Re: [MBZ] Opinions needed on flooring

[Clay via Mercedes]

I put the bathroom floor heaters in the remodel to the seattle house.  SWMBA 
loathed cold floors so the things were on for her comfort the first few years.  
I found a few cold spots and thought the things gobbled heating dollars.  
Probably did not, but I had no issue with a good cool floor after a hot shower. 
 Then again, I sleep with windows open year round when in residence.

AK house has no heated floors and the furnace runs year round. Even with the 
windows open, as the place is a musty rank smelling place.  Maybe winter lack 
of relative humidity will resolve that.


clay 

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> On Aug 14, 2020, at 12:37 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Our bathroom in the “Momolith” (massive 4,000 SF house in Indianapolis we 
> owned) had heated tile floors in the bathroom. Resistance elements laid on 
> the floor decking before the tile was put down, I believe. At first I was 
> reluctant to use them, as I figured they would suck electricity. After I did 
> some research I found that they were very low wattage and heated very slowly. 
> The whole idea was to have them turn on early in the morning, heat the tile, 
> then turn off. The thermal mass of the tile would stay warm for some time 
> after.
> 
> They had a little controller on the wall with the time clock setup, like a 
> lighting controller. I would set them to come on at 2:00 am and turn off at 
> 5:00 am. The bathroom floor would be nice and toasty well into the morning 
> hours, making getting out of bed and ready for work in the morning in the 
> winter months quite nice.
> 
> If I lived in a climate like that I would definitely consider this setup.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2020, at 10:12 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Our house has original red oak from 1938 when it was built. The people we 
>> hired to refinish it when we pulled up the carpet called them "narrow 
>> boards" which was something I hadn't heard before.
>> I really like having hardwood floors, I also like having a woodstove in the 
>> basement so the floors are warm in the winter time.
>> -Curt
>> 
>>   On Friday, August 14, 2020, 7:40:22 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:  
>> 
>> Or maple or any other hardwood. Or if access to reclaimed old growth pine or 
>> fir which are very hard. 
>> Basically wood or stone or porcelain tile are the only materials that I’d 
>> ever use on a floor. Carpet in very few exceptions. Everything else is pure 
>> trash.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> All things considered, I would do solid oak floors (with the exception of 
>>> the bathroom and laundry room of course.) I used to do solid oak flooring 
>>> as a side gig many, many years ago. I knew a guy who did the finishing and 
>>> we teamed up to do floors as a side gig after work and on weekends. T oak 
>>> floors were very common in central Indiana at the time, so we had no 
>>> problem getting work. We might do 6-8 homes a year, not a lot, because it 
>>> was more fun and a way to earn some spending money without running a full 
>>> blown business.
>>> 
>>> Solid oak floors are pretty easy to put down as long as the substrate 
>>> they’re going on is good. That’s half the work. With a good substrate 
>>> laying down  oak T can go pretty fast and isn’t terribly difficult to do, 
>>> especially with an air nailer. It’s the finish work that takes time.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 It still has to be specifically waterproof, Pergo or not. Maybe all
 Pergo is waterproof these days. Back in about 1998 I had a continuous
 kitchen/living room/entryway floor done in Pergo. Professionally
 installed, glued seams, etc.
 
 It still got permanently swollen on seams where water was accidentally
 allowed to stand. Not talking about a flood, just spills. It happens,
 don't think it won't, especially in kitchens and entryways. I wasn't
 impressed.
 
 If I were to install laminate again, I would only install 100%
 guaranteed waterproof laminate, regardess of where in the house it is
 going.
 
 One other downside of all tile and laminate floors is the house will be
 noisy. In addition to dirt and pet stains, carpet absorbs a lot of
 sound.
 
 
 Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
 
> If I was doing laminate, and I have before, I would only use Pergo. 
> Everything else is junk. Yes, it’s expensive, but the old adage of “You 
> get what you pay for” definitely rings true with this stuff.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Aug 10, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Real actual Pergo brand laminate flooring is amazing. We looked at a 
>> house where the pipes had frozen and leaked. The whole house stank, the 
>> ceiling fans were drooping 

Re: [MBZ] W116 windshield glass

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Call them. Could it be,repaired?

Dwight Giles Jr.
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On Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 10:15 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> Driving the 300SD tonight, took a rock in the windshield and now I have
> the typical bullseye with about a 10 inch crack running vertically right
> through the center driver's side.
>
> Is this something that a place like Safelite would still be able to get
> glass for? Or am I looking at some kind of NOS search or used glass?
>
> Allan
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[MBZ] W116 windshield glass

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Driving the 300SD tonight, took a rock in the windshield and now I have
the typical bullseye with about a 10 inch crack running vertically right
through the center driver's side.

Is this something that a place like Safelite would still be able to get
glass for? Or am I looking at some kind of NOS search or used glass?

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Turdish 99 E320

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I would be in on that
 There used to be a group that sold cars in NY as "southern rust free
beauties".  I once had a car flip business to pay my tuition at Penn State

Dwight Giles Jr.
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On Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 3:59 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> We should set up a business, I could find cheap southern cars with no
> rust, buy them cheap and move them up there then sell them to the
> yankees and make a tidy profit
>
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>
> On 8/14/20 2:20 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> >   I think people are generally just nervous to be selling stuff too,
> theres not a whole lot to buy.
> > I'd been thinking about getting an old tractor to play with, no many
> options and whats out there is priced high. Last year the market had fallen
> off dramatically, this year its back and more. Not sure if anything is
> actually selling but asking prices have sure gone up.
> > -Curt
> >
> >  On Friday, August 14, 2020, 12:46:10 PM EDT, Rick Knoble via
> Mercedes  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Curt writes:
> >
> >
> >> Around here theres not much running and driving for less than $2,000
> >
> > No doubt. I expected the used car market to tank after the extended
> economic disruption, but in fact the exact opposite has happened. I suspect
> when you lay off half of the working population, and then give a third of
> those folks more money to stay home than work, that drives prices up.
> >
>
> > Rick
> > P.S. I work for a major shipper. It's been three days before Christmas
> every day, six days a week since March. It's getting old.
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Re: [MBZ] Another young addict

