[MBZ] Point of Reference - ML / W163 Models

2019-06-05 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
If you ever come across one of these cars, be aware that the removal of the instrument cluster is no longer performed using the hooks. Trim has to be removed around the cluster to expose screws that hold the cluster in place. I yanked on mine for a minute this evening with the expectation of

Re: [MBZ] OT MacRumors Forums: iOS 13, macOS Catalina, and new Mac Pro

2019-06-05 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yup. And I recall the G5 cheese graters, especially the water cooled ones and what a nightmare they could be…when the cooling system leaked. I can’t hear the fans on my 5.1 unless I’m running HandBrake or rendering video. And then I just barely hear them spool up, and I don’t have to look to

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo C30 wreck

2019-06-05 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Certainly good advice on how to respond to the insco. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Wed, Jun 5, 2019, 7:02 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > A friend got in a crash this morning in her 2008 Volvo C30, that little > hatchback coupe. It was in pretty decent

Re: [MBZ] Maybe somebody needs this?

2019-06-05 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Book em Danno Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 6/5/19 7:49 PM: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/423427274876432/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] OT: How long have you been here? Csn you remember?

2019-06-05 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
Actually I'm the newer N00b. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curley McLain via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2019 4:43 PM To: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Cc: Curley McLain Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: How long have you been

Re: [MBZ] OT MacRumors Forums: iOS 13, macOS Catalina, and new Mac Pro

2019-06-05 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
My read is that the skin is not necessary for maximum cooling potential. IOW, it can run naked without damage, no matter what you do. Sounds like it can be a hot one, too. Running one of those at full roar for 8 hours a day would cost $160/yr at my house, for the electricity alone. In a 24x7

[MBZ] Maybe somebody needs this?

2019-06-05 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] OT MacRumors Forums: iOS 13, macOS Catalina, and new Mac Pro

2019-06-05 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 20:32:10 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > 1.4kw (I assume that's power supply output, not input) sounds like you > can use it as a substitute for those little electric space heaters. Indeed. If you can afford the computer, I guess you can afford the increased

Re: [MBZ] OT MacRumors Forums: iOS 13, macOS Catalina, and new Mac Pro

2019-06-05 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
dunno.   At 11 grand, I won't be buying one. Curt, what ballpark range would a similarly decked out (Spec) new winders system with appropriate licenses cost? Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote on 6/5/19 7:32 PM: On June 5, 2019 at 8:20 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote: So what does "it can run

Re: [MBZ] OT MacRumors Forums: iOS 13, macOS Catalina, and new Mac Pro

2019-06-05 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
We have a forensic workstation in our office that produces so much heat we had to run a duct to it from the air handler. It’s got four GPUs in it to do some serious number crunching. Almost as bad as a large production server for an ESX environment or a blade server rack... -D > On Jun 5,

Re: [MBZ] OT MacRumors Forums: iOS 13, macOS Catalina, and new Mac Pro

2019-06-05 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On June 5, 2019 at 8:20 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > So what does "it can run fully unconstrained without being turned off" > mean? The first Mac product that can run at maximum load without melting? 1.4kw (I assume that's power supply output, not input) sounds like you can use it as a

Re: [MBZ] OT MacRumors Forums: iOS 13, macOS Catalina, and new Mac Pro

2019-06-05 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 20:03:44 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > There is going to be a rack mount option. > > -D I found a picture of it on: https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/apple-wwdc-2019-06-03-worldwide-developers-conference-keynote-itunes-mac-ios-live-blog-today/ After the picture,

Re: [MBZ] rusted out 240D 4spd beachmobile $500 obo

2019-06-05 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
gofer it!   I wish it was closer and at the right time of the year.  I'd grab it.   Wrong place and time for me. Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 6/5/19 12:35 PM: Manual transmission with a reconditioned diesel engine. Very Rusty Body. Needs alternator and power steering belt to run. I

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo C30 wreck

2019-06-05 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On June 5, 2019 at 8:03 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > > May have to pay dealer or someone to re-program > after the airbags are replaced? After I paid somebody $40 each to clear the crash codes out of two airbag computers, I found out that somebody with a really good scan

Re: [MBZ] Small world - Benz Edition

2019-06-05 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
So what’s the Choirboy going to do now? That didn’t last long. Can’t imagine it was profitable with places like BAT. -D > On Jun 5, 2019, at 8:07 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > CHip Lamb is exiting the brokerage of high end collector cars. Maybe you > can move into some of

Re: [MBZ] Small world - Benz Edition

2019-06-05 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
CHip Lamb  is exiting the brokerage of high end collector cars.   Maybe you can move into some of the vacuum.  Don't own any, don't take delivery to keep SWMBO happy. All you need is a computer and an internet conncetion. Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 6/5/19 6:55 PM: Keep records of

