Re: [MBZ] Something is wrong with my car

2017-03-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
yeah! The problem is that it was made after 1991. Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes March 19, 2017 at 5:57 PM https://youtu.be/mKByyJOb6nk Has a slight uneven cold idle which turns into a dead cylinder when hot, leaking lots of fuel into the ground. I removed

Re: [MBZ] OT - Milk

2017-03-19 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
Near as I can tell from brief research, the largest glass container of milk in the 1950s would be half-gallons... I have seen gallon cartons in the past, but they're somewhat unwieldy. Most dairies use plastic jugs for milk nowadays. On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 7:52 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <

Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

2017-03-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
GoooD! With red coloring. Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes March 19, 2017 at 3:03 PM What the heck is Korean BBQ? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] Something is wrong with my car

2017-03-19 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
I'm mildly surprised the engine shut down at all... On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 10:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Well the injector holes were full of fuel from leaking return lines, leaks > from delivery valves, leaks from plastic fuel lines, its all getting

Re: [MBZ] I am an Idiot

2017-03-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I still prefer 2x8 to 2x12 lumber with big blocks for the flat part. THey don't slide on concrete. Larry Turner via Mercedes March 19, 2017 at 7:28 AM That's why I don't like metal ramps - they have always started to slide when I tried to drive onto them. I

Re: [MBZ] ounces of preventiom

2017-03-19 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Need to send that link to your kid. Rick Original Message From: clay via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 10:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List; Harold Monroe; Alexander Monroe Reply To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: clay Subject: [MBZ] ounces of preventiom

[MBZ] ounces of preventiom

2017-03-19 Thread clay via Mercedes
http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/1yETYy/:uH.-NJZi:EysQPmr3/consumerist.com/340380/7-things-to-regularly-check-on-your-car-to-save-money Clay This e-mail from Clay Monroe and any attachments to it are confidential to the intended recipient and may also be uncensored. If you have received it in

Re: [MBZ] Something is wrong with my car

2017-03-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Well the injector holes were full of fuel from leaking return lines, leaks from delivery valves, leaks from plastic fuel lines, its all getting replaced. On 3/19/2017 10:16 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Where is the fuel leaking from? ___

Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

2017-03-19 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Sounds like more fun that I had -- just front brakes and hoses on the TE -- rotors were marginal and the pads pretty worn but not shot, but I was getting a grinding sound on firm brake application so I replace everything. Found that the rotor retaining screw had broken away a ring of the disk,

Re: [MBZ] Something is wrong with my car

2017-03-19 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Where is the fuel leaking from? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On March 19, 2017 6:57:05 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >https://youtu.be/mKByyJOb6nk > >Has a slight uneven cold idle which turns into a dead cylinder when >hot, leaking lots of

Re: [MBZ] Uro part?

2017-03-19 Thread clay via Mercedes
Looks like somebody was playing with the RODEO. Got to see that at the shop the other day. Four minutes of a car hopping around while the suspension was being tested. clay > On Mar 19, 2017, at 9:39 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > >

[MBZ] Change the oil, and fuses

2017-03-19 Thread clay via Mercedes
There was a club tech session yesterday. Pretty good shop, they let us put cars on the lifts and got lots of great feedback. Lots of leaks pointed out on Polei. Lots of stuff I was not aware of. The kick off was a really pretty 380SEL, burgundy with an ok interior. Some young fellow got it

Re: [MBZ] I wonder if this is that car that was listed at $1100 forever and somebody bought it to try and flip it for profit

2017-03-19 Thread clay via Mercedes
I have a manual trans on the shelf that would fit in my SD. No interest in doing that though clay > On Mar 19, 2017, at 5:46 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > Mercedes 300D Coupe OM617A with 240D 4 speed Tranny >

Re: [MBZ] SDL

2017-03-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I have several non rusty bodies On 3/19/2017 9:49 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: Well, there are going to be a bunch of great w126 bodied cars coming to the junk yards in the next few months. There are a pack of them on CL that just will not find new homes given the asking prices. There are

Re: [MBZ] SDL

2017-03-19 Thread clay via Mercedes
Well, there are going to be a bunch of great w126 bodied cars coming to the junk yards in the next few months. There are a pack of them on CL that just will not find new homes given the asking prices. There are too few buyers with knowledge enough to put the petrol engines back to good.

