Re: [MBZ] Yeow!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Macchiato or parchment?

On Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at 5:56 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Really? While I'm not sure about the color being green, as the lighting
> makes it look grayer, it's a good example of the model. The reupholstery is
> questionable, but it could have been leather originally. If so, the
> restoration cost would have been substantial. Easily $USD 1,000/seat.
>
> -D
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Bob Rentfro
> via Mercedes 
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> Subject: [MBZ] Yeow!
>
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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3513318978912817/
>
>
>
> For some reason, this gives me the heebie jeebies.
>
>
>
> AZBob
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Re: [MBZ] OT: charger outages leave northern Ontario EV drivers stranded

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I have a home EV charging station connected to my solar roof panels.

I drove the Chevy Spark once; it is a lot peppier than the Leaf.  Nissan
has taken pains to make the driving experience very similar to a gas car,
which means average acceleration.  Most of the Leafs on sale here are very
low mileage and obviously well cared for (2015 and 2016 model year).  I
also looked at a Kia Soul EV, for about the same price but uglier.



On Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at 10:32 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> That's another problem with the charging stations, they all want you to
> use their app and have an account set up with your credit card on file with
> them so they can bill it and cross-reference it to all the other tracking
> data they glean from the spying their app does.
>
> I was reading that some countries are passing laws that you have to be
> able to pay at the charging point with a credit card, just like at a gas
> station.
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 7, 2023, at 17:10, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> > You have to have some sort of account that bills I I believe, I’m not
> > sure if you can insert a cc like at a gas pump. I was sitting in a GMs
> > office when he was having a call with a vendor for these charging
> > systems they are now required to have. First company was $1.6 million,
> > this company was 1.2 and then were down to $800k.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Vermont Closes Loophole Allowing Out-of-State Registrations

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yea I saw that. Damn. I had several cars I needed to do. 

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> On Jul 7, 2023, at 8:29 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes 
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> https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a44473910/vermont-closes-loophole-allowing-out-of-state-registrations/?source=nl_source=nl_rdt_medium=email=070723_campaign=nl32016628=0700320b8e0bd0d1b43746b4f47221be31f525cdb3a7e51f1c287bb4c9c24f5c_term=TEST-%20NEW%20TEST%20-%20Sending%20List%20-%20AM%20180D%20Clicks%2C%20NON%20AM%2090D%20Opens%2C%20Both%20Subbed%20Last%2030D
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Re: [MBZ] OT: charger outages leave northern Ontario EV drivers stranded

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

That's another problem with the charging stations, they all want you to use 
their app and have an account set up with your credit card on file with them so 
they can bill it and cross-reference it to all the other tracking data they 
glean from the spying their app does.

I was reading that some countries are passing laws that you have to be able to 
pay at the charging point with a credit card, just like at a gas station.


On Fri, Jul 7, 2023, at 17:10, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> You have to have some sort of account that bills I I believe, I’m not 
> sure if you can insert a cc like at a gas pump. I was sitting in a GMs 
> office when he was having a call with a vendor for these charging 
> systems they are now required to have. First company was $1.6 million, 
> this company was 1.2 and then were down to $800k. 
>
> Sent from my iPhone

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[MBZ] Vermont Closes Loophole Allowing Out-of-State Registrations

[Russ Williams via Mercedes]

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a44473910/vermont-closes-loophole-allowing-out-of-state-registrations/?source=nl_source=nl_rdt_medium=email=070723_campaign=nl32016628=0700320b8e0bd0d1b43746b4f47221be31f525cdb3a7e51f1c287bb4c9c24f5c_term=TEST-%20NEW%20TEST%20-%20Sending%20List%20-%20AM%20180D%20Clicks%2C%20NON%20AM%2090D%20Opens%2C%20Both%20Subbed%20Last%2030D 



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Re: [MBZ] Lectric cars

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

Attaboy!!

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> On Jul 7, 2023, at 7:48 PM, RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Folk
> 
> I’ve been looking for a leaf say 2012-15 for a max of $1500 or so … and they 
> can be had for that with low range like say 20 miles … failed battery …. I am 
> wondering if you can open the pack and cherry pick the good cells and replace 
> the bad with some more good ones and get it back up to 85 mile range …. 
> Apparently you can replace the pack with say a 2017 model ….for like $10k but 
> then you might have 175 plus range 
> 
> In other news … the bed failed on my rollback … I assumed it was the PTO not 
> engaging … I pulled that and got some experts to disassemble and re seal it … 
> it has hydraulic clutches that run off the Isuzu NPR Aisan (I think that is 
> the brand) transmission. I reinstalled it and it worked …. Still no action on 
> the bed .  I realized that it was out of hydraulic fluid …. I had to refill 
> the tank under the bed with a hose since the bed wouldn’t slide …. THEN I 
> realized that there was a leak at a hydraulic filter assembly. It had a 
> clogged filter indicator that had apparently melted …. I thought I could plug 
> it with 1/2 inch pipe plug but it didn’t fit . I finally found a straight  
> threaded 1/2 inch plug with an o ring on Amazon for $1.47 delivered … how do 
> they do that? The plug fit and I reassembled everything and we dumped about 7 
> gals of AW 32 hydraulic oil $75 and $85 for 5 gals from the flaps but I 
> ordered some more from Walmart for $55 or so for 5 gals. I need it for some 
> forklifts too.
> 
> Anyway, I’m delighted to have the rollback rolling.
> 
> Xx rick on tybee where it REALLY felt like 94 today even tho temp was 91 … 
> seemed like the hottest day of the year, so far
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Re: [MBZ] OT: charger outages leave northern Ontario EV drivers stranded

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Our local Target has a bank of 6-8 chargers, though I've never stopped to
look closely at them. I did see one car charging there once ...

On Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at 7:23 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> Exactly
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
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> > On Jul 7, 2023, at 4:16 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > 
> >>
> >> For less than half that money I can get a decent W211 and drive it 400
> miles without stopping.
> >
> > And after 5 minutes refueling, wash, rinse, and repeat.  Indefinitely.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: charger outages leave northern Ontario EV drivers stranded

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Exactly 

--FT
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> On Jul 7, 2023, at 4:16 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> For less than half that money I can get a decent W211 and drive it 400 miles 
>> without stopping.
> 
> And after 5 minutes refueling, wash, rinse, and repeat.  Indefinitely.
> 
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[MBZ] Lectric cars

[RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes]

Folk

I’ve been looking for a leaf say 2012-15 for a max of $1500 or so … and they 
can be had for that with low range like say 20 miles … failed battery …. I am 
wondering if you can open the pack and cherry pick the good cells and replace 
the bad with some more good ones and get it back up to 85 mile range …. 
Apparently you can replace the pack with say a 2017 model ….for like $10k but 
then you might have 175 plus range 

In other news … the bed failed on my rollback … I assumed it was the PTO not 
engaging … I pulled that and got some experts to disassemble and re seal it … 
it has hydraulic clutches that run off the Isuzu NPR Aisan (I think that is the 
brand) transmission. I reinstalled it and it worked …. Still no action on the 
bed .  I realized that it was out of hydraulic fluid …. I had to refill the 
tank under the bed with a hose since the bed wouldn’t slide …. THEN I realized 
that there was a leak at a hydraulic filter assembly. It had a clogged filter 
indicator that had apparently melted …. I thought I could plug it with 1/2 inch 
pipe plug but it didn’t fit . I finally found a straight  threaded 1/2 inch 
plug with an o ring on Amazon for $1.47 delivered … how do they do that? The 
plug fit and I reassembled everything and we dumped about 7 gals of AW 32 
hydraulic oil $75 and $85 for 5 gals from the flaps but I ordered some more 
from Walmart for $55 or so for 5 gals. I need it for some forklifts too.

Anyway, I’m delighted to have the rollback rolling.

Xx rick on tybee where it REALLY felt like 94 today even tho temp was 91 … 
seemed like the hottest day of the year, so far

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Re: [MBZ] W201...Anyone?

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

On 2023-07-07 18:22, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/992988368803997/


Same interior as my silver W201 turbo. I'm not a fan on that color.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: charger outages leave northern Ontario EV drivers stranded

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

When I was EV shopping 7 years ago I asked my boss if I could run an 
extension cord (75 mile round trip is battery abuse in an 18kWh car, and 
not even achievable in bad weather) and she informed me that DeWitt had 
a free city owned Level 2 charger. IIRC the Downtown Development 
Authority bought it and the city paid for the juice. Since we were dues 
paying members of the DDA, I figured I could plug in at 8AM and then 
move my car to the office at lunchtime.


The point of this story is that the DeWitt charger was free, but without 
a Chargepoint account you couldn't even unlock the charge cord (lift the 
nozzle from the pump, so to speak). I signed up with Chargepoint.com, 
and it was pretty easy to log into the charger and access the J1772 
connector. I ended up not buying the EV, and when tax season rolled 
around in January 2017, I noticed the charge station was wrapped up in 
yellow police tape. It took nearly a year before it was back in service.


The Spark's Level 2 charger is very weak, 3.3kW, or about 15 miles per 
hour.
If I had to run an extension cord from the office and use the 120V Level 
1 adapter that came with the car, it'd be more like 6-7 miles per hour. 
Which reminds me of one of the reasons why I didn't buy the black 2015 
Spark from the dealer in Wisconsin, it didn't have the $750 Level 3 high 
speed charging option so I was limited to 16A at 240v and long trips in 
that car would be slower than on a bicycle. IIRC the optional Level 3 
port was good for 50A @ 400VDC (but the closest public Level 3 was in 
Ann Arbor at the time).


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[MBZ] W201...Anyone?

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/992988368803997/ AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: charger outages leave northern Ontario EV drivers stranded

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

You have to have some sort of account that bills I I believe, I’m not sure if 
you can insert a cc like at a gas pump. I was sitting in a GMs office when he 
was having a call with a vendor for these charging systems they are now 
required to have. First company was $1.6 million, this company was 1.2 and then 
were down to $800k. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 7, 2023, at 4:50 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I had a compact hybrid Ford sedan in 2018 as a rental. It performed well and 
> used very little gas. As I recall, after driving it for three weeks for a 
> daily driver I think I put $10 of gas in to the whole time.
> 
> I just came back from Wally World, where I took a look at the chargers they 
> have in their parking lot. It appears you have to pay no matter what. At 
> least that's what it appears, as it tells you to plug in the car first and 
> then you'll be prompted for the kind of charge you want. Nothing in the way 
> of instructions or information regarding the cost on the chargers, you 
> apparently have to connect up first before you can do anything. I did look on 
> the website for the chargers and this is what it said:
> 
> 1-350 kWh $0.48 per kWh
> 
> Looks like they have a couple different kinds of chargers, regular and 
> fast/high capacity. I understand kWhs, but not sure how that translates into 
> charging.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Randy Bennell via 
> Mercedes 
> Sent: Friday, July 7, 2023 5:32 PM
> To: mitch--- via Mercedes 
> Cc: Randy Bennell 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: charger outages leave northern Ontario EV drivers 
> stranded
> 
> I was sort of interested in the Volt except for its price tag. So far as
> I am concerned, any EV needs to be a hybrid so that one can go longer
> distances without concern about re-charging.
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
>> On 07/07/2023 4:21 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:
>>> On 2023-07-07 14:53, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I could see an EV being nice for my daily commute, but for what they
>>> cost I expect to be able to do more than that with a vehicle.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ten years ago I thought the Volt was not a great idea, but over the
>> years people I knew who switched from Cruzes to Volts all loved the Volt.
>> 
>> By the numbers, the Volt was heavier and slower than a Cruze (same
>> chassis), got slightly more  mpg on the open road, got maybe 2/3 the
>> EV range of the Spark with the same battery the Spark used. With the
>> 2nd Gen Cruze/Volt, the mpg gap shrunk, the performance gap widened,
>> and even if I did 80% of my driving in EV mode I wouldn't save enough
>> to ever recover the purchase cost of the Volt.
>> 
>> But the heavy Volt was comfortable on the freeway, handled adequately
>> in the corners, was very quiet and acceptably economical in EV mode,
>> and driving to Florida was as simple as stopping for gas every 350
>> miles (10 gallon tank). But for me, the gas Cruze was cheaper, almost
>> as quiet, and had all the performance (2nd generation anyway) of my
>> 2.3-16v.
>> 
>> If Dan wanted to stick a Volt in the Flagstaff garage, he could keep
>> it fueled from a 120V outlet, and a trip to Phoenix would be merely a
>> gas nozzle away. It might not be fast, but it'll handily out
>> accelerate a 300D, even a OM606 turbo.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Yeow!

