Re: [MBZ] 123 wanted

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I am not looking for perfect, but something in somewhat decent cosmetic 
shape.  What do you have, what are you looking for to trade?  Never know 
what I might have laying around okie acres.




On 4/28/2020 9:12 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

I might. How nice of an example are you looking for?

Anything interesting to offer in exchange?

Allan

Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:


Who has a 123 D or CD turbo they want to sell?



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Re: [MBZ] 123 wanted

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I might. How nice of an example are you looking for?

Anything interesting to offer in exchange?

Allan

Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:

> Who has a 123 D or CD turbo they want to sell?
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] 123 wanted

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

I will likely liquidate the wagon sometime. Just fiddling the interior bits.

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Re: [MBZ] A new meaning of exhaust sticking out of the hood

[G Mann via Mercedes]

That is a special feature so the valet parking can find your car easier at
the posh restaurant you drove to in your classic mercedes, dressed to the
nines ... with your date...
Right

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Re: [MBZ] Cafe au lait oil?

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Yes, if you have a blown head gasket, you will see bubbles... as engine
warms up, gasket leak will leak more, which will induce compression gasses
into the cooling system...
Depending on how bad the gasket or corrosion pinhole problem is, you will
see bubbles.. or if it's worse, at high idle or middle speed, the intruding
gas will "burp" the coolant out of the overflow tank.
If you have a car with a radiator cap, at the top radiator tank, remove the
cap and watch what happens to coolant as you run the engine.. speed up
engine... coolant surge, with gas intrusion... sure sign you have
combustion gas inserting into coolant system.

Tear down will tell you where, unless your exray vision glasses are
handy... ;))

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 5:49 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
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> Right but I don’t have a radiator neck, I have a coolant expansion tank
> with the hose entering the tank up high. How will I see bubbles or coolant
> surge in this situation?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 28, 2020, at 8:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The bubble part is what I was saying earlier….
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Apr 28, 2020, at 7:48 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> CHANGE THE OIL IMMEDIATELY< AND FILTER.
> >> Oil with water is the kiss of death to bearing surface... DO NOT run
> engine
> >> till it has clean oil.
> >>
> >> Then, run engine and watch for bubbles in radiator tank.. if head
> gasket is
> >> leaking, engine compression overpowers coolant pressure and compression
> gas
> >> will bubble up...
> >> If gasket is really leaking, the coolant will surge up the filler neck
> each
> >> time you rev up the engine...
> >> If it's a little seep leak, you will get bubbles...
> >> If you have bubbles or surge... head gasket replacement...
> >>
> >>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:01 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Yes zerex GO5 replaced in 2012, car driven only a few thousand miles
> >>> since. Been sitting in unheated garage for 3.5 years without getting
> >>> started. Oil was changed 4.5 years ago.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  Could just be condensation -- I'd change the oil and filter pronto,
> no
> >>> more idling!
> 
>  Sadly, it's more likely a head gasket if you have coolant loss.
> 
>  You did keep proper anti-corrosive coolant in there, not green stuff,
> >>> right?
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[MBZ] A new meaning of exhaust sticking out of the hood

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

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Re: [MBZ] A Kleb Car If I Ever Saw One!!!

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Holy cow that has to the the worst w210 seat I seen. It’s seen a lot of ass.

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> On Apr 28, 2020, at 8:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> Ad says it all:
> 
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/riverview-1999-mercedes-benz-430/7115596749.html
>  
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> 
> This thing is begging to be in the back 40 of Okie Acres.
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Re: [MBZ] Finny

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Maybe 

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> On Apr 28, 2020, at 7:53 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
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> Didn’t someone post this earlier today? Rick?
> 
> I recall the tape around the left headlight.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 8:51 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 1968 Mercedes Benz 230 Fintail - RUNS and DRIVES W110
>> 
>> https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/d/dallas-1968-mercedes-benz-230-fintail/7115123123.html
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[MBZ] A Kleb Car If I Ever Saw One!!!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Ad says it all:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/riverview-1999-mercedes-benz-430/7115596749.html
 


This thing is begging to be in the back 40 of Okie Acres.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Finny

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Yeah. It was on FB. 

Rick



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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Finny


Didn’t someone post this earlier today? Rick?

I recall the tape around the left headlight.


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Re: [MBZ] Finny

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Didn’t someone post this earlier today? Rick?

I recall the tape around the left headlight.

-D

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 8:51 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> 1968 Mercedes Benz 230 Fintail - RUNS and DRIVES W110
> 
> https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/d/dallas-1968-mercedes-benz-230-fintail/7115123123.html
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[MBZ] Finny

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

1968 Mercedes Benz 230 Fintail - RUNS and DRIVES W110

https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/d/dallas-1968-mercedes-benz-230-fintail/7115123123.html


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Re: [MBZ] Cafe au lait oil?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Right but I don’t have a radiator neck, I have a coolant expansion tank with 
the hose entering the tank up high. How will I see bubbles or coolant surge in 
this situation?

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> On Apr 28, 2020, at 8:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The bubble part is what I was saying earlier….
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 7:48 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> CHANGE THE OIL IMMEDIATELY< AND FILTER.
>> Oil with water is the kiss of death to bearing surface... DO NOT run engine
>> till it has clean oil.
>> 
>> Then, run engine and watch for bubbles in radiator tank.. if head gasket is
>> leaking, engine compression overpowers coolant pressure and compression gas
>> will bubble up...
>> If gasket is really leaking, the coolant will surge up the filler neck each
>> time you rev up the engine...
>> If it's a little seep leak, you will get bubbles...
>> If you have bubbles or surge... head gasket replacement...
>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:01 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes zerex GO5 replaced in 2012, car driven only a few thousand miles
>>> since. Been sitting in unheated garage for 3.5 years without getting
>>> started. Oil was changed 4.5 years ago.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Could just be condensation -- I'd change the oil and filter pronto, no
>>> more idling!
 
 Sadly, it's more likely a head gasket if you have coolant loss.
 
 You did keep proper anti-corrosive coolant in there, not green stuff,
>>> right?
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Re: [MBZ] Cafe au lait oil?

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If you want an engine to last, be sure to get the oil up to operating
temperature every time the engine is started, and keep it there for 20 to
30 minutes. This evaporates the moisture in the oil that forms as a result
of the combustion process every time the engine is started.

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 7:01 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
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> Ok I will change oil and filter tomorrow. Any utility in doing a
> compression test?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Apr 28, 2020, at 7:49 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > CHANGE THE OIL IMMEDIATELY< AND FILTER.
> > Oil with water is the kiss of death to bearing surface... DO NOT run
> engine
> > till it has clean oil.
> >
> > Then, run engine and watch for bubbles in radiator tank.. if head gasket
> is
> > leaking, engine compression overpowers coolant pressure and compression
> gas
> > will bubble up...
> > If gasket is really leaking, the coolant will surge up the filler neck
> each
> > time you rev up the engine...
> > If it's a little seep leak, you will get bubbles...
> > If you have bubbles or surge... head gasket replacement...
> >
> >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:01 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes zerex GO5 replaced in 2012, car driven only a few thousand miles
> >> since. Been sitting in unheated garage for 3.5 years without getting
> >> started. Oil was changed 4.5 years ago.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Could just be condensation -- I'd change the oil and filter pronto, no
> >> more idling!
> >>>
> >>> Sadly, it's more likely a head gasket if you have coolant loss.
> >>>
> >>> You did keep proper anti-corrosive coolant in there, not green stuff,
> >> right?
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Re: [MBZ] Cafe au lait oil?

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The bubble part is what I was saying earlier….

-D

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 7:48 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> CHANGE THE OIL IMMEDIATELY< AND FILTER.
> Oil with water is the kiss of death to bearing surface... DO NOT run engine
> till it has clean oil.
> 
> Then, run engine and watch for bubbles in radiator tank.. if head gasket is
> leaking, engine compression overpowers coolant pressure and compression gas
> will bubble up...
> If gasket is really leaking, the coolant will surge up the filler neck each
> time you rev up the engine...
> If it's a little seep leak, you will get bubbles...
> If you have bubbles or surge... head gasket replacement...
> 
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:01 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Yes zerex GO5 replaced in 2012, car driven only a few thousand miles
>> since. Been sitting in unheated garage for 3.5 years without getting
>> started. Oil was changed 4.5 years ago.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Could just be condensation -- I'd change the oil and filter pronto, no
>> more idling!
>>> 
>>> Sadly, it's more likely a head gasket if you have coolant loss.
>>> 
>>> You did keep proper anti-corrosive coolant in there, not green stuff,
>> right?
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I pretty much ran thru all the things it might need after sitting that long to 
get it running. Will need a full service for sure. 

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> On Apr 28, 2020, at 7:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It’s easy to make a case on a non-operable car. Just start going down the 
> list of all the things you *can’t* check out and it gets ugly real quick. If 
> the person is unwilling to accept this, make your best offer, walk away, and 
> know that there will be others.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 8:19 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes good point. Not running would be,worth what a buyer would pay & assume 
>> risk.
>> 
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:39 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > > wrote:
>> Not to rant, but if yours was worth $4200 at the time and it was running, 
>> what would a comparably appointed car of the same mileage and vintage be 
>> worth if it’s not running?
>> 
>> (I’m not ranting at you, just using your car as an example to make a point.)
>> 
>> The logic escapes me when people come up with this dreck.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes mine ran well when i bought it for 4200.
>>> 
>>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a
 drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it
 leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.
 
