Re: [MBZ] Darn Tough

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

here is the sock i have most of:
https://www.smartwool.com/shop/men-socks-hike/trekking-heavy-crew-socks-sw0sw131?variationId=043
I have a few of the medium and one of the extra heavy mountaineering.  
THe medium are ok in summer, but wear out faster.  The Mountaineer extra 
heavy need another size bigger boot.  So these ramain the favorite.  
Warranty is only 2 years, so Curt's Darn tough are better in that respect.


My feet were always cold standing on cold concrete in the winter.   With 
these, my feet never got cold.  $21 unless you catch a sale.

Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
November 24, 2017 at 9:00 PM
Are these the socks Curt was talking about last year?
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/11/jeremy-s/because-shooters-need-socks-too-darn-tough-socks/



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Re: [MBZ] 747

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Yup.

The cause of the accident is fairly complex though.

The principle cause, although this is not widely addressed, is that air traffic 
control at SF is notorious for giving final landing authorization long after 
the aircraft is past the initial point in the glide slope.  It's bad enough 
that "go arounds" are quite common since it's dangerous to descend at high 
rates of altitude loss during final approach.

What happened with the 777 was that late authorization was given, so the plane 
was well above the proper glide slope altitude but committed to landing.  The 
pilot selected "flight change mode" for the autopilot to allow a fairly steep 
drop down the the proper glide slope, and forgot that that particular setting 
disables the auto-throttles on the engines.  I believe it's intended for fully 
manual flight, but someone with more knowledge would have to chime in on that, 
I'm reporting what I gleaned form a variety of on line discussions.

Since the autothrottles were disabled, and the autopilot does NOT report that 
when "flight change mode" is selected, when the aircraft entered final approach 
near the end to  the runway, the engines did not spool up and it descended 
faster than normal and may have stalled, then hit the seawall.

The pilot was in fact not very experienced with the 777, but the ALPA has 
complained to Boeing quite a bit about that flight system according to the 
pilots posting on forums.  The causes of the accident were pretty well agreed 
on by 777 pilots within a couple days, as many of them had been caught unaware 
by the "flight change mode", and most US airlines seem to train more for that 
issue, it's deadly on final approach and should never be used while landing.  I 
don't know how clear this is in the flight manuals or in the training Asiana 
gave it's pilots.

However, my personal take on this is that while improper training or improper 
use of "flight change mode" was the direct cause of the accident, the 777, like 
all modern computer controlled aircraft, will land itself quite nicely in the 
conditions at SF that day, but because the delay in final landing approval 
caused the aircraft to be seriously out of position when final approach was 
initiated, the pilots had to use unusual measures to get on the glide slope.  
High rates of descent in heavy jet aircraft with swept wings is ALWAYS a risk 
near the ground, it takes quite a bit of engine power to halt the descent, and 
it takes about 8 seconds to get full power out of a high bipass engine when it 
is initially in idle.  There were several bad accidents in the 60's in 727s for 
this reason -- you can drop one of those birds at 10,000 ft per minute, but you 
better put the power on fast when you want to slow that rate.  They don't 
bounce very well.

Safety isn't about punishing people for making errors, it's about eliminating 
the cause for errors and preventing unintended actions.  Yes, the pilot made a 
serious error, but the only reason he did is that ATC failed to authorize 
descent until he was 1000 ft above the upper limit of the glide slope.  

One could also question why an altitude change mode would disable autothrottles 
as well -- it's sort of like a cruise control that disconnects if you change 
lanes as far as I can tell.  At the very least, the pilot should be visually 
and audibly warned that autothrottles are disabled.  It's not possible to spool 
a turbofan engine up fast enough in this scenario.

The good thing is that the 777 is an amazingly tough aircraft.  If you haven't 
watched the video in slo-mo of the crash, you should.  it's not very clear, but 
it is obvious that the aircraft very nearly stood on it's nose after the 
impact, but the fuselage stayed intact.  A very similar accident at Boston 
Logan with a 727 in the early 70's resulted in nearly complete disintegration 
of the airframe
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Re: [MBZ] Somebody really needs this

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 22:40:06 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> https://easttexas.craigslist.org/cto/d/1986-chrysler-limo/6382765860.html

No, thank you.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Somebody really needs this

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

If they have papers showing it was Frankie's, it should be in a 
museum.   Too bad the Harrah's collection is no more.


For the money, that'd be fun to haul people around for prom, birthdays, 
weddings, etc.  A car older than the bride and groom...



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
November 24, 2017 at 10:40 PM
https://easttexas.craigslist.org/cto/d/1986-chrysler-limo/6382765860.html



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Re: [MBZ] Darn Tough

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I think so.  I like the heavy Smartwool hiking socks.   These look to be 
equivalent.  I don't think smartwool has the lifetime guarantee.  I have 
worn them out.


As an Aside, I saw a Smartwool red/black traditional woodsman/hunting 
wool jacket in Rochester MN.  It looks as nice or better than the 
Woolrich one I got probably 40 years ago.  Woolrich has always been the 
best, but it looks like they have competition now.   I didn't see the 
price, but the same place has Irish dunger caps for $28 to $140.  As far 
as I could tell, none were made in Ireland.  The $28 ones were chinee, 
but looked as good as the more expensive ones.



Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
November 24, 2017 at 9:00 PM
Are these the socks Curt was talking about last year?
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/11/jeremy-s/because-shooters-need-socks-too-darn-tough-socks/


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[MBZ] Somebody really needs this

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

https://easttexas.craigslist.org/cto/d/1986-chrysler-limo/6382765860.html

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Re: [MBZ] Darn Tough

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 22:00:11 -0500 (EST) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Are these the socks Curt was talking about last year?
> http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/11/jeremy-s/because-shooters-need-socks-too-darn-tough-socks/

Yes.

In fact, I was going through old emails just a couple of days ago.
I saw Curt's reference to the web site and went and looked at it.


Craig

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[MBZ] Darn Tough

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Are these the socks Curt was talking about last year?
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/11/jeremy-s/because-shooters-need-socks-too-darn-tough-socks/

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Re: [MBZ] Happy Chillin' Thanksgiving

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

+1

-D


> On Nov 24, 2017, at 8:04 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, the DIY kind. Save some money for house repairs, do them as needed. If
> you could save money with the insurance, they would be out of business.
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1995 Mercedes e320 estate (w124)

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Condition:Excellent
Title Status:Parts Only

How did it end up with a scrap title?
Or did the seller make a wrong selection from the title menu?
Scrap title makes it not usable for a donor body, unless some states let you 
rebuild a scrap/parts only car like they do with salvage cars. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1995 Mercedes e320 estate (w124)

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Kaleb, it's GREEN - go get it . . .

On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 5:43 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> SWMBO might like that!  Too bad it would cost more to get it here than to
> buy the car.
>
> Fred Moir via Mercedes 
>> November 24, 2017 at 4:25 PM
>>
>> ?
>>
>>
>> Fred Moir.
>> Lynn MA.
>> Diesel preferred.
>>
>>
>> 
>> From: nore...@craigslist.org 
>> Sent: 24 November 2017 17:21
>> To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com
>> Subject: 1995 Mercedes e320 estate (w124)
>>
>>
>> fredy4.s...@yahoo.com forwarded you this from craigslist:
>>
>> 
>> 1995 Mercedes e320 estate (w124)
>>
>> https://nh.craigslist.org/cto/6388735583.html
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Chillin' Thanksgiving

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Yes, the DIY kind. Save some money for house repairs, do them as needed. If
you could save money with the insurance, they would be out of business.

On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 5:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Anybody know or any other home warranty companies that are good?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > Pretty sure they will cross MD off their list soon as well
> >
> >> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> It appears they cover all surrounding states but not OK
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> > On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > High Tech Home Warranty in NC.  They are a little gun shy due to all
> my claims, but generally, they are honest (but not to the point of being
> stupid) and responsive.  Their chief claims dude Keith is great.
> >> >
> >> >> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >> So tell me more about this.  What company do you have?  Have you had
> any problems?  My wife says we should get one for both houses but I have
> read nothing but bad reviews on everything I can find online.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> On 11/24/2017 1:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >> >>> Might be a little late, but do you have a Homeowners Warranty?  Our
> policy
> >> >>> has been a godsend as we have replaced a water heater and repaired
> >> >>> dishwasher, washer, and dryer since moving in.  Warranty charges a
> $50 co
> >> >>> pay per incident.  Well worth the $45 monthly premium.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >>  Nahh.  Cheap Canadian bastards (parent company of the utility is
> now based
> >>  out of Halifax, NS) dumped all of the energy conservations spiffs
> last
> >>  summer when they took over.
> >> 
> >>  I’m installing it.  While plumbing is one thing I really, really
> hate
> >>  doing, since this is in the garage I’m far more comfortable with
> it since
> >>  if something goes south there won’t be any damage.
> >> 
> >>  -D
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> > Will your electric company subsidize a new efficient water
> heater?  Only
> >>  thing is around here you have to get s contractor to install it
> which kinda
> >>  eats any savings over DIY
> >> > --R
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Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust repair

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

You have to dissect the rotted pipe stub out of the muffler, insert a new pipe 
into the hole  in the side of the muffler and weld the new pipe to the sheet 
metal on the muffler. Since the steel is thicker on the pipe, you have to 
direct the mig nozzle more towards the pipe and weave the puddle into the sheet 
metal carefully so as to not burn through the muffler but at the same time get 
good penetration on the pipe. 

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> On Nov 24, 2017, at 7:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> I dont' thing there is 2 " of pipe off the muffler.  I think the only thing 
> that MIGHT work is to have a connector section that is smaller and fits up 
> inside the muffler.  At the end of the day it probably needs a new muffler.  
> Which it being a 1 year only sort of deal is $300+ iirc.
> 
> 
>> On 11/24/2017 6:11 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>> Make gussets.  weld to muffler and pipe over your welds. (or griind off the 
>> welds for the gussets, and reweld with the gussets.)  Probably need 4 
>> gussets.
>> 
>> If there is at least 2" of pipe in front  of the muffler, grind off the 
>> welds, and use the tin can hose clamp bandaid.   It is cracking from 
>> vibration.  the bandaid releives the stress and vibration.  I have run those 
>> on 200Ds for 40 + years.  You need to replace the can every 2-7 years.  Or 
>> you can use 22-26 ga flat steel.  One hose clamp on the back, one on the 
>> front.
>> 
>> Or,  you can give the POS to Dimitri.  He will fix it!
>>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>> November 24, 2017 at 6:01 PM
>>> I need to do something about the exhaust on my 95 e300. It started breaking 
>>> off close to where the pipe runs into the rear muffler. I welded it up, 
>>> rather poorly probably as it was my first time. It lasted a couple of weeks 
>>> then started breaking loose again. I welded it some more but it probably 
>>> won’t last. I need to pull it off again and see about getting some sort or 
>>> connector that will fit over or in the pipe and weld that.
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Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust repair

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I dont' thing there is 2 " of pipe off the muffler.  I think the only 
thing that MIGHT work is to have a connector section that is smaller and 
fits up inside the muffler.  At the end of the day it probably needs a 
new muffler.  Which it being a 1 year only sort of deal is $300+ iirc.