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Great news

Dwight Giles Jr.
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On Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 4:16 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I was at Harbor Freight and as I was leaving I saw a black SEC drive
> in.  Got to my car and it was parked next to me, young kid in it, so I
> talked to him.  It was a 500SEC, kinda rough, paint was gone, but the
> kid said it was his dad's and the dad gave it to him.  He was gradually
> working on fixing it up and was hoping to have it looking good before he
> went to college next year, so I guessed the kid to be 16-17.  Really
> nice kid, we chatted for a few minutes.  He was clearly establishing an
> addiction...
>
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Re: [MBZ] Low Bidding on 220S Cabriolet

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

IMHO colors,are awful.

Dwight Giles Jr.
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On Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 5:15 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Why does that paint scheme make me think of white coves on a 1953-1962
> Corvette?
>
> $86k and counting...
>
> The 240D went for $15,500.
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1980-mercedes-benz-240d-7/
>
> On Fri, August 14, 2020 4:45 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > These seem to bring big bucks when they come on the market. Bidding seems
> > pretty listless on this one for some reason, even though it’s not one
> > of the best examples:
> >
> > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1958-mercedes-benz-220s-cabriolet-4/
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Re: [MBZ] 1995 Mercedes SL600 SL 600 - $28,200 (Yulee)

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That's more like it...  Still, no chance at that price.

On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 8:36 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
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> My bad... I confused it with another listing... 51,000 miles stated...
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 5:34 PM G Mann  wrote:
>
> > Andrew... the text in the ad, I believe, says 300,000 miles.. about..
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 12:41 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I wonder what the mileage is on it.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 10:45 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I need to get mine buffed up a bit!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/fernandina-beach-1995-mercedes-sl600-sl/7175618914.html
> >> >
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Re: [MBZ] Low Bidding on 220S Cabriolet

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Dimitri when are you going to auction your 113 and retire on the proceeds?

On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 7:02 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> Lot of detail stuff was questionable, like some broken knobs,
> nonfunctional choke, etc. Easy fixes that tell me someone was being lazy.
>
> It did look nice, however. I just think there were a number of things that
> could have been addressed before the sale that would have made it nicer.
>
> -D
>
> > On Aug 14, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Dimitri Seretakis 
> wrote:
> >
> > “Not one of best examples”? Looks pretty good to me!
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Aug 14, 2020, at 4:46 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> These seem to bring big bucks when they come on the market. Bidding
> seems pretty listless on this one for some reason, even though it’s not one
> of the best examples:
> >>
> >>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1958-mercedes-benz-220s-cabriolet-4/?utm_source=dm_medium=email_campaign=2020-08-14
> <
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1958-mercedes-benz-220s-cabriolet-4/?utm_source=dm_medium=email_campaign=2020-08-14
> >
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] 1995 Mercedes SL600 SL 600 - $28,200 (Yulee)

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My bad... I confused it with another listing... 51,000 miles stated...

On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 5:34 PM G Mann  wrote:

> Andrew... the text in the ad, I believe, says 300,000 miles.. about..
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 12:41 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> I wonder what the mileage is on it.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 10:45 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I need to get mine buffed up a bit!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/fernandina-beach-1995-mercedes-sl600-sl/7175618914.html
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] 1995 Mercedes SL600 SL 600 - $28,200 (Yulee)

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Andrew... the text in the ad, I believe, says 300,000 miles.. about..

On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 12:41 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> I wonder what the mileage is on it.
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 10:45 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I need to get mine buffed up a bit!
> >
> >
> >
> https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/fernandina-beach-1995-mercedes-sl600-sl/7175618914.html
> >
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Re: [MBZ] I found a leak ...

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 07:20:49 -0400 Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> 
> Oops, I forgot it was a gasser, not OM602.
> Looks like that costs more, but Rock, FCP, and Autohaus are still good
> places to look.
> 
> https://www.autohausaz.com/pn/1245009003

It is an OM602. 1993 E300D/2.5 Turbo.


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Re: [MBZ] Low Bidding on 220S Cabriolet

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Lot of detail stuff was questionable, like some broken knobs, nonfunctional 
choke, etc. Easy fixes that tell me someone was being lazy.

It did look nice, however. I just think there were a number of things that 
could have been addressed before the sale that would have made it nicer.

-D

> On Aug 14, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> 
> “Not one of best examples”? Looks pretty good to me!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2020, at 4:46 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> These seem to bring big bucks when they come on the market. Bidding seems 
>> pretty listless on this one for some reason, even though it’s not one of the 
>> best examples:
>> 
>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1958-mercedes-benz-220s-cabriolet-4/?utm_source=dm_medium=email_campaign=2020-08-14
>>  
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Low Bidding on 220S Cabriolet

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

“Not one of best examples”? Looks pretty good to me!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 14, 2020, at 4:46 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> These seem to bring big bucks when they come on the market. Bidding seems 
> pretty listless on this one for some reason, even though it’s not one of the 
> best examples:
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1958-mercedes-benz-220s-cabriolet-4/?utm_source=dm_medium=email_campaign=2020-08-14
>  
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Re: [MBZ] Low Bidding on 220S Cabriolet

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On Fri, August 14, 2020 5:30 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> Should have sold for over $100k. Not bad, though. I’ll bet the seller
> bit their nails off the last few hours though. That’s a big gap from
> $57k to $95k in just 3-4 hours.