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> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> 
> Maybe I should up my offer to $3k
> 
> On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>> Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during
 a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so
 body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
>> I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i
 would have several.
>> 
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com  
 >> wrote:
>> 
>>  There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
>>  about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
>>  the past
>>  looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
>>  interested in
>>  selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
>>  about
>>  5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
>>  All the
>>  tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
>>  Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
>>  spots on
>>  the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
>>  leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
>>  Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
>>  chrome is
>>  peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
>>  Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
>>  compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
>>  time
>>  seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
>>  to see
>>  that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
>>  probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
>>  going to
>>  sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
>>  him want
>>  he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
>>  threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
>>  take
>>  it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
>>  thru
>>  $12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
>>  listed for
>>  that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
>>  deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
>>  has
>>  me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It’s easy to make a case on a non-operable car. Just start going down the list 
of all the things you *can’t* check out and it gets ugly real quick. If the 
person is unwilling to accept this, make your best offer, walk away, and know 
that there will be others.

-D

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 8:19 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> Yes good point. Not running would be,worth what a buyer would pay & assume 
> risk.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:39 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  > wrote:
> Not to rant, but if yours was worth $4200 at the time and it was running, 
> what would a comparably appointed car of the same mileage and vintage be 
> worth if it’s not running?
> 
> (I’m not ranting at you, just using your car as an example to make a point.)
> 
> The logic escapes me when people come up with this dreck.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > Yes mine ran well when i bought it for 4200.
> > 
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> > 
> > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a
> >> drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it
> >> leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.
> >> 
> >> -D
> >> 
> >>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Maybe I should up my offer to $3k
> >>> 
> >>> On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>  Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during
> >> a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so
> >> body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
>  I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i
> >> would have several.
>  
>  Dwight Giles Jr.
>  Wickford RI
>  
>  On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com  
> >> >> wrote:
>  
>    There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
>    about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
>    the past
>    looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
>    interested in
>    selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
>    about
>    5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
>    All the
>    tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
>    Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
>    spots on
>    the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
>    leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
>    Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
>    chrome is
>    peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
>    Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
>    compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
>    time
>    seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
>    to see
>    that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
>    probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
>    going to
>    sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
>    him want
>    he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
>    threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
>    take
>    it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
>    thru
>    $12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
>    listed for
>    that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
>    deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
>    has
>    me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.
>  
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes good point. Not running would be,worth what a buyer would pay & assume
risk.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:39 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Not to rant, but if yours was worth $4200 at the time and it was running,
> what would a comparably appointed car of the same mileage and vintage be
> worth if it’s not running?
>
> (I’m not ranting at you, just using your car as an example to make a
> point.)
>
> The logic escapes me when people come up with this dreck.
>
> -D
>
> > On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yes mine ran well when i bought it for 4200.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it
> for a
> >> drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the
> mechanicals it
> >> leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Maybe I should up my offer to $3k
> >>>
> >>> On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>  Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during
> >> a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so
> >> body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
>  I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i
> >> would have several.
> 
>  Dwight Giles Jr.
>  Wickford RI
> 
>  On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> 
>    There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
>    about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
>    the past
>    looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
>    interested in
>    selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
>    about
>    5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
>    All the
>    tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
>    Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
>    spots on
>    the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
>    leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
>    Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
>    chrome is
>    peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
>    Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
>    compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
>    time
>    seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
>    to see
>    that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
>    probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
>    going to
>    sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
>    him want
>    he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
>    threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
>    take
>    it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
>    thru
>    $12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
>    listed for
>    that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
>    deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
>    has
>    me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cafe au lait oil?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Ok I will change oil and filter tomorrow. Any utility in doing a compression 
test?

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> On Apr 28, 2020, at 7:49 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> CHANGE THE OIL IMMEDIATELY< AND FILTER.
> Oil with water is the kiss of death to bearing surface... DO NOT run engine
> till it has clean oil.
> 
> Then, run engine and watch for bubbles in radiator tank.. if head gasket is
> leaking, engine compression overpowers coolant pressure and compression gas
> will bubble up...
> If gasket is really leaking, the coolant will surge up the filler neck each
> time you rev up the engine...
> If it's a little seep leak, you will get bubbles...
> If you have bubbles or surge... head gasket replacement...
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:01 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes zerex GO5 replaced in 2012, car driven only a few thousand miles
>> since. Been sitting in unheated garage for 3.5 years without getting
>> started. Oil was changed 4.5 years ago.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Could just be condensation -- I'd change the oil and filter pronto, no
>> more idling!
>>> 
>>> Sadly, it's more likely a head gasket if you have coolant loss.
>>> 
>>> You did keep proper anti-corrosive coolant in there, not green stuff,
>> right?
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Re: [MBZ] Cafe au lait oil?

[G Mann via Mercedes]

CHANGE THE OIL IMMEDIATELY< AND FILTER.
Oil with water is the kiss of death to bearing surface... DO NOT run engine
till it has clean oil.

Then, run engine and watch for bubbles in radiator tank.. if head gasket is
leaking, engine compression overpowers coolant pressure and compression gas
will bubble up...
If gasket is really leaking, the coolant will surge up the filler neck each
time you rev up the engine...
If it's a little seep leak, you will get bubbles...
If you have bubbles or surge... head gasket replacement...

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 4:01 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes zerex GO5 replaced in 2012, car driven only a few thousand miles
> since. Been sitting in unheated garage for 3.5 years without getting
> started. Oil was changed 4.5 years ago.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Could just be condensation -- I'd change the oil and filter pronto, no
> more idling!
> >
> > Sadly, it's more likely a head gasket if you have coolant loss.
> >
> > You did keep proper anti-corrosive coolant in there, not green stuff,
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Re: [MBZ] 123 idiots

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 28 Apr 2020 17:54:41 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:

> This car to be exact.
> 
> http://www.mercedesmotoring.com/cars/306/?fbclid=IwAR1vOfU_3-DudXWxfPnkE3G1BEr0n9Ld2QdtD8Db44Y4WPD6BhmmJ860v3s

It looks nice.

What about the rubber seals, etc.?

If he has that kind of money, more power to him.


Craig

> On 4/28/2020 5:54 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> > I decided to drop on the on the 123 fakebook group for the first time 
> > in 6 months or more.  I see some idiot there is getting ready to buy
> > a $60k 11k mile 300D and thinks it is a good deal.

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Re: [MBZ] Cafe au lait oil?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Yes zerex GO5 replaced in 2012, car driven only a few thousand miles since. 
Been sitting in unheated garage for 3.5 years without getting started. Oil was 
changed 4.5 years ago.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Could just be condensation -- I'd change the oil and filter pronto, no more 
> idling!
> 
> Sadly, it's more likely a head gasket if you have coolant loss.
> 
> You did keep proper anti-corrosive coolant in there, not green stuff, right?
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I thought the AC was dead.  Oh well, my bad memory I guess.

On 4/28/2020 5:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

The AC worked and I was very, very lucky that my buyer got into a bidder’s 
pissing match and got caught on the top. It was a nice car, but not an $8k nice 
car. Maybe $5k-$6k.

-D


On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

It could be a BAT candidate if it was cleaned up and had a few things done to 
it.  I figure a $4-5k real world value but on BAT, no telling what would 
happen.  After all didn't you sell a 4 door there with no working AC for crazy 
money?

On 4/28/2020 5:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I doubt it’s a BaT candidate based on what you described. If that’s the case 
and it was running and in good condition, $5k might not be an unrealistic 
price. Mileage is a big hit no matter what.

-D


On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

How long ago was that.  I figured a value of $4-5k on it realistically so I 
figured not running with flat tires $2k was fair.

On 4/28/2020 5:35 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:

Yes mine ran well when i bought it for 4200.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:


I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a
drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it
leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.

-D


On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Maybe I should up my offer to $3k

On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:

Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during

a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so
body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.

I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i

would have several.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:

There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
the past
looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
interested in
selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
about
5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
All the
tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
spots on
the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
chrome is
peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
time
seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
to see
that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
going to
sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
him want
he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
take
it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
thru
$12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
listed for
that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
has
me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.


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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

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The AC worked and I was very, very lucky that my buyer got into a bidder’s 
pissing match and got caught on the top. It was a nice car, but not an $8k nice 
car. Maybe $5k-$6k.

-D

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It could be a BAT candidate if it was cleaned up and had a few things done to 
> it.  I figure a $4-5k real world value but on BAT, no telling what would 
> happen.  After all didn't you sell a 4 door there with no working AC for 
> crazy money?
> 
> On 4/28/2020 5:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> I doubt it’s a BaT candidate based on what you described. If that’s the case 
>> and it was running and in good condition, $5k might not be an unrealistic 
>> price. Mileage is a big hit no matter what.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How long ago was that.  I figured a value of $4-5k on it realistically so I 
>>> figured not running with flat tires $2k was fair.
>>> 
>>> On 4/28/2020 5:35 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
 Yes mine ran well when i bought it for 4200.
 
 Dwight Giles Jr.
 Wickford RI
 
 On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 
 wrote:
 
> I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a
> drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals 
> it
> leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> Maybe I should up my offer to $3k
>> 
>> On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>>> Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during
> a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so
> body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
>>> I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i
> would have several.
>>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>>There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
>>>about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
>>>the past
>>>looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
>>>interested in
>>>selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
>>>about
>>>5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
>>>All the
>>>tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
>>>Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
>>>spots on
>>>the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
>>>leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
>>>Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
>>>chrome is
>>>peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
>>>Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
>>>compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
>>>time
>>>seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
>>>to see
>>>that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
>>>probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
>>>going to
>>>sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
>>>him want
>>>he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
>>>threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
>>>take
>>>it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
>>>thru
>>>$12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
>>>listed for
>>>that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
>>>deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
>>>has
>>>me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yep, I have been watching that thread over there.

On 4/28/2020 5:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Uh-oh. If emotion has entered the negotiations, walk away. You’ll never get it 
for your price. This is a battle you will always lose.

