Re: [MBZ] Old diesels made new

[clay via Mercedes]

You would need to make them all pretty.  Like new pretty.  Is there a market 
for diesel engines out your way?  We have overly paid fools who are still big 
on old cars.  Ran into one fellow who picked up a 78 300D and had no idea what 
all he had.  



> On Mar 10, 2017, at 9:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hell I guess I need to start rebuilding some of my engines.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 10, 2017, at 10:34 PM, clay via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/pts/6035447400.html
>> 
>> I am not sure what to make of this.  I do not need a motor, but these are 
>> just so pretty.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ---
>> clay
>> 
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>>> I'm looking for didn't fall out.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Old diesels made new

[clay via Mercedes]

Fellow seems to be making his living this way, so must need to make these fully 
functional or he would have very unhappy clients.  At least a smart man would.  
There is a very big off roading community that  is deeply into transplanting 
these engines into their rigs.  There is one fellow who does the transplant for 
$15k.  If a person were versed enough to do the job his own self, this would 
shave $5k from the bill.

clay



> On Mar 10, 2017, at 8:49 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 20:34:44 -0800 clay via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/pts/6035447400.html
>> 
>> I am not sure what to make of this.  I do not need a motor, but these
>> are just so pretty.
> 
> They are pretty.
> 
> How well are they rebuilt?
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] W126 Front End Rebuild

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Bushing-yes; ball joint-no.  Ball joint presses into the knuckle.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Max Dillon via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 8:50 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Max Dillon 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W126 Front End Rebuild
> 
> Pretty sure a spring compressor is required for the front.
> 
> Check the price for a new lower control arm, that should have mounted new
> ball joint and inner bushing.   Pricey, but time saving and fewer special 
> tools
> required.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
> On March 10, 2017 8:31:12 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >SWMBO is of the opinion I need to make the 300SEL fit for handing over
> >to the oldest boy.  While I’m far from keen about this, as we all know
> >a wise man picks his battles carefully.
> >
> >Anyway, my feeling is that if this is to be, the front end needs to be
> >rebuilt before handing it over.  This serves two purposes:
> >
> >1.) To make the car pretty much 100% as far as front suspension, as the
> >boots on all the joints are gone and it’s a little noisy at times.
> >
> >2.) I have never rebuilt the front suspension on ANY Mercedes, so this
> >would be a good opportunity to do so with the blessings of the spouse.
> >
> >I’ll be researching this on the Interwebs, but of course any
> >observations, suggestions or experience that people might want to share
> >would be most welcome.  I am assuming I need to replace:
> >
> >Upper control arms
> >Lower ball joints
> >Lower control arm bushings
> >
> >The guide rods have been changed and look good and are tight, so those
> >should be OK.  Do I need to worry about the guide rod bushings/mounts?
> >How much of a nightmare is removing the ball joints?  Should I have a
> >shop press the new ones in as well as the LCA bushings?  I don’t need a
> >spring compressor as I recall - I can just separate the lower ball
> >joint and lower the arm to release the spring, correct?
> >
> >I figure I can learn how to do this on the 300SEL and then when the
> >time comes to do the 350SDL it will be that much easier.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >-D
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Re: [MBZ] Old diesels made new

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Hell I guess I need to start rebuilding some of my engines.

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> On Mar 10, 2017, at 10:34 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/pts/6035447400.html
> 
> I am not sure what to make of this.  I do not need a motor, but these are 
> just so pretty.
> 
> 
> 
> ---
> clay
> 
>> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm 
>> looking for didn't fall out.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] W126 Front End Rebuild

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

The lower ball joint is pressed into the steering knuckle, not the LCA.
You do need a spring compressor to remove the LCA (e.g. to replace the camber 
bushing) but you can do everything else without removing the LCA.  The shock 
will hold the extended LCA against the spring but also support it with 
something below.
To remove the lower ball joint, completely remove the steering knuckle, chuck 
it in a big vice, and beat the ball joint out with a hammer (4 lb or bigger).
The upper ball joint is replaced as an assembly, in a fairly obvious way.  Be 
careful not to break the end off the sway bar.
There is a special $300+ tool to press in a new ball joint without damaging it. 
 I never used one.
There is also a $100 tool (sold on ebay) that will press in a new ball joint 
but you also need a shop press (like this: 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-W213-W126-W220-Ball-Joint-Installer-Tool-/252781843579?
 ).  
This ebay tool worked well for me.  
Some have reported success with the free FLAPS ball joint tool, but I have 
doubts about doing that without damage.
You'll need a couple of types of ball joint separators to get the knuckle off 
without damage.  
Torque the LCA camber bushings and UCA chassis bushings with weight on wheels 
to avoid stressing the rubber.
Obviously, wheels, brakes, calipers, etc. have to be removed as the first step 
to get to the knuckle.
If brake disks or wheel bearings need to be replaced, do that while the hub is 
off.  
Have fresh wheel bearing grease on hand.
I haven't done the guide rod bushings but I hear it's a hard job because of 
corrosion.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
> Penoff via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 8:31 PM
> To: Mercedes List 
> Cc: Dan Penoff 
> Subject: [MBZ] W126 Front End Rebuild
> 
> SWMBO is of the opinion I need to make the 300SEL fit for handing over to the
> oldest boy.  While I’m far from keen about this, as we all know a wise man
> picks his battles carefully.
> 
> Anyway, my feeling is that if this is to be, the front end needs to be rebuilt
> before handing it over.  This serves two purposes:
> 
> 1.) To make the car pretty much 100% as far as front suspension, as the boots
> on all the joints are gone and it’s a little noisy at times.
> 
> 2.) I have never rebuilt the front suspension on ANY Mercedes, so this would
> be a good opportunity to do so with the blessings of the spouse.
> 
> I’ll be researching this on the Interwebs, but of course any observations,
> suggestions or experience that people might want to share would be most
> welcome.  I am assuming I need to replace:
> 
> Upper control arms
> Lower ball joints
> Lower control arm bushings
> 
> The guide rods have been changed and look good and are tight, so those
> should be OK.  Do I need to worry about the guide rod bushings/mounts?
> How much of a nightmare is removing the ball joints?  Should I have a shop
> press the new ones in as well as the LCA bushings?  I don’t need a spring
> compressor as I recall - I can just separate the lower ball joint and lower 
> the
> arm to release the spring, correct?
> 
> I figure I can learn how to do this on the 300SEL and then when the time
> comes to do the 350SDL it will be that much easier.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Old diesels made new

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 20:34:44 -0800 clay via Mercedes
 wrote:

> https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/pts/6035447400.html
> 
> I am not sure what to make of this.  I do not need a motor, but these
> are just so pretty.