On 11/24/2017 6:11 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Make gussets.  weld to muffler and pipe over your welds. (or griind 
off the welds for the gussets, and reweld with the gussets.)  Probably 
need 4 gussets.


If there is at least 2" of pipe in front  of the muffler, grind off 
the welds, and use the tin can hose clamp bandaid.   It is cracking 
from vibration.  the bandaid releives the stress and vibration.  I 
have run those on 200Ds for 40 + years.  You need to replace the can 
every 2-7 years.  Or you can use 22-26 ga flat steel.  One hose clamp 
on the back, one on the front.


Or,  you can give the POS to Dimitri.  He will fix it!

Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
November 24, 2017 at 6:01 PM
I need to do something about the exhaust on my 95 e300. It started 
breaking off close to where the pipe runs into the rear muffler. I 
welded it up, rather poorly probably as it was my first time. It 
lasted a couple of weeks then started breaking loose again. I welded 
it some more but it probably won’t last. I need to pull it off again 
and see about getting some sort or connector that will fit over or in 
the pipe and weld that.


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Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust repair

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Make gussets.  weld to muffler and pipe over your welds. (or griind off 
the welds for the gussets, and reweld with the gussets.)  Probably need 
4 gussets.


If there is at least 2" of pipe in front  of the muffler, grind off the 
welds, and use the tin can hose clamp bandaid.   It is cracking from 
vibration.  the bandaid releives the stress and vibration.  I have run 
those on 200Ds for 40 + years.  You need to replace the can every 2-7 
years.  Or you can use 22-26 ga flat steel.  One hose clamp on the back, 
one on the front.


Or,  you can give the POS to Dimitri.  He will fix it!

Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
November 24, 2017 at 6:01 PM
I need to do something about the exhaust on my 95 e300. It started 
breaking off close to where the pipe runs into the rear muffler. I 
welded it up, rather poorly probably as it was my first time. It 
lasted a couple of weeks then started breaking loose again. I welded 
it some more but it probably won’t last. I need to pull it off again 
and see about getting some sort or connector that will fit over or in 
the pipe and weld that.


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Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust repair

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Wow! 22 years of patch jobs, now that’s impressive! Might take you up on the 
resonator and muffler offer! The last exhaust I repaired was on the 240 that 
Curt gave me (formerly Dwight’s)-the one with the head issue. I repaired the 
muffler and resonator with sheet metal as well as replacing a good amount of 
the pipes. Whole thing cost me $90 in parts from flaps that I pieced together. 
It fit better than an OE exhaust as I pretty much tailored it to car!

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> On Nov 24, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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> 
> Nice work!  (as always)  I broke down and put new exhaust on both 240Ds.   
> From crockauto the price is not so bad  I patched the exhaust on the 81 
> for 22 years.  the front pipe kept rotting away.  Methinks it was a flaps 
> replacement sometime, while the rest was original.   I have a good muffler, 
> and a good resonator in the shed.  If you ever need either, you could weld 
> them on.
> 
>> Dimitri via Mercedes 
>> November 24, 2017 at 4:49 PM
>> So the entire exhaust with the exception of the front pipe fell off one of 
>> my 240Ds last November while driving locally. I pulled over, picked it off 
>> the road and ratchet strapped it to the roof rack. I drove the car sans 
>> exhaust for the remainder of the winter- neighbors loved me! As I was busy 
>> with a massive rental property renovation, I had no time until now to deal 
>> with it. Basically the pipe rotted at the flange where the front pipe and 
>> remainder of exhaust attach.
>> I bought a section pipe slightly wider than the exhaust, cut off rotted 
>> flange and welded it on, effectively creating a new flange. I then bought a 
>> new front pipe from Rockauto for a whopping $20. So for a grand total of $35 
>> including shipping, new “flange”, and new clamp, I effected a permanent and 
>> high quality repair!
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust repair

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I need to do something about the exhaust on my 95 e300. It started breaking off 
close to where the pipe runs into the rear muffler. I welded it up, rather 
poorly probably as it was my first time. It lasted a couple of weeks then 
started breaking loose again. I welded it some more but it probably won’t last. 
I need to pull it off again and see about getting some sort or connector that 
will fit over or in the pipe and weld that. 

