Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

2019-07-10 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Pith helmet?

https://youtu.be/0iRTB-FTMdk

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On July 10, 2019 10:18:33 PM EDT, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Yes i loved my pith helmet- not sure what happened to it.
>
>Dwight Giles Jr.
>Wickford RI
>
>On Wed, Jul 10, 2019, 8:59 PM Dan--- via Mercedes
>
>wrote:
>
>> I wear a pith helmet when I go outside around here, and have worn
>hats of
>> one form or another in the years I worked outdoors.
>>
>> I have a really nice Akubra hat I got when I was In Australia but I
>rarely
>> wear it as I’ve always been afraid I would mess it up...
>>
>> -D
>>
>> On Jul 10, 2019, at 8:18 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> the Indiana Jones style hats (whatever the formal name is for that
>> style)
>> >
>> > Fedora.
>> >
>> > -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT Solar and Wind Power - another view

2019-07-10 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
All good points regarding building and handling nuke materials, well laid
out and supported...

Here is a link to Chernobyl with radiation readings , bloom pattern of
radiation, with readings, etc etc... Seems factual, and supported by hands
on by people who visited "recently"

http://www.chernobylgallery.com/chernobyl-disaster/radiation-levels/

Still won't choose to live there mistakes were made, lies were told,
disaster happened now 25 yrs later, not a good place to be.

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 7:20 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/05/09/the-reason-they-fictionalize-nuclear-disasters-like-chernobyl-is-because-they-kill-so-few-people/#6008e93041fc
>
>
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/06/06/why-hbos-chernobyl-gets-nuclear-so-wrong/#7d2cbd7e632f
>
> Or you can go to https://www.glennbeck.com/st/podcast and listen
> to/download the 7/9/19 program.
>
> Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 7/10/19 7:54 AM:
> > One of the founders of Green Peace (who has left the organization) has
> come
> > around to promoting nuclear power, I think his new organization is called
> > Green Spirit.  That might be the guy.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Solar and Wind Power - another view

2019-07-10 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/05/09/the-reason-they-fictionalize-nuclear-disasters-like-chernobyl-is-because-they-kill-so-few-people/#6008e93041fc

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/06/06/why-hbos-chernobyl-gets-nuclear-so-wrong/#7d2cbd7e632f

Or you can go to https://www.glennbeck.com/st/podcast and listen 
to/download the 7/9/19 program.


Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 7/10/19 7:54 AM:

One of the founders of Green Peace (who has left the organization) has come
around to promoting nuclear power, I think his new organization is called
Green Spirit.  That might be the guy.
-
Max
Charleston SC






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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

2019-07-10 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Yes i loved my pith helmet- not sure what happened to it.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019, 8:59 PM Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I wear a pith helmet when I go outside around here, and have worn hats of
> one form or another in the years I worked outdoors.
>
> I have a really nice Akubra hat I got when I was In Australia but I rarely
> wear it as I’ve always been afraid I would mess it up...
>
> -D
>
> On Jul 10, 2019, at 8:18 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >> the Indiana Jones style hats (whatever the formal name is for that
> style)
> >
> > Fedora.
> >
> > -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT Solar and Wind Power - another view

2019-07-10 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
G Mann wrote:
> The radiation levels at ground level is far above human limits water
> even more. Food stocks grown in the area concentrate more non human
> levels

yes, etc, etc = all bad.  Flight a century ago was all bad too.  The
old people there all seem healthy.  Maybe they are video plants? i.e.
LARP
Challenge does not seem as bad as some other dangers in life, such as
immunizations, pharma, medicine.
tin

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Re: [MBZ] OT Solar and Wind Power - another view

2019-07-10 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
The radiation levels at ground level is far above human limits water
even more. Food stocks grown in the area concentrate more non human
levels Incidents of radiation induced or related cancers are far above
the world wide norms for non nuke contaminated areas same for birth
defects.
Sure, land is cheap... build out a housing development with a HOA. "No
glowing in the dark allowed"... perhaps.
Think I'll choose to pass on living there.


On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 6:41 PM Mountain Man via Mercedes <
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> Curley wrote:
> > THERE IS A greeniw weenie out there who is promoting nukes.  He was on
> > Beck this  morning.  I don't remember his name.   He is debunking the
> > movie about the ruskies melt-down.   Interesting stuff.
>
> Chernobyl always seems to be the place to be.  Modern until the
> meltdown, secluded, few people brave to do life there - all seems
> challenging.  What's bad about challenge?  Challenge promotes
> ingenuity and invention.  Initial desire to go there began 15 years
> ago from youtube of motorcycle rider video.  Old persons living in the
> woods all seemed healthy.  Still seems a rational place to be
> regardless of the "horror story" MSM presents.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Solar and Wind Power - another view

2019-07-10 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Curley wrote:
> THERE IS A greeniw weenie out there who is promoting nukes.  He was on
> Beck this  morning.  I don't remember his name.   He is debunking the
> movie about the ruskies melt-down.   Interesting stuff.

Chernobyl always seems to be the place to be.  Modern until the
meltdown, secluded, few people brave to do life there - all seems
challenging.  What's bad about challenge?  Challenge promotes
ingenuity and invention.  Initial desire to go there began 15 years
ago from youtube of motorcycle rider video.  Old persons living in the
woods all seemed healthy.  Still seems a rational place to be
regardless of the "horror story" MSM presents.
tin

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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

2019-07-10 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
5 inch brim is my hat of choice, for good shade. Last time I was at the
Reno Air Races while Bob Hoover was there, he complimented the hat, and
offered to trade with me now wish I had. Bob always had his trademark
hat, for the same reasons I wear one, shade and sun damage protection.
Like you, I keep a ball cap in the plane, for eye shade, the big hat hangs
off the back of the seat for while I'm on the ramp, where ever I am. Since
I plan to live a lot longer, the skin doc and I visit every 6 months, just
to keep early detection going... [and likely to make sure his children's
tuition is paid in college.]