They are pretty.

How well are they rebuilt?


Craig

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[MBZ] Old diesels made new

[clay via Mercedes]

https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/pts/6035447400.html

I am not sure what to make of this.  I do not need a motor, but these are just 
so pretty.



---
clay

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> looking for didn't fall out.





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Re: [MBZ] W126 Front End Rebuild

[clay via Mercedes]

I have wonderings about oldest boys.  Dads know how to make car things better, 
but end up not getting ear time.   #1 boy put his w140 out of commission, so 
SWMBA decided his car was evil and he needed a “better” car.  Benz is bad.  The 
solution is to purchase a “benz” built Jeep for mucho dollars.

Now #1 boy does no inspections or updates on his “new” car, just drives it, as 
if it is blessed and perfect because SWMBA had her way.  Instead, the jeep was 
not taken car of by PO, and it dies after driving from ND to SEA.  I haul his 
butt to ND in a 30 year old Benz.  Then I drive his 10 year old benz built Jeep 
to ND, and my 30 year old Evil car back another 1252 miles.  SWMBA foots the 
repair bill for the jeep.

Flash to two days ago.   Oldest boy calls to find out if he can make a fix 
because he was not holding the door in 50 MPH gales and the driver door went 
sproing! as it tried to become a wing instead of a door.  Now it does not align 
properly and all is sad.  I told him to get an estimate from a body shop.  
Which was really expensive, so he should just use BFH to smack the metal back 
to a manner that will allow the door to fit right once again.  A bit of a 
hillbilly fix, but cheaper than asking SWMBA for more cash.

Had the boy just spent a few grand to make the w140 roll again, it would have 
been so much more economical.  All it needs to run properly is a fresh wire 
harness instead of the biodegradable original and toss in the dang head gasket, 
which would deal with leakage.  And, have a shop build him a replacement 
radiator for the one -40 made bad.




> On Mar 10, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Why do we need to hand anything over to the oldest boy? What is the oldest 
> boy driving now? 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2017, at 7:31 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> SWMBO is of the opinion I need to make the 300SEL fit for handing over to 
>> the oldest boy.  While I’m far from keen about this, as we all know a wise 
>> man picks his battles carefully.
>> 
>> Anyway, my feeling is that if this is to be, the front end needs to be 
>> rebuilt before handing it over.  This serves two purposes:
>> 
>> 1.) To make the car pretty much 100% as far as front suspension, as the 
>> boots on all the joints are gone and it’s a little noisy at times.
>> 
>> 2.) I have never rebuilt the front suspension on ANY Mercedes, so this would 
>> be a good opportunity to do so with the blessings of the spouse.
>> 
>> I’ll be researching this on the Interwebs, but of course any observations, 
>> suggestions or experience that people might want to share would be most 
>> welcome.  I am assuming I need to replace:
>> 
>> Upper control arms
>> Lower ball joints
>> Lower control arm bushings
>> 
>> The guide rods have been changed and look good and are tight, so those 
>> should be OK.  Do I need to worry about the guide rod bushings/mounts?  How 
>> much of a nightmare is removing the ball joints?  Should I have a shop press 
>> the new ones in as well as the LCA bushings?  I don’t need a spring 
>> compressor as I recall - I can just separate the lower ball joint and lower 
>> the arm to release the spring, correct?
>> 
>> I figure I can learn how to do this on the 300SEL and then when the time 
>> comes to do the 350SDL it will be that much easier.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> -D 

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Re: [MBZ] OT flat screen erratic (in)op

[clay via Mercedes]

I got stuck in the middle of monitor prices and bad chinese capacitors a few 
years ago.  Monitor prices had yet to drop in a manner that made replacing the 
thing economical.  The monitor was a 22” back when that meant something.  I 
found a shop that still repaired TV sets and he had piles of large screen TV 
with bum capacitors.  I dropped the monitor off, came back in two days and left 
$100 lighter in the wallet.  Today, I would just donate the thing to the 
electronics recycler and go fetch another monitor

clay.  


> On Mar 9, 2017, at 11:22 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I would bet on capacitor(s) being bad. I have the same unit except smaller 
> that started having similar problems. Took it apart and replaced capacitors 
> with used capacitors since RS didn't have the right size. Worked fine for 
> several months and then misbehaved again. If I remember to buy correct size 
> caps next time in a big town, they might fix it unless something else is 
> destroying the caps.
> A number of years ago a Chinese company that normally produced good caps, 
> sold millions to various oriental manufacturers, and they went bad in a 
> matter of months to years.
> I had an HP printer go bad in less than a year which was probably bad caps, 
> but low priced printers are hardly worth fixing, so I just bought a different 
> one.
> Cap gets hot, electrolyte vaporizes, cap quits working, unit cools down, 
> electrolyte cools, cap starts working, electrolyte boils again, unit quits 
> workingk, etc., etc.; or something like that IIRC.
> Gerry
> ~~
>> My dad had this fairly nice Samsung flat screen, it is maybe 5yo, that 
>> started acting funky.  It comes on OK but then the picture cuts in and 
>> out, then out after a less than a minute.  Turning off then back on it 
>> will come back but then cuts out again.  So it "works" but doesn't keep 
>> working.  Not sure what that would indicate.  He had it on like 16hr/day 
>> so it got a workout, I'm wondering if some components just got baked and 
>> once it warms up a bit they quit doing whatever they do.  I would take 
>> it apart and pull the main board just to see if it needs to be cleaned 
>> or reseated or something, i guess that would be easy enough to do. Has 
>> anyone ever messed with these things or are they basically disposable?
>> --FT
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[MBZ] Making Allen Happy

[clay via Mercedes]

I finally have a dry enough day and some time on my hands, so I gave Allen some 
love.