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> On Nov 24, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nice work!  (as always)  I broke down and put new exhaust on both 240Ds.   
> From crockauto the price is not so bad  I patched the exhaust on the 81 
> for 22 years.  the front pipe kept rotting away.  Methinks it was a flaps 
> replacement sometime, while the rest was original.   I have a good muffler, 
> and a good resonator in the shed.  If you ever need either, you could weld 
> them on.
> 
>> Dimitri via Mercedes 
>> November 24, 2017 at 4:49 PM
>> So the entire exhaust with the exception of the front pipe fell off one of 
>> my 240Ds last November while driving locally. I pulled over, picked it off 
>> the road and ratchet strapped it to the roof rack. I drove the car sans 
>> exhaust for the remainder of the winter- neighbors loved me! As I was busy 
>> with a massive rental property renovation, I had no time until now to deal 
>> with it. Basically the pipe rotted at the flange where the front pipe and 
>> remainder of exhaust attach.
>> I bought a section pipe slightly wider than the exhaust, cut off rotted 
>> flange and welded it on, effectively creating a new flange. I then bought a 
>> new front pipe from Rockauto for a whopping $20. So for a grand total of $35 
>> including shipping, new “flange”, and new clamp, I effected a permanent and 
>> high quality repair!
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust repair

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Nice work!  (as always)  I broke down and put new exhaust on both 
240Ds.   From crockauto the price is not so bad  I patched the 
exhaust on the 81 for 22 years.  the front pipe kept rotting away.  
Methinks it was a flaps replacement sometime, while the rest was 
original.   I have a good muffler, and a good resonator in the shed.  If 
you ever need either, you could weld them on.



Dimitri via Mercedes 
November 24, 2017 at 4:49 PM
So the entire exhaust with the exception of the front pipe fell off 
one of my 240Ds last November while driving locally. I pulled over, 
picked it off the road and ratchet strapped it to the roof rack. I 
drove the car sans exhaust for the remainder of the winter- neighbors 
loved me! As I was busy with a massive rental property renovation, I 
had no time until now to deal with it. Basically the pipe rotted at 
the flange where the front pipe and remainder of exhaust attach.
I bought a section pipe slightly wider than the exhaust, cut off 
rotted flange and welded it on, effectively creating a new flange. I 
then bought a new front pipe from Rockauto for a whopping $20. So for 
a grand total of $35 including shipping, new “flange”, and new clamp, 
I effected a permanent and high quality repair!






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Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1995 Mercedes e320 estate (w124)

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

SWMBO might like that!  Too bad it would cost more to get it here than 
to buy the car.



Fred Moir via Mercedes 
November 24, 2017 at 4:25 PM
?


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Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving to all of you folks down south of the border

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Well, if the Poteen has a little wood alcohol or kerosene mixed in, it 
might be closer to that stuff Vlad the putin drinks.



Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
November 24, 2017 at 4:23 PM
Or Putin?



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Re: [MBZ] Happy Chillin' Thanksgiving

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Anybody know or any other home warranty companies that are good?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Pretty sure they will cross MD off their list soon as well
> 
>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> It appears they cover all surrounding states but not OK
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > High Tech Home Warranty in NC.  They are a little gun shy due to all my 
>> > claims, but generally, they are honest (but not to the point of being 
>> > stupid) and responsive.  Their chief claims dude Keith is great.
>> >
>> >> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> So tell me more about this.  What company do you have?  Have you had any 
>> >> problems?  My wife says we should get one for both houses but I have read 
>> >> nothing but bad reviews on everything I can find online.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On 11/24/2017 1:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> >>> Might be a little late, but do you have a Homeowners Warranty?  Our 
>> >>> policy
>> >>> has been a godsend as we have replaced a water heater and repaired
>> >>> dishwasher, washer, and dryer since moving in.  Warranty charges a $50 co
>> >>> pay per incident.  Well worth the $45 monthly premium.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>>  Nahh.  Cheap Canadian bastards (parent company of the utility is now 
>>  based
>>  out of Halifax, NS) dumped all of the energy conservations spiffs last
>>  summer when they took over.
>> 
>>  I’m installing it.  While plumbing is one thing I really, really hate
>>  doing, since this is in the garage I’m far more comfortable with it 
>>  since
>>  if something goes south there won’t be any damage.
>> 
>>  -D
>> 
>> 
>> > On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> > Will your electric company subsidize a new efficient water heater?  
>> > Only
>>  thing is around here you have to get s contractor to install it which 
>>  kinda
>>  eats any savings over DIY
>> > --R
>> > Sent from iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust repair

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

You are a wizard. Was this the southern princess?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Nov 24, 2017 5:49 PM, "Dimitri via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> So the entire exhaust with the exception of the front pipe fell off one of
> my 240Ds last November while driving locally. I pulled over, picked it off
> the road and ratchet strapped it to the roof rack. I drove the car sans
> exhaust for the remainder of the winter- neighbors loved me! As I was busy
> with a massive rental property renovation, I had no time until now to deal
> with it. Basically the pipe rotted at the flange where the front pipe and
> remainder of exhaust attach.
> I bought a section pipe slightly wider than the exhaust, cut off rotted
> flange and welded it on, effectively creating a new flange. I then bought a
> new front pipe from Rockauto for a whopping $20. So for a grand total of
> $35 including shipping, new “flange”, and new clamp, I effected a permanent
> and high quality repair!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[MBZ] Fw: 1995 Mercedes e320 estate (w124)

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

?


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



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Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving to all of you folks down south of the border

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Or Putin?

On 24/11/2017 3:53 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

Izzat anythin' like Poteen?




