Depends on build date. Later build ’74 would get the cats. Early one, like
mine is cat free.
clay
> On Oct 3, 2019, at 8:30 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Aren't the '74-'75's years to avoid because of the under hood cats?
>
>
> Rick
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Almost as good as mine. This one has MBtex, to my leather, bundts instead of
my hubcaps, and only half the pistons
clay
1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1982 SD - Allen
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks
Aren't the '74-'75's years to avoid because of the under hood cats?
Rick
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On October 3, 2019 11:37:51 PM EDT, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
wrote:
>Here’s that W115 300D ad on my local Craigslist for 1800. It seems
>rather neglected per the description, but it still runs and drives for
>under $2K.
>Kevin in
Here’s that W115 300D ad on my local Craigslist for 1800. It seems rather
neglected per the description, but it still runs and drives for under $2K.
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard
My Uncle Al’s W115 1976 300D was the car that gave me the Dieselitis bug that
will be with me until my dying day. They are getting very hard to find in any
condition, especially those that are drivable. There is one up in WA on
Craigslist. I’ll post a link to the ad if I can find it.
Kevin in
On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 22:53:57 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes
wrote:
> Buy it cheap. Not too many other buyers want gruen.
I do not consider $10,500 cheap ...
Craig
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Knock the price down to seven K, get it detailed, and flip it for $12,000.
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019, 10:54 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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> Buy it cheap. Not too many other buyers want gruen.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Thu, Oct 3, 2019, 10:47 PM Kaleb
Have a captain's chair, will drive anywhere.
I wonder what the story is. The exterior color is so unusual - such a waste.
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019, 8:50 PM M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
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> Worth a couple hundred for the manual A/C controls.
>
> On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at
Buy it cheap. Not too many other buyers want gruen.
Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019, 10:47 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> 1974 Mercedes-Benz 450SL Convertible/Hard Top - Excellent Condition
>
>
>
1974 Mercedes-Benz 450SL Convertible/Hard Top - Excellent Condition
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Worth a couple hundred for the manual A/C controls.
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That's exactly the car that I was thinking is right for Snook - mine was
green with a tqan interior - hated the color, but loved driving it until
rust and a drunk driver took it.
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 4:17 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> Then you need one like
On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 21:19:31 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
wrote:
> Do you know how much hydrogen has to be pressurized to be a reasonable
> motor fuel? You'd be driving around with a bomb...
There are better methods for storing hydrogen as automobile fuel. Metal
hydrides are one.
.
Hydrogen energy pros and cons.
https://vittana.org/18-biggest-hydrogen-energy-pros-and-cons
..
On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 15:02:55 -0400
Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> Not exactly, but getting there. Hydrogen is
Well, Mercedes is my proxy for hydrogen. They are gung-ho in developing the
technology for hydrogen powered cars.
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019, 5:36 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> He main fact is that hydrogen is an energy storage medium, not an energy
> source. The
He main fact is that hydrogen is an energy storage medium, not an energy
source. The discussion needs to focus on energy sources with storage as a
secondary issue.
> -Original Message-
> From: Raymond via Mercedes
>
> How much land do you need to cover with solar panels to make a
On 03/10/2019 4:25 PM, Don Snook via Mercedes wrote:
Randy has some cars to sell?
Don Snook
Not really. I only have the one car and sometimes I think I should sell
it because I don't use it much and it is taking up half of my garage.
But then, I drive it, and I come away thinking how great
LOL, I need a garage before I once again venture into the realm of vintage
Mercedes. I don't want to run another one into the ground.
I've got a plan to add a carport onto my existing garage which needs a roof
anyway. Maybe next year...
-Curt
On Thursday, October 3, 2019, 5:30:27 PM EDT,
WOW! I just a memory come flooding back. My mother had a 1981 Chevy Chevette.
It was a total piece of crap. She traded it in on an 82 Oldsmobile Omega.
This would have been about 1984 or 85. The dealership had this beautiful
108/109 that was dark green. I was about 11 years old and I
On 03/10/2019 4:23 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
You need Randy to sell you his 300D.
Actually I need to build a bigger garage and get him to sell me his 115...
-Curt
I need you two to get into a bidding war.
Randy
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From: Curt Raymond
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 4:23 PM
To: Andrew Strasfogel ; Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Don Snook
Subject: Re: [MBZ] [EXTERNAL] Re: 123 Diesel Plan of attack
You need Randy to sell you his 300D.
Actually I need to build a
You need Randy to sell you his 300D.
Actually I need to build a bigger garage and get him to sell me his 115...