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 3:39 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I wear fully brimmed hats year round, light weight in the summer, full
> leather Aussie style in the winter. I only wear ball caps when flying as I
> can't get the headset on over the wide brims, and need the eye shade in the
> morning and evening times. I complained to my dermatologist last time that
> even though I ALWAYS wear a hat outside, I still had a dozen spots to be
> frozen off. He said that I should see how many spots he has to freeze on
> the guys who refuse to wear a hat. The explanation for my case is that the
> damage was done many years before I started wearing a hat, which was about
> the time I bought the MGA (age 21) - hair got really tangled and blowing
> into my eyes without a hat.
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 4:34 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > On 10/07/2019 12:29 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> > > Having lived at an earlier time ...
> > >
> > > Segway forward to modern era, and look for a place to "hang your
> hat"
> > > they don't exist.
> > > Further, dining tables are now very landscape challenged. There is no
> > place
> > > to lay your hat and eat a meal. Thus, I posit the culture adapted to
> the
> > > conditions imposed and shifted to keeping your hat parked on your
> head...
> > > hair or not.
> > >
> >
> > I suggest that the reason that there are no places to put hats is
> > because people stopped wearing them rather than the other way around.
> >
> > I sort of like hats but I am not sure they look good on me. I have some
> > Tilley style hats with brims all way around that I wear if I am in the
> > sun (or once in a while if I need to work outside in the rain) but have
> > never favoured ball caps. I have tried on some of the Indiana Jones
> > style hats (whatever the formal name is for that style) but have yet to
> > talk myself into buying one.
> >
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> OK Don
>
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] OT Solar and Wind Power - another view

2019-07-10 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Andrew wrote:
> ... I worked in the uranium fuel cycle
> and production division in my first fed gov job (DOE).

I prepared a competing DOE hydro permit application for Ruedi
Reservoir.  Water rights, but the reservoir was... who knows? more
energy harvest dirt to create? ...dunno.  Energy is dirty.
tin

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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

2019-07-10 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
-D wrote:
> I have a really nice Akubra hat...

Me too - Akubra from LLBean, sold as Snowy River hat.  All beat up
after 30-years of use, holes and all but generally the rabbit fur felt
makes a great hat.
tin

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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

2019-07-10 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
I wear a pith helmet when I go outside around here, and have worn hats of one 
form or another in the years I worked outdoors.

I have a really nice Akubra hat I got when I was In Australia but I rarely wear 
it as I’ve always been afraid I would mess it up...

-D

On Jul 10, 2019, at 8:18 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
wrote:

>> the Indiana Jones style hats (whatever the formal name is for that style)
> 
> Fedora.
> 
> -- Jim
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OBDII reader

2019-07-10 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Gotcha. The drawback of modern communication. And my failure to comprehend

-D

On Jul 10, 2019, at 6:57 PM, fmiser via Mercedes  wrote:

 Floyd wrote:
>>> 
 I'm looking at the MB Star systems right now, about $600 with
 a laptop to run the software, and the mux to talk to the car.
 These OBD things won't do all the things on the Benzes but
 the MB Star will do all of it.  The issue though is that the
 MB Star system doesn't talk to any other cars, so you kinda
 need both I guess if you want to work on a range of cars.  
> 
>>> Wow.  
>>> 
>>> The reader I have is a real bargain in comparison.  And it
>>> works equally well with the factory systems on all the cars I
>>> own!  I get full interface to all the computer controlled
>>> systems for both diagnostics and even tweaking and modifying
>>> for the engine and the entire chassis!!  And a really great
>>> feature is the user interface is exactly the same for all the
>>> the engines!!  OM616, OM617, 6.2L Detroit, Chevy 350 CID with
>>> a carburetor...
> 
>> Dan wrote:
> 
>> Who makes it?
> 
> It appears you are asking about mine, not the one Floyd is looking
> at.
> 
> Did you read the whole post?  *smiles*   It's a joke.  Poking fun
> at all the modern computer managed automobiles.
> 
> What sort of computer management does the OM616, OM617, Detroit
> 6.2, and Chevy carburetor have?
> 
> The answer is "none".  So notice that I carefully wrote the
> description - with no computer controlled systems it connects
> "equally well" - that is nil.  And the non-existent user
> interface is identically non-existent for all of them.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

2019-07-10 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> the Indiana Jones style hats (whatever the formal name is for that style)

Fedora.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

2019-07-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

You mean Mexicans?  Illegal or otherwise.  Build the wall.

On 7/10/2019 4:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I have to ask:

What persuasion are the workers with the lawn services?

Many in this part of the world are from south of the border. I wondered if they 
were as prevalent in the same industry in AK.

-D



On Jul 10, 2019, at 4:39 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes  
wrote:

There has been great heat in ANC this past week.  The bulk of the neighbors are 
pasty white and afeared of the blazing ball of heat in the sky, so cover 
themselves fully.  I tried that for a few minutes then gave up.  Been shirtless 
working in the yard and puttering around the ‘hood.  There might be HOA rules 
against this, but I have not heard.  I do get disapproving glances for sitting 
on the front porch in my swim trunks with an ice cold beer.  I guess I could 
frolic in the sprinkler in the front yard instead, but SWMBA does not water her 
lawn.  Most of the neighbors subscribe to yard service, which sends an armada 
of mowers to assault the lawns once each week.

clay


On Jul 9, 2019, at 1:13 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
wrote:

What a great idea!  Men should were suits, and a nice hat of course.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

On July 9, 2019 4:32:52 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes

Are the ladies all required to wear dresses just like the photos of
suburbia in the 50's?