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Re: [MBZ] Happy Chillin' Thanksgiving

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Due to the age of my house (coming up in 20 years) a lot of major systems are 
getting to the point of requiring replacement. Just did the AC in March of this 
year, probably going to need to do the roof in another 2-3 years. We replaced 
all the major appliances when we moved in roughly six years ago.

When the home warranty people looked at our house they saw all of this, and 
quoted us accordingly.  If my memory serves me correctly they were wanting 
nearly $200/month six years ago. Do the math, we would have lost money big time.

This is nothing more than a form of insurance. They’re betting you won’t need 
it, you’re betting you will.

In this case, we came out ahead significantly.

-D

> On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So tell me more about this.  What company do you have?  Have you had any 
> problems?  My wife says we should get one for both houses but I have read 
> nothing but bad reviews on everything I can find online.
> 
> 
>> On 11/24/2017 1:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> Might be a little late, but do you have a Homeowners Warranty?  Our policy
>> has been a godsend as we have replaced a water heater and repaired
>> dishwasher, washer, and dryer since moving in.  Warranty charges a $50 co
>> pay per incident.  Well worth the $45 monthly premium.
>> 
>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Nahh.  Cheap Canadian bastards (parent company of the utility is now based
>>> out of Halifax, NS) dumped all of the energy conservations spiffs last
>>> summer when they took over.
>>> 
>>> I’m installing it.  While plumbing is one thing I really, really hate
>>> doing, since this is in the garage I’m far more comfortable with it since
>>> if something goes south there won’t be any damage.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 Will your electric company subsidize a new efficient water heater?  Only
>>> thing is around here you have to get s contractor to install it which kinda
>>> eats any savings over DIY
 --R
 Sent from iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving to all of you folks down south of the border

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Izzat anythin' like Poteen?


*From:* Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
*Date:* November 24, 2017 at 1:44 PM
*To:* Mercedes Discussion List 
*CC:* Andrew Strasfogel 
*Subject:* [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving to all of you folks down south of 
the border

Poutine is all the rage down here with the gastrognomes.


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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I gather the engine fries VERY quickly once all the coolant (or oil) runs
out.

On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Only if one was dumb enough to keep on driving it until it seized up. The
> blown rad or hose would be obvious so very little excuse for further abuse
> to the engine.
>
> RB
>
> On 24/11/2017 2:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> The plastic radiator necks deteriorated and snapped off.  POOF!
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> And I thought those old 617’s were almost indestructible
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <

>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
 If it overheated by being driven w/o coolant, then the engine is most
 likely toast.  My son did this to two (2) W126 300SDs

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 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

 Floyd,
>
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] 747

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

You would think that the news people would have looked at the "names" 
and seen the joke but they apparently did get the infomation from what 
should have been a good reliable source so they just paid no attention.

It is very easy to be complacent and fail to check things out for yourself.

RB

On 24/11/2017 2:21 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I practically soil myself laughing every time I see this.  From a professional 
standpoint, these people will never, ever get to live this down.

-D



On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:58 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
wrote:


‎‎Is that the one that hit the seawall?


Yep.
Bang Ding Ow
Wi Tu Low
Sum Ting Wong
Ho Lee Fuk
Were the crew.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jtxds204ZMI=em

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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Only if one was dumb enough to keep on driving it until it seized up. 
The blown rad or hose would be obvious so very little excuse for further 
abuse to the engine.


RB

On 24/11/2017 2:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

The plastic radiator necks deteriorated and snapped off.  POOF!

On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


And I thought those old 617’s were almost indestructible

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

If it overheated by being driven w/o coolant, then the engine is most
likely toast.  My son did this to two (2) W126 300SDs

On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 1:36 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Floyd,

   



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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Emphasis on the word "almost".

RB

On 24/11/2017 2:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

And I thought those old 617’s were almost indestructible

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:

If it overheated by being driven w/o coolant, then the engine is most
likely toast.  My son did this to two (2) W126 300SDs

On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 1:36 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Floyd,

 I have no idea what your comment infers.  My mechanic previously
worked for the Mercedes Dealership here in Atlanta before opening his own
shop.  Just offering some additional information.

Best Wishes,

Roger

Roger Hale



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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

If the engine is shot I have one. Buy the car cheap and drop in the TD engine 
(and even SLS!) and yer good ta go another 600k miles!

--R
Sent from iPhone

> On Nov 24, 2017, at 1:36 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Floyd,
> 
> I have no idea what your comment infers.  My mechanic previously worked 
> for the Mercedes Dealership here in Atlanta before opening his own shop.  
> Just offering some additional information.
> 
> Best Wishes,
> 
> Roger
> 
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> Monroe, Ga.
> 770-267-0850
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Chillin' Thanksgiving

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Pretty sure they will cross MD off their list soon as well