When it was 70s and 80, comments kept saying if it doesn't get closer to
six digits it'll be RNM.

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Re: [MBZ] Low Bidding on 220S Cabriolet

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Should have sold for over $100k. Not bad, though. I’ll bet the seller bit their 
nails off the last few hours though. That’s a big gap from $57k to $95k in just 
3-4 hours.

-D

> On Aug 14, 2020, at 5:26 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, August 14, 2020 5:23 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Must have bumped up recently - it was at $57k when I saw it a little
>> while ago.
>> 
>> Friday is a crappy day for an auction.
> 
> Didn't get serious until 15-20 minutes of last minute bids.
> 
> Sold For $95,799 On 8/14/20
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Re: [MBZ] Low Bidding on 220S Cabriolet

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On Fri, August 14, 2020 5:23 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> Must have bumped up recently - it was at $57k when I saw it a little
> while ago.
>
> Friday is a crappy day for an auction.

Didn't get serious until 15-20 minutes of last minute bids.

Sold For $95,799 On 8/14/20

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Re: [MBZ] Low Bidding on 220S Cabriolet

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Must have bumped up recently - it was at $57k when I saw it a little while ago.

Friday is a crappy day for an auction.

-D

> On Aug 14, 2020, at 5:14 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
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> 
> Why does that paint scheme make me think of white coves on a 1953-1962
> Corvette?
> 
> $86k and counting...
> 
> The 240D went for $15,500.
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1980-mercedes-benz-240d-7/
> 
> On Fri, August 14, 2020 4:45 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> These seem to bring big bucks when they come on the market. Bidding seems
>> pretty listless on this one for some reason, even though it’s not one
>> of the best examples:
>> 
>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1958-mercedes-benz-220s-cabriolet-4/
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Opinions needed on flooring

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On Fri, August 14, 2020 4:37 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> Our bathroom in the “Momolith” (massive 4,000 SF house in
> Indianapolis we owned) had heated tile floors in the bathroom. Resistance
> elements laid on the floor decking before the tile was put down, I
> believe.

I believe in radiant floor heat, propane/gas boiler and lots of PEX hung
on the bottom of the subfloor works nicely.

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Re: [MBZ] Low Bidding on 220S Cabriolet

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Why does that paint scheme make me think of white coves on a 1953-1962
Corvette?

$86k and counting...

The 240D went for $15,500.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1980-mercedes-benz-240d-7/

On Fri, August 14, 2020 4:45 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> These seem to bring big bucks when they come on the market. Bidding seems
> pretty listless on this one for some reason, even though it’s not one
> of the best examples:
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1958-mercedes-benz-220s-cabriolet-4/


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[MBZ] Low Bidding on 220S Cabriolet

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

These seem to bring big bucks when they come on the market. Bidding seems 
pretty listless on this one for some reason, even though it’s not one of the 
best examples:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1958-mercedes-benz-220s-cabriolet-4/?utm_source=dm_medium=email_campaign=2020-08-14
 


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Re: [MBZ] Opinions needed on flooring

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Our bathroom in the “Momolith” (massive 4,000 SF house in Indianapolis we 
owned) had heated tile floors in the bathroom. Resistance elements laid on the 
floor decking before the tile was put down, I believe. At first I was reluctant 
to use them, as I figured they would suck electricity. After I did some 
research I found that they were very low wattage and heated very slowly. The 
whole idea was to have them turn on early in the morning, heat the tile, then 
turn off. The thermal mass of the tile would stay warm for some time after.

They had a little controller on the wall with the time clock setup, like a 
lighting controller. I would set them to come on at 2:00 am and turn off at 
5:00 am. The bathroom floor would be nice and toasty well into the morning 
hours, making getting out of bed and ready for work in the morning in the 
winter months quite nice.

If I lived in a climate like that I would definitely consider this setup.

-D

> On Aug 14, 2020, at 10:12 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Our house has original red oak from 1938 when it was built. The people we 
> hired to refinish it when we pulled up the carpet called them "narrow boards" 
> which was something I hadn't heard before.
> I really like having hardwood floors, I also like having a woodstove in the 
> basement so the floors are warm in the winter time.
> -Curt
> 
>On Friday, August 14, 2020, 7:40:22 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Or maple or any other hardwood. Or if access to reclaimed old growth pine or 
> fir which are very hard. 
> Basically wood or stone or porcelain tile are the only materials that I’d 
> ever use on a floor. Carpet in very few exceptions. Everything else is pure 
> trash.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> All things considered, I would do solid oak floors (with the exception of 
>> the bathroom and laundry room of course.) I used to do solid oak flooring as 
>> a side gig many, many years ago. I knew a guy who did the finishing and we 
>> teamed up to do floors as a side gig after work and on weekends. T oak 
>> floors were very common in central Indiana at the time, so we had no problem 
>> getting work. We might do 6-8 homes a year, not a lot, because it was more 
>> fun and a way to earn some spending money without running a full blown 
>> business.
>> 
>> Solid oak floors are pretty easy to put down as long as the substrate 
>> they’re going on is good. That’s half the work. With a good substrate laying 
>> down  oak T can go pretty fast and isn’t terribly difficult to do, 
>> especially with an air nailer. It’s the finish work that takes time.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It still has to be specifically waterproof, Pergo or not. Maybe all
>>> Pergo is waterproof these days. Back in about 1998 I had a continuous
>>> kitchen/living room/entryway floor done in Pergo. Professionally
>>> installed, glued seams, etc.
>>> 
>>> It still got permanently swollen on seams where water was accidentally
>>> allowed to stand. Not talking about a flood, just spills. It happens,
>>> don't think it won't, especially in kitchens and entryways. I wasn't
>>> impressed.
>>> 
>>> If I were to install laminate again, I would only install 100%
>>> guaranteed waterproof laminate, regardess of where in the house it is
>>> going.
>>> 
>>> One other downside of all tile and laminate floors is the house will be
>>> noisy. In addition to dirt and pet stains, carpet absorbs a lot of
>>> sound.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
>>> 
 If I was doing laminate, and I have before, I would only use Pergo. 
 Everything else is junk. Yes, it’s expensive, but the old adage of “You 
 get what you pay for” definitely rings true with this stuff.
 