I’m working with a guy that was on PeachParts who is trying to sell his father 
in law’s 1984 380SL. FIL no longer drives and they need some $$ towards his 
care. FIL is convinced his 35+ year old car, the red headed stepchild of the 
model line, with over 160k on the clock and numerous minor issues, is worth BIG 
BUCKS. Why? Because a few years back he saw a Mecum or other high line auction 
with a car “just like his” that went for big bucks.

FIL wants to list the car for $9k. Son in law says $6k, knowing it’s a $3k-$4k 
car on a very good day. FIL has agreed to list at $6k after protracted begging 
from son in law. I told the son in law to get FIL to agree to lower the price 
$1000/month for every month it’s listed somewhere. That and keep track of every 
offer, no matter how lousy it is, so he can compile a list of offers and show 
FIL what the market says it’s worth.

This will be a long, drawn out, painful process, and we all know where it will 
end. This is what happens when emotion comes into a transaction.

-D


On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:47 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I do not think I spelled it out quite as nicely as you, I did explain I see 
them advertised anywhere from $1k on up to $7-8k but not sure if they are 
selling for that.  I just told him I was willing to pay $2k as it sits at that 
very moment.  He then started to talk about if he wanted to just sell it for 
that, or if he wanted to spend money on it and get it going.  I think he is in 
love with the car which adds to it in his mind.  He also talked about a 
grandson who told him recently he would like to come over and help him get it 
running.  There is that factor to.  As I mentioned before he seems to have a 
$7500-$12k figure in his mind for what nice ones go for.

On 4/28/2020 5:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Did you explain this to him?

Not to sound pedantic, but sometimes people just don’t get it unless you lay it 
out for them. It also validates your rationale for the price you offer, so they 
don’t immediately go into “lowball” mode or think you’re trying to rip them 
off. It also puts them in a position where you can suggest (nicely) that if 
they took a little time to get it cleaned up and running you might be 
interested at a higher price.

More than once I’ve done this and walked away, only to get a call back a few 
days later with a decent counter or notification that the car has been cleaned 
up and is now running.

-D


On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

That is why I thought a $2k offer as it sits was more than fair. If he wants to 
get full value for it, or even what he considers full value, he should get it 
running.   I do have 2 240D's but I would really like to get a turbo, its been 
many years since I have had one.  Will end up selling at least 1 of my 240Ds.

On 4/28/2020 5:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah, I find it somewhat incredulous that people place a value on a car that’s 
a market value for something that’s operable yet theirs doesn’t run. How can 
that compare?

-D


On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

That’s true

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a 
drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it 
leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.

-D


On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Maybe I should up my offer to $3k


On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during a,blizzard. I 
was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so body shop restored & 
painted it for about 6500.
I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i would 
have several.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

  There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
  about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
  the past
  looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
  interested in
  selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
  about
  5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
  All the
  tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
  Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
  spots on
  the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
  leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
  Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
  chrome is
  peeling off. 

Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Uh-oh. If emotion has entered the negotiations, walk away. You’ll never get it 
for your price. This is a battle you will always lose.

I’m working with a guy that was on PeachParts who is trying to sell his father 
in law’s 1984 380SL. FIL no longer drives and they need some $$ towards his 
care. FIL is convinced his 35+ year old car, the red headed stepchild of the 
model line, with over 160k on the clock and numerous minor issues, is worth BIG 
BUCKS. Why? Because a few years back he saw a Mecum or other high line auction 
with a car “just like his” that went for big bucks.

FIL wants to list the car for $9k. Son in law says $6k, knowing it’s a $3k-$4k 
car on a very good day. FIL has agreed to list at $6k after protracted begging 
from son in law. I told the son in law to get FIL to agree to lower the price 
$1000/month for every month it’s listed somewhere. That and keep track of every 
offer, no matter how lousy it is, so he can compile a list of offers and show 
FIL what the market says it’s worth.

This will be a long, drawn out, painful process, and we all know where it will 
end. This is what happens when emotion comes into a transaction.

-D

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:47 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I do not think I spelled it out quite as nicely as you, I did explain I see 
> them advertised anywhere from $1k on up to $7-8k but not sure if they are 
> selling for that.  I just told him I was willing to pay $2k as it sits at 
> that very moment.  He then started to talk about if he wanted to just sell it 
> for that, or if he wanted to spend money on it and get it going.  I think he 
> is in love with the car which adds to it in his mind.  He also talked about a 
> grandson who told him recently he would like to come over and help him get it 
> running.  There is that factor to.  As I mentioned before he seems to have a 
> $7500-$12k figure in his mind for what nice ones go for.
> 
> On 4/28/2020 5:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Did you explain this to him?
>> 
>> Not to sound pedantic, but sometimes people just don’t get it unless you lay 
>> it out for them. It also validates your rationale for the price you offer, 
>> so they don’t immediately go into “lowball” mode or think you’re trying to 
>> rip them off. It also puts them in a position where you can suggest (nicely) 
>> that if they took a little time to get it cleaned up and running you might 
>> be interested at a higher price.
>> 
>> More than once I’ve done this and walked away, only to get a call back a few 
>> days later with a decent counter or notification that the car has been 
>> cleaned up and is now running.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That is why I thought a $2k offer as it sits was more than fair. If he 
>>> wants to get full value for it, or even what he considers full value, he 
>>> should get it running.   I do have 2 240D's but I would really like to get 
>>> a turbo, its been many years since I have had one.  Will end up selling at 
>>> least 1 of my 240Ds.
>>> 
>>> On 4/28/2020 5:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 Yeah, I find it somewhat incredulous that people place a value on a car 
 that’s a market value for something that’s operable yet theirs doesn’t 
 run. How can that compare?
 
 -D
 
> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That’s true
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it 
>> for a drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the 
>> mechanicals it leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Maybe I should up my offer to $3k
>>> 
 On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
 Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during 
 a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 
 so body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
 I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i 
 would have several.
 
 Dwight Giles Jr.
 Wickford RI
 
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
  There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
  about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
  the past
  looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
  interested in
  selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
  about
  5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
  All the
  tires 

[MBZ] 123 idiots

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I decided to drop on the on the 123 fakebook group for the first time in 
6 months or more.  I see some idiot there is getting ready to buy a $60k 
11k mile 300D and thinks it is a good deal.



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Re: [MBZ] 123 idiots

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

This car to be exact.

http://www.mercedesmotoring.com/cars/306/?fbclid=IwAR1vOfU_3-DudXWxfPnkE3G1BEr0n9Ld2QdtD8Db44Y4WPD6BhmmJ860v3s


On 4/28/2020 5:54 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
I decided to drop on the on the 123 fakebook group for the first time 
in 6 months or more.  I see some idiot there is getting ready to buy a 
$60k 11k mile 300D and thinks it is a good deal.



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[MBZ] 123 wanted

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Who has a 123 D or CD turbo they want to sell?


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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

It could be a BAT candidate if it was cleaned up and had a few things 
done to it.  I figure a $4-5k real world value but on BAT, no telling 
what would happen.  After all didn't you sell a 4 door there with no 
working AC for crazy money?


On 4/28/2020 5:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I doubt it’s a BaT candidate based on what you described. If that’s the case 
and it was running and in good condition, $5k might not be an unrealistic 
price. Mileage is a big hit no matter what.

-D


On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

How long ago was that.  I figured a value of $4-5k on it realistically so I 
figured not running with flat tires $2k was fair.

On 4/28/2020 5:35 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:

Yes mine ran well when i bought it for 4200.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:


I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a
drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it
leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.

-D


On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Maybe I should up my offer to $3k

On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:

Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during

a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so
body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.

I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i

would have several.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:

There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
the past
looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
interested in
selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
about
5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
All the
tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
spots on
the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
chrome is
peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
time
seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
to see
that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
going to
sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
him want
he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
take
it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
thru
$12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
listed for
that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
has
me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.


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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Mmmm, good point. A CDI properly sorted is a wonderful modern MB. Even my 
eldest’s 2005 with nearly 350k on it is still a very pleasant car to drive. 
Much nicer than a CD.

-D

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Did you explain this to him?
> 
> Not to sound pedantic, but sometimes people just don’t get it unless you lay 
> it out for them. It also validates your rationale for the price you offer, so 
> they don’t immediately go into “lowball” mode or think you’re trying to rip 
> them off. It also puts them in a position where you can suggest (nicely) that 
> if they took a little time to get it cleaned up and running you might be 
> interested at a higher price.
> 
> More than once I’ve done this and walked away, only to get a call back a few 
> days later with a decent counter or notification that the car has been 
> cleaned up and is now running.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That is why I thought a $2k offer as it sits was more than fair. If he wants 
>> to get full value for it, or even what he considers full value, he should 
>> get it running.   I do have 2 240D's but I would really like to get a turbo, 
>> its been many years since I have had one.  Will end up selling at least 1 of 
>> my 240Ds.
>> 
>> On 4/28/2020 5:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Yeah, I find it somewhat incredulous that people place a value on a car 
>>> that’s a market value for something that’s operable yet theirs doesn’t run. 
>>> How can that compare?
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 That’s true
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for 
> a drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the 
> mechanicals it leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Maybe I should up my offer to $3k
>> 
>>> On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>>> Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during 
>>> a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so 
>>> body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
>>> I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i 
>>> would have several.
>>> 
>>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>> 
 On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
>>> about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
>>> the past
>>> looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
>>> interested in
>>> selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
>>> about
>>> 5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
>>> All the
>>> tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
>>> Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
>>> spots on
>>> the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
>>> leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
>>> Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
>>> chrome is
>>> peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
>>> Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
>>> compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
>>> time
>>> seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
>>> to see
>>> that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
>>> probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
>>> going to
>>> sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
>>> him want
>>> he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
>>> threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
>>> take
>>> it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
>>> thru
>>> $12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
>>> listed for
>>> that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
>>> deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
>>> has
>>> me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I do not think I spelled it out quite as nicely as you, I did explain I 
see them advertised anywhere from $1k on up to $7-8k but not sure if 
they are selling for that.  I just told him I was willing to pay $2k as 
it sits at that very moment.  He then started to talk about if he wanted 
to just sell it for that, or if he wanted to spend money on it and get 
it going.  I think he is in love with the car which adds to it in his 
mind.  He also talked about a grandson who told him recently he would 
like to come over and help him get it running.  There is that factor 
to.  As I mentioned before he seems to have a $7500-$12k figure in his 
mind for what nice ones go for.