-Curt
On Thursday, October 3, 2019, 5:14:41 PM EDT, Don Snook via Mercedes
wrote:
That’s true. But, finding one for $5000 in actual decent condition might be
almost
If it starts reasonably well you can probably ignore the glow plugs for the
moment.
Setting the valves is a really easy zen kind of project that you should
probably do. If for no other reason than once its done you'll know its done.
The engine will probably be quieter and you'll get the
How much land do you need to cover with solar panels to make a reasonably
useful amount of hydrogen?When you turn solar power into hydrogen you throw
away a whole bunch to inefficiency. Much better to use that solar power to
power houses.Shoot electric cars with lithium batteries make more
On 03/10/2019 4:13 PM, Don Snook via Mercedes wrote:
That’s true. But, finding one for $5000 in actual decent condition might be
almost impossible. I do wonder if I am going for that era, if I should just
get a 114/115. They are not as elegant or collectible as the 108/109 but I
have a
And a further failure mode is an ALDA that is broken / leaks off the boost so
fast that it does little good or no good at all. On the early 124 cars, the
ALDA can be taken apart and resealed with fresh O-rings, perhaps your 123 car
is the same.
A methodical approach, small steps, will
That’s true. But, finding one for $5000 in actual decent condition might be
almost impossible. I do wonder if I am going for that era, if I should just
get a 114/115. They are not as elegant or collectible as the 108/109 but I
have a special fondness for them because my first MB was a 1971
The pollution would be generated in producing the acres and acres of solar
panels that would be needed to produce enough useful electricity to produce
enough hydrogen so that one could drive 300 or more miles per week.
And then there is the business case which would probably show the cost per
My advice is to connect the hydraulic lines ( hand tight) while the
mounting screws are very lose. Also, expect to get some oil on you.
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019, 13:55 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> I tried to order Wurth alloy wheel paint but was rebuffed by the
On 03/10/2019 3:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
W108 OR 109 sedans are roomy enough and supremely classic in design, yet
timeless
AND expensive and hard to come by these days but I do think Pierre had
good things to say about them.
Randy
On the driver's side firewall there is a switchover valve inline in the
tube that goes from the manifold to the ALDA. Make sure the rubber bits
that connect the hard lines to the switchover valve are airtight.
Otherwise the ALDA will not see the boost pressure and will not inject
enough fuel.
On
Ahh. Ok. Well, that is one of the parts under the hood that is all shiny and
new. I know the general advice is ignore what the previous owner said. But, I
am not sure at this point there is any reason he will lie to me. I have
already bought the car. He said he replaced the glow plugs
W108 OR 109 sedans are roomy enough and supremely classic in design, yet
timeless
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 4:25 PM Don Snook via Mercedes
wrote:
> OK Don wrote:
>
> "Now remember, your initial criteria was for a classic looking MB - the
> W124 does not fit that. The W123 and W126 are marginal
Turbo 617 engines all had EGR. I know this will cause a ruckus, but Kent gives
an OK overview of the EGR valve and how to test it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud60NZuma-A=322s
D.
At 8:25 PM + 10/3/19, Don Snook wrote:
>I don't think this has an EGR. Its an 82.
>
>Don Snook
>
One of the first local Mercedes I looked at here in Chucktown was a brown
version of this, in really sad shape. It was totally clapped out, but had a
manual transmission. I probably could have worked on the seller to get a low
price, but I was too scared of taking on that project as my first
If you used solar power to electrolyze water where's the pollution?
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 3:33 PM OK Don via Mercedes
wrote:
> Well said, Curt ... The bottom line - TANSTAAFL.
>
> On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 2:29 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Hydrogen
It does
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> On Oct 3, 2019, at 3:25 PM, Don Snook via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> I don't think this has an EGR. Its an 82.
>
> Don Snook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Bruckmann On Behalf Of David Bruckmann
> Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 3:23 PM
> To:
I don't think this has an EGR. Its an 82.
Don Snook
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From: David Bruckmann On Behalf Of David Bruckmann
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 3:23 PM
To: Mercedes List
Cc: Don Snook
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [MBZ] 123 Diesel Plan of attack
You were in the right
OK Don wrote:
"Now remember, your initial criteria was for a classic looking MB - the W124
does not fit that. The W123 and W126 are marginal in my book as well, but much
better (classic looks wise) than anything that followed them."
That is a very good point and I do want to stick with 123
You were in the right neighbourhood! Just clean out that banjo bolt (you should
be able to blow through it) and you're good to go. I think there's a washer or
two that are at risk of disappearing, so watch out for that. A ball bearing in
the vacuum line that goes to the EGR valve will prevent
Thanks. I think it is definitely worth what I paid. If the question is
whether I would have paid $3,000 for one that had working a/c and great paint
and was cleaner with working odometer and gauges, then I would have opted for
the better one.