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Re: [MBZ] OBDII reader

2019-07-10 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> > > Floyd wrote:
> > 
> > > I'm looking at the MB Star systems right now, about $600 with
> > > a laptop to run the software, and the mux to talk to the car.
> > > These OBD things won't do all the things on the Benzes but
> > > the MB Star will do all of it.  The issue though is that the
> > > MB Star system doesn't talk to any other cars, so you kinda
> > > need both I guess if you want to work on a range of cars.  

> > Wow.  
> > 
> > The reader I have is a real bargain in comparison.  And it
> > works equally well with the factory systems on all the cars I
> > own!  I get full interface to all the computer controlled
> > systems for both diagnostics and even tweaking and modifying
> > for the engine and the entire chassis!!  And a really great
> > feature is the user interface is exactly the same for all the
> > the engines!!  OM616, OM617, 6.2L Detroit, Chevy 350 CID with
> > a carburetor...

> Dan wrote:

> Who makes it?

It appears you are asking about mine, not the one Floyd is looking
at.

Did you read the whole post?  *smiles*   It's a joke.  Poking fun
at all the modern computer managed automobiles.

What sort of computer management does the OM616, OM617, Detroit
6.2, and Chevy carburetor have?

The answer is "none".  So notice that I carefully wrote the
description - with no computer controlled systems it connects
"equally well" - that is nil.  And the non-existent user
interface is identically non-existent for all of them.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

2019-07-10 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I wear fully brimmed hats year round, light weight in the summer, full
leather Aussie style in the winter. I only wear ball caps when flying as I
can't get the headset on over the wide brims, and need the eye shade in the
morning and evening times. I complained to my dermatologist last time that
even though I ALWAYS wear a hat outside, I still had a dozen spots to be
frozen off. He said that I should see how many spots he has to freeze on
the guys who refuse to wear a hat. The explanation for my case is that the
damage was done many years before I started wearing a hat, which was about
the time I bought the MGA (age 21) - hair got really tangled and blowing
into my eyes without a hat.

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 4:34 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On 10/07/2019 12:29 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> > Having lived at an earlier time ...
> >
> > Segway forward to modern era, and look for a place to "hang your hat"
> > they don't exist.
> > Further, dining tables are now very landscape challenged. There is no
> place
> > to lay your hat and eat a meal. Thus, I posit the culture adapted to the
> > conditions imposed and shifted to keeping your hat parked on your head...
> > hair or not.
> >
>
> I suggest that the reason that there are no places to put hats is
> because people stopped wearing them rather than the other way around.
>
> I sort of like hats but I am not sure they look good on me. I have some
> Tilley style hats with brims all way around that I wear if I am in the
> sun (or once in a while if I need to work outside in the rain) but have
> never favoured ball caps. I have tried on some of the Indiana Jones
> style hats (whatever the formal name is for that style) but have yet to
> talk myself into buying one.
>
>
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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] I Have No Words

2019-07-10 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
He has a good point. You could start ubering and make a killing 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Jul 10, 2019, at 5:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey Grant!
> 
> You need to diversify your trollees.  This is getting old.
> 
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 5:04 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> Well then a solution to the HOA problem if having a pickup truck parked
>> in your driveway.
>> Throw a fresh coat of house paint on it with a hand roller, and it's a
>> "soccer mom grocery getter".
>> OR a perfect commute car for Andrew, now that he lives in the flooded
>> swamp of DC.
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 1:59 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Mismatch.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 4:52 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

2019-07-10 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 10/07/2019 12:29 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Having lived at an earlier time ...

Segway forward to modern era, and look for a place to "hang your hat"
they don't exist.
Further, dining tables are now very landscape challenged. There is no place
to lay your hat and eat a meal. Thus, I posit the culture adapted to the
conditions imposed and shifted to keeping your hat parked on your head...
hair or not.



I suggest that the reason that there are no places to put hats is 
because people stopped wearing them rather than the other way around.


I sort of like hats but I am not sure they look good on me. I have some 
Tilley style hats with brims all way around that I wear if I am in the 
sun (or once in a while if I need to work outside in the rain) but have 
never favoured ball caps. I have tried on some of the Indiana Jones 
style hats (whatever the formal name is for that style) but have yet to 
talk myself into buying one.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

2019-07-10 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
The mix is toward caucasians on summer job with a few supervisors with brown 
eyes and dark hair.  The business is year round to plow snow and then mow lawns 
when there is no snow to be had.  The supervisors drive, the white boys mow, 
rake, spread fertilizer.  No lolly-gagging, a very well oiled military machine 
sweeping blitzkreig through the yards. 

clay

> On Jul 10, 2019, at 1:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I have to ask:
> 
> What persuasion are the workers with the lawn services?
> 
> Many in this part of the world are from south of the border. I wondered if 
> they were as prevalent in the same industry in AK.
> 
> -D

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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

2019-07-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I have to ask:

What persuasion are the workers with the lawn services?

Many in this part of the world are from south of the border. I wondered if they 
were as prevalent in the same industry in AK.