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Really? While I'm not sure about the color being green, as the lighting makes 
it look grayer, it's a good example of the model. The reupholstery is 
questionable, but it could have been leather originally. If so, the restoration 
cost would have been substantial. Easily $USD 1,000/seat.

-D

From: Mercedes  on behalf of Bob Rentfro via 
Mercedes 
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2023 5:34 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: azbob...@gmail.com 
Subject: [MBZ] Yeow!


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3513318978912817/



For some reason, this gives me the heebie jeebies.



AZBob



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Re: [MBZ] OT: charger outages leave northern Ontario EV drivers stranded

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I had a compact hybrid Ford sedan in 2018 as a rental. It performed well and 
used very little gas. As I recall, after driving it for three weeks for a daily 
driver I think I put $10 of gas in to the whole time.

I just came back from Wally World, where I took a look at the chargers they 
have in their parking lot. It appears you have to pay no matter what. At least 
that's what it appears, as it tells you to plug in the car first and then 
you'll be prompted for the kind of charge you want. Nothing in the way of 
instructions or information regarding the cost on the chargers, you apparently 
have to connect up first before you can do anything. I did look on the website 
for the chargers and this is what it said:

1-350 kWh $0.48 per kWh

Looks like they have a couple different kinds of chargers, regular and 
fast/high capacity. I understand kWhs, but not sure how that translates into 
charging.

-D



From: Mercedes  on behalf of Randy Bennell via 
Mercedes 
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2023 5:32 PM
To: mitch--- via Mercedes 
Cc: Randy Bennell 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: charger outages leave northern Ontario EV drivers 
stranded

I was sort of interested in the Volt except for its price tag. So far as
I am concerned, any EV needs to be a hybrid so that one can go longer
distances without concern about re-charging.

Randy


On 07/07/2023 4:21 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:
> On 2023-07-07 14:53, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> I could see an EV being nice for my daily commute, but for what they
>> cost I expect to be able to do more than that with a vehicle.
>
>
>
> Ten years ago I thought the Volt was not a great idea, but over the
> years people I knew who switched from Cruzes to Volts all loved the Volt.
>
> By the numbers, the Volt was heavier and slower than a Cruze (same
> chassis), got slightly more  mpg on the open road, got maybe 2/3 the
> EV range of the Spark with the same battery the Spark used. With the
> 2nd Gen Cruze/Volt, the mpg gap shrunk, the performance gap widened,
> and even if I did 80% of my driving in EV mode I wouldn't save enough
> to ever recover the purchase cost of the Volt.
>
> But the heavy Volt was comfortable on the freeway, handled adequately
> in the corners, was very quiet and acceptably economical in EV mode,
> and driving to Florida was as simple as stopping for gas every 350
> miles (10 gallon tank). But for me, the gas Cruze was cheaper, almost
> as quiet, and had all the performance (2nd generation anyway) of my
> 2.3-16v.
>
> If Dan wanted to stick a Volt in the Flagstaff garage, he could keep
> it fueled from a 120V outlet, and a trip to Phoenix would be merely a
> gas nozzle away. It might not be fast, but it'll handily out
> accelerate a 300D, even a OM606 turbo.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Yeow!

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 07/07/2023 4:34 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3513318978912817/

For some reason, this gives me the heebie jeebies.

AZBob


Why?

It looks nice. I suspect the original interior colour was black but the 
white looks nice. I wonder about the seat upholstery. If it is vinyl, it 
won't likely breathe like MB Tex.


I wonder about the Bosch temperature gauge? And what is below that 
gauge? Is it another or just a filler of some sort?


Randy
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[MBZ] Yeow!

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3513318978912817/ For some reason, this gives me the heebie jeebies.  AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: charger outages leave northern Ontario EV drivers stranded

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I was sort of interested in the Volt except for its price tag. So far as 
I am concerned, any EV needs to be a hybrid so that one can go longer 
distances without concern about re-charging.


Randy


On 07/07/2023 4:21 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:

On 2023-07-07 14:53, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
I could see an EV being nice for my daily commute, but for what they 
cost I expect to be able to do more than that with a vehicle.




Ten years ago I thought the Volt was not a great idea, but over the 
years people I knew who switched from Cruzes to Volts all loved the Volt.


By the numbers, the Volt was heavier and slower than a Cruze (same 
chassis), got slightly more  mpg on the open road, got maybe 2/3 the 
EV range of the Spark with the same battery the Spark used. With the 
2nd Gen Cruze/Volt, the mpg gap shrunk, the performance gap widened, 
and even if I did 80% of my driving in EV mode I wouldn't save enough 
to ever recover the purchase cost of the Volt.