On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It appears they cover all surrounding states but not OK
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > High Tech Home Warranty in NC.  They are a little gun shy due to all my
> claims, but generally, they are honest (but not to the point of being
> stupid) and responsive.  Their chief claims dude Keith is great.
> >
> >> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> So tell me more about this.  What company do you have?  Have you had
> any problems?  My wife says we should get one for both houses but I have
> read nothing but bad reviews on everything I can find online.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 11/24/2017 1:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Might be a little late, but do you have a Homeowners Warranty?  Our
> policy
> >>> has been a godsend as we have replaced a water heater and repaired
> >>> dishwasher, washer, and dryer since moving in.  Warranty charges a $50
> co
> >>> pay per incident.  Well worth the $45 monthly premium.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  Nahh.  Cheap Canadian bastards (parent company of the utility is now
> based
>  out of Halifax, NS) dumped all of the energy conservations spiffs last
>  summer when they took over.
> 
>  I’m installing it.  While plumbing is one thing I really, really hate
>  doing, since this is in the garage I’m far more comfortable with it
> since
>  if something goes south there won’t be any damage.
> 
>  -D
> 
> 
> > On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > Will your electric company subsidize a new efficient water heater?
> Only
>  thing is around here you have to get s contractor to install it which
> kinda
>  eats any savings over DIY
> > --R
> > Sent from iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Chillin' Thanksgiving

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It appears they cover all surrounding states but not OK

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> High Tech Home Warranty in NC.  They are a little gun shy due to all my 
> claims, but generally, they are honest (but not to the point of being stupid) 
> and responsive.  Their chief claims dude Keith is great.
> 
>> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> So tell me more about this.  What company do you have?  Have you had any 
>> problems?  My wife says we should get one for both houses but I have read 
>> nothing but bad reviews on everything I can find online.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11/24/2017 1:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Might be a little late, but do you have a Homeowners Warranty?  Our policy
>>> has been a godsend as we have replaced a water heater and repaired
>>> dishwasher, washer, and dryer since moving in.  Warranty charges a $50 co
>>> pay per incident.  Well worth the $45 monthly premium.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Nahh.  Cheap Canadian bastards (parent company of the utility is now based
 out of Halifax, NS) dumped all of the energy conservations spiffs last
 summer when they took over.
 
 I’m installing it.  While plumbing is one thing I really, really hate
 doing, since this is in the garage I’m far more comfortable with it since
 if something goes south there won’t be any damage.
 
 -D
 
 
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 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Will your electric company subsidize a new efficient water heater?  Only
 thing is around here you have to get s contractor to install it which kinda
 eats any savings over DIY
> --R
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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The plastic radiator necks deteriorated and snapped off.  POOF!

On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> And I thought those old 617’s were almost indestructible
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > If it overheated by being driven w/o coolant, then the engine is most
> > likely toast.  My son did this to two (2) W126 300SDs
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 1:36 PM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Floyd,
> >>
> >> I have no idea what your comment infers.  My mechanic previously
> >> worked for the Mercedes Dealership here in Atlanta before opening his
> own
> >> shop.  Just offering some additional information.
> >>
> >> Best Wishes,
> >>
> >> Roger
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] 747

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I practically soil myself laughing every time I see this.  From a professional 
standpoint, these people will never, ever get to live this down.

-D


> On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:58 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> ‎‎Is that the one that hit the seawall?
> 
> 
> Yep. 
> Bang Ding Ow
> Wi Tu Low
> Sum Ting Wong
> Ho Lee Fuk
> Were the crew. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

And I thought those old 617’s were almost indestructible 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 24, 2017, at 2:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If it overheated by being driven w/o coolant, then the engine is most
> likely toast.  My son did this to two (2) W126 300SDs
> 
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> 
>> Floyd,
>> 
>> I have no idea what your comment infers.  My mechanic previously
>> worked for the Mercedes Dealership here in Atlanta before opening his own
>> shop.  Just offering some additional information.
>> 
>> Best Wishes,
>> 
>> Roger
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Isn’t this way too cheap?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Author seems way to knowledgeable to be giving the car away, plus he can't keep 
his story straight:

This a documented 2 Owner 280SL. 
I have the orignal pink GA title from the 2nd owner transfer from 1974. 
(doesn't sound like "I am the 2nd owner", does it? That would make it a 3 owner 
car)
One owner car (so, are you the first, second or third owner? Enquiring Minds 
want to know)

Professional restoration - Either I just spent $20,000+ restoring this car, or 
I just did $20k worth of work to it, and that's why I want to sell it for $17k.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Happy Chillin' Thanksgiving

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

High Tech Home Warranty in NC.  They are a little gun shy due to all my
claims, but generally, they are honest (but not to the point of being
stupid) and responsive.  Their chief claims dude Keith is great.

On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> So tell me more about this.  What company do you have?  Have you had any
> problems?  My wife says we should get one for both houses but I have read
> nothing but bad reviews on everything I can find online.
>
>
>
> On 11/24/2017 1:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Might be a little late, but do you have a Homeowners Warranty?  Our policy
>> has been a godsend as we have replaced a water heater and repaired
>> dishwasher, washer, and dryer since moving in.  Warranty charges a $50 co
>> pay per incident.  Well worth the $45 monthly premium.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Nahh.  Cheap Canadian bastards (parent company of the utility is now based
>>> out of Halifax, NS) dumped all of the energy conservations spiffs last
>>> summer when they took over.
>>>
>>> I’m installing it.  While plumbing is one thing I really, really hate
>>> doing, since this is in the garage I’m far more comfortable with it since
>>> if something goes south there won’t be any damage.
>>>
>>> -D
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <

>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
 Will your electric company subsidize a new efficient water heater?  Only

>>> thing is around here you have to get s contractor to install it which
>>> kinda
>>> eats any savings over DIY
>>>
 --R
 Sent from iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

If it overheated by being driven w/o coolant, then the engine is most
likely toast.  My son did this to two (2) W126 300SDs

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> Floyd,
>
>  I have no idea what your comment infers.  My mechanic previously
> worked for the Mercedes Dealership here in Atlanta before opening his own
> shop.  Just offering some additional information.
>
> Best Wishes,
>
> Roger
>
> Roger Hale
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Re: [MBZ] Isn’t this way too cheap?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

It is a scam.