 -D
 
> On Aug 10, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Real actual Pergo brand laminate flooring is amazing. We looked at a 
> house where the pipes had frozen and leaked. The whole house stank, the 
> ceiling fans were drooping flowers, the paint was coming off the walls. 
> The Pergo flooring was absolutely perfect. It hadn't buckled or 
> de-laminated, there was no sign of it having any problem despite a very 
> high humidity. If I were going to do laminate floors, for a house I was 
> going to live in, I'd pay the premium for it every time.
> -Curt
> 
>   On Monday, August 10, 2020, 12:24:37 PM EDT, fmiser via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
>> Kaleb wrote:
> 
>> She wants to do the pergo thru the whole house that is currently
>> carpeted and in the utility and bathroom. 
> 
> Pergo isn't waterproof - right?
> 
> Using that in the bathroom and by the washing machine is as silly
> as using carpet in those places.  There _will_ be water on the
> floor!
> 
>>> 
>>> 

[MBZ] Another young addict

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I was at Harbor Freight and as I was leaving I saw a black SEC drive 
in.  Got to my car and it was parked next to me, young kid in it, so I 
talked to him.  It was a 500SEC, kinda rough, paint was gone, but the 
kid said it was his dad's and the dad gave it to him.  He was gradually 
working on fixing it up and was hoping to have it looking good before he 
went to college next year, so I guessed the kid to be 16-17.  Really 
nice kid, we chatted for a few minutes.  He was clearly establishing an 
addiction...


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Re: [MBZ] A mess of diesels, some crackish, most look decent

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 10:28:40 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> https://winstonsalem.craigslist.org/cto/d/winston-salem-1971-mercedes-220d/7177062226.html

And it's green!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Turdish 99 E320

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

We should set up a business, I could find cheap southern cars with no 
rust, buy them cheap and move them up there then sell them to the 
yankees and make a tidy profit


--FT

On 8/14/20 2:20 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

  I think people are generally just nervous to be selling stuff too, theres not 
a whole lot to buy.
I'd been thinking about getting an old tractor to play with, no many options 
and whats out there is priced high. Last year the market had fallen off 
dramatically, this year its back and more. Not sure if anything is actually 
selling but asking prices have sure gone up.
-Curt

 On Friday, August 14, 2020, 12:46:10 PM EDT, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 wrote:
  
  
Curt writes:




Around here theres not much running and driving for less than $2,000


No doubt. I expected the used car market to tank after the extended economic 
disruption, but in fact the exact opposite has happened. I suspect when you lay 
off half of the working population, and then give a third of those folks more 
money to stay home than work, that drives prices up.
   
Rick

P.S. I work for a major shipper. It's been three days before Christmas every 
day, six days a week since March. It's getting old.
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Re: [MBZ] 1995 Mercedes SL600 SL 600 - $28,200 (Yulee)

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I wonder what the mileage is on it.

On Fri, Aug 14, 2020, 10:45 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I need to get mine buffed up a bit!
>
>
> https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/fernandina-beach-1995-mercedes-sl600-sl/7175618914.html
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Re: [MBZ] I found another leak

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On Fri, August 14, 2020 1:57 pm, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>
>
> The thing with Rock Auto is you have to watch the shipping. They ship
> parts from many different warehouses and if you order two parts and they
> ship from different places you will pay separate shipping on each part. It
> can add up.
>

And it doesn't always make sense.
One time I was ordering clearance stuff, and found that part 1 and part 2
shipped from warehouse A. Then I added part 3 and suddenly had shipments
from warehouses A B and C, the system wouldn't ship 1&2 from the same
warehouse any more.

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Re: [MBZ] Turdish 99 E320

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I think people are generally just nervous to be selling stuff too, theres not 
a whole lot to buy.
I'd been thinking about getting an old tractor to play with, no many options 
and whats out there is priced high. Last year the market had fallen off 
dramatically, this year its back and more. Not sure if anything is actually 
selling but asking prices have sure gone up.
-Curt

On Friday, August 14, 2020, 12:46:10 PM EDT, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 
Curt writes:


>Around here theres not much running and driving for less than $2,000


No doubt. I expected the used car market to tank after the extended economic 
disruption, but in fact the exact opposite has happened. I suspect when you lay 
off half of the working population, and then give a third of those folks more 
money to stay home than work, that drives prices up. 
                                                                                
                                                      
Rick
P.S. I work for a major shipper. It's been three days before Christmas every 
day, six days a week since March. It's getting old. 
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Re: [MBZ] I found another leak

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I've found FCP prices generally good, but not always the lowest. I have
been happy with everything I've bought from them, however.

The thing with Rock Auto is you have to watch the shipping. They ship
parts from many different warehouses and if you order two parts and they
ship from different places you will pay separate shipping on each
part. It can add up.

Allan

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:

> FCP does not stock every part but their prices are generally very low for
> what they do carry.
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 7:10 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> FCP looks like a better deal than Rock.
>> https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-radiator-300d-1245009803a
>>

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Re: [MBZ] Turdish 99 E320

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

 
Curt writes:


>Around here theres not much running and driving for less than $2,000


No doubt. I expected the used car market to tank after the extended economic 
disruption, but in fact the exact opposite has happened. I suspect when you lay 
off half of the working population, and then give a third of those folks more 
money to stay home than work, that drives prices up. 