But the heavy Volt was comfortable on the freeway, handled adequately 
in the corners, was very quiet and acceptably economical in EV mode, 
and driving to Florida was as simple as stopping for gas every 350 
miles (10 gallon tank). But for me, the gas Cruze was cheaper, almost 
as quiet, and had all the performance (2nd generation anyway) of my 
2.3-16v.


If Dan wanted to stick a Volt in the Flagstaff garage, he could keep 
it fueled from a 120V outlet, and a trip to Phoenix would be merely a 
gas nozzle away. It might not be fast, but it'll handily out 
accelerate a 300D, even a OM606 turbo.


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[MBZ] Needs Some TLC to Vying Her Up to Par

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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/4298530730372920/ With a tweaked passenger front something something? AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: charger outages leave northern Ontario EV drivers stranded

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

On 2023-07-07 14:53, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
I could see an EV being nice for my daily commute, but for what they 
cost I expect to be able to do more than that with a vehicle.




Ten years ago I thought the Volt was not a great idea, but over the 
years people I knew who switched from Cruzes to Volts all loved the 
Volt.


By the numbers, the Volt was heavier and slower than a Cruze (same 
chassis), got slightly more  mpg on the open road, got maybe 2/3 the EV 
range of the Spark with the same battery the Spark used. With the 2nd 
Gen Cruze/Volt, the mpg gap shrunk, the performance gap widened, and 
even if I did 80% of my driving in EV mode I wouldn't save enough to 
ever recover the purchase cost of the Volt.


But the heavy Volt was comfortable on the freeway, handled adequately in 
the corners, was very quiet and acceptably economical in EV mode, and 
driving to Florida was as simple as stopping for gas every 350 miles (10 
gallon tank). But for me, the gas Cruze was cheaper, almost as quiet, 
and had all the performance (2nd generation anyway) of my 2.3-16v.


If Dan wanted to stick a Volt in the Flagstaff garage, he could keep it 
fueled from a 120V outlet, and a trip to Phoenix would be merely a gas 
nozzle away. It might not be fast, but it'll handily out accelerate a 
300D, even a OM606 turbo.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: charger outages leave northern Ontario EV drivers stranded

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

On 2023-07-07 15:22, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
A 2015-2016  Nissan Leaf in good condition, low miles, and a 80-ish 
mile
range can be found around here for about $10k. Would suit 90 percent of 
my

driving trips just fine.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/125458cd-5f14-4c0c-ba00-9ce575bb35a1/



A Leaf feels kind of peppy because of the instant throttle response, but 
in reality it's slower than my Plymouth Horizon from 0-60. The short 
lived Chevy Spark would keep the tires on the edge of wheelspin from 
0-40, and 0-60 times were slightly quicker than my 2.3-16v.
The Spark was the prototype for the Bolt, which has much more battery 
and does 0-60 in the six second range.


6-7 years ago I could have bought a 2013-2015 Leaf with around 10-15kmi 
for about $10k.
I remember a dealer in Wisconsin advertising a buyback 2015 Spark for 
$9k. Probably bought back because the owner decided they didn't like EVs 
after they bought it. GM remembered the diesel fiasco of the 1980s and 
did not want unhappy EV owners badmouthing their EVs. Now I wish I'd 
bought a 5kmi Spark for $9k, and could now sell a 50kmi Spark for $9k 
before rust or battery life became an issue.


IMO the Spark was the only converted EV ever made that was worth owning. 
Even thought it didn't have a purpose built chassis, the drivetrain was 
state of the art at the time. The Leaf was a better transportation 
appliance/tool, but the Spark's motor would put a smile on your face.


Most other EV drivetrains of the previous decade were not spectacular 
(Leaf) or spectacularly craptastic (Fiat 500, Ford Focus, Honda Fit).


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Re: [MBZ] OT: charger outages leave northern Ontario EV drivers stranded

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Here in Flagstaff, which is sort of a stopping point for travelers on I-40 
between Albuquerque and Vegas or LA, the only public chargers I ever see are 
the ones at the local Walmart. I think there are four of them but I rarely see 
them being used. I do know they have some sort of credit card POS terminal on 
them, so I have to believe you're paying for the privilege.

I could justify an EV for just running around town, which I would expect would 
be charged at home. I can drive across Flagstaff in under 20 minutes, so unless 
we wanted to dash down to PHX and see AZ Bob (not this time of year, sorry 
Bob!) long trips just wouldn't be necessary. And I would keep at least one of 
the MLs for long drives. Of course, driving to PHX wouldn't be bad because it's 
mostly downhill. The return trip might not be as pleasant, however.

-D

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: charger outages leave northern Ontario EV drivers 
stranded

> For less than half that money I can get a decent W211 and drive it 400 miles 
> without stopping.

And after 5 minutes refueling, wash, rinse, and repeat.  Indefinitely.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: charger outages leave northern Ontario EV drivers stranded

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> For less than half that money I can get a decent W211 and drive it 400 miles 
> without stopping.

And after 5 minutes refueling, wash, rinse, and repeat.  Indefinitely.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: charger outages leave northern Ontario EV drivers stranded

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For less than half that money I can get a decent W211 and drive it 400 miles 
without stopping.

On Fri, Jul 7, 2023, at 14:22, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> A 2015-2016  Nissan Leaf in good condition, low miles, and a 80-ish mile
> range can be found around here for about $10k. Would suit 90 percent of my
> driving trips just fine.
> https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/125458cd-5f14-4c0c-ba00-9ce575bb35a1/
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT: charger outages leave northern Ontario EV drivers stranded

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One compliments the other.

On Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at 3:48 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So, the question is: Why are you driving Mercedes instead of a Nissan Leaf?
>
> Randy
>
> On 07/07/2023 2:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > A 2015-2016  Nissan Leaf in good condition, low miles, and a 80-ish mile
> > range can be found around here for about $10k. Would suit 90 percent of
> my
> > driving trips just fine.
> > https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/125458cd-5f14-4c0c-ba00-9ce575bb35a1/
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: charger outages leave northern Ontario EV drivers stranded

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

So, the question is: Why are you driving Mercedes instead of a Nissan Leaf?