-D 


> On Jul 10, 2019, at 4:39 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> There has been great heat in ANC this past week.  The bulk of the neighbors 
> are pasty white and afeared of the blazing ball of heat in the sky, so cover 
> themselves fully.  I tried that for a few minutes then gave up.  Been 
> shirtless working in the yard and puttering around the ‘hood.  There might be 
> HOA rules against this, but I have not heard.  I do get disapproving glances 
> for sitting on the front porch in my swim trunks with an ice cold beer.  I 
> guess I could frolic in the sprinkler in the front yard instead, but SWMBA 
> does not water her lawn.  Most of the neighbors subscribe to yard service, 
> which sends an armada of mowers to assault the lawns once each week.  
> 
> clay
> 
>> On Jul 9, 2019, at 1:13 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> What a great idea!  Men should were suits, and a nice hat of course.
>> -- 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> On July 9, 2019 4:32:52 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>> Are the ladies all required to wear dresses just like the photos of 
>>> suburbia in the 50's?
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I Have No Words

2019-07-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Hey Grant!

You need to diversify your trollees.  This is getting old.

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 5:04 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Well then a solution to the HOA problem if having a pickup truck parked
> in your driveway.
> Throw a fresh coat of house paint on it with a hand roller, and it's a
> "soccer mom grocery getter".
> OR a perfect commute car for Andrew, now that he lives in the flooded
> swamp of DC.
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 1:59 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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>
> > Mismatch.
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 4:52 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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Re: [MBZ] I Have No Words

2019-07-10 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Well then a solution to the HOA problem if having a pickup truck parked
in your driveway.
Throw a fresh coat of house paint on it with a hand roller, and it's a
"soccer mom grocery getter".
OR a perfect commute car for Andrew, now that he lives in the flooded
swamp of DC.

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> Mismatch.
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 4:52 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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Re: [MBZ] I Have No Words

2019-07-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Mismatch.

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[MBZ] I Have No Words

2019-07-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/469034690326650/

-D

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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

2019-07-10 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
There has been great heat in ANC this past week.  The bulk of the neighbors are 
pasty white and afeared of the blazing ball of heat in the sky, so cover 
themselves fully.  I tried that for a few minutes then gave up.  Been shirtless 
working in the yard and puttering around the ‘hood.  There might be HOA rules 
against this, but I have not heard.  I do get disapproving glances for sitting 
on the front porch in my swim trunks with an ice cold beer.  I guess I could 
frolic in the sprinkler in the front yard instead, but SWMBA does not water her 
lawn.  Most of the neighbors subscribe to yard service, which sends an armada 
of mowers to assault the lawns once each week.  

clay

> On Jul 9, 2019, at 1:13 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> What a great idea!  Men should were suits, and a nice hat of course.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> On July 9, 2019 4:32:52 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>> Are the ladies all required to wear dresses just like the photos of 
>> suburbia in the 50's?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OBDII reader

2019-07-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Who makes it?

And I’m wondering if you can get into proprietary systems like transmissions 
and see things like clutch fill times, or RST (soft top) systems?

That’s the real Achilles heel of non-MB diagnostic systems, like CarSoft. 
They’ll get you a part of the information, but can’t get a lot of the really 
deep stuff or read systems that are unique to a given chassis or model.

-D



> On Jul 10, 2019, at 1:53 PM, fmiser via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> Floyd wrote:
> 
>> I'm looking at the MB Star systems right now, about $600 with a
>> laptop to run the software, and the mux to talk to the car.
>> These OBD things won't do all the things on the Benzes but the
>> MB Star will do all of it.  The issue though is that the MB Star
>> system doesn't talk to any other cars, so you kinda need both I
>> guess if you want to work on a range of cars.  
> 
> Wow.  
> 
> The reader I have is a real bargain in comparison.  And it works
> equally well with the factory systems on all the cars I own!  I
> get full interface to all the computer controlled systems for both
> diagnostics and even tweaking and modifying for the engine and the
> entire chassis!!  And a really great feature is the user interface
> is exactly the same for all the the engines!!  OM616, OM617, 6.2L
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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

2019-07-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Clay, you need to move East!

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 4:32 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> SWMBA has HOA that prohibits yard signs, among many other silly things.
> She was forced to pull her sign promoting keeping enviro-weinies from
> taking over the state.
>
> I was overwhelmed with the malign proliferation of virtue signaling
> signage all over the routes of my morning constitutional in SEA.  They love
> their black/arab/gay/trans/pedo/jihadi neighbors, have no hate in their
> homes, assorted rainbow tinted blather verbiage, antifa, speeding, kids,
> rainwise gardens, city endorsed group speak, and a plethora of other
> political or virtue professing garbage.  The craftsperson placards were not
> as obnoxious.
>
> Seattle seems the town of the tesla, boxy people kennel sporting solar
> panels, astro turf grounds with a virtue sign or three in the yard and a
> “free Library” fixture every four homes along a street.
>
>
> clay.
>
>
>
> > On Jul 9, 2019, at 12:05 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I guess because this is a residential neighborhood, and the line on signs
> > has to be drawn somewhere.  If signs on vehicles are allowed, then you'll
> > need to impose more rules to limit them so as to prevent driving
> > billboards.  Avoid the whole mess, just say "no signs".   I guess our
> rules
> > are intended to make sure the look and feel is one of perfect suburbia...
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OBDII reader

2019-07-10 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> > > Floyd wrote:
> > > I'm looking at the MB Star systems right now, about $600 with
> > > a laptop to run the software, and the mux to talk to the car.

