat sheet metal would
do the same. The drywall knife just has a handy handle to move it along
with the saw.

With a working opening, from the top side, sectioning out the damaged
joist, and sistering in fresh wood with screwed and glued plates would be
"easy peasy"...

Cut a new piece of underlay board to fit the surgery hole.. screw it to the
"now fresh joists" and relay the tile you just salvaged... even the broken
tile would re-lay with solid floor under it.. there might be a hairline
crack, but I would Gorillia glue the pieces together, and lay it.. match
the grout..done and dusted..

Saws are on sale often at Harbor Freight.. $40 or less..

On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 14:17:10 -0500 (EST) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> >
> > > On January 27, 2017 at 6:27 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > The joists themselves are fine except on the very end.
> >
> > Then I'd cut out all the rot, leaving only 100% solid wood, and run TWO
> > replacement joists, one nailed and glued on each side of the rotted
> > ones, with 2' of overlap, so it goes from solid original joist, to
> > triple joist, to double joist at the end. If it's only rotted for a few
> > feet at the end, materials for the double reinforcement shouldn't cost
> > much.
>
> An excellent idea!
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

2017-01-28 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 14:17:10 -0500 (EST) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> 
> > On January 27, 2017 at 6:27 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > The joists themselves are fine except on the very end.
> 
> Then I'd cut out all the rot, leaving only 100% solid wood, and run TWO
> replacement joists, one nailed and glued on each side of the rotted
> ones, with 2' of overlap, so it goes from solid original joist, to
> triple joist, to double joist at the end. If it's only rotted for a few
> feet at the end, materials for the double reinforcement shouldn't cost
> much. 

An excellent idea!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Vintage microcars

 from Blocks on the box for $1.50.

Dan




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Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors

> On January 27, 2017 at 6:27 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> The joists 
> themselves are fine except on the very end.

Then I'd cut out all the rot, leaving only 100% solid wood, and run TWO 
replacement joists, one nailed and glued on each side of the rotted ones, with 
2' of overlap, so it goes from solid original joist, to triple joist, to double 
joist at the end. If it's only rotted for a few feet at the end, materials for 
the double reinforcement shouldn't cost much. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] "Ran great when Parked" 1944 Schwimmwagen

Wow, I thought Amphicars were getting to be expensive. 
Mitch. 

> On January 27, 2017 at 11:38 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
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> 
> Wow,  pretty unreal price!
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1944-Volkswagen-Schwimmwagen-type-166-/172498180096

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Re: [MBZ] Vintage microcars

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Re: [MBZ] This is nice

2017-01-28 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes

7k is ok for a nice car in good shape with no major maintenance on the
horizon.

My dad hopped into the e420 at the airport the other day and said "how much
did you pay for this car again?" I said 7k. He said "this is a lot of car
for 7k".

Feels like a steal compared to alternatives. It basically looks new from 10
feet. Low taxes, cheap to register etc.

It's almost comical to feel like I have to justify the price, given what
people drop on new cars these days.

Karl

On Jan 27, 2017 4:48 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:



1978 Mercedes 300D - Amazing condition
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Re: [MBZ] This is nice

2017-01-28 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

I don't consider the York a negative, cools like nobody's business... Eats up a 
lot of power I guess but if you really want ice cubes its hard to beat.
-Curt

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YORK Compresser is a negative.  NA is a negative, series glow plugs are 
a negative.  Price is a negtive too.  I'll pass.

Lady gaga needs a second one!

> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> January 28, 2017 at 7:22 AM
> I do like that!  Lady Gaga price though.
>
> --FT
>
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Re: [MBZ] This is nice

I like it.

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> On Jan 28, 2017, at 7:55 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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> 
> YORK Compresser is a negative.  NA is a negative, series glow plugs are a 
> negative.  Price is a negtive too.  I'll pass.
> 
> Lady gaga needs a second one!
> 
>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>> January 28, 2017 at 7:22 AM
>> I do like that!  Lady Gaga price though.
>> 
>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] This is nice