Randy

On 07/07/2023 2:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

A 2015-2016  Nissan Leaf in good condition, low miles, and a 80-ish mile
range can be found around here for about $10k. Would suit 90 percent of my
driving trips just fine.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/125458cd-5f14-4c0c-ba00-9ce575bb35a1/




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Re: [MBZ] OT: charger outages leave northern Ontario EV drivers stranded

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A 2015-2016  Nissan Leaf in good condition, low miles, and a 80-ish mile
range can be found around here for about $10k. Would suit 90 percent of my
driving trips just fine.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/125458cd-5f14-4c0c-ba00-9ce575bb35a1/

On Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at 3:16 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> The latest idiocy is to give big fed tax incentives to buy EVs then when
> the states aren’t getting their tax revenues they have to come up with
> paybythemile schemes
>
> --FT
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>
> > On Jul 7, 2023, at 2:38 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > It just proves how stupid the majority of the people are.
> > The fools in our federal government want us to go electric so a whole
> bunch of people do it, and these are generally well to do people or they
> couldn't afford to buy the electric car in the first place.
> > A hybrid might serve the purpose but a pure electric does not appeal to
> me in the slightest.
> >
> > Randy
> >
> >
> >> On 07/07/2023 10:50 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> >> "The biggest disappointment in owning an EV is public charging — public
> fast charging."
> >>
> >> The one thing that seems so obvious is the thing EV buyers just seem to
> be willfully blind to.
> >>
> >>
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/ev-charger-outtages-northern-ontario-1.6895863
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Re: [MBZ] OT: charger outages leave northern Ontario EV drivers stranded

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Yep, all around a stupid bad idea. 

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> On Jul 7, 2023, at 2:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The latest idiocy is to give big fed tax incentives to buy EVs then when the 
> states aren’t getting their tax revenues they have to come up with 
> paybythemile schemes 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Jul 7, 2023, at 2:38 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It just proves how stupid the majority of the people are.
>> The fools in our federal government want us to go electric so a whole bunch 
>> of people do it, and these are generally well to do people or they couldn't 
>> afford to buy the electric car in the first place.
>> A hybrid might serve the purpose but a pure electric does not appeal to me 
>> in the slightest.
>> 
>> Randy
>> 
>> 
 On 07/07/2023 10:50 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>>> "The biggest disappointment in owning an EV is public charging — public 
>>> fast charging."
>>> 
>>> The one thing that seems so obvious is the thing EV buyers just seem to be 
>>> willfully blind to.
>>> 
>>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/ev-charger-outtages-northern-ontario-1.6895863
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[MBZ] Triptronic - 2007 E350 - 230k miles - $3,900

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

If it's made it to 230k might have a good engine? Still need to check the 
numbers.

Photos are poor but from what is shown it doesn't look all that bad. Probably 
asking close to what he owes on it (lien on the tittle).

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Re: [MBZ] OT: charger outages leave northern Ontario EV drivers stranded

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

The latest idiocy is to give big fed tax incentives to buy EVs then when the 
states aren’t getting their tax revenues they have to come up with paybythemile 
schemes 

--FT
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> On Jul 7, 2023, at 2:38 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It just proves how stupid the majority of the people are.
> The fools in our federal government want us to go electric so a whole bunch 
> of people do it, and these are generally well to do people or they couldn't 
> afford to buy the electric car in the first place.
> A hybrid might serve the purpose but a pure electric does not appeal to me in 
> the slightest.
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
>> On 07/07/2023 10:50 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> "The biggest disappointment in owning an EV is public charging — public fast 
>> charging."
>> 
>> The one thing that seems so obvious is the thing EV buyers just seem to be 
>> willfully blind to.
>> 
>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/ev-charger-outtages-northern-ontario-1.6895863
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Re: [MBZ] [Daveslist] Vermont: going out of business

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I figured it would be a matter of time before too many people because aware of it and a few ruined it for everyone. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jul 7, 2023, at 2:00 PM, Blue Ridge Mercedes  wrote:
  

  
  
ohhh...the title/registation through vermont thing...Lame.

On 7/7/2023 2:44 PM, Kaleb Striplin
  wrote:


  
  Damn, I had SEVERAL cars I needed to do this for. Wtf. There are
  people around here that will do a title 42 for you to get a title
  on a car in OK. It involves sending a certified letter to the last
  owner, filling out forms etc and you get a title in about 8 weeks.
  These people charge anywhere from $2-400 or more. You can also do
  a court ordered title but that costs more if you have somebody do
  it. Numbers I have head is $150 to file at court house for this.
  You can do all this yourself but it’s a hassle which is why these
  people/companies will do it for you. 
  
  Sent from my iPhone
  
On Jul 7, 2023, at 1:32 PM, Sixto Orosa
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  Oops, I didn’t realize it was a picture.  Heres
the article from Rodent Track - https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a44473910/vermont-closes-loophole-allowing-out-of-state-registrations/#
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
On Jul 7, 2023, at 2:27 PM, Dave
   wrote:
  

  
  

  Image was unreadable... got a link?



  
  

  
  
  
On Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at
  12:24 PM Sixto Orosa 
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What’s plan B?
  
  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: charger outages leave northern Ontario EV drivers stranded

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I could see an EV being nice for my daily commute, but for what they cost I 
expect to be able to do more than that with a vehicle.