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo C30 wreck

2019-06-05 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
My '95 E300 buy-back price was $300, so total check will be about $3100. Plenty more than I need to make a decent looking repair. She should pray for a total loss, get some junk-yard air bags and a door, buy you a PDR kit for $70 and you can probably make it look pretty darn decent, and she'll

Re: [MBZ] OT MacRumors Forums: iOS 13, macOS Catalina, and new Mac Pro

2019-06-05 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
There is going to be a rack mount option. -D > On Jun 5, 2019, at 7:34 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > The old Mac Pro was called a cheese grater, I don't see this one any more > grater-y than the old one. It does look like a kitchen implement though. > Still won't mount easily

Re: [MBZ] Small world - Benz Edition

2019-06-05 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Keep records of your buyers (name, contact info, addresses) so that you have a network when the time comes to re-enter "the game". - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 7:05 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The slow erosion of my parts collection

Re: [MBZ] OT: How long have you been here? Csn you remember?

2019-06-05 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
ok, you can claim the nubie award. Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote on 6/5/19 2:38 PM: My first message was sent on Oct. 2, 2006. is there a rewards program? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] OT MacRumors Forums: iOS 13, macOS Catalina, and new Mac Pro

2019-06-05 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The old Mac Pro was called a cheese grater, I don't see this one any more grater-y than the old one. It does look like a kitchen implement though. Still won't mount easily in a standard rack... -Curt On Wednesday, June 5, 2019, 6:36:15 PM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: THe

Re: [MBZ] OT Volvo C30 wreck

2019-06-05 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
If it has air bags that deploy in sets, she should replace the driver's side ones if she's going to drive it. The US cars tend to deploy head curtains in all or nothing fashion, and other side bags in full side fashion, but I don't know about Volvo. If she keeps the car and lets them mess up

Re: [MBZ] OT MacRumors Forums: iOS 13, macOS Catalina, and new Mac Pro

2019-06-05 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Actually, people I know in the business have been referring to it as the “colander”. That seems more appropriate looking at the holes in it. -D using his 5.1 cheesegrater > On Jun 5, 2019, at 6:35 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > THe mac pro cylinder is gone. > The new Mac pro

[MBZ] Small world - Benz Edition

2019-06-05 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
The slow erosion of my parts collection proceeds apace. Today I parted with a pair of speedo clusters for R107 (also w116) both mechanical, one more new with some electrical hook up to the speedo. Fellow who took them home is the guy who did the body work on Allen two years ago when the drunk

[MBZ] OT Volvo C30 wreck

2019-06-05 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
A friend got in a crash this morning in her 2008 Volvo C30, that little hatchback coupe.  It was in pretty decent condition, she took pretty good care of it.  Whatever hit it dented in the passenger door and the panel right behind the door ahead of the rear wheel.  Looks like the side airbags

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning Injectors

2019-06-05 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
Those are tempering temperatures only. Actual hardening requires cherry-red for steel. I'm sure most of you know this better than I do. And someone else mentioned self-cleaning oven, but couldn't that damage the temper of some alloys? Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Cleaning Injectors

2019-06-05 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I like the smell of gunpow der in the morning!   Hoppes #9 is a good runner up, as is the WWII GI bore cleaner. Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote on 6/5/19 12:19 PM: Personally, my preferred scent is "Wet Gun Dog", but Hoppe's is a close second. Greg

[MBZ] OT MacRumors Forums: iOS 13, macOS Catalina, and new Mac Pro

2019-06-05 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
THe mac pro cylinder is gone. The new Mac pro will be Wait for it... Called the cheese grater! Forwarded Message Apple's 2019 WWDC announcement The new Mac Pro that will be available to buy in the fall is a hot topic because of its design (the term "cheese grater"

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning Injectors

2019-06-05 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On June 5, 2019 at 3:54 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > When the dynamic duo return, you get > to say "look Honey, I cleaned the oven." ...in response to their questions about "what smells?". ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] OFFLIST Re: OT: How long have you been here? Csn you remember?

2019-06-05 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 17:28:07 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Not off list ... > On 6/5/19 3:51 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > > Andrew inquires: > > > >> My first message was sent on Oct. 2, 2006. is there a rewards > >> program? > > Yes, and no. > > If

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning Injectors

2019-06-05 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On June 5, 2019 at 3:25 PM G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > > > > So, it's not a function of simply pitching an assembled nozzle into the > barbque and waiting... General terms are 450F to 475F for time adjusted > for component size, with ramp up and cool down so metallurgy of base part > is

[MBZ] OFFLIST Re: OT: How long have you been here? Csn you remember?