On 4/28/2020 5:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Did you explain this to him?

Not to sound pedantic, but sometimes people just don’t get it unless you lay it 
out for them. It also validates your rationale for the price you offer, so they 
don’t immediately go into “lowball” mode or think you’re trying to rip them 
off. It also puts them in a position where you can suggest (nicely) that if 
they took a little time to get it cleaned up and running you might be 
interested at a higher price.

More than once I’ve done this and walked away, only to get a call back a few 
days later with a decent counter or notification that the car has been cleaned 
up and is now running.

-D


On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

That is why I thought a $2k offer as it sits was more than fair. If he wants to 
get full value for it, or even what he considers full value, he should get it 
running.   I do have 2 240D's but I would really like to get a turbo, its been 
many years since I have had one.  Will end up selling at least 1 of my 240Ds.

On 4/28/2020 5:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah, I find it somewhat incredulous that people place a value on a car that’s 
a market value for something that’s operable yet theirs doesn’t run. How can 
that compare?

-D


On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

That’s true

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a 
drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it 
leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.

-D


On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Maybe I should up my offer to $3k


On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during a,blizzard. I 
was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so body shop restored & 
painted it for about 6500.
I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i would 
have several.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

  There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
  about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
  the past
  looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
  interested in
  selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
  about
  5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
  All the
  tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
  Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
  spots on
  the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
  leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
  Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
  chrome is
  peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
  Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
  compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
  time
  seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
  to see
  that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
  probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
  going to
  sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
  him want
  he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
  threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
  take
  it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
  thru
  $12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
  listed for
  that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
  deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
  has
  me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.


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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I doubt it’s a BaT candidate based on what you described. If that’s the case 
and it was running and in good condition, $5k might not be an unrealistic 
price. Mileage is a big hit no matter what.

-D

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> How long ago was that.  I figured a value of $4-5k on it realistically so I 
> figured not running with flat tires $2k was fair.
> 
> On 4/28/2020 5:35 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
>> Yes mine ran well when i bought it for 4200.
>> 
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a
>>> drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it
>>> leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 Maybe I should up my offer to $3k
 
 On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
> Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during
>>> a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so
>>> body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
> I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i
>>> would have several.
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
>about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
>the past
>looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
>interested in
>selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
>about
>5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
>All the
>tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
>Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
>spots on
>the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
>leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
>Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
>chrome is
>peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
>Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
>compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
>time
>seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
>to see
>that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
>probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
>going to
>sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
>him want
>he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
>threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
>take
>it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
>thru
>$12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
>listed for
>that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
>deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
>has
>me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I am sure I could have thrown a battery in it and I bet it would start 
right up.  Knowing the guy (who is Jewish BTW which may factor in, sorry 
if I offended any of our Jewish friends) I figure it probably runs 
good.  I was make the offer as is trying to make it seem like it will 
take a lot more to get it running that what I am betting it needs.  On 
the other hand, it may have zero compression and not run at all, or 
maybe the tank is full of algae.


On 4/28/2020 5:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Not to rant, but if yours was worth $4200 at the time and it was running, what 
would a comparably appointed car of the same mileage and vintage be worth if 
it’s not running?

(I’m not ranting at you, just using your car as an example to make a point.)

The logic escapes me when people come up with this dreck.

-D


On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes  
wrote:

Yes mine ran well when i bought it for 4200.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:


I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a
drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it
leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.

-D


On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Maybe I should up my offer to $3k

On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:

Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during

a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so
body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.

I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i

would have several.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:

   There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
   about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
   the past
   looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
   interested in
   selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
   about
   5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
   All the
   tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
   Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
   spots on
   the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
   leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
   Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
   chrome is
   peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
   Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
   compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
   time
   seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
   to see
   that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
   probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
   going to
   sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
   him want
   he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
   threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
   take
   it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
   thru
   $12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
   listed for
   that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
   deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
   has
   me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.


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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Did you explain this to him?

Not to sound pedantic, but sometimes people just don’t get it unless you lay it 
out for them. It also validates your rationale for the price you offer, so they 
don’t immediately go into “lowball” mode or think you’re trying to rip them 
off. It also puts them in a position where you can suggest (nicely) that if 
they took a little time to get it cleaned up and running you might be 
interested at a higher price.

More than once I’ve done this and walked away, only to get a call back a few 
days later with a decent counter or notification that the car has been cleaned 
up and is now running.

-D

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That is why I thought a $2k offer as it sits was more than fair. If he wants 
> to get full value for it, or even what he considers full value, he should get 
> it running.   I do have 2 240D's but I would really like to get a turbo, its 
> been many years since I have had one.  Will end up selling at least 1 of my 
> 240Ds.
> 
> On 4/28/2020 5:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Yeah, I find it somewhat incredulous that people place a value on a car 
>> that’s a market value for something that’s operable yet theirs doesn’t run. 
>> How can that compare?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That’s true
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for 
 a drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals 
 it leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.
 
 -D
 
> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Maybe I should up my offer to $3k
> 
>> On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>> Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during 
>> a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so 
>> body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
>> I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i 
>> would have several.
>> 
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>  There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
>>  about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
>>  the past
>>  looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
>>  interested in
>>  selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
>>  about
>>  5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
>>  All the
>>  tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
>>  Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
>>  spots on
>>  the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
>>  leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
>>  Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
>>  chrome is
>>  peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
>>  Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
>>  compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
>>  time
>>  seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
>>  to see
>>  that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
>>  probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
>>  going to
>>  sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
>>  him want
>>  he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
>>  threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
>>  take
>>  it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
>>  thru
>>  $12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
>>  listed for
>>  that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
>>  deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
>>  has
>>  me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

How long ago was that.  I figured a value of $4-5k on it realistically 
so I figured not running with flat tires $2k was fair.


On 4/28/2020 5:35 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:

Yes mine ran well when i bought it for 4200.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:


I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a
drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it
leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.

-D


On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Maybe I should up my offer to $3k

On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:

Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during

a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so
body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.

I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i

would have several.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:

There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
the past
looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
interested in
selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
about
5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
All the
tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
spots on
the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
chrome is
peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
time
seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
to see
that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
going to
sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
him want
he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
take
it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
thru
$12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
listed for
that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
has
me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.


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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Not to rant, but if yours was worth $4200 at the time and it was running, what 
would a comparably appointed car of the same mileage and vintage be worth if 
it’s not running?

(I’m not ranting at you, just using your car as an example to make a point.)

The logic escapes me when people come up with this dreck.

-D

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes mine ran well when i bought it for 4200.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a
>> drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it
>> leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Maybe I should up my offer to $3k
>>> 
>>> On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
 Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during
>> a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so
>> body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
 I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i
>> would have several.
 
 Dwight Giles Jr.
 Wickford RI
 
 On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
 
   There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
   about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
   the past
   looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
   interested in
   selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
   about
   5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
   All the
   tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
   Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
   spots on
   the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
   leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
   Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
   chrome is
   peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
   Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
   compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
   time
   seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
   to see
   that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
   probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
   going to
   sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
   him want
   he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
   threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
   take
   it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
   thru
   $12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
   listed for
   that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
   deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
   has
   me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

That is why I thought a $2k offer as it sits was more than fair. If he 
wants to get full value for it, or even what he considers full value, he 
should get it running.   I do have 2 240D's but I would really like to 
get a turbo, its been many years since I have had one.  Will end up 
selling at least 1 of my 240Ds.


On 4/28/2020 5:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah, I find it somewhat incredulous that people place a value on a car that’s 
a market value for something that’s operable yet theirs doesn’t run. How can 
that compare?

-D


On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

That’s true

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a 
drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it 
leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.

-D


On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Maybe I should up my offer to $3k


On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during a,blizzard. I 
was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so body shop restored & 
painted it for about 6500.
I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i would 
have several.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

  There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
  about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
  the past
  looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
  interested in
  selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
  about
  5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
  All the
  tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
  Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
  spots on
  the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
  leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
  Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
  chrome is
  peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
  Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
  compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
  time
  seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
  to see
  that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
  probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
  going to
  sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
  him want
  he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
  threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
  take
  it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
  thru
  $12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
  listed for
  that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
  deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
  has
  me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.


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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes mine ran well when i bought it for 4200.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a
> drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it
> leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.
>
> -D
>
> > On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe I should up my offer to $3k
> >
> > On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
> >> Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during
> a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so
> body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
> >> I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i
> would have several.
> >>
> >> Dwight Giles Jr.
> >> Wickford RI
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >>
> >>There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
> >>about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
> >>the past
> >>looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
> >>interested in
> >>selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
> >>about
> >>5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.
> >>All the
> >>tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
> >>Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
> >>spots on
> >>the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
> >>leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
> >>Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
> >>chrome is
> >>peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
> >>Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
> >>compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
> >>time
> >>seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
> >>to see
> >>that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
> >>probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
> >>going to
> >>sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
> >>him want
> >>he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
> >>threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
> >>take
> >>it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
> >>thru
> >>$12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
> >>listed for
> >>that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
> >>deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
> >>has
> >>me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, I find it somewhat incredulous that people place a value on a car that’s 
a market value for something that’s operable yet theirs doesn’t run. How can 
that compare?