Re: [MBZ] Anyone Ever Heard of This?

2017-03-19 Thread clay via Mercedes
I just did yesterday. Club event at local shop, we got to put cars in the air. Fellow who has a red 220D that he keeps immaculate, showed up late. We have been pals since I got Gump. He has all manner of manuals and deep research. ANYWAY, he learned of this item and was thinking he needed

[MBZ] What the retro bus/RV could become

2017-03-19 Thread clay via Mercedes
https://youtu.be/KipEWECwjx8 Better time spent getting this set up than messing about with worn out Benz. For Kaleb, not me. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Photographer of the week

2017-03-19 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Ran before I lost the keys, is that a variation of "Ran when parked"? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

2017-03-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Probably up to the sponsor. You need to find a new Bimby. -D > On Mar 19, 2017, at 8:50 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Interesting, nobody flew me out to any of the recent q > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 19, 2017, at 7:47 PM, Dan Penoff via

[MBZ] OT - Milk

2017-03-19 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
was: OT Winter won't stop! Andrew wrote: > That term is so 1950s. 1950s - How was a gallon of milk packaged? Plastic as we see today? Are there cardboard gallons? tin.tin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

2017-03-19 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Interesting, nobody flew me out to any of the recent q Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 19, 2017, at 7:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Fly me and the spouse out and we’ll make some. > > -D > > >> On Mar 19, 2017, at 6:58 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>

Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

2017-03-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Fly me and the spouse out and we’ll make some. -D > On Mar 19, 2017, at 6:58 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Poos should make some at the OkieQ > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 19, 2017, at 5:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes >>

[MBZ] 240D Euro

2017-03-19 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Maine hermit

2017-03-19 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Max wrote: > Very strange indeed. What will he do after serving his sentence? Disappear > again, I'll reckon. How many more like him are out there? There should me more like him? I like his chutzpah. Sounded like he doesn't like stealing briefs and food and books but he got hungry, so...

[MBZ] Photographer of the week

2017-03-19 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Mercedes SEL 560 http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/6050804378.html via cPro for Craigslist iOS: http://tinyurl.com/cPro-iDevice Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

2017-03-19 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Poos should make some at the OkieQ Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 19, 2017, at 5:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > Its barbecue, prepared Korean style, I thought a smart guy like you would get > that. ;) > Seriously if you've never had K-Q you owe it to

[MBZ] Something is wrong with my car

2017-03-19 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
https://youtu.be/mKByyJOb6nk Has a slight uneven cold idle which turns into a dead cylinder when hot, leaking lots of fuel into the ground. I removed manifold today. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

2017-03-19 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Kaleb inquires: >‎What the heck is Korean BBQ? Dog. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

2017-03-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Its barbecue, prepared Korean style, I thought a smart guy like you would get that. ;) Seriously if you've never had K-Q you owe it to yourself... -Curt From: Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Kaleb Striplin

Re: [MBZ] I am an Idiot

2017-03-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I tied a bunch of knots in a heavy piece of rope so they made a big bundle, put the bundle of knots under the ramp, laid the rest of the rope out so when I drove up on the ramps the rope would be under the tires of the car. Once the tire hit the front of the ramp the rope can't come through.

[MBZ] Ought to win a photography award

2017-03-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
https://worcester.craigslist.org/hvo/5978464038.html -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT - Maine hermit

2017-03-19 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Very strange indeed. What will he do after serving his sentence? Disappear again, I'll reckon. How many more like him are out there? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On March 19, 2017 5:19:02 PM EDT, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote: >Curt - the word

Re: [MBZ] OT Winter won't stop! Make it stop!

2017-03-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
That term is so 1950s. I suppose your heroes will always be Joe McCarthy and Roy Cohn. How ironic that their spiritual successors Trump and bunion are rabid Kremlin apologists On Mar 18, 2017 11:30 AM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Cambridge is a nuclear-free

[MBZ] OT - Maine hermit

2017-03-19 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Curt - the word "camp" came up in a story about a hermit in Maine - Maybe you know this guy? - Christopher Knight stole goods from camps around North Pond in upstate Maine. The guy sounds interesting:

Re: [MBZ] Overseas shipping?