On Fri, Jul 7, 2023, at 13:37, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
> It just proves how stupid the majority of the people are.
> The fools in our federal government want us to go electric so a whole 
> bunch of people do it, and these are generally well to do people or they 
> couldn't afford to buy the electric car in the first place.
> A hybrid might serve the purpose but a pure electric does not appeal to 
> me in the slightest.
>
> Randy
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Re: [MBZ] OT: charger outages leave northern Ontario EV drivers stranded

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

It just proves how stupid the majority of the people are.
The fools in our federal government want us to go electric so a whole 
bunch of people do it, and these are generally well to do people or they 
couldn't afford to buy the electric car in the first place.
A hybrid might serve the purpose but a pure electric does not appeal to 
me in the slightest.


Randy


On 07/07/2023 10:50 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

"The biggest disappointment in owning an EV is public charging — public fast 
charging."

The one thing that seems so obvious is the thing EV buyers just seem to be 
willfully blind to.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/ev-charger-outtages-northern-ontario-1.6895863
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Monte Carlo

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

On Fri, Jul 7, 2023, at 13:19, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> Our family had the GM diesel fever in the early 80’s

And had they sworn off of diesels for good by the mid 80s? What a terrible 
introduction.

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Re: [MBZ] Diesel Monte Carlo

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Our family had the GM diesel fever in the early 80’s after I lit that flame 
with my 1972 220D in 1978. 
My dad bought four Chevy pickups with diesels for his business, traded his 1980 
Toronado for a 1982 Diesel Toronado, and my pa-in-law waffled for three week 
trying to choose between an ‘82 Monte Carlo diesel or an ‘82 Cutlass diesel. He 
chose the Cutlass because my never say die MIL liked the color better. 

AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] has some mechanical problems--Not sure as to the extent of them. 2006 Mercedes R350-Please Read Description, $1, 725

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Definitely an OkieAcres East candidate. You should have left 20 minutes ago.

-D

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Subject: [MBZ] has some mechanical problems--Not sure as to the extent of them. 
2006 Mercedes R350-Please Read Description, $1, 725

hmmm let me think about this...

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/807426027443174

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[MBZ] Nice cheap project

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

https://sarasota.craigslist.org/cto/d/sarasota-1996-sl-320-mercedes-benz/7640763832.html
[https://images.craigslist.org/00k0k_dfrnHb7LDla_0t20CI_600x450.jpg]
1996 SL 320 Mercedes Benz - cars & trucks - by owner - 
vehicle...
1996 SL 320 Mercedes Benz convertible runs and drives good original paint, 
elderly, driven my grandfather car new tires hardtop and soft top top stop 
working. Not sure what’s wrong with it needs TLC...
sarasota.craigslist.org


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Re: [MBZ] cant find the correct fuel injector cups -- 1974 Mercedes-Benz 450sl, $2, 800

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

That's a pretty good deal for what it is. The engine is an M117 I believe, so 
finding injector cups/sleeves shouldn't be an issue.

-D

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Subject: [MBZ] cant find the correct fuel injector cups -- 1974 Mercedes-Benz 
450sl, $2, 800

Car looks nice aside from the huge bumbers, could be a good deal.  How
hard would it be to get these parts?

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Re: [MBZ] Has suspension problem does not go up -- 2004 Mercedes-Benz sl-class SL 500 Roadster 2D, $4, 500

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Yes, the later SLs are hydraulic, essentially the same as ABC, in fact, it 
could be the same thing.

-D

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Subject: [MBZ] Has suspension problem does not go up -- 2004 Mercedes-Benz 
sl-class SL 500 Roadster 2D, $4, 500

I believe these are hydraulic suspensions.  h.  Serious gas station
bean burrito effects

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[MBZ] Diesel Monte Carlo

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

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Re: [MBZ] OT: charger outages leave northern Ontario EV drivers stranded

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Does the Costco have EV charging somewhere? The only public charging station 
here is at a supermarket, they have like half a dozen Tesla charging stations 
along the side of the building. It's not really apparent unless it's pointed 
out to you. It's along the highway so convenient for people passing through I 
guess. Woudn't do much for me as I'm rarely on that side of town.


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> I stopped at Costco yesterday to get gas. As I was leaving I see this 
> car with an older couple turning into the pumps area then I noticed it 
> was a Tesla. WTF was he doing?  They don’t have any cheap electrons in 
> bulk there. 
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
>> On Jul 7, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> "The biggest disappointment in owning an EV is public charging — public 
>> fast charging." 
>> 
>> The one thing that seems so obvious is the thing EV buyers just seem to be 
>> willfully blind to.
>> 
>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/ev-charger-outtages-northern-ontario-1.6895863
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Re: [MBZ] I’m selling it as parts lost title -- 2007 Mercedes-Benz m-class ML 500 Sport Utility 4D,$2,800

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

The recycler who picked up my Focus required a title. They were not going to 
resell it or part it out, they were going to shred it. But they still wanted 
the title.

On Fri, Jul 7, 2023, at 12:07, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> Mmmm yeah I might know something about that
>
> I took the ML350 hulk to the scrapper a coupla weeks ago, no questions 
> asked. LKQ and those places require a tittle
>
> --FT
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>
>> On Jul 7, 2023, at 12:36 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah that's why the scrap yards here require a title for cars, even if they 
>> are non-running/not-roadworthy.
>> 
>> They don't care if it's signed, or whose name is on it, as long as you have 
>> it and there are no liens.
>> 
>>> On Fri, Jul 7, 2023, at 11:31, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:
 On 2023-07-07 10:42, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
 Moronicus apparently can't go to the DMV and get a replacement
 
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/790529339277784
>>> 
>>> Title loan company has a lien on it.
>>> 
>>> Hey, haven't we done this already?
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Re: [MBZ] OT: charger outages leave northern Ontario EV drivers stranded

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I stopped at Costco yesterday to get gas. As I was leaving I see this car with 
an older couple turning into the pumps area then I noticed it was a Tesla. WTF 
was he doing?  They don’t have any cheap electrons in bulk there. 