-D

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That’s true 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a 
>> drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it 
>> leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Maybe I should up my offer to $3k
>>> 
 On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
 Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during 
 a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so 
 body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
 I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i 
 would have several.
 
 Dwight Giles Jr.
 Wickford RI
 
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
 
  There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
  about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
  the past
  looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
  interested in
  selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
  about
  5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it. 
  All the
  tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
  Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
  spots on
  the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
  leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
  Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
  chrome is
  peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
  Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
  compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
  time
  seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
  to see
  that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
  probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
  going to
  sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
  him want
  he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
  threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
  take
  it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
  thru
  $12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
  listed for
  that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
  deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
  has
  me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

That’s true 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a 
> drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it 
> leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Maybe I should up my offer to $3k
>> 
>>> On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>>> Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during 
>>> a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so 
>>> body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
>>> I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i 
>>> would have several.
>>> 
>>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>> 
 On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
>>>   about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
>>>   the past
>>>   looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
>>>   interested in
>>>   selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
>>>   about
>>>   5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it. 
>>>   All the
>>>   tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
>>>   Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
>>>   spots on
>>>   the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
>>>   leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
>>>   Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
>>>   chrome is
>>>   peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
>>>   Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
>>>   compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
>>>   time
>>>   seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
>>>   to see
>>>   that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
>>>   probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
>>>   going to
>>>   sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
>>>   him want
>>>   he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
>>>   threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
>>>   take
>>>   it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
>>>   thru
>>>   $12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
>>>   listed for
>>>   that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
>>>   deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
>>>   has
>>>   me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.
>>> 
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[MBZ] Another V12 for the Floydster

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Here ya go, buddy:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/tampa-mercedes-benz-cl-amg/7115508202.html
 


I wonder when it was pranged in the right front? Either that or someone put 
aftermarket headlights in it? Missing the hood badge, too.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I wouldn’t offer jack until you can drop a battery in it and take it for a 
drive. Cosmetics might be nice but it if you can’t check the mechanicals it 
leaves a LOT of questions unanswered.

-D

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Maybe I should up my offer to $3k
> 
> On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
>> Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during 
>> a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so body 
>> shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
>> I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i would 
>> have several.
>> 
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
>>about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
>>the past
>>looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
>>interested in
>>selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
>>about
>>5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it. 
>>All the
>>tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
>>Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
>>spots on
>>the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
>>leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
>>Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
>>chrome is
>>peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
>>Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
>>compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
>>time
>>seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
>>to see
>>that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
>>probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
>>going to
>>sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
>>him want
>>he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
>>threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
>>take
>>it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
>>thru
>>$12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
>>listed for
>>that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
>>deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
>>has
>>me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cafe au lait oil?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Coolant loss is to the outside from reservoir.

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> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Could just be condensation -- I'd change the oil and filter pronto, no more 
> idling!
> 
> Sadly, it's more likely a head gasket if you have coolant loss.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cafe au lait oil?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

There was a 1 foot square puddle of coolant on the ground. The hose that goes 
to coolant reservoir from radiator is at top of coolant reservoir and way above 
high water mark so I don’t think it would create bubbles.

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> On Apr 28, 2020, at 6:12 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> 
> Get it up to temperature and have someone rev the throttle while you look in 
> the coolant reservoir for bubbles.
> 
> What’s a “good amount” of coolant? Not being snarky, just trying to get an 
> idea of how much was coming out and how fast.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:24 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> My pagoda has been sitting for 3.5 years. It starts and runs well but I 
>> noticed a good amount of coolant leaking from overflow tube and this slight 
>> emulsion in oil. Could it be possible it’s just moisture condensation in 
>> crankcase from long term storage? Or is it dreaded corroded head or blown 
>> head gasket?
>> Not noticing white smoke from exhaust or overheating. Not driving it just 
>> idling in garage and driveway.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Maybe I should up my offer to $3k

On 4/28/2020 5:15 PM, Dwight Giles wrote:
Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during 
a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 
so body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i 
would have several.


Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in
the past
looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be
interested in
selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting
about
5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it. 
All the
tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of
spots on
the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the
chrome is
peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first
time
seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting
to see
that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner. It was
probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either
going to
sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked
him want
he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not
take
it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500
thru
$12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are
listed for
that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car. This now
has
me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.


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Re: [MBZ] 85 300CD

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Some sell on BAT for 15K. In 2013 a tree came down on my 82 during
a,blizzard. I was ready to kiss good by but ins co said,worth 13,400 so
body shop restored & painted it for about 6500.
I think they are the ultimate,123 diesel. If i had room & permission i
would have several.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 5:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it
> about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in the past
> looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be interested in
> selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting about
> 5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.  All the
> tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.
> Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of spots on
> the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan
> leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.
> Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the chrome is
> peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.
> Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac
> compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first time
> seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting to see
> that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner.  It was
> probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either going to
> sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked him want
> he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I
> threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not take
> it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500 thru
> $12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are listed for
> that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a
> deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car.  This now has
> me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.
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Re: [MBZ] Cafe au lait oil?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Get it up to temperature and have someone rev the throttle while you look in 
the coolant reservoir for bubbles.

What’s a “good amount” of coolant? Not being snarky, just trying to get an idea 
of how much was coming out and how fast.

-D

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 5:24 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My pagoda has been sitting for 3.5 years. It starts and runs well but I 
> noticed a good amount of coolant leaking from overflow tube and this slight 
> emulsion in oil. Could it be possible it’s just moisture condensation in 
> crankcase from long term storage? Or is it dreaded corroded head or blown 
> head gasket?
> Not noticing white smoke from exhaust or overheating. Not driving it just 
> idling in garage and driveway.
> 
> 
> 
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[MBZ] 85 300CD

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

There is this old guy I know who has this 85 300CD.  He has owned it 
about 25 years and bought it in CA. He has asked me about it in the past 
looking for parts etc. The other day he said he might be interested in 
selling it so I went and looked at it today.  Car has been sitting about 
5 years, he just parked it under a carport and quit driving it.  All the 
tires were flat although tires themselves looked good.  Zero rust.  
Paint is pretty good but has some light fading in a couple of spots on 
the hood. Might clean up, not sure.  It is a smoke silver with tan 
leather.  Leather is in great shape, even the back of the back seat.  
Had around 250k miles on it.  Needs a new rear bumper as the chrome is 
peeling off.  Wheels are chromed and peeling.  Battery is very dead.  
Guy says the front end has been rebuilt, new radiator, new ac 
compressor.  I have seen the car around town but this is the first time 
seeing it up close.  Being that it was a CA model I was expecting to see 
that funky CA air cleaner but it had a regular air cleaner.  It was 
probably swapped out would be my guess.  He said he was either going to 
sell it or put about $3k in it and get it going again.  I asked him want 
he wanted for it and of course he did not have an amount in mind.  I 
threw out a $2k offer which I thought was very fair but he did not take 
it.  Just said he would think about it.  He has a figure of $7500 thru 
$12k for these in really nice shape.  I agree maybe these are listed for 
that but not sure if they actually sell for that.  Needless to say a 
deal was not made but I sure would like to have this car.  This now has 
me wanting a 300D turbo, would not mind a CD.



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Re: [MBZ] Cafe au lait oil?

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Could just be condensation -- I'd change the oil and filter pronto, no more 
idling!

Sadly, it's more likely a head gasket if you have coolant loss.

You did keep proper anti-corrosive coolant in there, not green stuff, right?
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Re: [MBZ] Yay me!!!

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yes fersher and this will actually be better and stronger. I could be a Benz 
Mirror Engineer. As complicated as the whole assembly is one might think that 
would have been the first solution 

--FT
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> On Apr 28, 2020, at 4:20 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Very nice. Don’t you just love when you can rescue something like this for 
> minimal effort and expense?
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I went with Max to LKQ Saturday to snag some bits, one of which was a pass 
>> mirror for the $600E320 as it was flopping around and the glass was about to 
>> fall out too. 
>> 
>> Took the old one apart and discovered the inside spring attachment point, a 
>> little tab part of the pot metal casting, was broken off.  Bah no joy there. 
>> Took the “new” apart, same issue. Bah, it looked ok at the yard. So no joy. 
>> 
>> Decided to bodge up a fix to the one on the car. There was enough metal 
>> around where the tab was that I could drill out a hole on either side of 
>> where the tab had been. Cut about an inch off a galvanized finish nail and 
>> slipped it through the holes then hooked the spring end over that with a bit 
>> of persuasion!  Joy!
>> 
>> Got the glass reattached too, it had popped out of the retainer spring so 
>> that was easy. 
>> 
>> I guess I’ll keep the “new “ mirror if I need a spare and can fix it too. 
>> 
>> You can see the broken-off tab and the nail. It is a crappy part and clearly 
>> not well-engineered for the job, that spring is strong and the pot metal is 
>> not. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Yay me!!!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I really hate dealing with the 90s vintage mirrors, the ones that are 
adjustable and held in place with the spring wire. Some can be replaced in a 
matter of seconds, while the next one takes you 30 minutes.

I had to R the passenger side mirror on the ML500 as a buddy got me the LED 
turn signal piece that goes in the mirror housing from a knacker. The mirror 
came out easily enough, and amazingly went right back in. The last one I did I 
had to fiddle with for a good 10 minutes.