> > fmiser wrote:
> >
> > The reader I have is a real bargain in comparison.  ...
> > OM616, OM617, 6.2L Detroit, Chevy 350 CID with a carburetor...

> Rich wrote:

> haha I built some little circuit using a resistor and transistor
> to read in real time the performance of my 87 Blazer that had
> the TBI and some computer that ran it (ALDR?).

That's pretty cool.

I rigged an analog meter for my sisters car, probably about the
same year.  It had a PWM controlled fuel control in the
carburetor.  The meter let us see how much it was shifting the
fuel flow.  I think we may have also put an LED on to monitor the
torque converter clutch.  What I don't remember is what problem we
were chasing that inspired me to build those. 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

2019-07-10 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
SWMBA has HOA that prohibits yard signs, among many other silly things.  She 
was forced to pull her sign promoting keeping enviro-weinies from taking over 
the state.

I was overwhelmed with the malign proliferation of virtue signaling signage all 
over the routes of my morning constitutional in SEA.  They love their 
black/arab/gay/trans/pedo/jihadi neighbors, have no hate in their homes, 
assorted rainbow tinted blather verbiage, antifa, speeding, kids, rainwise 
gardens, city endorsed group speak, and a plethora of other political or virtue 
professing garbage.  The craftsperson placards were not as obnoxious.

Seattle seems the town of the tesla, boxy people kennel sporting solar panels, 
astro turf grounds with a virtue sign or three in the yard and a “free Library” 
fixture every four homes along a street.


clay.



> On Jul 9, 2019, at 12:05 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I guess because this is a residential neighborhood, and the line on signs
> has to be drawn somewhere.  If signs on vehicles are allowed, then you'll
> need to impose more rules to limit them so as to prevent driving
> billboards.  Avoid the whole mess, just say "no signs".   I guess our rules
> are intended to make sure the look and feel is one of perfect suburbia...
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] OBDII reader

2019-07-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
haha I built some little circuit using a resistor and transistor to read 
in real time the performance of my 87 Blazer that had the TBI and some 
computer that ran it (ALDR?).  Some Swedish or Norwegian guy had 
writtten a little software program that would read the data on a serial 
port on a laptop and display stuff in real time.  It was actually kinda 
entertaining.  I think I recall it plugging into an OBD port


--R

On 7/10/19 1:53 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:

Floyd wrote:
I'm looking at the MB Star systems right now, about $600 with a
laptop to run the software, and the mux to talk to the car.
These OBD things won't do all the things on the Benzes but the
MB Star will do all of it.  The issue though is that the MB Star
system doesn't talk to any other cars, so you kinda need both I
guess if you want to work on a range of cars.

Wow.

The reader I have is a real bargain in comparison.  And it works
equally well with the factory systems on all the cars I own!  I
get full interface to all the computer controlled systems for both
diagnostics and even tweaking and modifying for the engine and the
entire chassis!!  And a really great feature is the user interface
is exactly the same for all the the engines!!  OM616, OM617, 6.2L
Detroit, Chevy 350 CID with a carburetor...

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Re: [MBZ] OBDII reader

2019-07-10 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Floyd wrote:

> I'm looking at the MB Star systems right now, about $600 with a
> laptop to run the software, and the mux to talk to the car.
> These OBD things won't do all the things on the Benzes but the
> MB Star will do all of it.  The issue though is that the MB Star
> system doesn't talk to any other cars, so you kinda need both I
> guess if you want to work on a range of cars.  

Wow.  

The reader I have is a real bargain in comparison.  And it works
equally well with the factory systems on all the cars I own!  I
get full interface to all the computer controlled systems for both
diagnostics and even tweaking and modifying for the engine and the
entire chassis!!  And a really great feature is the user interface
is exactly the same for all the the engines!!  OM616, OM617, 6.2L
Detroit, Chevy 350 CID with a carburetor...

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Re: [MBZ] OBDII reader

2019-07-10 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I'm looking at the MB Star systems right now, about $600 with a laptop 
to run the software, and the mux to talk to the car.  These OBD things 
won't do all the things on the Benzes but the MB Star will do all of 
it.  The issue though is that the MB Star system doesn't talk to any 
other cars, so you kinda need both I guess if you want to work on a 
range of cars.  Plus there are variations of software that work with 
certain years, I think, still trying to discern that from the vendor.



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On 7/10/19 12:06 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Anyone have experience with the "Pro" scanners from Harbor Fright?

https://www.harborfreight.com/zr-pro-professional-automotive-scanner-64576.html

or the lesser models such as

https://www.harborfreight.com/zr13-obd2-code-reader-with-abssrsfixassist-63806.html



Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:


I borrow a Soleus Ultra from a friendly indy when the need arises.
Looks like used ones go for around $1000 on eBay.
  

On July 10, 2019 at 10:31 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
wrote:
What pro scanner do you have?

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Re: [MBZ] OT Solar and Wind Power - another view

2019-07-10 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Did you watch it?  My understanding (which these days is fungible, 
apparently, depending on who is telling the tale) is that it pretty much 
followed the actual sequence of events and the influence of the players 
involved, based on reports from the players who were there.  But who 
knows, though it did really upset the Soviets, er, Russians.


--FT

On 7/10/19 10:16 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

And it was apparently mostly BS propaganda.

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 7/10/19 8:22 AM:
That Chernobyl show was scary, mostly because it was mostly all due 
to bureaucracy with a small part due to the design.  There is a 
podcast to go along with it, very interesting, a lot more detail.


--FT




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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

2019-07-10 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Having lived at an earlier time when ALL men wore hats, and removed them at
the door, I offer this observation of modern culture.
At the earlier time, every place you went into had hat racks, so you could
"park your hat" while doing business.