  
Rick
P.S. I work for a major shipper. It's been three days before Christmas every 
day, six days a week since March. It's getting old. 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Novel approach to beating the pandemic.

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

And in typical fashion, the fake news media took the 100% positive test results 
to loudly proclaim the sky is falling and the end is near.  These deceptive 
news reports are very sensational and drive up ratings with certain segments 
and thus increase revenue from ad sales, while simultaneously a vast majority 
of Americans surveyed report that they don't trust the media.  Mark Twain was 
right: if you don't read the papers you are uninformed, if you do read the 
papers you are misinformed...
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Aug 14, 2020 10:11:13 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes :

> It would appear that one possible reason for Florida test centers reporting 
> 100% positive tests is that they only thought they had to report positive 
> tests. Realistically most people, especially a couple months ago, only cared 
> about the number of positive tests each day. Of course that doesn't give you 
> a good impression of whats going on but most people are idiots...
> -Curt
> 
> On Friday, August 14, 2020, 2:11:35 AM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Around here they are saying that false negatives are a thing, but false
> positives are almost zero. That's very convenient for the lockdown
> enthusiasts. Yet we have heard about the testing centers in Florida that
> reported 100% positive tests.
> 
> Like so much about this situation, who knows what to believe.
> 
> I fall back on common sense. Wash your hands. Stay home if you're
> sick. Eat well, stay fit. Get some sun and fresh air. All the rest of it
> seems to be made up as we go along.
> 
> Allan
> 
> Clay via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> Small cruise ship had to turn around because of false positives.  Alaska is 
>> seeing a large number of inaccurate test results.  Science is not up to the 
>> standards required to effectively handle the plague.
>> 
>> https://www.ktoo.org/2020/08/12/uncruise-says-wilderness-adventurer-did-not-have-covid-19-on-board-after-all/
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.
>> 
>>> On Aug 13, 2020, at 7:41 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It is almost all false negatives with the current PCR nasopharyngeal seab,
>>> die to technique. False positives are rare.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2020, 9:43 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Neither appeals particularly, with false negative you expose others, with
 false positive you're stuck in quarantine for 2 weeks without the benefit
 of at least hopefully getting anti-bodies.
 -Curt
 
 On Wednesday, August 12, 2020, 12:37:13 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel <
 astrasfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
 
 I've booked my flight to Moscow already.NOT.
 I wonder if the inaccuracy of the cheap daily means false ++ or false --
 results. It makes a huge difference.
 
 On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 12:30 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Its not the stupidest idea I've seen for sure but IIRC the cheap/fast
 tests right now are only like 80% accurate. I guess its better than nothing
 but not by a lot. Even if it were, say $1/test that would be a big cost for
 a school with hundreds of students to test on a daily basis.
 I'm nervous of Russia's release of a vaccine. It'll be interesting to see
 what happens. I suspect China is right behind and will be releasing
 something in a month or two.
 
 -Curt
 
 On Wednesday, August 12, 2020, 12:22:23 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via
 Mercedes  wrote:
 
 Cheap, frequent COVID tests could be ‘akin to vaccine,’ professor says.
 
 "Harvard epidemiologist and expert in disease testing is calling for a
 shift in strategy toward a cheap, daily, do-it-yourself test that he says
 can be as effective as a vaccine at interrupting coronavirus transmission —
 and is currently the only viable option for a quick return to an
 approximation of normal life.
 
 “These are our hope,” said Michal Mina
 , assistant professor
 of epidemiology at Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
  and Brigham and Women’s Hospital
 . “We don’t have anything tomorrow,
 other
 than shutting down the economy and keeping schools closed.”
 
 As the pandemic’s health, economic, and educational toll mounts, Mina, a
 member of the Harvard Chan School’s Center for Communicable Disease
 Dynamics,  said the paper-strip tests have
 already been developed and their shotgun approach to testing — cheap and
 widespread — provides a way back to the workplace, classroom, and other
 venues."
 
 https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/08/cheap-daily-covid-tests-could-be-akin-to-vaccine/?utm_source=SilverpopMailing_medium=email_campaign=Daily%20Gazette%2020200812%20(1)
> 
> 

Re: [MBZ] Turdish 99 E320

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Mine is much nicer, I should get you to post it up there for like $2500 
and see if there are any bites


--FT

On 8/14/20 10:33 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:

If it actually runs and drives its hard to argue with that price.
Around here theres not much running and driving for less than $2,000

-Curt

On Friday, August 14, 2020, 10:31:07 AM EDT, Floyd Thursby via 
Mercedes  wrote:



but a nice color

https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/jacksonville-1999-mercedes-e320/7177129787.html

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[MBZ] 1995 Mercedes SL600 SL 600 - $28,200 (Yulee)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I need to get mine buffed up a bit!

https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/fernandina-beach-1995-mercedes-sl600-sl/7175618914.html

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[MBZ] Custom Orange Exterior,Upgraded Black Rims

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

It actually doesn't look half bad for a Cheap class.  I'd go cruising in 
that with my 12s thumpin


https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/ctd/d/mercedes-benz-c300-sport-sedan-upgraded/7177166977.html

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[MBZ] Over the next 5 years, he would spend $33,664.10

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

crack dealer owner?