I really want to get the passenger side window regulator out, but the motor 
does not spin, and the thing is not fitting out the hole.  After mucking about 
for an hour I gave up and bolted it back in.

I had done an oil change last week at the same time I had done Polei.  The trip 
to ND in Polei made a bit of a new oil leak show up on the return trip.I 
think it is the turbo oil return, as the underside of the car was completely 
coated in sludge.  I had her on ramps yesterday to clean her belly.

Today, Allen got to ride the ramps.  The engine area was a little bit oil 
encrusted, but not at all bad.  I sprayed it up with Oil Eater and rinsed it.  
Most of the gunk came off, but there was enough that I gave it a spray it some 
engine cleaner to be extra cleaner.

The rear is a disaster.  The transmission does not look like it is leaking, as 
there was no indication of wet.  The drive line and the whole rear was deeply 
encrusted with baked on black sludge.  As part of the filter/fluid update, I 
had to scrape the gunk off the differential to even find the fill and drain.  A 
quart of oil eater did loosen a bunch of the crud, but not all.  That is going 
to take a steam wash.

I did get the diff opened up and drained.  The fluid was BLACK and thick as 
molasses.  It smelled rank.  Like five day old burnt meatloaf.  I pumped a few 
ounces of fresh gear oil in to help flush the nasty goo.  Once it was more 
clean than dirty, I went ahead and filled her up.   I might revisit the pumpkin 
in a few thousand miles to do a refresh.

As part of the collection of spare parts that came with the car was a 1981 
cluster.  The one in the car was not 100%, with non functional odometer or 
clock.  The tach was jiggly as well.  The replacement cluster has 425k on the 
clock, the original has 320k, and an unknown number of miles more.  I pulled  
the cluster and pulled it apart to see what was going on.  Oh, and the lights 
did not come on.

The original odo had eaten gears.  It must have gotten stuck and just ground 
all the teeth off the little wheel and ate the teeth on the big gear where the 
little one died.  Fresh bulbs after doing the silver tape upgrade trick, and 
jumpered the rheostat.  The clocks were both functional once I got 12v to them. 
 For some reason there is no 12v getting to the cluster for the clock plug.  
Now I have a functional enough cluster, so I can measure miles.

And then, I noticed that the wiper arms did not look right.  I checked the way 
they are on Polei, and Allen had arms that were  in need of switching places.  
Got that done.  Not much in the way of Martha, but I took a razor scraper to 
the trunk lid and removed most of the clear coat.  I am not sure I have a grip 
on paint fix just yet.


clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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Re: [MBZ] W126 Front End Rebuild

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I do. Can you use them on the W126?

Thanks!

-D

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> On Mar 10, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dan sez:
> 
>> I figure I can learn how to do this on the >300SEL and then when the time 
>> comes to >do the 350SDL it will be that much >easier.
> 
> The only two cents I can add, is that front end work is simple, but bull 
> work. Without air tools, BFH, and lots of elbow grease, it is no fun. Buy OE 
> or‎ OEM parts. You do NOT want to be doing this job on the same car again in 
> a year. I was under the impression you had a Klann copy spring compressor. 
> Maybe that is Rich or Floyd now. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Seems to be a US car with rare velour interior, green on green

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 19:34:30 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> Needs replacement front seats though 
> 
> 1985 Mercedes 300d
> http://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/6037788131.html

Driver and passenger seats not Mercedes, but fantastic seats that could
be re-upholstered.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] W126 Front End Rebuild

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Dan sez:

> I figure I can learn how to do this on the >300SEL and then when the time 
> comes to >do the 350SDL it will be that much >easier.

The only two cents I can add, is that front end work is simple, but bull work. 
Without air tools, BFH, and lots of elbow grease, it is no fun. Buy OE or‎ OEM 
parts. You do NOT want to be doing this job on the same car again in a year. I 
was under the impression you had a Klann copy spring compressor. Maybe that is 
Rich or Floyd now. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] W126 Front End Rebuild

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

We modified a ball joint tool to press the lower joints in.  Big PITA, my 
friend with a shop used to keep a pair of lower control arms in stock and swap 
them, then send the bad ones off to a shop in Indianapolis to trade them.  
Since we made the tool, we do them occasionally for him.

Out is easy, a stout vise and a drift and large hammer works just fine.  In is 
a pain and cannot be done without a special tool, homemade or otherwise.  

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] W126 Front End Rebuild

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’m going to check them this weekend and see what kind of shape they’re in.  If 
they’re still tight I might go the new boot and grease route.  That would mean 
I would still have to break everything apart, but I wouldn’t have to replace 
the joint.

-D





> On Mar 10, 2017, at 9:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes unless you have the factory tool. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2017, at 7:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I might be able to get away with just doing the upper control arms and ball 
>> joints.  The LCA bushings aren’t that bad.
>> 
>> Looks like the upper can be done on the car, but the steering knuckle has to 
>> come off for the lower?
>> 
>> -D
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] W126 Front End Rebuild

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes unless you have the factory tool. 

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> On Mar 10, 2017, at 7:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I might be able to get away with just doing the upper control arms and ball 
> joints.  The LCA bushings aren’t that bad.
> 
> Looks like the upper can be done on the car, but the steering knuckle has to 
> come off for the lower?
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2017, at 8:49 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Pretty sure a spring compressor is required for the front.
>> 
>> Check the price for a new lower control arm, that should have mounted new 
>> ball joint and inner bushing.   Pricey, but time saving and fewer special 
>> tools required.
>> -- 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] W126 Front End Rebuild

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I might be able to get away with just doing the upper control arms and ball 
joints.  The LCA bushings aren’t that bad.