-D

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 4:21 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Actually that’s not a bad idea as it is not hard but there are some fiddly 
> aspects to the mirror. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 3:38 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Bravo!  Make a you-tube vid, you'll be famous.
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 3:10 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I went with Max to LKQ Saturday to snag some bits, one of which was a pass
>>> mirror for the $600E320 as it was flopping around and the glass was about
>>> to fall out too.
>>> 
>>> Took the old one apart and discovered the inside spring attachment point,
>>> a little tab part of the pot metal casting, was broken off.  Bah no joy
>>> there. Took the “new” apart, same issue. Bah, it looked ok at the yard. So
>>> no joy.
>>> 
>>> Decided to bodge up a fix to the one on the car. There was enough metal
>>> around where the tab was that I could drill out a hole on either side of
>>> where the tab had been. Cut about an inch off a galvanized finish nail and
>>> slipped it through the holes then hooked the spring end over that with a
>>> bit of persuasion!  Joy!
>>> 
>>> Got the glass reattached too, it had popped out of the retainer spring so
>>> that was easy.
>>> 
>>> I guess I’ll keep the “new “ mirror if I need a spare and can fix it too.
>>> 
>>> You can see the broken-off tab and the nail. It is a crappy part and
>>> clearly not well-engineered for the job, that spring is strong and the pot
>>> metal is not.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Yay me!!!

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Actually that’s not a bad idea as it is not hard but there are some fiddly 
aspects to the mirror. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 3:38 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Bravo!  Make a you-tube vid, you'll be famous.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 3:10 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I went with Max to LKQ Saturday to snag some bits, one of which was a pass
>> mirror for the $600E320 as it was flopping around and the glass was about
>> to fall out too.
>> 
>> Took the old one apart and discovered the inside spring attachment point,
>> a little tab part of the pot metal casting, was broken off.  Bah no joy
>> there. Took the “new” apart, same issue. Bah, it looked ok at the yard. So
>> no joy.
>> 
>> Decided to bodge up a fix to the one on the car. There was enough metal
>> around where the tab was that I could drill out a hole on either side of
>> where the tab had been. Cut about an inch off a galvanized finish nail and
>> slipped it through the holes then hooked the spring end over that with a
>> bit of persuasion!  Joy!
>> 
>> Got the glass reattached too, it had popped out of the retainer spring so
>> that was easy.
>> 
>> I guess I’ll keep the “new “ mirror if I need a spare and can fix it too.
>> 
>> You can see the broken-off tab and the nail. It is a crappy part and
>> clearly not well-engineered for the job, that spring is strong and the pot
>> metal is not.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Yay me!!!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Very nice. Don’t you just love when you can rescue something like this for 
minimal effort and expense?

-D


> On Apr 28, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I went with Max to LKQ Saturday to snag some bits, one of which was a pass 
> mirror for the $600E320 as it was flopping around and the glass was about to 
> fall out too. 
> 
> Took the old one apart and discovered the inside spring attachment point, a 
> little tab part of the pot metal casting, was broken off.  Bah no joy there. 
> Took the “new” apart, same issue. Bah, it looked ok at the yard. So no joy. 
> 
> Decided to bodge up a fix to the one on the car. There was enough metal 
> around where the tab was that I could drill out a hole on either side of 
> where the tab had been. Cut about an inch off a galvanized finish nail and 
> slipped it through the holes then hooked the spring end over that with a bit 
> of persuasion!  Joy!
> 
> Got the glass reattached too, it had popped out of the retainer spring so 
> that was easy. 
> 
> I guess I’ll keep the “new “ mirror if I need a spare and can fix it too. 
> 
> You can see the broken-off tab and the nail. It is a crappy part and clearly 
> not well-engineered for the job, that spring is strong and the pot metal is 
> not. 
> 
> 
> 
> --R
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[MBZ] Yay me 2!!!

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I pulled a washer pump and tank grommet from a 210 at the knacker Saturday. I 
have not had squirters in the $600E320 since I got it and spent a huge amount 
of time screwing around with the squirters Which I thought were all plugged up  
New are like $55. 

I put in the grommet, put in the pump, filled the tank and hit the squirt 
button and JOY  I have squirts now. 

A $0.50 grommet... $5shipping... I need to remember to order some the next time 
I get some bits. 

I feel pretty stupid though...

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] Yay me!!!

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Bravo!  Make a you-tube vid, you'll be famous.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 3:10 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I went with Max to LKQ Saturday to snag some bits, one of which was a pass
> mirror for the $600E320 as it was flopping around and the glass was about
> to fall out too.
>
> Took the old one apart and discovered the inside spring attachment point,
> a little tab part of the pot metal casting, was broken off.  Bah no joy
> there. Took the “new” apart, same issue. Bah, it looked ok at the yard. So
> no joy.
>
> Decided to bodge up a fix to the one on the car. There was enough metal
> around where the tab was that I could drill out a hole on either side of
> where the tab had been. Cut about an inch off a galvanized finish nail and
> slipped it through the holes then hooked the spring end over that with a
> bit of persuasion!  Joy!
>
> Got the glass reattached too, it had popped out of the retainer spring so
> that was easy.
>
> I guess I’ll keep the “new “ mirror if I need a spare and can fix it too.
>
> You can see the broken-off tab and the nail. It is a crappy part and
> clearly not well-engineered for the job, that spring is strong and the pot
> metal is not.
>
>
>
> --R
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[MBZ] Garage Porn

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

This is safe for work, families, etc.

http://penoff.com/Photo_Dump.html#1 

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Could be OnT -- License plate frames

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

OR maybe . . .

On 28/04/2020 11:58 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

E P S T E I N
.
.
.
would have caught flu anyway
-
Max
Charleston SC





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Re: [MBZ] Could be OnT -- License plate frames

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

E P S T E I N
.
.
.
Did not kill himself
-
Max
Charleston SC


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> I saw this guy will make custom license plate frames, whatever you might
> want.
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/sch/creativeplateframes/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=
>
> I ordered this and he made it up for me
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/264712631590  I think I'm going to put it on
> the SL600
>
> It could be kinda fun to make up various Benz plates.  He prints up the
> text/graphic stuff on vinyl then inserts it into the plate so it can be
> very custom.
>
> Nice guy, very responsive and $11 is not a bad price for a hack
>
> --
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Pics of the 280E and issues

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This outfit has good prices.  https://www.mercedespartshub.com/

Their vehicle selector only goes back to 1984 but they have these parts 
for a good price.  I'm not sure what outfit this is, dealer maybe.  I 
sent them a message asking about the various connectors and vac line so 
will wait to hear back.  The lines seem to be separate parts but I'm 
sure generic lines will be fine. That diagram you linked was helpful, I 
will fire up the winders computer and open up the EPC I have and dig 
through it for more detail


--FT

On 4/22/20 11:39 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

And since that line drawing probably didn’t post, here’s a link:

http://mb-teilekatalog.info/images/Imgs/BM_IMAGES_ARC/B14001000308.920604.png

-D



On Apr 22, 2020, at 11:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

And just to clarify, the 50 degree one is #842, the 17 degree is #849:






On Apr 22, 2020, at 11:34 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

I just checked and it appears that the two thermovalves that are broken off at 
the fittings are still available and relatively cheap, about $22-$25/each.

000 140 71 60, Thermovalve, opening at 50 degrees
000 140 34 60, Thermovalve, opening at 17 degrees

-D



On Apr 22, 2020, at 11:23 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

Looks like someone savaged the vacuum lines. A couple of the vacuum/temperature 
switches are obviously toast, but can be replaced easily. In #30 there’s some 
sort of a vacuum/electrical device I can’t identify, but it’s clearly 
disconnected but may be functional.

What I’ve found on a lot of cars like this one is that the vacuum system gets 
boogered up and some dim bulb decides they can just yank everything and make it 
work right. Which of course ends poorly. The best approach I have found is to 
get some bulk (hard) vacuum line and some hose and replace everything in the 
system. It’s cheap yet time consuming, but if you do’t get this sorted out of 
the gate you’ll never be able to get things working properly.

Hard vacuum line is cheap as wine on ILW, I think I bought 10 meters of the 
stuff a few years ago for $15, which is almost a lifetime supply for most 
people. I also have a box of the rubber vacuum fittings of various types along 
with a few meters of the bulk hose to make up connections.

I don’t recall seeing a lot of black cars in the day, so that probably makes it 
a bit rare. The interior looks pretty good, and the exterior has the usual 
cruft that all these cars suffer from, unfortunately. Being black they’re not 
that noticeable, however.

If I was prioritizing things on this, I would get the belt installed and then 
get a vacuum diagram and get all of the vacuum stuff sorted. At least at that 
point you’ve got a foundation to work from, which you’ll need if you have to 
mess with the FI at all.

-D



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 wrote:

There are some things you can see in the pics I will need some help with, will 
deal with that soon.  Forgot to mention it has the original radio in it and I 
think it works, I forgot to check it. Did not get a pic of that, I will add to 
the folder later today along with some others.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1TPKngNrteqcuIk2snudTBdGGtzQW_TmI

Per Jaime's comment yesterday, I checked under the intake manifold and found a 
vac line falling off, the connector is rotted, so that will be something to go 
through.  Probably others too, I'll need to buy a bunch of that stuff I guess.  
Also you can see in pic 30 this vac thing that has nothing attached to it and I 
can't tell where it is supposed to be bolted down, will need to figure out 
whussup wif dat.  Looks like I need to dig into the 123 workshop manual and get 
all the engine diagrams and such.

Also in pic26 there are those fittings on the pass side of the block that have 
nothing attached to them, and you can sorta see where stuff was oozing from 
what I guess is the head gasket leaking in there.

Newish AC compressor, alternator (with munched belt in there), PS pump it looks 
like.  Exhaust muffler, pipes, resonator all new, looked like new boots on the 
rear axles outboard but the axles did not look newish.  Tires pretty new.  I 
don't know if the AC works or not, will have to put the gauges on it and see if 
has pressure or will hold a vac.

For $1300 I guess I can't complain, it runs and looks decent from 20ft.  I'll 
sort out a few issues and see what the DMV are up to these days, get some 
plates and drive it a bit.

Oh, and it has a solid roof!

--
--FT


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Re: [MBZ] 1995 E420

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Carparts.com 

Waiting for the confirmation of shipping. $75 plus nearly that for shipping. 
Still a bargain.