Rick
  Original Message  
From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
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To: Mercedes Discussion List
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Isn’t this way too cheap?

Has a Chevy small block engine transplant.

Seriously - this could be a scam.


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Re: [MBZ] 747

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

>‎‎Is that the one that hit the seawall?


Yep. 
Bang Ding Ow
Wi Tu Low
Sum Ting Wong
Ho Lee Fuk
Were the crew. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jtxds204ZMI=em

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Isn’t this way too cheap?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Has a Chevy small block engine transplant.

Seriously - this could be a scam.

On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 10:57 AM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:

> Yes, I wonder what "Rebuilt mechanically" means?
>
> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 9:17 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > That DOES seem to be a suspiciously good price.
> >
> > On a side tangent:  Anyone know why DB AT floor shifts of that era are
> > reversed?  Seems counterintuitive to me...
> >
> > -MMM-
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > 1969 Mercedes-Benz 280SL original paint
> > >
> > > https://lawrence.craigslist.org/cto/d/1969-mercedes-benz-
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Chillin' Thanksgiving

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So tell me more about this.  What company do you have?  Have you had any 
problems?  My wife says we should get one for both houses but I have 
read nothing but bad reviews on everything I can find online.



On 11/24/2017 1:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Might be a little late, but do you have a Homeowners Warranty?  Our policy
has been a godsend as we have replaced a water heater and repaired
dishwasher, washer, and dryer since moving in.  Warranty charges a $50 co
pay per incident.  Well worth the $45 monthly premium.

On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Nahh.  Cheap Canadian bastards (parent company of the utility is now based
out of Halifax, NS) dumped all of the energy conservations spiffs last
summer when they took over.

I’m installing it.  While plumbing is one thing I really, really hate
doing, since this is in the garage I’m far more comfortable with it since
if something goes south there won’t be any damage.

-D



On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Will your electric company subsidize a new efficient water heater?  Only

thing is around here you have to get s contractor to install it which kinda
eats any savings over DIY

--R
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

We visited three different families yesterday, ending up with the
Colombians (not the drug dealer types) for a magnificent traditional
spread.  I had never had corn pudding before. That is some SICK casserole.
I am also grateful for the AMAZING lack of traffic throughout our
sojourn.across half the DMV Beltway.

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wrote:

> Happy Thanksgiving to all from Okieland!
> The turkey is in the oven, all the trimmings are either ready or waiting
> their turn for the oven, half of our kids will be here (and all the
> grandkids) as well as some family friends. The weather is great (70F and
> sunny). Much to be thankful for.
>
> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 9:47 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > That's  mean but Happy Thanksgiving to all, regardless of what you eat.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Nov 23, 2017 10:44 AM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Happy Thanksgiving to all!
> > >
> > > I suppose Andrew may skip the turkey in favor of chat ala chinois
> >  (sweet
> > > sour?)
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving to all of you folks down south of the border

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Poutine is all the rage down here with the gastrognomes.

On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes, I guess so. She has been here for 49 years.
>
> RB
>
>
> On 23/11/2017 11:45 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Sounds like she’s assimilated well.  Maybe she could get you some coffee
>> from Tim Horton’s or whip up some poutine, eh?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -D
>>
>>
>> On Nov 23, 2017, at 12:22 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> We, of course, celebrated Thanksgiving back in October. My wife is a US
>>> citizen but I was unable to convince her that she should roast me a turkey
>>> today.
>>>
>>> Hope you are all stuffed to the gills later today and able to enjoy
>>> family gatherings.
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Nice W140

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That is one butt-ugly car IMHO.

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> If you were looking for a really nice W140, this is the one to get:
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/282740244985?rmvSB=true
>
> Grand Edition.  Very well appointed.
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Chillin' Thanksgiving

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Might be a little late, but do you have a Homeowners Warranty?  Our policy
has been a godsend as we have replaced a water heater and repaired
dishwasher, washer, and dryer since moving in.  Warranty charges a $50 co
pay per incident.  Well worth the $45 monthly premium.

On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:15 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> Nahh.  Cheap Canadian bastards (parent company of the utility is now based
> out of Halifax, NS) dumped all of the energy conservations spiffs last
> summer when they took over.
>
> I’m installing it.  While plumbing is one thing I really, really hate
> doing, since this is in the garage I’m far more comfortable with it since
> if something goes south there won’t be any damage.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Nov 23, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Will your electric company subsidize a new efficient water heater?  Only
> thing is around here you have to get s contractor to install it which kinda
> eats any savings over DIY
> >
> > --R
> > Sent from iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[ROGER HALE via Mercedes]

Floyd,

 I have no idea what your comment infers.  My mechanic previously worked 
for the Mercedes Dealership here in Atlanta before opening his own shop.  Just 
offering some additional information.