Looks like the upper can be done on the car, but the steering knuckle has to 
come off for the lower?

-D


> On Mar 10, 2017, at 8:49 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Pretty sure a spring compressor is required for the front.
> 
> Check the price for a new lower control arm, that should have mounted new 
> ball joint and inner bushing.   Pricey, but time saving and fewer special 
> tools required.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 


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Re: [MBZ] W126 Front End Rebuild

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Why do we need to hand anything over to the oldest boy? What is the oldest boy 
driving now? 

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> On Mar 10, 2017, at 7:31 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> SWMBO is of the opinion I need to make the 300SEL fit for handing over to the 
> oldest boy.  While I’m far from keen about this, as we all know a wise man 
> picks his battles carefully.
> 
> Anyway, my feeling is that if this is to be, the front end needs to be 
> rebuilt before handing it over.  This serves two purposes:
> 
> 1.) To make the car pretty much 100% as far as front suspension, as the boots 
> on all the joints are gone and it’s a little noisy at times.
> 
> 2.) I have never rebuilt the front suspension on ANY Mercedes, so this would 
> be a good opportunity to do so with the blessings of the spouse.
> 
> I’ll be researching this on the Interwebs, but of course any observations, 
> suggestions or experience that people might want to share would be most 
> welcome.  I am assuming I need to replace:
> 
> Upper control arms
> Lower ball joints
> Lower control arm bushings
> 
> The guide rods have been changed and look good and are tight, so those should 
> be OK.  Do I need to worry about the guide rod bushings/mounts?  How much of 
> a nightmare is removing the ball joints?  Should I have a shop press the new 
> ones in as well as the LCA bushings?  I don’t need a spring compressor as I 
> recall - I can just separate the lower ball joint and lower the arm to 
> release the spring, correct?
> 
> I figure I can learn how to do this on the 300SEL and then when the time 
> comes to do the 350SDL it will be that much easier.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] W126 Front End Rebuild

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Pretty sure a spring compressor is required for the front.

Check the price for a new lower control arm, that should have mounted new ball 
joint and inner bushing.   Pricey, but time saving and fewer special tools 
required.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 10, 2017 8:31:12 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>SWMBO is of the opinion I need to make the 300SEL fit for handing over
>to the oldest boy.  While I’m far from keen about this, as we all know
>a wise man picks his battles carefully.
>
>Anyway, my feeling is that if this is to be, the front end needs to be
>rebuilt before handing it over.  This serves two purposes:
>
>1.) To make the car pretty much 100% as far as front suspension, as the
>boots on all the joints are gone and it’s a little noisy at times.
>
>2.) I have never rebuilt the front suspension on ANY Mercedes, so this
>would be a good opportunity to do so with the blessings of the spouse.
>
>I’ll be researching this on the Interwebs, but of course any
>observations, suggestions or experience that people might want to share
>would be most welcome.  I am assuming I need to replace:
>
>Upper control arms
>Lower ball joints
>Lower control arm bushings
>
>The guide rods have been changed and look good and are tight, so those
>should be OK.  Do I need to worry about the guide rod bushings/mounts? 
>How much of a nightmare is removing the ball joints?  Should I have a
>shop press the new ones in as well as the LCA bushings?  I don’t need a
>spring compressor as I recall - I can just separate the lower ball
>joint and lower the arm to release the spring, correct?
>
>I figure I can learn how to do this on the 300SEL and then when the
>time comes to do the 350SDL it will be that much easier.
>
>Thanks,
>
>-D
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[MBZ] Seems to be a US car with rare velour interior, green on green

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Needs replacement front seats though 

1985 Mercedes 300d
http://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/6037788131.html

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Re: [MBZ] 1981 Mercedes 280E parts car $500

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 19:09:04 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> 
> 
> 1981 Mercedes 280E parts car
> http://littlerock.craigslist.org/cto/6025929325.html

The body looks nice. Perhaps transplant an OM617.912?


Craig

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[MBZ] W126 Front End Rebuild

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

SWMBO is of the opinion I need to make the 300SEL fit for handing over to the 
oldest boy.  While I’m far from keen about this, as we all know a wise man 
picks his battles carefully.

Anyway, my feeling is that if this is to be, the front end needs to be rebuilt 
before handing it over.  This serves two purposes:

1.) To make the car pretty much 100% as far as front suspension, as the boots 
on all the joints are gone and it’s a little noisy at times.

2.) I have never rebuilt the front suspension on ANY Mercedes, so this would be 
a good opportunity to do so with the blessings of the spouse.

I’ll be researching this on the Interwebs, but of course any observations, 
suggestions or experience that people might want to share would be most 
welcome.  I am assuming I need to replace:

Upper control arms
Lower ball joints
Lower control arm bushings

The guide rods have been changed and look good and are tight, so those should 
be OK.  Do I need to worry about the guide rod bushings/mounts?  How much of a 
nightmare is removing the ball joints?  Should I have a shop press the new ones 
in as well as the LCA bushings?  I don’t need a spring compressor as I recall - 
I can just separate the lower ball joint and lower the arm to release the 
spring, correct?

I figure I can learn how to do this on the 300SEL and then when the time comes 
to do the 350SDL it will be that much easier.

Thanks,

-D
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[MBZ] 1981 Mercedes 280E parts car $500

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

1981 Mercedes 280E parts car
http://littlerock.craigslist.org/cto/6025929325.html

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Re: [MBZ] I want

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On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 17:25:19 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Actually.. I have quite a lot of time firing those guns.. and they have
> virtually zero recoil.. the barrels rotate and cool so each barrel
> fires, then takes a turn, which allows incredible high rate of fire.. A
> 1 minute burst would put a bullet in every square inch of a football
> field.. for example.

It's interesting that the Air Force version, mounted on planes, has a
firing rate 2-3x that of the Army version, mounted on ground vehicles,
because they are forced air cooled by the slipstream.