--FT
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> On Jul 7, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> "The biggest disappointment in owning an EV is public charging — public fast 
> charging." 
> 
> The one thing that seems so obvious is the thing EV buyers just seem to be 
> willfully blind to.
> 
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/ev-charger-outtages-northern-ontario-1.6895863
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Re: [MBZ] I’m selling it as parts lost title -- 2007 Mercedes-Benz m-class ML 500 Sport Utility 4D,$2,800

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Mmmm yeah I might know something about that

I took the ML350 hulk to the scrapper a coupla weeks ago, no questions asked. 
LKQ and those places require a tittle

--FT
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> On Jul 7, 2023, at 12:36 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yeah that's why the scrap yards here require a title for cars, even if they 
> are non-running/not-roadworthy.
> 
> They don't care if it's signed, or whose name is on it, as long as you have 
> it and there are no liens.
> 
>> On Fri, Jul 7, 2023, at 11:31, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:
>>> On 2023-07-07 10:42, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Moronicus apparently can't go to the DMV and get a replacement
>>> 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/790529339277784
>> 
>> Title loan company has a lien on it.
>> 
>> Hey, haven't we done this already?
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Re: [MBZ] OT: charger outages leave northern Ontario EV drivers stranded

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Do EV's have built in bike racks.. so you can "Go Green" when you run out
of charge?
Asking for a friend.. ;))

On Fri, Jul 7, 2023 at 9:47 AM mitch--- via Mercedes 
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> If there's no functioning commercial charger in Wawa, IIRC you've got
> quite a trip to the next place big enough to have a commercial charger.
> And the roads are veeery hilly.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: charger outages leave northern Ontario EV drivers stranded

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If there's no functioning commercial charger in Wawa, IIRC you've got 
quite a trip to the next place big enough to have a commercial charger. 
And the roads are veeery hilly.


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Re: [MBZ] I’m selling it as parts lost title -- 2007 Mercedes-Benz m-class ML 500 Sport Utility 4D,$2,800

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Yeah that's why the scrap yards here require a title for cars, even if they are 
non-running/not-roadworthy.

They don't care if it's signed, or whose name is on it, as long as you have it 
and there are no liens.

On Fri, Jul 7, 2023, at 11:31, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:
> On 2023-07-07 10:42, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> Moronicus apparently can't go to the DMV and get a replacement
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/790529339277784
>
> Title loan company has a lien on it.
>
> Hey, haven't we done this already?
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Re: [MBZ] I’m selling it as parts lost title -- 2007 Mercedes-Benz m-class ML 500 Sport Utility 4D,$2,800

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

On 2023-07-07 10:42, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

Moronicus apparently can't go to the DMV and get a replacement

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/790529339277784


Title loan company has a lien on it.

Hey, haven't we done this already?

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[MBZ] OT: charger outages leave northern Ontario EV drivers stranded

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

"The biggest disappointment in owning an EV is public charging — public fast 
charging." 

The one thing that seems so obvious is the thing EV buyers just seem to be 
willfully blind to.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/ev-charger-outtages-northern-ontario-1.6895863
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[MBZ] interior had animals living there maybe needs a good cleaning 1999 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 300TD Sedan 4D, $200

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

we took the engine for other project

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[MBZ] 2008 E350 4Matic - 107k miles - $11,000

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Looks nice and engine serial number checks out OK but that's a big ask.

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[MBZ] has some mechanical problems--Not sure as to the extent of them. 2006 Mercedes R350-Please Read Description, $1, 725

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

hmmm let me think about this...

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Re: [MBZ] Battery

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I meant to mention that the developer got lucky in that it had been 20 years or 
more since oil had been put down. This magic wouldn't have worked if they'd 
been oiling the road 2 weeks ago...

-Curt




On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 10:31:58 AM EDT, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





The earth is self healing. As George Carlin said in reference to saving the 
planet "the planet isn't going anywhere. We are."


Rick

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Sent: July 7, 2023 9:04 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Cc: curtlud...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery

Dad talks about how a couple years ago he did a site plan for an old sawmill 
that got turned into luxury condos. The road in had been dirt and had been 
oiled for who knows how many decades.

The state figured it'd be an environmental disaster which would require much 
gnashing of teeth and cash.

When they tested they found that some bacteria had done the work for them and 
there was almost no detectable oil on the ground saving the property owner big 
bucks not to mention time and hassle.

-Curt



On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 12:21:56 AM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:





I stayed summers with my grandparents who lived on a gravel road. In the summer 
it was incredibly dusty. At some point the oil truck would come by and spray 
the road. It knocked down the dust but for a few days the oil would get up on 
cars. My dad cussed that a lot.

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Jul 6, 2023, at 11:27 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
>
> I remember, back on the farm, we had a 300 gallon water tank on a trailer 
> that my grandfather into an oil sprayer for all the dirt/gravel roads around 
> the homestead. The neighbors would bring their used oil down and dump it in, 
> knowing we’d run down by their house.
> At 7 years old that was my job, after I learned how to drive the 1944 Farmall 
> M, pulling that oil trailer knocking the dust down.
> I’m thinking doing that today would cause a ruckus.
>
> AZBob
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 6, 2023, at 7:04 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Probably want it to burn it in a shop heater in the winter.
>>
>> There is some waste value to it, it can be recycled but I'm sure it's not 
>> worth a lot.
>>
 On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, at 20:28, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I need to drop off a ton of waste oil. In fact somebody had an ad on
>>> Fakebook wanting to pickup waste oil. Not sure what they do with it,
>>> perhaps waste oil actually has some sort of value?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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[MBZ] cant find the correct fuel injector cups -- 1974 Mercedes-Benz 450sl, $2, 800

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Car looks nice aside from the huge bumbers, could be a good deal.  How 
hard would it be to get these parts?