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/ctd/d/hendersonville-33k-refurb-1990-mercedes/7176683657.html

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Re: [MBZ] Turdish 99 E320

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 If it actually runs and drives its hard to argue with that price.Around here 
theres not much running and driving for less than $2,000
-Curt

On Friday, August 14, 2020, 10:31:07 AM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 but a nice color

https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/jacksonville-1999-mercedes-e320/7177129787.html

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[MBZ] Turdish 99 E320

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

but a nice color

https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/jacksonville-1999-mercedes-e320/7177129787.html

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[MBZ] A mess of diesels, some crackish, most look decent

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/ctd/d/matthews-1998-mercedes-benz-e300-diesel/7177170522.html

https://winstonsalem.craigslist.org/cto/d/winston-salem-1971-mercedes-220d/7177062226.html

https://hickory.craigslist.org/cto/d/lenoir-1997-mercedes-e300-diesel/7176860453.html

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/chapel-hill-mercedes-benz-300d-turbo/7176790094.html

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/charlotte-2005-mercedes-e320-diesel/7176361913.html

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Re: [MBZ] Opinions needed on flooring

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Our house has original red oak from 1938 when it was built. The people we 
hired to refinish it when we pulled up the carpet called them "narrow boards" 
which was something I hadn't heard before.
I really like having hardwood floors, I also like having a woodstove in the 
basement so the floors are warm in the winter time.
-Curt

On Friday, August 14, 2020, 7:40:22 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Or maple or any other hardwood. Or if access to reclaimed old growth pine or 
fir which are very hard. 
Basically wood or stone or porcelain tile are the only materials that I’d ever 
use on a floor. Carpet in very few exceptions. Everything else is pure trash.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> All things considered, I would do solid oak floors (with the exception of 
> the bathroom and laundry room of course.) I used to do solid oak flooring as 
> a side gig many, many years ago. I knew a guy who did the finishing and we 
> teamed up to do floors as a side gig after work and on weekends. T oak 
> floors were very common in central Indiana at the time, so we had no problem 
> getting work. We might do 6-8 homes a year, not a lot, because it was more 
> fun and a way to earn some spending money without running a full blown 
> business.
> 
> Solid oak floors are pretty easy to put down as long as the substrate they’re 
> going on is good. That’s half the work. With a good substrate laying down  
> oak T can go pretty fast and isn’t terribly difficult to do, especially 
> with an air nailer. It’s the finish work that takes time.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It still has to be specifically waterproof, Pergo or not. Maybe all
>> Pergo is waterproof these days. Back in about 1998 I had a continuous
>> kitchen/living room/entryway floor done in Pergo. Professionally
>> installed, glued seams, etc.
>> 
>> It still got permanently swollen on seams where water was accidentally
>> allowed to stand. Not talking about a flood, just spills. It happens,
>> don't think it won't, especially in kitchens and entryways. I wasn't
>> impressed.
>> 
>> If I were to install laminate again, I would only install 100%
>> guaranteed waterproof laminate, regardess of where in the house it is
>> going.
>> 
>> One other downside of all tile and laminate floors is the house will be
>> noisy. In addition to dirt and pet stains, carpet absorbs a lot of
>> sound.
>> 
>> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
>> 
>>> If I was doing laminate, and I have before, I would only use Pergo. 
>>> Everything else is junk. Yes, it’s expensive, but the old adage of “You get 
>>> what you pay for” definitely rings true with this stuff.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Aug 10, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Real actual Pergo brand laminate flooring is amazing. We looked at a house 
 where the pipes had frozen and leaked. The whole house stank, the ceiling 
 fans were drooping flowers, the paint was coming off the walls. The Pergo 
 flooring was absolutely perfect. It hadn't buckled or de-laminated, there 
 was no sign of it having any problem despite a very high humidity. If I 
 were going to do laminate floors, for a house I was going to live in, I'd 
 pay the premium for it every time.
 -Curt
 
  On Monday, August 10, 2020, 12:24:37 PM EDT, fmiser via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
> Kaleb wrote:
 
> She wants to do the pergo thru the whole house that is currently
> carpeted and in the utility and bathroom. 
 
 Pergo isn't waterproof - right?
 
 Using that in the bathroom and by the washing machine is as silly
 as using carpet in those places.  There _will_ be water on the
 floor!
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Novel approach to beating the pandemic.

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 It would appear that one possible reason for Florida test centers reporting 
100% positive tests is that they only thought they had to report positive 
tests. Realistically most people, especially a couple months ago, only cared 
about the number of positive tests each day. Of course that doesn't give you a 
good impression of whats going on but most people are idiots...
-Curt

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 wrote:  
 
 Around here they are saying that false negatives are a thing, but false
positives are almost zero. That's very convenient for the lockdown
enthusiasts. Yet we have heard about the testing centers in Florida that
reported 100% positive tests.

Like so much about this situation, who knows what to believe.

I fall back on common sense. Wash your hands. Stay home if you're
sick. Eat well, stay fit. Get some sun and fresh air. All the rest of it
seems to be made up as we go along.

Allan

Clay via Mercedes  writes:

> Small cruise ship had to turn around because of false positives.  Alaska is 
> seeing a large number of inaccurate test results.  Science is not up to the 
> standards required to effectively handle the plague.
>
> https://www.ktoo.org/2020/08/12/uncruise-says-wilderness-adventurer-did-not-have-covid-19-on-board-after-all/
>
> clay 
>
> I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.
>
>
>
>> On Aug 13, 2020, at 7:41 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It is almost all false negatives with the current PCR nasopharyngeal seab,
>> die to technique. False positives are rare.
>> 
>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2020, 9:43 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Neither appeals particularly, with false negative you expose others, with
>>> false positive you're stuck in quarantine for 2 weeks without the benefit
>>> of at least hopefully getting anti-bodies.
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>>    On Wednesday, August 12, 2020, 12:37:13 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel <
>>> astrasfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've booked my flight to Moscow already.NOT.
>>> I wonder if the inaccuracy of the cheap daily means false ++ or false --
>>> results. It makes a huge difference.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 12:30 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Its not the stupidest idea I've seen for sure but IIRC the cheap/fast
>>> tests right now are only like 80% accurate. I guess its better than nothing
>>> but not by a lot. Even if it were, say $1/test that would be a big cost for
>>> a school with hundreds of students to test on a daily basis.
>>> I'm nervous of Russia's release of a vaccine. It'll be interesting to see
>>> what happens. I suspect China is right behind and will be releasing
>>> something in a month or two.
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>>    On Wednesday, August 12, 2020, 12:22:23 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via
>>> Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Cheap, frequent COVID tests could be ‘akin to vaccine,’ professor says.
>>> 
>>> "Harvard epidemiologist and expert in disease testing is calling for a
>>> shift in strategy toward a cheap, daily, do-it-yourself test that he says
>>> can be as effective as a vaccine at interrupting coronavirus transmission —
>>> and is currently the only viable option for a quick return to an
>>> approximation of normal life.
>>> 
>>> “These are our hope,” said Michal Mina
>>> , assistant professor
>>> of epidemiology at Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
>>>  and Brigham and Women’s Hospital
>>> . “We don’t have anything tomorrow,
>>> other
>>> than shutting down the economy and keeping schools closed.”
>>> 
>>> As the pandemic’s health, economic, and educational toll mounts, Mina, a
>>> member of the Harvard Chan School’s Center for Communicable Disease
>>> Dynamics,  said the paper-strip tests have
>>> already been developed and their shotgun approach to testing — cheap and
>>> widespread — provides a way back to the workplace, classroom, and other
>>> venues."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/08/cheap-daily-covid-tests-could-be-akin-to-vaccine/?utm_source=SilverpopMailing_medium=email_campaign=Daily%20Gazette%2020200812%20(1)

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Re: [MBZ] Orient Red 1980 240D 4 speed on BAT

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I could lust for that one but not at that price.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> Very pretty color and the bidding is ramping up.  Already at $15k despite
> 11 year old tires, no sunroof, and an inoperative cruise control.
>
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[MBZ] Orient Red 1980 240D 4 speed on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Very pretty color and the bidding is ramping up.  Already at $15k despite
11 year old tires, no sunroof, and an inoperative cruise control.

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Re: [MBZ] I found another leak

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FCP does not stock every part but their prices are generally very low for
what they do carry.

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> FCP looks like a better deal than Rock.
> https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-radiator-300d-1245009803a
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Re: [MBZ] Opinions needed on flooring

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But it’s beautiful and it can last for a few hundred years if cared for. That’s 
the difference.

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> On Aug 13, 2020, at 9:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> We have Brazilian cherry flooring that is so hard that glasses and plates
> shatter when dropped on it.
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 6:26 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> My parent's kitchen area is all vinyl that looks like tile. Visually its
>> amazing, looks just like tile, if you had soft soled shoes on you probably
>> wouldn't know it wasn't tile. When you touch it its obvious.
>> Theirs is all one piece, makes cleanup a snap.
>> -Curt
>> 
>>On Thursday, August 13, 2020, 6:15:11 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, August 13, 2020 6:09 pm, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I'm probably a dinosaur but I'll go with vinyl (over ceramic tile) every
>>> time for kitchens and bathrooms.
>> 
>> I'll admit it's nice when I drop a glass or plate and it bounces instead
>> of shattering.
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Re: [MBZ] Opinions needed on flooring

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

I have zero tolerance for fake, made to look like the real thing ie, tile or 
wood materials. It’s all trash in my eyes. Sorry.

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> On Aug 13, 2020, at 6:26 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>  My parent's kitchen area is all vinyl that looks like tile. Visually its 
> amazing, looks just like tile, if you had soft soled shoes on you probably 
> wouldn't know it wasn't tile. When you touch it its obvious.
> Theirs is all one piece, makes cleanup a snap.
> -Curt
> 
>On Thursday, August 13, 2020, 6:15:11 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
>> On Thu, August 13, 2020 6:09 pm, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
>> I'm probably a dinosaur but I'll go with vinyl (over ceramic tile) every
>> time for kitchens and bathrooms.
> 
> I'll admit it's nice when I drop a glass or plate and it bounces instead
> of shattering.
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Re: [MBZ] Opinions needed on flooring

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But it’s ugly and cheap looking.

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> On Aug 13, 2020, at 6:15 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, August 13, 2020 6:09 pm, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
>> I'm probably a dinosaur but I'll go with vinyl (over ceramic tile) every
>> time for kitchens and bathrooms.
> 
> I'll admit it's nice when I drop a glass or plate and it bounces instead
> of shattering.
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Re: [MBZ] Opinions needed on flooring

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Or maple or any other hardwood. Or if access to reclaimed old growth pine or 
fir which are very hard. 
Basically wood or stone or porcelain tile are the only materials that I’d ever 
use on a floor. Carpet in very few exceptions. Everything else is pure trash.

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> On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> All things considered, I would do solid oak floors (with the exception of 
> the bathroom and laundry room of course.) I used to do solid oak flooring as 
> a side gig many, many years ago. I knew a guy who did the finishing and we 
> teamed up to do floors as a side gig after work and on weekends. T oak 
> floors were very common in central Indiana at the time, so we had no problem 
> getting work. We might do 6-8 homes a year, not a lot, because it was more 
> fun and a way to earn some spending money without running a full blown 
> business.
> 
> Solid oak floors are pretty easy to put down as long as the substrate they’re 
> going on is good. That’s half the work. With a good substrate laying down  
> oak T can go pretty fast and isn’t terribly difficult to do, especially 
> with an air nailer. It’s the finish work that takes time.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It still has to be specifically waterproof, Pergo or not. Maybe all
>> Pergo is waterproof these days. Back in about 1998 I had a continuous
>> kitchen/living room/entryway floor done in Pergo. Professionally
>> installed, glued seams, etc.
>> 
>> It still got permanently swollen on seams where water was accidentally
>> allowed to stand. Not talking about a flood, just spills. It happens,
>> don't think it won't, especially in kitchens and entryways. I wasn't
>> impressed.
>> 
>> If I were to install laminate again, I would only install 100%
>> guaranteed waterproof laminate, regardess of where in the house it is
>> going.
>> 
>> One other downside of all tile and laminate floors is the house will be
>> noisy. In addition to dirt and pet stains, carpet absorbs a lot of
>> sound.
>> 
>> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
>> 
>>> If I was doing laminate, and I have before, I would only use Pergo. 
>>> Everything else is junk. Yes, it’s expensive, but the old adage of “You get 
>>> what you pay for” definitely rings true with this stuff.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Aug 10, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Real actual Pergo brand laminate flooring is amazing. We looked at a house 
 where the pipes had frozen and leaked. The whole house stank, the ceiling 
 fans were drooping flowers, the paint was coming off the walls. The Pergo 
 flooring was absolutely perfect. It hadn't buckled or de-laminated, there 
 was no sign of it having any problem despite a very high humidity. If I 
 were going to do laminate floors, for a house I was going to live in, I'd 
 pay the premium for it every time.
 -Curt
 