During the Vietnam conflict, the F4 pilots would find a train in the
North and, when it was on a long stretch of straight track, zoom down at
either the front or back, start the cannon, and pull up, putting a 20 mm
HE round at least one per car.


> I think the pic is of a "for show" piece that was built "just for fun".
> But, as you say.. neat pic.

Indeed.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] I want

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Actually.. I have quite a lot of time firing those guns.. and they have
virtually zero recoil.. the barrels rotate and cool so each barrel fires,
then takes a turn, which allows incredible high rate of fire.. A 1 minute
burst would put a bullet in every square inch of a football field.. for
example.

I think the pic is of a "for show" piece that was built "just for fun".
But, as you say.. neat pic.

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 4:02 PM, fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > G wrote:
>
> > ​This track configuration, with drive motors mounted high,
> > should give true "4x4" for your camera, wifi reporting, guard
> > machine. And your vast estate will be covered... and you'll have
> > fun building more than one.. ;))
>
> Hmm.  That's a lot of firepower.
>
> Does he ever actually fire those guns?  I think the recoil would
> throw him and the "chair" on it's back.
>
> Cool picture, thought. :)
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Re: [MBZ] I want

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> G wrote:

> ​This track configuration, with drive motors mounted high,
> should give true "4x4" for your camera, wifi reporting, guard
> machine. And your vast estate will be covered... and you'll have
> fun building more than one.. ;))

Hmm.  That's a lot of firepower.

Does he ever actually fire those guns?  I think the recoil would
throw him and the "chair" on it's back.

Cool picture, thought. :)

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Re: [MBZ] 123 weirdness

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 07 Mar 2017 16:37:52 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> But Scott has the outlook virus with its .pst files

Well, then, use Thunderbird to import .pst files and change them into
MBOX format. Then you can use Sylpheed to import MBOX files and change
them into MH format.


> > Craig via Mercedes 
> > March 7, 2017 at 4:16 PM
> > On Tue, 07 Mar 2017 15:07:36 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes
> >
> > Or you can use Sylpheed for free forever.
> >
> > http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/
> >
> > It can import from the MH, MBOX, and EML formats.

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Re: [MBZ] OT flat screen erratic (in)op

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 13:52:10 -0600 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Or you can use a pencil to push on the circuit board (with the erasor 
> end) which will flex the board a little bit and that may trigger the 
> problem if you get close to the bad spot, which may help you narrow the 
> search somewhat.

> On 10/03/2017 1:30 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
> > If it's a bad solder joint opening under heat, you can sometimes
> > observe a small spark when it opens if you stare at it in a darkened
> > room.

Both good ideas!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT flat screen erratic (in)op

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Or you can use a pencil to push on the circuit board (with the erasor 
end) which will flex the board a little bit and that may trigger the 
problem if you get close to the bad spot, which may help you narrow the 
search somewhat.


RB


On 10/03/2017 1:30 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:

If it's a bad solder joint opening under heat, you can sometimes observe a
small spark when it opens if you stare at it in a darkened room.


-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Floyd
Thursby via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 10:04 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Floyd Thursby 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT flat screen erratic (in)op

That is what I was thinking too, something like that gets hot and goes
off.  I need to open it up, clean it, and see what might be apparent.

--FT


On 3/10/17 2:22 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

I would bet on capacitor(s) being bad. I have the same unit except

smaller that started having similar problems. Took it apart and replaced
capacitors with used capacitors since RS didn't have the right size.
Worked fine for several months and then misbehaved again. If I remember
to buy correct size caps next time in a big town, they might fix it
unless something else is destroying the caps.

A number of years ago a Chinese company that normally produced good

caps, sold millions to various oriental manufacturers, and they went bad
in a matter of months to years.

I had an HP printer go bad in less than a year which was probably bad

caps, but low priced printers are hardly worth fixing, so I just bought a
different one.

Cap gets hot, electrolyte vaporizes, cap quits working, unit cools

down, electrolyte cools, cap starts working, electrolyte boils again,
unit quits workingk, etc., etc.; or something like that IIRC.

Gerry
~~

My dad had this fairly nice Samsung flat screen, it is maybe 5yo,
that started acting funky.  It comes on OK but then the picture cuts
in and out, then out after a less than a minute.  Turning off then
back on it will come back but then cuts out again.  So it "works" but
doesn't keep working.  Not sure what that would indicate.  He had it
on like 16hr/day so it got a workout, I'm wondering if some
components just got baked and once it warms up a bit they quit doing
whatever they do.  I would take it apart and pull the main board just
to see if it needs to be cleaned or reseated or something, i guess
that would be easy enough to do. Has anyone ever messed with these

things or are they basically disposable?

--FT

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"Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good
sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
the enemy."


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Re: [MBZ] OT flat screen erratic (in)op

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

If it's a bad solder joint opening under heat, you can sometimes observe a
small spark when it opens if you stare at it in a darkened room.  

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Floyd
> Thursby via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 10:04 AM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: Floyd Thursby 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT flat screen erratic (in)op
> 
> That is what I was thinking too, something like that gets hot and goes
> off.  I need to open it up, clean it, and see what might be apparent.
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
> On 3/10/17 2:22 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> > I would bet on capacitor(s) being bad. I have the same unit except
> smaller that started having similar problems. Took it apart and replaced
> capacitors with used capacitors since RS didn't have the right size.
> Worked fine for several months and then misbehaved again. If I remember
> to buy correct size caps next time in a big town, they might fix it
> unless something else is destroying the caps.
> > A number of years ago a Chinese company that normally produced good
> caps, sold millions to various oriental manufacturers, and they went bad
> in a matter of months to years.
> > I had an HP printer go bad in less than a year which was probably bad
> caps, but low priced printers are hardly worth fixing, so I just bought a
> different one.
> > Cap gets hot, electrolyte vaporizes, cap quits working, unit cools
> down, electrolyte cools, cap starts working, electrolyte boils again,
> unit quits workingk, etc., etc.; or something like that IIRC.
> > Gerry
> > ~~
> >> My dad had this fairly nice Samsung flat screen, it is maybe 5yo,
> >> that started acting funky.  It comes on OK but then the picture cuts
> >> in and out, then out after a less than a minute.  Turning off then
> >> back on it will come back but then cuts out again.  So it "works" but
> >> doesn't keep working.  Not sure what that would indicate.  He had it
> >> on like 16hr/day so it got a workout, I'm wondering if some
> >> components just got baked and once it warms up a bit they quit doing
> >> whatever they do.  I would take it apart and pull the main board just
> >> to see if it needs to be cleaned or reseated or something, i guess
> >> that would be easy enough to do. Has anyone ever messed with these
> things or are they basically disposable?
> >> --FT
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> large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good
> sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
> the enemy."
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Re: [MBZ] I want