-D

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 11:49 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Where did you get a bumper cover?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 10:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The $1500 1995 E420 arrived yesterday morning from Columbus OH about 9:30. 
>> No surprises for the most part.
>> 
>> I forgot how much fun these cars are. Really. The W124 has that “bank vault” 
>> feeling when you close the door, and the interior, while spartan, is 
>> comfortable yet “tight”. Engine idles smoothly, could easily pass the 
>> champagne glass test. Everything, I mean EVERYTHING, works on this car. If 
>> there was a complaint I would say that the sunroof doesn’t open all the way, 
>> but that’s clearly due to a need for a good greasing. Suspension is tight, 
>> there’s no wandering, swaying and the steering tracks straight and true.
>> 
>> The good:
>> 
>> Everything works
>> 113,000 miles on the clock
>> All maintenance up to date
>> Nearly new (snow) tires on the car, spare set of wheels with old Michelins
>> Suspension rubber appears to be tight
>> No road or drivetrain noises
>> Inside of valve covers are CLEAN
>> 
>> The bad, or not so bad:
>> 
>> Paint on roof is toast. Clear coat is a crackle finish. Good part is that 
>> this is limited to the roof, so it would be easy to fix. Rest of the paint 
>> is good.
>> Driver’s seat bottom is torn
>> One rear headrest is split
>> Front bumper cover is missing under right corner. Gone.
>> ASR and ABS lights are on. SDS revealed a bad idle position switch, which is 
>> on order
>> Brake booster leaks internally
>> Both air intake hoses are toast
>> Broken right front sway bar bracket
>> Coolant reservoir level switch is bad
>> Trunk lid stops are gone
>> Fuse box lid has one hook broken off
>> Retainer mounts on the tops of the headlights are broken or missing
>> Blower motor regulator needs to be replaced, only runs on low speed
>> Cover for seat heater fuses is missing
>> 
>> So yes, it’s not perfect and there are some minor repairs needed, but the 
>> seller made these all known so they’re not a surprise. I’ve ordered all of 
>> the parts necessary for the repairs so as those trickle in I’ll be covering 
>> the jobs as I do them. Big ones will be the brake booster and the blower 
>> motor regulator. All the rest are little rinky-dink ones I can do as the 
>> parts show up. I ordered a new lock cylinder, too, as the keys I have are 
>> both pretty worn. Might as well replace the lock cylinder and get a new key 
>> out of the deal since I would order a new key anyway.
>> 
>> I’ll drive it with the snow tires as they’re literally new. No need to drop 
>> serious coin for new skins when these will do the job, they’ll just wear out 
>> quicker. I got a new front bumper cover for under $150 shipped, so I’ll need 
>> to rattle can that along with the bumper strip, since it’s still black 
>> (should be bumper color on this model year).
>> 
>> It may take some time to get the paperwork sorted since I’ve got to do 
>> everything with the tax collector (they do all the DMV stuff in FL) through 
>> the mail. I could swap a valid plate from one of my other cars and drive it 
>> without an issue, I’m sure, but it would be nice to be legal.
>> 
>> More fun as it takes place! First parts order is probably due on Thursday, 
>> so that’s when the fun really starts!
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1995 E420

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Where did you get a bumper cover?

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> On Apr 28, 2020, at 10:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The $1500 1995 E420 arrived yesterday morning from Columbus OH about 9:30. 
> No surprises for the most part.
> 
> I forgot how much fun these cars are. Really. The W124 has that “bank vault” 
> feeling when you close the door, and the interior, while spartan, is 
> comfortable yet “tight”. Engine idles smoothly, could easily pass the 
> champagne glass test. Everything, I mean EVERYTHING, works on this car. If 
> there was a complaint I would say that the sunroof doesn’t open all the way, 
> but that’s clearly due to a need for a good greasing. Suspension is tight, 
> there’s no wandering, swaying and the steering tracks straight and true.
> 
> The good:
> 
> Everything works
> 113,000 miles on the clock
> All maintenance up to date
> Nearly new (snow) tires on the car, spare set of wheels with old Michelins
> Suspension rubber appears to be tight
> No road or drivetrain noises
> Inside of valve covers are CLEAN
> 
> The bad, or not so bad:
> 
> Paint on roof is toast. Clear coat is a crackle finish. Good part is that 
> this is limited to the roof, so it would be easy to fix. Rest of the paint is 
> good.
> Driver’s seat bottom is torn
> One rear headrest is split
> Front bumper cover is missing under right corner. Gone.
> ASR and ABS lights are on. SDS revealed a bad idle position switch, which is 
> on order
> Brake booster leaks internally
> Both air intake hoses are toast
> Broken right front sway bar bracket
> Coolant reservoir level switch is bad
> Trunk lid stops are gone
> Fuse box lid has one hook broken off
> Retainer mounts on the tops of the headlights are broken or missing
> Blower motor regulator needs to be replaced, only runs on low speed
> Cover for seat heater fuses is missing
> 
> So yes, it’s not perfect and there are some minor repairs needed, but the 
> seller made these all known so they’re not a surprise. I’ve ordered all of 
> the parts necessary for the repairs so as those trickle in I’ll be covering 
> the jobs as I do them. Big ones will be the brake booster and the blower 
> motor regulator. All the rest are little rinky-dink ones I can do as the 
> parts show up. I ordered a new lock cylinder, too, as the keys I have are 
> both pretty worn. Might as well replace the lock cylinder and get a new key 
> out of the deal since I would order a new key anyway.
> 
> I’ll drive it with the snow tires as they’re literally new. No need to drop 
> serious coin for new skins when these will do the job, they’ll just wear out 
> quicker. I got a new front bumper cover for under $150 shipped, so I’ll need 
> to rattle can that along with the bumper strip, since it’s still black 
> (should be bumper color on this model year).
> 
> It may take some time to get the paperwork sorted since I’ve got to do 
> everything with the tax collector (they do all the DMV stuff in FL) through 
> the mail. I could swap a valid plate from one of my other cars and drive it 
> without an issue, I’m sure, but it would be nice to be legal.
> 
> More fun as it takes place! First parts order is probably due on Thursday, so 
> that’s when the fun really starts!
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1995 E420

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

No prep. I’ll leave that to the professionals. Other than maybe removing trim 
to make their job easier. I don’t do paint, it’s an art form.

-D

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 11:43 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 28/04/2020 10:40 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Yeah, that’s a possibility. I’m not in a hurry to do the roof at this point. 
>> I may shop around and see what local shops want to do the work first. Good 
>> idea, though, thanks!
>> 
>> -D
>> 
> Shouldn't cost a fortune to have it sprayed if you do the prep work.
> 
> RB
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1995 E420

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 28/04/2020 10:40 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah, that’s a possibility. I’m not in a hurry to do the roof at this point. I 
may shop around and see what local shops want to do the work first. Good idea, 
though, thanks!

-D


Shouldn't cost a fortune to have it sprayed if you do the prep work.

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Re: [MBZ] 1995 E420

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, that’s a possibility. I’m not in a hurry to do the roof at this point. I 
may shop around and see what local shops want to do the work first. Good idea, 
though, thanks!

-D

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 11:30 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If you are going to have the roof repainted, you may as well have them do the 
> bumper cover at the same time.
> 
> RB
> 
> 
> On 28/04/2020 10:17 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> The $1500 1995 E420 arrived yesterday morning from Columbus OH about 9:30. 
>> No surprises for the most part.
>> 
>> I forgot how much fun these cars are. Really. The W124 has that “bank vault” 
>> feeling when you close the door, and the interior, while spartan, is 
>> comfortable yet “tight”. Engine idles smoothly, could easily pass the 
>> champagne glass test. Everything, I mean EVERYTHING, works on this car. If 
>> there was a complaint I would say that the sunroof doesn’t open all the way, 
>> but that’s clearly due to a need for a good greasing. Suspension is tight, 
>> there’s no wandering, swaying and the steering tracks straight and true.
>> 
>> The good:
>> 
>> Everything works
>> 113,000 miles on the clock
>> All maintenance up to date
>> Nearly new (snow) tires on the car, spare set of wheels with old Michelins
>> Suspension rubber appears to be tight
>> No road or drivetrain noises
>> Inside of valve covers are CLEAN
>> 
>> The bad, or not so bad:
>> 
>> Paint on roof is toast. Clear coat is a crackle finish. Good part is that 
>> this is limited to the roof, so it would be easy to fix. Rest of the paint 
>> is good.
>> Driver’s seat bottom is torn
>> One rear headrest is split
>> Front bumper cover is missing under right corner. Gone.
>> ASR and ABS lights are on. SDS revealed a bad idle position switch, which is 
>> on order
>> Brake booster leaks internally
>> Both air intake hoses are toast
>> Broken right front sway bar bracket
>> Coolant reservoir level switch is bad
>> Trunk lid stops are gone
>> Fuse box lid has one hook broken off
>> Retainer mounts on the tops of the headlights are broken or missing
>> Blower motor regulator needs to be replaced, only runs on low speed
>> Cover for seat heater fuses is missing
>> 
>> So yes, it’s not perfect and there are some minor repairs needed, but the 
>> seller made these all known so they’re not a surprise. I’ve ordered all of 
>> the parts necessary for the repairs so as those trickle in I’ll be covering 
>> the jobs as I do them. Big ones will be the brake booster and the blower 
>> motor regulator. All the rest are little rinky-dink ones I can do as the 
>> parts show up. I ordered a new lock cylinder, too, as the keys I have are 
>> both pretty worn. Might as well replace the lock cylinder and get a new key 
>> out of the deal since I would order a new key anyway.
>> 
>> I’ll drive it with the snow tires as they’re literally new. No need to drop 
>> serious coin for new skins when these will do the job, they’ll just wear out 
>> quicker. I got a new front bumper cover for under $150 shipped, so I’ll need 
>> to rattle can that along with the bumper strip, since it’s still black 
>> (should be bumper color on this model year).
>> 
>> It may take some time to get the paperwork sorted since I’ve got to do 
>> everything with the tax collector (they do all the DMV stuff in FL) through 
>> the mail. I could swap a valid plate from one of my other cars and drive it 
>> without an issue, I’m sure, but it would be nice to be legal.
>> 
>> More fun as it takes place! First parts order is probably due on Thursday, 
>> so that’s when the fun really starts!
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1995 E420

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

If you are going to have the roof repainted, you may as well have them 
do the bumper cover at the same time.