2019-06-05 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! --R On 6/5/19 3:51 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Andrew inquires: My first message was sent on Oct. 2, 2006. is there a rewards program? Yes, and no. If you read all related Mercedes posts intently, and follow the advice given diligently, yes, your reward is

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning Injectors

2019-06-05 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Another reason why I really like my outdoor kitchen with a gas self cleaning oven. Now if I just had a dishwasher out there…. -D > On Jun 5, 2019, at 4:43 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > > i want to see video of how that works out..hahahaha > > The oven and house will forever smell of

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning Injectors

2019-06-05 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
i want to see video of how that works out..hahahaha The oven and house will forever smell of burning diesel, I'm sure SHMBO will forgive you. after the divorce is final... ;)) On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 12:55 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Basically, send

Re: [MBZ] Compressor or expansion valve?

2019-06-05 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I tried an experiment and hit the defrost button, and got a nice blast of heat, so my clamp-off of the heater hose is not effective, and my problem could be improper signaling to the monovalve to turn on the heat. However, after thinking about failure modes, if the expansion valve opened up wide

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning Injectors

2019-06-05 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Basically, send SWMBO, and SWMBOette out for lunch, pitch the injector parts in the oven, put it on "self clean" and see what happens. When the dynamic duo return, you get to say "look Honey, I cleaned the oven." Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] OT: How long have you been here? Csn you remember?

2019-06-05 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
In other words - priceless. On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 3:52 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Andrew inquires: > > >My first message was sent on Oct. 2, 2006. is there a rewards program? > > Yes, and no. > If you read all related Mercedes posts intently, and follow the

Re: [MBZ] OT: How long have you been here? Csn you remember?

2019-06-05 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Andrew inquires: >My first message was sent on Oct. 2, 2006. is there a rewards program? Yes, and no. If you read all related Mercedes posts intently, and follow the advice given diligently, yes, your reward is becoming a highly informed classic Mercedes aficionado. If you read all related

Re: [MBZ] OT: How long have you been here? Csn you remember?

2019-06-05 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
My first message was sent on Oct. 2, 2006. is there a rewards program? On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 12:52 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I am not entirely sure how long I have been reading this forum. I looked > back, and determined that I acquired the 76 300D in

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning Injectors

2019-06-05 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
OK thanks! - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 3:26 PM G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Hard question, since the component parts are multiple different materials > and to truly restore to the FAA requirement of "As good or better than new > manufacturer standards" required

[MBZ] Stack fail

2019-06-05 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Actually the turbo failed, still pretty cool. https://jalopnik.com/how-to-transform-a-fire-charred-runaway-diesel-into-a-p-1835237957 - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning Injectors

2019-06-05 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Hard question, since the component parts are multiple different materials and to truly restore to the FAA requirement of "As good or better than new manufacturer standards" required dismantle to component level, then each component held at temp without damage to the base material. So, it's not a

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning Injectors

2019-06-05 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Grant - what is the specified time and temperature for baking injectors? - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 1:41 PM G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Both the short and long answer to that question is "NO". > > For a nozzle to convert a liquid to atomized droplets requires very

Re: [MBZ] Stacked

2019-06-05 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On June 5, 2019 at 1:09 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > Not the least of which reasons is the soot on the windshield ... I thought of that after I sent my message. Do these kids really want their windshields to look like their taillights? Maybe they do. "it's not illegally tinted,

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning Injectors

2019-06-05 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I hadn't heard of #9 injector cleaner before this month so I haven't tried it, but the stuff Grant describes on diesel injectors sounds more like what #9 is designed to remove (combustion residue) than the varnish on vergasser injectors. Mitch. > On June 5, 2019 at 1:07 PM Dan--- via

Re: [MBZ] rusted out 240D 4spd beachmobile $500 obo

2019-06-05 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Yeah that's what I was thinking.  Guy just wants to be rid of it, $300 and it's gone, then flip it to one of the FakeBook boys for whatever nonsense they might have in mind.  Or put it in this 78 300CD I have?   h --FT On 6/5/19 1:51 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote: I just sold a

Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Cleaning Injectors

2019-06-05 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
I'm with you, "Wet Gun Dog" however, was found objectionable by 11 of my 13 ex wives ;)) On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 10:20 AM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Personally, my preferred scent is "Wet Gun Dog", but Hoppe's is a close > second. > > Greg > > -Original

Re: [MBZ] rusted out 240D 4spd beachmobile $500 obo

2019-06-05 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
I just sold a three pedal set up from my parts stash for $450. No car included, just the bits clay monroe > I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm > looking for didn't fall out. > On Jun 5, 2019, at 10:47 AM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > Manual

Re: [MBZ] rusted out 240D 4spd beachmobile $500 obo

2019-06-05 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Manual trans and all the bits to make a 3 peddle car are worth $500, I would think. Throw a fresh battery in it... crank it up and drive it total loss charging system on the U Haul trailer. On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 10:36 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Manual

Re: [MBZ] Should I buy Rondo Famgoon's E500?