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That's exactly the idea but maybe not sized for the fat guy (although 
some of those things at El Mercado de Wal get quite a workout).  I'm 
thinking lasers and paint ball guns at minimum, perhaps along with some 
flames.


--FT


On 3/10/17 1:03 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Here is a picture of what comes to mind for drive configuration. This
particular picture is NOT of me driving my squirrel hunting gun... honest.
;))

I presume it takes moderator blessings to post the picture.. so.. "please"?


​This track configuration, with drive motors mounted high, should give true
"4x4" for your camera, wifi reporting, guard machine. And your vast estate
will be covered... and you'll have fun building more than one.. ;))

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


These things have those little tars that are like 8" diameter, so they
don't have much ATV capability.  I like the idea of tracks, like on a T-1
Terminator.  THAT is what I want to make!

--FT


On 3/9/17 10:52 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:


Use modified snowmobile tracks and they will go anywhere.. set the bogie
wheels so the drive sprockets are configured like a D8 Cat, which will
keep
the power motors out of the dirt or wet.

On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 8:25 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Are those the kind with 24" bicycle type tars or the kind with 4 itty

bitty uns that need pavement or near paved conditions?  I'd think the 24"
type run backwards, with self righting and skid-plates for the two
trailing
wheels would do better in the timber and swamps.

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 


March 9, 2017 at 3:44 PM
I have a coupla electric geezerwheelers from my parents I am thinking
with some bigger wheels would make some excellent attack bots to patrol
the
vast estate and its approaches.  Outfit with sensors, FPV cameras,
lasers
(a 1.6W laser diode could do some damage), projectile projectors (solid
or
liquid or flame), hailing devices... the possibilities are endless.

Time

--FT



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large or petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
the enemy.”


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petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”

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Re: [MBZ] I want

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Here is a picture of what comes to mind for drive configuration. This
particular picture is NOT of me driving my squirrel hunting gun... honest.
;))

I presume it takes moderator blessings to post the picture.. so.. "please"?


​This track configuration, with drive motors mounted high, should give true
"4x4" for your camera, wifi reporting, guard machine. And your vast estate
will be covered... and you'll have fun building more than one.. ;))

On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 8:02 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> These things have those little tars that are like 8" diameter, so they
> don't have much ATV capability.  I like the idea of tracks, like on a T-1
> Terminator.  THAT is what I want to make!
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 3/9/17 10:52 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Use modified snowmobile tracks and they will go anywhere.. set the bogie
>> wheels so the drive sprockets are configured like a D8 Cat, which will
>> keep
>> the power motors out of the dirt or wet.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 8:25 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Are those the kind with 24" bicycle type tars or the kind with 4 itty
>>> bitty uns that need pavement or near paved conditions?  I'd think the 24"
>>> type run backwards, with self righting and skid-plates for the two
>>> trailing
>>> wheels would do better in the timber and swamps.
>>>
>>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>
 March 9, 2017 at 3:44 PM
 I have a coupla electric geezerwheelers from my parents I am thinking
 with some bigger wheels would make some excellent attack bots to patrol
 the
 vast estate and its approaches.  Outfit with sensors, FPV cameras,
 lasers
 (a 1.6W laser diode could do some damage), projectile projectors (solid
 or
 liquid or flame), hailing devices... the possibilities are endless.

 Time

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Re: [MBZ] I can't use a camera or...

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Oh give me a brake.

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> grammer
>
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>
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> On 3/10/17 11:33 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
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>> Will barter for a grammar class.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] I can't use a camera or...

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

grammer

--FT


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Will barter for a grammar class.

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Re: [MBZ] I can't use a camera or...

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Will barter for a grammar class.

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Re: [MBZ] 1980 Mercedes 240 diesel wagon $1350

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Maybe for $500 but $1350 is absurd.

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> It'd be an interesting platform to put a 1.9l VW engine into. The VE
> engine in my Jetta can be pretty easily cranked up to 150hp and its tiny.
> -Curt
>
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> Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
>  Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2017 10:55 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1980 Mercedes 240 diesel wagon $1350
>
> Now THAT is the ultimate mommyvagon/first car for kid learning to drive!
>
> Great for running kids to schools and soccer/dance/tutor/whatever around
> town.
>
> Perfect first car for kid to drive to skool.  At least as slow as a
> 240D, and even less cool!
>
> I'm thinking I should get the list-??? (I forget what his title is now,
> since he rejected listmom and pushed that title to Dan) King? Dictator?
> to buy it for me.  It would make a good platform to put an OM603 into!
>
> Being a yuro, NO ACC Manual heat!  Manual sunroof, if it has one...
> all the best parts!
>
> > Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> > March 9, 2017 at 9:38 PM
> > Wth?
> >
> > 1980 Mercedes 240 diesel wagon
> > http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/6009865746.html
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Re: [MBZ] W140

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Whatever happened to "Bud"?  Ed O'Neil is amazing in Modern Family and
Christina Applegate has starred in numerous films.

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>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Mar 9, 2017, at 9:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > OMG I had forgotten how funny and wildly inappropriate that show was.
> >
> >> On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 7:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> videos/1399352503469256/
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[MBZ] I can't use a camera or...