RB


On 28/04/2020 10:17 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

The $1500 1995 E420 arrived yesterday morning from Columbus OH about 9:30. No 
surprises for the most part.

I forgot how much fun these cars are. Really. The W124 has that “bank vault” 
feeling when you close the door, and the interior, while spartan, is 
comfortable yet “tight”. Engine idles smoothly, could easily pass the champagne 
glass test. Everything, I mean EVERYTHING, works on this car. If there was a 
complaint I would say that the sunroof doesn’t open all the way, but that’s 
clearly due to a need for a good greasing. Suspension is tight, there’s no 
wandering, swaying and the steering tracks straight and true.

The good:

Everything works
113,000 miles on the clock
All maintenance up to date
Nearly new (snow) tires on the car, spare set of wheels with old Michelins
Suspension rubber appears to be tight
No road or drivetrain noises
Inside of valve covers are CLEAN

The bad, or not so bad:

Paint on roof is toast. Clear coat is a crackle finish. Good part is that this 
is limited to the roof, so it would be easy to fix. Rest of the paint is good.
Driver’s seat bottom is torn
One rear headrest is split
Front bumper cover is missing under right corner. Gone.
ASR and ABS lights are on. SDS revealed a bad idle position switch, which is on 
order
Brake booster leaks internally
Both air intake hoses are toast
Broken right front sway bar bracket
Coolant reservoir level switch is bad
Trunk lid stops are gone
Fuse box lid has one hook broken off
Retainer mounts on the tops of the headlights are broken or missing
Blower motor regulator needs to be replaced, only runs on low speed
Cover for seat heater fuses is missing

So yes, it’s not perfect and there are some minor repairs needed, but the 
seller made these all known so they’re not a surprise. I’ve ordered all of the 
parts necessary for the repairs so as those trickle in I’ll be covering the 
jobs as I do them. Big ones will be the brake booster and the blower motor 
regulator. All the rest are little rinky-dink ones I can do as the parts show 
up. I ordered a new lock cylinder, too, as the keys I have are both pretty 
worn. Might as well replace the lock cylinder and get a new key out of the deal 
since I would order a new key anyway.

I’ll drive it with the snow tires as they’re literally new. No need to drop 
serious coin for new skins when these will do the job, they’ll just wear out 
quicker. I got a new front bumper cover for under $150 shipped, so I’ll need to 
rattle can that along with the bumper strip, since it’s still black (should be 
bumper color on this model year).

It may take some time to get the paperwork sorted since I’ve got to do 
everything with the tax collector (they do all the DMV stuff in FL) through the 
mail. I could swap a valid plate from one of my other cars and drive it without 
an issue, I’m sure, but it would be nice to be legal.

More fun as it takes place! First parts order is probably due on Thursday, so 
that’s when the fun really starts!

-D
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[MBZ] 1995 E420

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The $1500 1995 E420 arrived yesterday morning from Columbus OH about 9:30. No 
surprises for the most part.

I forgot how much fun these cars are. Really. The W124 has that “bank vault” 
feeling when you close the door, and the interior, while spartan, is 
comfortable yet “tight”. Engine idles smoothly, could easily pass the champagne 
glass test. Everything, I mean EVERYTHING, works on this car. If there was a 
complaint I would say that the sunroof doesn’t open all the way, but that’s 
clearly due to a need for a good greasing. Suspension is tight, there’s no 
wandering, swaying and the steering tracks straight and true.

The good:

Everything works
113,000 miles on the clock
All maintenance up to date
Nearly new (snow) tires on the car, spare set of wheels with old Michelins
Suspension rubber appears to be tight
No road or drivetrain noises
Inside of valve covers are CLEAN

The bad, or not so bad:

Paint on roof is toast. Clear coat is a crackle finish. Good part is that this 
is limited to the roof, so it would be easy to fix. Rest of the paint is good.
Driver’s seat bottom is torn
One rear headrest is split
Front bumper cover is missing under right corner. Gone.
ASR and ABS lights are on. SDS revealed a bad idle position switch, which is on 
order
Brake booster leaks internally
Both air intake hoses are toast
Broken right front sway bar bracket
Coolant reservoir level switch is bad
Trunk lid stops are gone
Fuse box lid has one hook broken off
Retainer mounts on the tops of the headlights are broken or missing
Blower motor regulator needs to be replaced, only runs on low speed
Cover for seat heater fuses is missing

So yes, it’s not perfect and there are some minor repairs needed, but the 
seller made these all known so they’re not a surprise. I’ve ordered all of the 
parts necessary for the repairs so as those trickle in I’ll be covering the 
jobs as I do them. Big ones will be the brake booster and the blower motor 
regulator. All the rest are little rinky-dink ones I can do as the parts show 
up. I ordered a new lock cylinder, too, as the keys I have are both pretty 
worn. Might as well replace the lock cylinder and get a new key out of the deal 
since I would order a new key anyway.

I’ll drive it with the snow tires as they’re literally new. No need to drop 
serious coin for new skins when these will do the job, they’ll just wear out 
quicker. I got a new front bumper cover for under $150 shipped, so I’ll need to 
rattle can that along with the bumper strip, since it’s still black (should be 
bumper color on this model year).

It may take some time to get the paperwork sorted since I’ve got to do 
everything with the tax collector (they do all the DMV stuff in FL) through the 
mail. I could swap a valid plate from one of my other cars and drive it without 
an issue, I’m sure, but it would be nice to be legal.

More fun as it takes place! First parts order is probably due on Thursday, so 
that’s when the fun really starts!

-D
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[MBZ] Could be OnT -- License plate frames

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I saw this guy will make custom license plate frames, whatever you might 
want.


https://www.ebay.com/sch/creativeplateframes/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=

I ordered this and he made it up for me 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/264712631590  I think I'm going to put it on 
the SL600


It could be kinda fun to make up various Benz plates.  He prints up the 
text/graphic stuff on vinyl then inserts it into the plate so it can be 
very custom.


Nice guy, very responsive and $11 is not a bad price for a hack

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Re: [MBZ] Another Project?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yes, yesterday morning about 9:30 am. Not bad considering I bought it from the 
guy in Columbus, OH on Friday afternoon.

I’ll post some details later today.

-D

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 10:33 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Did the car already get delivered?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 9:25 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Nope. Got my project, the E420. And it’s a pretty simple one, thank 
>> goodness. The car is so clean and well maintained that I’ve had little to 
>> nothing to come up with to do on it. It does need some repairs, like a brake 
>> booster and a idle position switch (on the accelerator linkage for ASR) but 
>> otherwise it’s pretty tight.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 4:37 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The next project in the que for Dan?
>>> 
>>> https://m.facebook.com/groups/1910132722577751 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Another Project?

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Did the car already get delivered?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 9:25 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Nope. Got my project, the E420. And it’s a pretty simple one, thank 
> goodness. The car is so clean and well maintained that I’ve had little to 
> nothing to come up with to do on it. It does need some repairs, like a brake 
> booster and a idle position switch (on the accelerator linkage for ASR) but 
> otherwise it’s pretty tight.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 4:37 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The next project in the que for Dan?
>> 
>> https://m.facebook.com/groups/1910132722577751 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Another Project?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Nope. Got my project, the E420. And it’s a pretty simple one, thank goodness. 
The car is so clean and well maintained that I’ve had little to nothing to come 
up with to do on it. It does need some repairs, like a brake booster and a idle 
position switch (on the accelerator linkage for ASR) but otherwise it’s pretty 
tight.

-D

> On Apr 28, 2020, at 4:37 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The next project in the que for Dan?
> 
> https://m.facebook.com/groups/1910132722577751 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Floyd Needs This

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I wonder if I know this guy, or know of him.  I vaguely recall seeing 
this car around somewhere, sometime.


The kid a coupla doors down from us when I was maybe 12 or so had one, a 
total turd he bought for a coupla $hundred if I recall. Rusty, beat up, 
no top, seats almost non-existent, 4 mismatched bald tires, but it would 
more or less run.  Rode in it a coupla times, it was lots of fun, about 
the size of a go-kart.  I could fit in it when I was 12. mostly.  One 
day I was riding my bike by it and I see the magic smoke billowing out 
from under the hood (bonnet).  I run up to the house and pound on the 
door, tell him his car is on fire, he comes running out and pops open 
the hood and starts pulling wires out.  Some wires shorted out or 
something, and insulation was burning off.  Total rats nest of bodged-up 
wiring.  He spent the next coupla days rewiring it with whatever random 
wire he could find to get it to run and then I think he sold it right 
away and got something else.  I think these things are kinda fun but 
were pretty much turds at birth.


--FT

On 4/28/20 8:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

And it’s already in his neighborhood, too!

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1961-austin-healey-bug-eye-sprite-14/?utm_source=dm_medium=email_campaign=2020-04-28
 


I love bug-eyed Sprites. They look happy.

-D

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[MBZ] Floyd Needs This

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

And it’s already in his neighborhood, too!

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1961-austin-healey-bug-eye-sprite-14/?utm_source=dm_medium=email_campaign=2020-04-28
 


I love bug-eyed Sprites. They look happy.

-D

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