Segway forward to modern era, and look for a place to "hang your hat"
they don't exist.
Further, dining tables are now very landscape challenged. There is no place
to lay your hat and eat a meal. Thus, I posit the culture adapted to the
conditions imposed and shifted to keeping your hat parked on your head...
hair or not.

Living in Arizona, where we have 363 days each year of full sun, I always
wear a palm leaf wide brim hat [the only good ones are hand made in
Guatemala] . I own several, all the same, and I wear one even if I go to
the mail box even though I have a full head of hair. In fact, gave one to
my dermatologist, which he loves.

The hats take up a lot of landscape [20 inches brim to brim], if you try to
park them in a restaurant, so I always eat with my hat on...
Unless there is a hat check valet...;))

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 10:01 AM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> No, hair loss causes wearing a hat. Mostly due to the cooking of the brain
> in direct sun and skin cancers that have to be frozen off.
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:56 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Maybe wearing a hat causes hair loss?
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:20 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I have coffee with a group of old fellows pretty much daily. The
> fellows
> > > wearing hats are all balding. There are a couple bald ones without hats
> > > but none of the fellows with a full head of hair wear hats. Maybe just
> a
> > > case of them protecting their bald heads when outdoors and carried over
> > > into the McDonald's but still sort of interesting that the people with
> > > hair do not wear hats.
> > >
> > > On 09/07/2019 9:37 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> > > > Hair is GREATLY overrated! No need to hide or apologize for not
> having
> > > > much/any.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 9:19 PM tyee165 via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> They are hiding the fact that they are bald.
> > >
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>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

2019-07-10 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 12:54:32 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Maybe wearing a hat causes hair loss?

Correlation is not causation.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: OK Earthquakes

2019-07-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Are they all injection related?

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019, 1:00 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Nope, we seldom feel those that are at/near 3.0. It's the 4.0 and up that
> get our attention. I'm surprised that that one made the news - very common
> here, though like that article says, they are declining in number and
> intensity now.
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:50 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Hope the diesel listers were unshaken by these tremors.
> > Series of earthquakes shake central OklahomaPublished: Wednesday, July
> 10,
> > 2019
> >
> > No injuries or damage have been reported following several small
> > earthquakes in central Oklahoma.
> >
> > The U.S. Geological Survey says a magnitude 3.1 temblor was recorded at
> > 9:44 a.m. yesterday 7 miles west of Kingfisher, or about 35 miles west of
> > Oklahoma City. The earthquake was recorded at a depth of 4 miles. Two
> other
> > earthquakes, both magnitude 2.6, were recorded in the same area
> yesterday.
> >
> > Thousands of earthquakes in Oklahoma in recent years have been linked to
> > the underground injection of wastewater from oil and gas production. USGS
> > reports the number of magnitude 3.0 or greater earthquakes is on pace to
> > decline for the fourth straight year after state regulators began
> directing
> > producers to close some injection wells and reduce volumes in others. *—
> > Associated Press*
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>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Solar and Wind Power - another view

2019-07-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Follow the money...

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019, 1:01 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Whow! . can someone actually leave Green Peace and not be executed by
> the other members?
> Long leap from "save the planet" to "Nukes are Good".
> I wonder what the back story is on that "conversion".
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 5:55 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > One of the founders of Green Peace (who has left the organization) has
> come
> > around to promoting nuclear power, I think his new organization is called
> > Green Spirit.  That might be the guy.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 12:20 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > THERE IS A greeniw weenie out there who is promoting nukes.  He was on
> > > Beck this  morning.  I don't remember his name.   He is debunking the
> > > movie about the ruskies melt-down.   Interesting stuff.
> > >
> > > Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 7/9/19 12:44 PM:
> > > > Perfect.  That will leave nuclear, which has been the right choice
> for
> > > > decades, but for the fear-mongering and ignorance.
> > > > -
> > > > Max
> > > > Charleston SC
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

2019-07-10 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
No, hair loss causes wearing a hat. Mostly due to the cooking of the brain
in direct sun and skin cancers that have to be frozen off.

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:56 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Maybe wearing a hat causes hair loss?
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:20 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I have coffee with a group of old fellows pretty much daily. The fellows
> > wearing hats are all balding. There are a couple bald ones without hats
> > but none of the fellows with a full head of hair wear hats. Maybe just a
> > case of them protecting their bald heads when outdoors and carried over
> > into the McDonald's but still sort of interesting that the people with
> > hair do not wear hats.
> >
> > On 09/07/2019 9:37 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> > > Hair is GREATLY overrated! No need to hide or apologize for not having
> > > much/any.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 9:19 PM tyee165 via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> They are hiding the fact that they are bald.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Solar and Wind Power - another view

2019-07-10 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Whow! . can someone actually leave Green Peace and not be executed by
the other members?
Long leap from "save the planet" to "Nukes are Good".
I wonder what the back story is on that "conversion".

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 5:55 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> One of the founders of Green Peace (who has left the organization) has come
> around to promoting nuclear power, I think his new organization is called
> Green Spirit.  That might be the guy.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 12:20 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > THERE IS A greeniw weenie out there who is promoting nukes.  He was on
> > Beck this  morning.  I don't remember his name.   He is debunking the
> > movie about the ruskies melt-down.   Interesting stuff.
> >
> > Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 7/9/19 12:44 PM:
> > > Perfect.  That will leave nuclear, which has been the right choice for
> > > decades, but for the fear-mongering and ignorance.
> > > -
> > > Max
> > > Charleston SC
> > >
> > >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: OK Earthquakes

2019-07-10 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Nope, we seldom feel those that are at/near 3.0. It's the 4.0 and up that
get our attention. I'm surprised that that one made the news - very common
here, though like that article says, they are declining in number and
intensity now.