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

..manage punctuation:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/6037705256.html

-D

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Re: [MBZ] OT flat screen erratic (in)op

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I forgot to mention that.
The actual data rate depends on where you live, I've heard of them being as 
high as 25Mb/s.
Uncompressed 1080i would be more like 1200Mb/s...
-Curt

  From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
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 Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 10:06 AM
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Yep. Over The Air (OTA) bit rate is up to 19.38 Mb/s.

Rick
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT flat screen erratic (in)op

But but, you get twice as many frames in which to watch "Gilligan's Island"...
If you're watching cable TV you're probably seeing in the range of 6-8Mb/s 
video. Thats how they get a bazillion channels onto the one cable coming into 
your house, compress the crap out of it.
For context DVD quality is 3-6Mb/s. A 1080 screen is a bit more than 3x the 
pixel count of old NTSC but your data rate from your cable box is the same or 
just a bit more.‎
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Re: [MBZ] OT flat screen erratic (in)op

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If I recall full 1080P HD is 19.2Mbps but the stations have subchannels 
they broadcast too so that cuts the bit rate down quite a lot, even on 
the primary "HD" channel.  Some of the subchannels don't look very good.


--FT


On 3/10/17 10:06 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Yep. Over The Air (OTA) bit rate is up to 19.38 Mb/s.

Rick
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But but, you get twice as many frames in which to watch "Gilligan's Island"...
If you're watching cable TV you're probably seeing in the range of 6-8Mb/s 
video. Thats how they get a bazillion channels onto the one cable coming into 
your house, compress the crap out of it.
For context DVD quality is 3-6Mb/s. A 1080 screen is a bit more than 3x the 
pixel count of old NTSC but your data rate from your cable box is the same or 
just a bit more.‎
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Re: [MBZ] OT flat screen erratic (in)op

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Yep. Over The Air (OTA) bit rate is up to 19.38 Mb/s.

Rick
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From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes
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Cc: Curt Raymond
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT flat screen erratic (in)op

But but, you get twice as many frames in which to watch "Gilligan's Island"...
If you're watching cable TV you're probably seeing in the range of 6-8Mb/s 
video. Thats how they get a bazillion channels onto the one cable coming into 
your house, compress the crap out of it.
For context DVD quality is 3-6Mb/s. A 1080 screen is a bit more than 3x the 
pixel count of old NTSC but your data rate from your cable box is the same or 
just a bit more.‎
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Re: [MBZ] OT flat screen erratic (in)op

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That is what I was thinking too, something like that gets hot and goes 
off.  I need to open it up, clean it, and see what might be apparent.


--FT


On 3/10/17 2:22 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

I would bet on capacitor(s) being bad. I have the same unit except smaller that 
started having similar problems. Took it apart and replaced capacitors with 
used capacitors since RS didn't have the right size. Worked fine for several 
months and then misbehaved again. If I remember to buy correct size caps next 
time in a big town, they might fix it unless something else is destroying the 
caps.
A number of years ago a Chinese company that normally produced good caps, sold 
millions to various oriental manufacturers, and they went bad in a matter of 
months to years.
I had an HP printer go bad in less than a year which was probably bad caps, but 
low priced printers are hardly worth fixing, so I just bought a different one.
Cap gets hot, electrolyte vaporizes, cap quits working, unit cools down, 
electrolyte cools, cap starts working, electrolyte boils again, unit quits 
workingk, etc., etc.; or something like that IIRC.
Gerry
~~

My dad had this fairly nice Samsung flat screen, it is maybe 5yo, that
started acting funky.  It comes on OK but then the picture cuts in and
out, then out after a less than a minute.  Turning off then back on it
will come back but then cuts out again.  So it "works" but doesn't keep
working.  Not sure what that would indicate.  He had it on like 16hr/day
so it got a workout, I'm wondering if some components just got baked and
once it warms up a bit they quit doing whatever they do.  I would take
it apart and pull the main board just to see if it needs to be cleaned
or reseated or something, i guess that would be easy enough to do. Has
anyone ever messed with these things or are they basically disposable?
--FT

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Re: [MBZ] OT flat screen erratic (in)op