2019-06-05 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
There are two bottom feeder specials on the list. An almost k’leb price 240 manual, and a w201 with grille damage and bent hood, also stick for a bit over $1k clay On Jun 5, 2019, at 8:25 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: > > On 04/06/2019 6:10 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote: >>

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning Injectors

2019-06-05 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Both the short and long answer to that question is "NO". For a nozzle to convert a liquid to atomized droplets requires very close tolerances between a number of components inside the nozzle. Carbon is a strong material that doesn't "dissolve easily" and when baked on in the heat and pressure of

[MBZ] rusted out 240D 4spd beachmobile $500 obo

2019-06-05 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Manual transmission with a reconditioned diesel engine. Very Rusty Body. Needs alternator and power steering belt to run. I purchased the belt but wasn't able to reach/loosen the bolt to install it. The car was used fairly regularly up until 9 months ago as surfing/boating car around Tybee

[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Cleaning Injectors

2019-06-05 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
Personally, my preferred scent is "Wet Gun Dog", but Hoppe's is a close second. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan--- via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2019 10:08 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: d...@penoff.com

Re: [MBZ] Should I buy Rondo Famgoon's E500?

2019-06-05 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
That has been done once or twice. Mostly folks find something near me, and then I make sure it is worth their time to come fetch it. No charge, as it keeps me from taking the things home clay monroe > I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm > looking

Re: [MBZ] Stacked

2019-06-05 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 5 Jun 2019 08:03:02 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > Why would you run the exhaust out the hood? > Possible answers: > 1. you need to drive through more than 2' of water on occasion. > 2. you're a moron. > 3. all of the above. > > Side pipes are silly looking, but can be

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning Injectors

2019-06-05 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
But more importantly, can you clean your Jet A nozzles with Hoppe’s? I like to dab a little behind each ear for that “just came from the range” smell. -D > On Jun 5, 2019, at 12:58 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > Just happens, I have more than passing experience with fuel nozzles used

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning Injectors

2019-06-05 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Just happens, I have more than passing experience with fuel nozzles used in Jet A environment and Diesel engines. [Jet A and No 2 diesel are nearly identical except Jet A has additives to retard gel point [it's cold at altitude] ] Bottom line, in BOTH uses, the nozzles become coated with coke and

Re: [MBZ] OT: How long have you been here? Csn you remember?

2019-06-05 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I am not entirely sure how long I have been reading this forum. I looked back, and determined that I acquired the 76  300D in July 2005. I think I joined this list soon after that. I might have done so before I bought the car as it was something I considered doing for a long while. I had

Re: [MBZ] Should I buy Rondo Famgoon's E500?

2019-06-05 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 04/06/2019 6:10 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote: P*ss Off! You guys have no idea how much effort is has take to keep me from trotting off to bring all manner of stray Benz home these past few weeks. There is a sweet Euro W123 with all the analog goodness just screaming for me to roll

Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Kaleb, MB SUV Carfax Please?

2019-06-05 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 04/06/2019 5:47 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote: Probably the same bunch with ocean going barges are dragging things to the islands as well as the great white north. I am afeared of learning how much gold nuggets I will need to procure to get the SL north so that I might enjoy summer

Re: [MBZ] Stacked

2019-06-05 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
It is cheaper than buying a new exhaust system if your pipes and muffler have rotted out? On 05/06/2019 7:03 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Why would you run the exhaust out the hood? Possible answers: 1. you need to drive through more than 2' of water on occasion. 2. you're a moron. 3.

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning Injectors

2019-06-05 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 22:57:07 -0600 Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jun 2019 23:53:22 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Now, a lot of you are (gasp) now driving vergassers - which in most > > cases now have injectors - hence the post in the first place. After > > all, what's not to

Re: [MBZ] Stacked

2019-06-05 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Why would you run the exhaust out the hood? Possible answers: 1. you need to drive through more than 2' of water on occasion. 2. you're a moron. 3. all of the above. Side pipes are silly looking, but can be functional. Vertical stacks in the way of the driver's vision do not belong on street