2017-03-19 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
You will not need any special customs clearance for that On Mar 19, 2017 8:37 AM, "Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It's NOS for less than what I can find a used one for. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 19, 2017, at 10:32 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < >

Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

2017-03-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Whoops! Wrong recipe. This is what I’m cooking: http://www.koreanbapsang.com/2010/05/bulgogi-korean-bbq-beef.html Bulgogi, not galbi. Also yum. -D > On Mar 19, 2017, at 4:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > What the heck is Korean BBQ? > > I will

Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

2017-03-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
http://www.koreanbapsang.com/2010/06/galbikalbi-korean-bbq-short-ribs.html I make it with the ends of a beef tenderloin rather than short ribs. Yum. In Korea they prepare this stuff right at the table on butane burners. The cooks stand there and turn the beef while cutting it into smaller

Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

2017-03-19 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
What the heck is Korean BBQ? I will post my adventures shortly. I have only been out working in the shop a couple of hours but I am still feeling lazy and am about ready to go sit down. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 19, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

2017-03-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Pick up around the garage, maybe wash the oak pollen off the 300SEL so it doesn’t look like it’s flocked. Got some friends coming over for Korean BBQ later on. -D > On Mar 19, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > What are you going to do the

Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

2017-03-19 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
That's it. I might prove that I have a good set of used injectors to keep handy on the shelf. Not going to happen today, SWMBO has scheduled the rest of the afternoon. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On March 19, 2017 2:47:43 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

2017-03-19 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
What are you going to do the rest of the day? Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 19, 2017, at 1:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Done. > > Got everything back together without a great deal of effort. Tensioned the > new belt before tightening the 19mm bolt.

Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

2017-03-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Other than time and a set of heat shields, what do you have to lose? -D > On Mar 19, 2017, at 1:49 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yesterday I pulled the injector set from The White Whale and mailed them back > to Mark Blevins to get the pressures set

Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

2017-03-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Done. Got everything back together without a great deal of effort. Tensioned the new belt before tightening the 19mm bolt. Made a fan pulley holding tool from a “J” hook and a pencil. Temporary, but now I have a template for a tool I can make at a later date. Still got a little squeal on

Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

2017-03-19 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Yesterday I pulled the injector set from The White Whale and mailed them back to Mark Blevins to get the pressures set correctly. I'm tempted to try cleaning up the two that had no heat shields, reinstall the old set, and see how the car runs. That would be double work, but might validate my

[MBZ] Uro part?

2017-03-19 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
https://blackflag.jalopnik.com/stop-trying-to-drive-home-mercedes-youre-drunk-1793406662 -- --FT Winston Churchill: “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense. Never yield to force; never

Re: [MBZ] Overseas shipping?

2017-03-19 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Yes Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 19, 2017, at 10:55 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > What car? '98 E300? > > - > Max > Charleston SC > > On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> It's

Re: [MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

2017-03-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Just got done cleaning what I suspect was about a half pound of belt dressing off the various pulleys. Oy! I just figured there was some bits of old belt stuck in the grooves of some of the pulleys, but when I went at the stuff with a small slotted screwdriver I found that it was putty-like

Re: [MBZ] Overseas shipping?

2017-03-19 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
What car? '98 E300? - Max Charleston SC On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It's NOS for less than what I can find a used one for. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 19, 2017, at 10:32 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < >

Re: [MBZ] Overseas shipping?

2017-03-19 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
It's NOS for less than what I can find a used one for. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 19, 2017, at 10:32 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > What's so special about this differential that you can only find one > overseas? > > - > Max > Charleston SC >

Re: [MBZ] Overseas shipping?

2017-03-19 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Somewhere in a city near you is a very specialized operation called a "Freight Forwarder". Find them, because it is their specialty to know all the customs issues, who ships what and on what schedule, for overseas shipments. They will charge for their services, but it will be money well spent to

Re: [MBZ] Overseas shipping?

2017-03-19 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
What's so special about this differential that you can only find one overseas? - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] I am an Idiot

2017-03-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yeah, if there was a negative about my wooden ramps it would be that they’re long, maybe 5’, and it makes it harder to get under the car some times. In fact, I rarely drive on them, I usually just jack the car up and slide them under the wheel. The bad part about that is that they’re so long

[MBZ] Sunday's 300SEL Fun

2017-03-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
No car stuff yesterday. I needed a mental health day from cars… So this morning against my better judgement I figured I would replace the belt tensioner on the 300SEL. I wasn’t looking forward to this job, as I recalled it being a real PITA on the oldest son’s former 300E 2.6. It was

Re: [MBZ] Overseas shipping?