  On Monday, August 10, 2020, 12:24:37 PM EDT, fmiser via Mercedes 
  wrote:  
 
> Kaleb wrote:
 
> She wants to do the pergo thru the whole house that is currently
> carpeted and in the utility and bathroom. 
 
 Pergo isn't waterproof - right?
 
 Using that in the bathroom and by the washing machine is as silly
 as using carpet in those places.  There _will_ be water on the
 floor!
 
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Re: [MBZ] I found a leak ...

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Oops, I forgot it was a gasser, not OM602.
Looks like that costs more, but Rock, FCP, and Autohaus are still good
places to look.

https://www.autohausaz.com/pn/1245009003

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Re: [MBZ] I found another leak

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

FCP looks like a better deal than Rock.
https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-radiator-300d-1245009803a

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Re: [MBZ] I found another leak

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On Thu, August 13, 2020 11:01 pm, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

> Anyone know of good deals for radiators these days?

For my W163, I bought a Hella from RockAuto for about $140. They sent me a
severely bent one, which I believe was reselling a damaged merchandise
return. The replacement was perfect. They told me to scrap the first one.

For a W124 250D, it looks like they've got Nissens for around $130 shipped.
They also have a Spectra (possibly Chinesium) for less. Valeo is out of
stock.
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/mercedes-benz

Always use a 5% coupon at Rock. Sometimes there are better ones available.
Let me know if the 10$ coupon works.
https://www.retailmenot.com/view/rockauto.com

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Novel approach to beating the pandemic.

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Around here they are saying that false negatives are a thing, but false
positives are almost zero. That's very convenient for the lockdown
enthusiasts. Yet we have heard about the testing centers in Florida that
reported 100% positive tests.

Like so much about this situation, who knows what to believe.

I fall back on common sense. Wash your hands. Stay home if you're
sick. Eat well, stay fit. Get some sun and fresh air. All the rest of it
seems to be made up as we go along.

Allan

Clay via Mercedes  writes:

> Small cruise ship had to turn around because of false positives.  Alaska is 
> seeing a large number of inaccurate test results.  Science is not up to the 
> standards required to effectively handle the plague.
>
> https://www.ktoo.org/2020/08/12/uncruise-says-wilderness-adventurer-did-not-have-covid-19-on-board-after-all/
>
> clay 
>
> I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.
>
>
>
>> On Aug 13, 2020, at 7:41 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It is almost all false negatives with the current PCR nasopharyngeal seab,
>> die to technique. False positives are rare.
>> 
>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2020, 9:43 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Neither appeals particularly, with false negative you expose others, with
>>> false positive you're stuck in quarantine for 2 weeks without the benefit
>>> of at least hopefully getting anti-bodies.
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>>On Wednesday, August 12, 2020, 12:37:13 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel <
>>> astrasfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've booked my flight to Moscow already.NOT.
>>> I wonder if the inaccuracy of the cheap daily means false ++ or false --
>>> results. It makes a huge difference.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 12:30 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Its not the stupidest idea I've seen for sure but IIRC the cheap/fast
>>> tests right now are only like 80% accurate. I guess its better than nothing
>>> but not by a lot. Even if it were, say $1/test that would be a big cost for
>>> a school with hundreds of students to test on a daily basis.
>>> I'm nervous of Russia's release of a vaccine. It'll be interesting to see
>>> what happens. I suspect China is right behind and will be releasing
>>> something in a month or two.
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>>On Wednesday, August 12, 2020, 12:22:23 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via
>>> Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Cheap, frequent COVID tests could be ‘akin to vaccine,’ professor says.
>>> 
>>> "Harvard epidemiologist and expert in disease testing is calling for a
>>> shift in strategy toward a cheap, daily, do-it-yourself test that he says
>>> can be as effective as a vaccine at interrupting coronavirus transmission —
>>> and is currently the only viable option for a quick return to an
>>> approximation of normal life.
>>> 
>>> “These are our hope,” said Michal Mina
>>> , assistant professor
>>> of epidemiology at Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
>>>  and Brigham and Women’s Hospital
>>> . “We don’t have anything tomorrow,
>>> other
>>> than shutting down the economy and keeping schools closed.”
>>> 
>>> As the pandemic’s health, economic, and educational toll mounts, Mina, a
>>> member of the Harvard Chan School’s Center for Communicable Disease
>>> Dynamics,  said the paper-strip tests have
>>> already been developed and their shotgun approach to testing — cheap and
>>> widespread — provides a way back to the workplace, classroom, and other
>>> venues."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/08/cheap-daily-covid-tests-could-be-akin-to-vaccine/?utm_source=SilverpopMailing_medium=email_campaign=Daily%20Gazette%2020200812%20(1)

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