Best Wishes,

Roger

Roger Hale
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[MBZ] For you bow tie guys:

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

This lady may make your MB bow ties.  Especially if you send the 
material.   Otherwise, she sells patterns and you or SWMBO can make your 
own.


http://www.narrativeatlas.com/pocket-squares/

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Re: [MBZ] 747

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Because the pilots on board seemed to only be trained to use automation to land 
and lacked basic flying skills. I just watch an air disasters episode about 
this flight. 

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> On Nov 24, 2017, at 11:10 AM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Peter wrote:
>> ...You can even slam it into a runway pier at 180 mph and nearly flip it 
>> over and still save all but a couple passengers, and was demonstrated 
>> un-intentionally at SF.
> 
> Is that the one that hit the seawall?
> tin.man
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Re: [MBZ] 747

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Wilton once wrote that the landing gear on a BUFF could be turned so the plane 
could land partially sideways. I wonder if the 747 might have the same feature? 
Wilton might know.
Gerry

MG wrote:
> Hah! I got to go down the runway sideways on one during a 
> landing. That was fun!

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Re: [MBZ] 747

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Peter wrote:
> ...You can even slam it into a runway pier at 180 mph and nearly flip it over 
> and still save all but a couple passengers, and was demonstrated 
> un-intentionally at SF.

Is that the one that hit the seawall?
tin.man

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[MBZ] Do You Know This Part of Charlestown?

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

A guy from the Frank list - tell us about Frank again, D. - Chris Jude
became the brewmaster at this place recently.  His previous distillery
was in Asheville.  He took my 1972 AR-XA turntable.  Maybe --RT & Max
can do the tour there and let him give you some nice samples?  Say
"hi" from DanG.

http://www.thirstysouth.com/2016/03/29/highwire-distilling-rum-brandy/

http://southerndistillingnews.com/distillery-tours-2/distillery-tour-high-wire-distilling-company/

mao

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Re: [MBZ] 747

[MG via Mercedes]

Hah! I got to go down the runway sideways on one during a 
landing. That was fun!



Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
I got to fly back from Entebbe, Uganda to London on one.  British 
Airways.  It was a full house.  Very snug.  I wanted to see the upper 
deck, but no dice.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
November 22, 2017 at 1:56 PM
I’ve flown on most, if not all, of the variants. -200, -300, -400. As 
you might expect, the -400s were the nicest. Got to make the trip 
across the Pond to the UK in the bunk room on the top deck one time 
because my business class seat back broke. Upper deck was full and I 
wasn’t about to go sit with the common folk downstairs. The cabin crew 
asked if I could sit in the crew bunk room since it wasn’t occupied 
(trans-Atlantic flight, only one crew) and they said, “Sure!”


That was nice. Like having a private, albeit very small, suite.

They are big honking aircraft, that’s for sure. You should stand on 
the tarmac under one some time to get an idea of their incredible size.


-D



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Re: [MBZ] Isn’t this way too cheap?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Yes, I wonder what "Rebuilt mechanically" means?

On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 9:17 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That DOES seem to be a suspiciously good price.
>
> On a side tangent:  Anyone know why DB AT floor shifts of that era are
> reversed?  Seems counterintuitive to me...
>
> -MMM-
>
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> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > 1969 Mercedes-Benz 280SL original paint
> >
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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
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Re: [MBZ] Isn’t this way too cheap?

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

That DOES seem to be a suspiciously good price.

On a side tangent:  Anyone know why DB AT floor shifts of that era are
reversed?  Seems counterintuitive to me...

-MMM-


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> 1969 Mercedes-Benz 280SL original paint
>
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> 280sl/6396668239.html
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[MBZ] Isn’t this way too cheap?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

1969 Mercedes-Benz 280SL original paint

https://lawrence.craigslist.org/cto/d/1969-mercedes-benz-280sl/6396668239.html


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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Did you overheat that?

--FT


On 11/24/17 8:55 AM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes wrote:

My mechanic once told me



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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[ROGER HALE via Mercedes]

Kaleb,

  Just some xtra info.  My mechanic once told me that if a diesel doesn't 
start and you continue trying to crank it that you will "wash down the cylinder 
walls" and lose compression and it will never start.  He said the fix is to 
remove the glow plugs, pour oil into each cylinder, replace the glow plugs and 
let it sit overnight.  He said it will now regain enough compression to start, 
assuming the glow plugs and fuel are ok and battery can spin fast enough.  It 
would seem a simple try before doing a lot of work to include replacing the 
engine.

Just a suggestion.

Best Wishes and hope you had a Happy Thanksgiving,

Roger

Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

There is always that risk but with a car as nice as this one appears, I 
would think that risk would be minimal.



On 11/24/2017 6:58 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

No, without a test drive there could be many other problems you cannot find.  
$500.



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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

$300, I’ll pull the engine from the 79 TD

--R
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> No, without a test drive there could be many other problems you cannot find.  
> $500.
> -- 
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>> On November 23, 2017 9:03:32 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>  wrote:
>> The car seems pretty nice. Worth dropping an engine in at that price?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] How bad would you have to overhear at 617 that would cause it not to start?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

No, without a test drive there could be many other problems you cannot find.  
$500.
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Charleston SC
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'95 E300

On November 23, 2017 9:03:32 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>The car seems pretty nice. Worth dropping an engine in at that price?
>

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