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:50 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Hope the diesel listers were unshaken by these tremors.
> Series of earthquakes shake central OklahomaPublished: Wednesday, July 10,
> 2019
>
> No injuries or damage have been reported following several small
> earthquakes in central Oklahoma.
>
> The U.S. Geological Survey says a magnitude 3.1 temblor was recorded at
> 9:44 a.m. yesterday 7 miles west of Kingfisher, or about 35 miles west of
> Oklahoma City. The earthquake was recorded at a depth of 4 miles. Two other
> earthquakes, both magnitude 2.6, were recorded in the same area yesterday.
>
> Thousands of earthquakes in Oklahoma in recent years have been linked to
> the underground injection of wastewater from oil and gas production. USGS
> reports the number of magnitude 3.0 or greater earthquakes is on pace to
> decline for the fourth straight year after state regulators began directing
> producers to close some injection wells and reduce volumes in others. *—
> Associated Press*
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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

2019-07-10 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Maybe wearing a hat causes hair loss?
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 11:20 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have coffee with a group of old fellows pretty much daily. The fellows
> wearing hats are all balding. There are a couple bald ones without hats
> but none of the fellows with a full head of hair wear hats. Maybe just a
> case of them protecting their bald heads when outdoors and carried over
> into the McDonald's but still sort of interesting that the people with
> hair do not wear hats.
>
> On 09/07/2019 9:37 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> > Hair is GREATLY overrated! No need to hide or apologize for not having
> > much/any.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 9:19 PM tyee165 via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> They are hiding the fact that they are bald.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Solar and Wind Power - another view

2019-07-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
WHat was?

On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 10:17 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> And it was apparently mostly BS propaganda.
>
> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 7/10/19 8:22 AM:
> > That Chernobyl show was scary, mostly because it was mostly all due to
> > bureaucracy with a small part due to the design.  There is a podcast
> > to go along with it, very interesting, a lot more detail.
> >
> > --FT
> >
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[MBZ] OT: OK Earthquakes

2019-07-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Hope the diesel listers were unshaken by these tremors.
Series of earthquakes shake central OklahomaPublished: Wednesday, July 10,
2019

No injuries or damage have been reported following several small
earthquakes in central Oklahoma.

The U.S. Geological Survey says a magnitude 3.1 temblor was recorded at
9:44 a.m. yesterday 7 miles west of Kingfisher, or about 35 miles west of
Oklahoma City. The earthquake was recorded at a depth of 4 miles. Two other
earthquakes, both magnitude 2.6, were recorded in the same area yesterday.

Thousands of earthquakes in Oklahoma in recent years have been linked to
the underground injection of wastewater from oil and gas production. USGS
reports the number of magnitude 3.0 or greater earthquakes is on pace to
decline for the fourth straight year after state regulators began directing
producers to close some injection wells and reduce volumes in others. *—
Associated Press*
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Re: [MBZ] OBDII reader

2019-07-10 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Wow, real time scanners are getting cheap these days.
https://www.amazon.com/FOXWELL-NT301-Professional-Enhanced-Diagnostic/dp/B00UJV3E12

And here's a horizontal tablet style like the big money Snap-Ons for a 
reasonable price with "lifetime updates" included.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NID51JQ

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Re: [MBZ] OBDII reader

2019-07-10 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Anyone have experience with the "Pro" scanners from Harbor Fright?

https://www.harborfreight.com/zr-pro-professional-automotive-scanner-64576.html

or the lesser models such as

https://www.harborfreight.com/zr13-obd2-code-reader-with-abssrsfixassist-63806.html



Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:

> I borrow a Soleus Ultra from a friendly indy when the need arises. 
> Looks like used ones go for around $1000 on eBay.
>  
>> On July 10, 2019 at 10:31 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> What pro scanner do you have?

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Re: [MBZ] OBDII reader

2019-07-10 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I borrow a Soleus Ultra from a friendly indy when the need arises. 
Looks like used ones go for around $1000 on eBay.
 
> On July 10, 2019 at 10:31 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> What pro scanner do you have?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

2019-07-10 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

The handsome gents among us need a bit of extra assistance

--FT

On 7/10/19 11:19 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
I have coffee with a group of old fellows pretty much daily. The 
fellows wearing hats are all balding. There are a couple bald ones 
without hats but none of the fellows with a full head of hair wear 
hats. Maybe just a case of them protecting their bald heads when 
outdoors and carried over into the McDonald's but still sort of 
interesting that the people with hair do not wear hats.


On 09/07/2019 9:37 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Hair is GREATLY overrated! No need to hide or apologize for not having
much/any.

On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 9:19 PM tyee165 via Mercedes 


wrote:


They are hiding the fact that they are bald.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: HOAs and patina

2019-07-10 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I have coffee with a group of old fellows pretty much daily. The fellows 
wearing hats are all balding. There are a couple bald ones without hats 
but none of the fellows with a full head of hair wear hats. Maybe just a 
case of them protecting their bald heads when outdoors and carried over 
into the McDonald's but still sort of interesting that the people with 
hair do not wear hats.


On 09/07/2019 9:37 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Hair is GREATLY overrated! No need to hide or apologize for not having
much/any.

On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 9:19 PM tyee165 via Mercedes 
wrote:


They are hiding the fact that they are bald.