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[MBZ] 2006 CLS500 - 135k mi - $7,800

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Has a few scuffs and scrapes and some sort of bandage on the driver's seat

https://peoria.craigslist.org/cto/d/peoria-mercedes-cls500c-coupe-4d-hp/7640677331.html
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[MBZ] Has suspension problem does not go up -- 2004 Mercedes-Benz sl-class SL 500 Roadster 2D, $4, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I believe these are hydraulic suspensions.  h.  Serious gas station 
bean burrito effects


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[MBZ] I’m selling it as parts lost title -- 2007 Mercedes-Benz m-class ML 500 Sport Utility 4D,$2,800

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Moronicus apparently can't go to the DMV and get a replacement

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/790529339277784

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[MBZ] I found Hunter's stash in the glove box and snorted it -- 2006 Mercedes-Benz e-class, $6, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

my camera acting up so the photos not sharp as the car really is

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Re: [MBZ] Battery

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

The earth is self healing. As George Carlin said in reference to saving the 
planet "the planet isn't going anywhere. We are."


Rick

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Sent: July 7, 2023 9:04 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Cc: curtlud...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery

Dad talks about how a couple years ago he did a site plan for an old sawmill 
that got turned into luxury condos. The road in had been dirt and had been 
oiled for who knows how many decades.

The state figured it'd be an environmental disaster which would require much 
gnashing of teeth and cash.

When they tested they found that some bacteria had done the work for them and 
there was almost no detectable oil on the ground saving the property owner big 
bucks not to mention time and hassle.

-Curt



On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 12:21:56 AM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:





I stayed summers with my grandparents who lived on a gravel road. In the summer 
it was incredibly dusty. At some point the oil truck would come by and spray 
the road. It knocked down the dust but for a few days the oil would get up on 
cars. My dad cussed that a lot.

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Jul 6, 2023, at 11:27 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
>
> I remember, back on the farm, we had a 300 gallon water tank on a trailer 
> that my grandfather into an oil sprayer for all the dirt/gravel roads around 
> the homestead. The neighbors would bring their used oil down and dump it in, 
> knowing we’d run down by their house.
> At 7 years old that was my job, after I learned how to drive the 1944 Farmall 
> M, pulling that oil trailer knocking the dust down.
> I’m thinking doing that today would cause a ruckus.
>
> AZBob
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 6, 2023, at 7:04 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Probably want it to burn it in a shop heater in the winter.
>>
>> There is some waste value to it, it can be recycled but I'm sure it's not 
>> worth a lot.
>>
 On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, at 20:28, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I need to drop off a ton of waste oil. In fact somebody had an ad on
>>> Fakebook wanting to pickup waste oil. Not sure what they do with it,
>>> perhaps waste oil actually has some sort of value?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Battery

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Dad talks about how a couple years ago he did a site plan for an old sawmill 
that got turned into luxury condos. The road in had been dirt and had been 
oiled for who knows how many decades.

The state figured it'd be an environmental disaster which would require much 
gnashing of teeth and cash.

When they tested they found that some bacteria had done the work for them and 
there was almost no detectable oil on the ground saving the property owner big 
bucks not to mention time and hassle.

-Curt



On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 12:21:56 AM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





I stayed summers with my grandparents who lived on a gravel road. In the summer 
it was incredibly dusty. At some point the oil truck would come by and spray 
the road. It knocked down the dust but for a few days the oil would get up on 
cars. My dad cussed that a lot. 

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Jul 6, 2023, at 11:27 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I remember, back on the farm, we had a 300 gallon water tank on a trailer 
> that my grandfather into an oil sprayer for all the dirt/gravel roads around 
> the homestead. The neighbors would bring their used oil down and dump it in, 
> knowing we’d run down by their house.
> At 7 years old that was my job, after I learned how to drive the 1944 Farmall 
> M, pulling that oil trailer knocking the dust down. 
> I’m thinking doing that today would cause a ruckus. 
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 6, 2023, at 7:04 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
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>> Probably want it to burn it in a shop heater in the winter.
>> 
>> There is some waste value to it, it can be recycled but I'm sure it's not 
>> worth a lot.
>> 
 On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, at 20:28, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I need to drop off a ton of waste oil. In fact somebody had an ad on 
>>> Fakebook wanting to pickup waste oil. Not sure what they do with it, 
>>> perhaps waste oil actually has some sort of value?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Battery

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

A local big truck garage will purportedly pay $0.25/gal for "clean" used motor 
oil. I've got close to 20 gallons of the stuff. I need to take it over, I'd 
give it to them if they'd take it 
Curt

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  On Thu, Jul 6, 2023 at 9:29 PM, Kaleb Striplin via 
Mercedes wrote:   I need to drop off a ton of waste oil. 
In fact somebody had an ad on Fakebook wanting to pickup waste oil. Not sure 
what they do with it, perhaps waste oil actually has some sort of value?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2023, at 8:24 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> Never bought anything at O'Reilly, but I did dump some waste oil there once. 
> Otherwise, I would have had to drive about 20 miles 'round trip to the city's 
> hazmat dropoff place.
> 
> What's weird is that they had a "sign in sheet" where you were supposed to 
> put your name and phone number if you were dropping off waste oil. Turd 
> Ferguson dropped off the oil for me.
> 
> -D
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> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Dwight Giles via 
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> Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2023 9:16 PM
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> good deal. I like dealing my local O'Reilly store
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 6, 2023, 4:36 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The battery that was in the CL600 was about new when I got the car,
>> 12/21 date on it.  It died and would not take a charge. Took it to
>> OReilly today and they gave me a new one.  Guy tried to look it up under
>> my account, I told him I had the guy I bought the car from had just put
>> the new battery in, he found some random sale of a battery and used that
>> for the return.
>> 
>> Worked out nicely.  Price new on it was $221 which is about what the
>> Interstate was from Costco the other day.
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