If I can’t find a shop here in Memphis that works
Well maybe I am misunderstanding.
Imagine standing in front of the car. On the left side is the air cleaner.
Near the back of the valve cover is a clear (ish) line that goes onto a nipple.
That line stretches over to the firewall on the other side and it goes to a
place where a bunch of
On 03/10/2019 2:35 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
Now remember, your initial criteria was for a classic looking MB - the W124
does not fit that. The W123 and W126 are marginal in my book as well, but
much better (classic looks wise) than anything that followed them.
Yeah! Dump that 123 for a
The boost line often plugs up at the fitting on the back of the intake
manifold. There's a banjo bolt there which you should remove, clean, etc. If it
plugs there, the rest of the line will look relatively clean (because it is!).
You definitely need to disconnect it to clean it.
D.
On Wed,
Now remember, your initial criteria was for a classic looking MB - the W124
does not fit that. The W123 and W126 are marginal in my book as well, but
much better (classic looks wise) than anything that followed them.
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 2:29 PM Don Snook via Mercedes
wrote:
> You have never
It sounds to be like you've gotten a very good deal for $1000. I can hardly
buy a car that runs and drives for $2,000 anymore. $1500 cars used to be my
stock in trade but these days those cars are just junk.
If its reasonably rust free your car is worth $2,000 here easy. The problems
you've
Well said, Curt ... The bottom line - TANSTAAFL.
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 2:29 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Hydrogen "energy" is hugely polluting. Most of the industrial hydrogen is
> extracted from oil. Sure you could extract it from water but the energy
>
The US headlights would have been required to import back in the day. It
has those aftermarket wheels where the chrome peels off around the rim,
leaking air on a regular basis. My SLC had those when I bought it - not
cool. Of course, it shouldn't be too hard to find the proper bundts for it.
It
You have never had the tach or oil pressure gauge quit? Or any problems with
the a/c? My old 123 diesel with over 450K had the ignition deal where I had
to turn it back just a tad to get the a/c to work. The tach on it also was
funky. I have heard of tons of 123 where the odometer quits
Hydrogen "energy" is hugely polluting. Most of the industrial hydrogen is
extracted from oil. Sure you could extract it from water but the energy
required for that is big.At best hydrogen is an inefficient battery.
Actually at best its a scam to extract money from rubes...
-Curt
On
G Mann I cannot even begin to estimate the number times you have offended
me. If there were a rewards program for offensiveness you would be in
Hawaii right now.
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 2:52 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> There are only so many hours in a day.
>
It also has US headlights.
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 2:36 PM Donald Snook via Mercedes <
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> I’ve been to St. Simon’s its beautiful.
>
> If this euro, shouldn’t it have the itchy velour seats rather than
> leather? A 126 stick shift would be cool! So, this would be the
Not exactly, but getting there. Hydrogen is probably closer.
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 2:25 PM G Mann via Mercedes
wrote:
> But, but, but, it's free energy and doesn't pollute .
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 10:57 AM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Hybrid vehicle
Rape you literally - how??
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:20 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> They also do it with the lowest attendance in the league, too, in one of
> the crappiest venues as well.
>
> Owners tried to rape us recently when they wanted Tampa to build them
Good work, Don, although to be honest in all my years of owning 300 diesels
I haven't encountered any of the issues you report. I think you may have
picked up a car that has been at best neglected or - worse - butchered.
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 2:39 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
There are only so many hours in a day.
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On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:57 PM, G Mann via Mercedes
wrote: My apology to any one I have not offended, I'll get to you soon. ;))
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 10:54 AM Dan--- via Mercedes
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> Uh, the subject was
Actually the ones on my CD work. I need a Marlboro butt to fix my tach amp,
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 12:03 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> The plastic gears are also wicked easy to fix. A little dab of super glue
> on the shaft for
I’ve been to St. Simon’s its beautiful.
If this euro, shouldn’t it have the itchy velour seats rather than leather? A
126 stick shift would be cool! So, this would be the m110 engine? So, either 2
carbs or the fuel injection? My old 82 euro 280 got pretty lousy gas mileage.
Donald H.
But, but, but, it's free energy and doesn't pollute .
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 10:57 AM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Hybrid vehicle owners sound off on increased car tab renewal fee
> http://via.q13fox.com/PSlmY
>
> Maybe a non issue for this group, as we do not have
My apology to any one I have not offended, I'll get to you soon. ;))
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 10:54 AM Dan--- via Mercedes
wrote:
> Uh, the subject was “Automotive carpet cleaners”, not “Automatic”.