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Re: [MBZ] OBDII reader

2019-07-10 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Mitch says:

>Having used a pro scanner and a code reader, I can say a pro scanner is worth 
>having.

What pro scanner do you have?

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] OT Solar and Wind Power - another view

2019-07-10 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

And it was apparently mostly BS propaganda.

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 7/10/19 8:22 AM:
That Chernobyl show was scary, mostly because it was mostly all due to 
bureaucracy with a small part due to the design.  There is a podcast 
to go along with it, very interesting, a lot more detail.


--FT




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Re: [MBZ] OBDII reader

2019-07-10 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


The $10 ones work as code scanners. 
I've got one of those but never took it out of the package. 

OBDLink MX and LX can do more. That hardware supports bidirectional 
communications, up to and including flashing the software in the ECU. 
I'm not sure what you can see with the software that comes with them. 

Having used a pro scanner and a code reader, I can say a pro scanner is worth 
having. 
There'a a big difference between knowing code P0449 was set and knowing that it 
was first set 658 miles ago, last occurred 658 miles ago, occurred 4 seconds 
after the engine was started at 1247rpm with a lot of throttle and fuel tank 
pressure at 0.0 (I'm wondering if I need a new gas cap, even though the code 
doesn't point at a gas cap), and the car has gone through 44 warmup cycles 
since it happened.

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[MBZ] Wonder what codes it's throwing

2019-07-10 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/418589352091948/

But it misses 3rd gear and needs a transmission.

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[MBZ] uhoh

2019-07-10 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/205243573745395/

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Re: [MBZ] OT Solar and Wind Power - another view

2019-07-10 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
That Chernobyl show was scary, mostly because it was mostly all due to 
bureaucracy with a small part due to the design.  There is a podcast to 
go along with it, very interesting, a lot more detail.


--FT

On 7/10/19 12:19 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
THERE IS A greeniw weenie out there who is promoting nukes.  He was on 
Beck this  morning.  I don't remember his name.   He is debunking the 
movie about the ruskies melt-down.   Interesting stuff.


Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 7/9/19 12:44 PM:

Perfect.  That will leave nuclear, which has been the right choice for
decades, but for the fear-mongering and ignorance.
-
Max
Charleston SC





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Re: [MBZ] OBDII reader

2019-07-10 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I bought some cheap bluetooth (or maybe wifi, doesn't matter really, it 
talks to my phone) dongle off Amazon I think when they were on sale, was 
maybe $6.  banggood have them for like $4.  I use a free app called 
inCarDoc on the ifone, pulls up some interesting stuff, seems to work 
well.  They have a paid version too, not much as I recall, that will 
show a lot more stuff, but the basic will list the codes.  I've used it 
on the Benzes and my chebby trucks.  There are some other similar apps, 
I saw this one recommended on the BW forum I think.


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On 7/10/19 9:06 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
I finally came up with a spyfone (android) for cheap.  What is the 
current thought for where to buy the OBDII dongle and what is the best 
software or the best value software?   At present, this will not be 
for MB, as the newest one is 1987.


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[MBZ] OBDII reader

2019-07-10 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I finally came up with a spyfone (android) for cheap.  What is the 
current thought for where to buy the OBDII dongle and what is the best 
software or the best value software?   At present, this will not be for 
MB, as the newest one is 1987.


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Re: [MBZ] OT FB Marketplace

2019-07-10 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

Steve Wozniak is telling everyone to get off fakebuch.

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 7/10/19 4:17 AM:

The Marketplace things around me are like a 24/7 garage sale of crap. I 
subscribe to one of them that’s for a high end neighborhood not far from me, as 
the rich people often sell or give stuff away for almost nothing. I got a HUGE 
smoker with a nice cover that was like new for $100 last year. This past 
weekend I scored a set of two brand new Samsonite hard sided spinny suitcases 
for $65. One of them would have cost over $100 new.

As a buyer, if you can sift through all the garbage and you’re persistent you 
can find some deals. I’ve noticed that prices for things like cars are usually 
stupid (high) prices or the things are junk.

-D





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Re: [MBZ] OT Solar and Wind Power - another view

2019-07-10 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
One of the founders of Green Peace (who has left the organization) has come
around to promoting nuclear power, I think his new organization is called
Green Spirit.  That might be the guy.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 12:20 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> THERE IS A greeniw weenie out there who is promoting nukes.  He was on
> Beck this  morning.  I don't remember his name.   He is debunking the
> movie about the ruskies melt-down.   Interesting stuff.
>
> Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 7/9/19 12:44 PM:
> > Perfect.  That will leave nuclear, which has been the right choice for
> > decades, but for the fear-mongering and ignorance.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT FB Marketplace

2019-07-10 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The Marketplace things around me are like a 24/7 garage sale of crap. I 
subscribe to one of them that’s for a high end neighborhood not far from me, as 
the rich people often sell or give stuff away for almost nothing. I got a HUGE 
smoker with a nice cover that was like new for $100 last year. This past 
weekend I scored a set of two brand new Samsonite hard sided spinny suitcases 
for $65. One of them would have cost over $100 new.

As a buyer, if you can sift through all the garbage and you’re persistent you 
can find some deals. I’ve noticed that prices for things like cars are usually 
stupid (high) prices or the things are junk.

-D

> On Jul 9, 2019, at 10:47 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Anybody have any success selling stuff on FB? I have a few things listed, and 
> I am getting some absolutely ridiculously low offers. It's like, I'll take 
> this stuff to Goodwill, or throw it away, before I'll even respond to you 
> 
> Rick
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