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

I forgot about Digikey and ECG from 20 years ago.
Good old RS. Handy parts place. Sorry to hear that. 
Thanks,
Gerry
~~~
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> You can always order caps form digikey or the like.  That is the only 
> option I've had for years.
> 
> BTW, radio junk is in bankruptcy again, and just announced more store 
> closings.   poor price/value ratio for decades.  Not company shares, 
> retail inventory.
> 
> > archer75--- via Mercedes 
> > March 10, 2017 at 1:22 AM
> > I would bet on capacitor(s) being bad. I have the same unit except 
> > smaller that started having similar problems. Took it apart and 
> > replaced capacitors with used capacitors since RS didn't have the 
> > right size. Worked fine for several months and then misbehaved again. 
> > If I remember to buy correct size caps next time in a big town, they 
> > might fix it unless something else is destroying the caps.
> > A number of years ago a Chinese company that normally produced good 
> > caps, sold millions to various oriental manufacturers, and they went 
> > bad in a matter of months to years.
> > I had an HP printer go bad in less than a year which was probably bad 
> > caps, but low priced printers are hardly worth fixing, so I just 
> > bought a different one.
> > Cap gets hot, electrolyte vaporizes, cap quits working, unit cools 
> > down, electrolyte cools, cap starts working, electrolyte boils again, 
> > unit quits workingk, etc., etc.; or something like that IIRC.
> > Gerry
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] I want

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

These things have those little tars that are like 8" diameter, so they 
don't have much ATV capability.  I like the idea of tracks, like on a 
T-1 Terminator.  THAT is what I want to make!


--FT


On 3/9/17 10:52 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Use modified snowmobile tracks and they will go anywhere.. set the bogie
wheels so the drive sprockets are configured like a D8 Cat, which will keep
the power motors out of the dirt or wet.

On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 8:25 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Are those the kind with 24" bicycle type tars or the kind with 4 itty
bitty uns that need pavement or near paved conditions?  I'd think the 24"
type run backwards, with self righting and skid-plates for the two trailing
wheels would do better in the timber and swamps.

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 

March 9, 2017 at 3:44 PM
I have a coupla electric geezerwheelers from my parents I am thinking
with some bigger wheels would make some excellent attack bots to patrol the
vast estate and its approaches.  Outfit with sensors, FPV cameras, lasers
(a 1.6W laser diode could do some damage), projectile projectors (solid or
liquid or flame), hailing devices... the possibilities are endless.

Time

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Re: [MBZ] 1980 Mercedes 240 diesel wagon $1350

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

It'd be an interesting platform to put a 1.9l VW engine into. The VE engine in 
my Jetta can be pretty easily cranked up to 150hp and its tiny.
-Curt

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Now THAT is the ultimate mommyvagon/first car for kid learning to drive!

Great for running kids to schools and soccer/dance/tutor/whatever around 
town.

Perfect first car for kid to drive to skool.  At least as slow as a 
240D, and even less cool!

I'm thinking I should get the list-??? (I forget what his title is now, 
since he rejected listmom and pushed that title to Dan) King? Dictator?  
to buy it for me.  It would make a good platform to put an OM603 into!

Being a yuro, NO ACC Manual heat!  Manual sunroof, if it has one...  
all the best parts!

> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> March 9, 2017 at 9:38 PM
> Wth?
>
> 1980 Mercedes 240 diesel wagon
> http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/6009865746.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT flat screen erratic (in)op

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

But but, you get twice as many frames in which to watch "Gilligan's Island"...
If you're watching cable TV you're probably seeing in the range of 6-8Mb/s 
video. Thats how they get a bazillion channels onto the one cable coming into 
your house, compress the crap out of it.
For context DVD quality is 3-6Mb/s. A 1080 screen is a bit more than 3x the 
pixel count of old NTSC but your data rate from your cable box is the same or 
just a bit more.
-Curt

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$300 for a 40" is a ripoff.  That one is probably "schmardt" tv = spy 
tv.  He likely does not not need the spy tv "features"  1080p or even  
720p depending on how good his eyes are is good enough.  4k is pretty 
much paying for vapor, as will the next tv vaporware will be.  6k 8k 64K 
or whatever.

> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> March 9, 2017 at 6:28 PM
> Yeah I was thinking to do that.  The thing is I saw one the same size 
> at Costco for like $300 (I think this is a 40") so it really isn't 
> worth putting much into other than a bit of time maybe.  I guess these 
> things are pretty much disposable which is both disturbing and 
> encouraging I guess...
>
> --FT
>
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT flat screen erratic (in)op

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> Mouser.com 
> 
> Caps like you never saw them.  And cheep, too. 
> -D
~~~
Ha. Panasonic, too. Those should be good.
Thanks,
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] 1980 Mercedes 240 diesel wagon $1350

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

>  .  not asking  8000  or 9000 grand  for it like the other one  on craigs 
> list with the wheel lip  moldings 

Uh, yeah.

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> On Mar 10, 2017, at 12:25 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Here is what he said:
> 
> body   300td   was replaced with a 240  power  pack   from a sedan  , has 
> steel  manual sunroof   ,   surface rust around some of the window edges  ,  
> tires are cracking   rear  windows sticking from non use  . engin and trans 
> excellent  ,all glass good  no gaping  holes as you can see  in pics . shocks 
> are  not the greatest  from sitting  .  not asking  8000  or 9000 grand  for 
> it like the other one  on craigs list with the wheel lip  moldings  hiding 
> the rust .   great old car to bring back . !
> car repainted  years  ago  dark green  . single heater control  .
> 
> So, I presume the SLS is gone.  Still ok for mommievagon/learning driver.  
> I'll pass   If it had functioning SLS, maybe
> 
> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> March 9, 2017 at 9:38 PM
>> Wth?
>> 
>> 1980 Mercedes 240 diesel wagon
>> http://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/6009865746.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT flat screen erratic (in)op

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

You can always order caps form digikey or the like.  That is the only 
option I've had for years.


BTW, radio junk is in bankruptcy again, and just announced more store 
closings.   poor price/value ratio for decades.  Not company shares, 
retail inventory.



archer75--- via Mercedes 
March 10, 2017 at 1:22 AM
I would bet on capacitor(s) being bad. I have the same unit except 
smaller that started having similar problems. Took it apart and 
replaced capacitors with used capacitors since RS didn't have the 
right size. Worked fine for several months and then misbehaved again. 
If I remember to buy correct size caps next time in a big town, they 
might fix it unless something else is destroying the caps.
A number of years ago a Chinese company that normally produced good 
caps, sold millions to various oriental manufacturers, and they went 
bad in a matter of months to years.
I had an HP printer go bad in less than a year which was probably bad 
caps, but low priced printers are hardly worth fixing, so I just 
bought a different one.
Cap gets hot, electrolyte vaporizes, cap quits working, unit cools 
down, electrolyte cools, cap starts working, electrolyte boils again, 
unit quits workingk, etc., etc.; or something like that IIRC.

Gerry



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Re: [MBZ] OT flat screen erratic (in)op

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Mouser.com 

Caps like you never saw them.  And cheep, too.

-D



> On Mar 10, 2017, at 2:22 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I would bet on capacitor(s) being bad. I have the same unit except smaller 
> that started having similar problems. Took it apart and replaced capacitors 
> with used capacitors since RS didn't have the right size. Worked fine for 
> several months and then misbehaved again. If I remember to buy correct size 
> caps next time in a big town, they might fix it unless something else is 
> destroying the caps.
> A number of years ago a Chinese company that normally produced good caps, 
> sold millions to various oriental manufacturers, and they went bad in a 
> matter of months to years.
> I had an HP printer go bad in less than a year which was probably bad caps, 
> but low priced printers are hardly worth fixing, so I just bought a different 
> one.
> Cap gets hot, electrolyte vaporizes, cap quits working, unit cools down, 
> electrolyte cools, cap starts working, electrolyte boils again, unit quits 
> workingk, etc., etc.; or something like that IIRC.
> Gerry

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