2017-03-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yeah, that’s container shipment for sure. Probably about a month. I’ve shipped big stuff overseas on a “space available” arrangement with DHL and other carriers. If you call them up and talk to their logistics people they will tell you how to do it. You don’t know whether the item will go in

Re: [MBZ] I am an Idiot

2017-03-19 Thread tyee165 via Mercedes
I have made a couple of different sets out of 3/4" plywood. The 1st set was taller and wider than most and was used for an old Chevy pickup. The newer set has longer ramps so that they work with modern cars with low front valances. The other benefit with them is that they are much easier to

Re: [MBZ] I am an Idiot

2017-03-19 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
good idea! LarryT On 03/19/2017 8:44 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I have a set of huge metal ramps that I have had for about 25 years that will slide out from under car as you try to drive on them, so I have to put a piece of carpet or old floor mat under them, then they don't

Re: [MBZ] Overseas shipping?

2017-03-19 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I'm sure it's on the slow boat because shipping was around $90 I believe. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 19, 2017, at 9:32 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Holy mother of pearl! A differential? > > If it’s going surface you’re looking at a good 3-4 weeks. That

Re: [MBZ] Overseas shipping?

2017-03-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Holy mother of pearl! A differential? If it’s going surface you’re looking at a good 3-4 weeks. That would be in a containerized shipment. If it’s going air, maybe a week-10 days. -D > On Mar 19, 2017, at 9:18 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > A

Re: [MBZ] Overseas shipping?

2017-03-19 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
My Monark nozzles didn't take long, but I'm pretty sure they came by air. I doubt that a differential would fly, it'll probably take the slow boat. I'd say a month is a good bet, maybe a little longer. I think it is about 10 - 14 days for the transit between continents, and then you've got

Re: [MBZ] Overseas shipping?

2017-03-19 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
A differential Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 19, 2017, at 8:11 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Depends on how they sent it and how big it is. > > I got a set of Monark nozzles from Germany in roughly a week by DHL. I would > think something like this form

Re: [MBZ] Overseas shipping?

2017-03-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Depends on how they sent it and how big it is. I got a set of Monark nozzles from Germany in roughly a week by DHL. I would think something like this form the UK would be the equivalent. What are you shipping? -D > On Mar 19, 2017, at 8:49 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] I am an Idiot

2017-03-19 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
If I would ever get out to the shop and get the lift bolted down I would start using that. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 19, 2017, at 7:46 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I have wooden ramps made with 2x12 lumber stacked up in layers. No way those > will

[MBZ] Overseas shipping?

2017-03-19 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
How long does it take on average to get something shipped from GB? A month? Longer? Less? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] I am an Idiot

2017-03-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I have wooden ramps made with 2x12 lumber stacked up in layers. No way those will collapse. I never trusted the metal ramps, and I had the same issues with them sliding across the floor when I tried to drive up on them. -D > On Mar 19, 2017, at 8:28 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes >

[MBZ] I wonder if this is that car that was listed at $1100 forever and somebody bought it to try and flip it for profit

2017-03-19 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Mercedes 300D Coupe OM617A with 240D 4 speed Tranny http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/6050315435.html via cPro for Craigslist iOS: http://tinyurl.com/cPro-iDevice Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] I am an Idiot

2017-03-19 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I have a set of huge metal ramps that I have had for about 25 years that will slide out from under car as you try to drive on them, so I have to put a piece of carpet or old floor mat under them, then they don't slide. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 19, 2017, at 7:28 AM, Larry Turner via

Re: [MBZ] I am an Idiot

2017-03-19 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
That's why I don't like metal ramps - they have always started to slide when I tried to drive onto them. I guess the concrete surface where I was working was too slick for them? I was thinking that perhaps there are some kind of hard foam/plastic ramps that will support the car, and be light

Re: [MBZ] beware of A380s

2017-03-19 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
you can also see those vortices when it's humid at F1 races as air is forced across the rear wings when the cars are on long straights or gentle curves. LarryT On 03/18/2017 11:26 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: Back in the late 90s i took a BA flt BOS-LHR on a 747, first class on the