>
> ?
>
> -D
>
> > On Oct 3, 2019, at 1:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>
Hybrid vehicle owners sound off on increased car tab renewal fee
http://via.q13fox.com/PSlmY
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On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 10:05 AM Craig via Mercedes
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> On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 13:14:54 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> > Which makes me wonder how they got them...
> > -Curt
>
> I was wondering
Uh, the subject was “Automotive carpet cleaners”, not “Automatic”.
?
-D
> On Oct 3, 2019, at 1:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Anyone on this list who whines about automatic carpet cleaners is a
> p**pyhead.
>
> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 5:37 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
First oil change at 92,000?
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 10:46 AM Craig via Mercedes
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> On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 13:40:11 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> >
> https://savannah.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-simons-island-1984-mercedes-benz/6991823275.html
>
> So why was the engine rebuilt
That’s how I was describing the difference between the M119 and M120 to the
eldest boy the other day. I was telling him about that really nice S600 that’s
for sale nearby, and he was wondering why it would be any better than an S500
as far as performance.
We were on the interstate at the time,
On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 13:40:11 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
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> https://savannah.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-simons-island-1984-mercedes-benz/6991823275.html
So why was the engine rebuilt at 92,000 miles?
Craig
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I drove the SL600 the other evening. It was a bit cooler and it was
running pretty well. Even at like 3/4 throttle it just builds power
like a turbine and it feels *really" good, then when it hits 4000rpm it
is like a supercharger kicks in and speed just builds and builds... I
left my
They also do it with the lowest attendance in the league, too, in one of the
crappiest venues as well.
Owners tried to rape us recently when they wanted Tampa to build them an $800M
stadium. They said they would pay for $200M of it.
We told them to stuff it.
-D
> On Oct 3, 2019, at 1:05 PM,
Rather than looking at various Austrian all-terrain vehicles, consider
the answers to BAT's Question of the Week: How Much Power Is Too Much
Power?
Scroll the long way down to the bottom of the page and read the multitude
of responses.
Some of the good ones are:
Oct 2 at 12:18 PM
buickboy63
Aux. water pump?
On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 8:59 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Good question.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Oct 2, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hmm. If the auxiliary pump was bad and took out the control
He Dan, do you follow the TB Rays? They are a scary good MLB team and they
achieve this with the lowest team payroll! They do for the game at a cost
comparable to what you do to neglected MB classics.
On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 8:02 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
Anyone on this list who whines about automatic carpet cleaners is a
p**pyhead.
On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 5:37 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> No! Not at all! I find the whiners to be very offensive.
>
> Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote on 10/1/19 8:24 PM:
> > I
The plastic gears are also wicked easy to fix. A little dab of super glue on
the shaft for the tenths wheel has restored 2 of them for me.
IIRC I've promised to fix Dwight's, probably promised more than once, I ought
to actually do that.
-Curt
On Thursday, October 3, 2019, 10:52:43 AM EDT,
Looks like a good plan, though I think I'd swap 6 and 7 - the vacuum system
also controls parts of the ACC system - it will be easier to determine what
fixes what if the vents flaps are working.
Regarding #11 - a different cluster doesn't mean that it's odometer is
working either - the plastic
On 03/10/2019 8:25 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
6x6 version last week.
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On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 13:14:54 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
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> Which makes me wonder how they got them...
> -Curt
I was wondering the same thing ...
Craig
> On Thursday, October 3, 2019, 9:11:18 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via
> Mercedes wrote:
> Yeah, I recall that someone in
Compressed gas cylinders can be shipped, but they're ORM-D material so you
can't ship them on airplanes. No hazmat fees, just need to label the box on 3
sides "ORM-D compressed gas", same as a can of pepper spray, refrigerant or a
box of CO2 cartridges.
Loaded small arms ammunition is ORM-D
6x6 version last week.
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Which makes me wonder how they got them...
-Curt
On Thursday, October 3, 2019, 9:11:18 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
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Yeah, I recall that someone in Kalifornia or someplace like that had a vendor
refuse to ship them, said they were classified as hazardous material.
Silly.
Think it'll sell?
Oh, no reserve, it'll sell thus time.
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Yeah, I recall that someone in Kalifornia or someplace like that had a vendor
refuse to ship them, said they were classified as hazardous material.
Silly.
-D
> On Oct 3, 2019, at 9:02 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> When I bought the rear accumulators for the 129 (which are
When I bought the rear accumulators for the 129 (which are still in the
boxes...sigh) some vendors said they wouldn't ship them. Not sure how
they could sell them. I think I got them from FCP maybe, or one of the
other euro parts suppliers and they showed up on the front porch at some
point.
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