Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
What's with the losoe gun? On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Today's trip to the Dodge dealer was a success and I returned with this: http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_163905569_zpsjlcqf19w.jpg 2010 Dodge 1500, 4 door (all the extended cab Dodges are 4 doors now), 5.7l v8, 4wd, 5spd auto. We had tried a brand new one on Sunday and while we liked it I just didn't want to pay that much money. This one was considerably cheaper than new and only has 75,000 miles. Anyway, goodbye rusty Ranger, hello fullsize truck goodness. Now if I need to drag a car home I can do it with confidence. The Dodge is rated 1mpg better on the highway than the Ranger. It'll be interesting to compare fuel economy on long trips. The best I could ever squeak out of the Ranger was 19mpg, the Dodge is rated at 18 so it should at least hit 20mpg. Its geared higher and should do well on the highway. I do plan a couple upgrades, you'll notice the front end is very close to the ground, its going to get a 2 leveling kit, maybe a new, smaller bumper and probably a limited slip differential. I'm debating what to get for a diff, I'm debating between a Detroit TruTrac or an ARB air locker. The TruTrac is gear only, doesn't require friction modifiers and is half the cost of an ARB while the ARB would give better offroad performance and the option of a front locker if I wanted to get really serious. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
Loose, I mean... On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: What's with the losoe gun? On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Today's trip to the Dodge dealer was a success and I returned with this: http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_163905569_zpsjlcqf19w.jpg 2010 Dodge 1500, 4 door (all the extended cab Dodges are 4 doors now), 5.7l v8, 4wd, 5spd auto. We had tried a brand new one on Sunday and while we liked it I just didn't want to pay that much money. This one was considerably cheaper than new and only has 75,000 miles. Anyway, goodbye rusty Ranger, hello fullsize truck goodness. Now if I need to drag a car home I can do it with confidence. The Dodge is rated 1mpg better on the highway than the Ranger. It'll be interesting to compare fuel economy on long trips. The best I could ever squeak out of the Ranger was 19mpg, the Dodge is rated at 18 so it should at least hit 20mpg. Its geared higher and should do well on the highway. I do plan a couple upgrades, you'll notice the front end is very close to the ground, its going to get a 2 leveling kit, maybe a new, smaller bumper and probably a limited slip differential. I'm debating what to get for a diff, I'm debating between a Detroit TruTrac or an ARB air locker. The TruTrac is gear only, doesn't require friction modifiers and is half the cost of an ARB while the ARB would give better offroad performance and the option of a front locker if I wanted to get really serious. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
What channel is Roadkill on? On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah, I forgot he mentioned wooden shoes (Birkenstocks?). Gerry On 9/5/2014 3:39 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Don't forget to grow a beard, wear birkenstocks with socks and long pants. -Curt From: Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius Neighbor said I would have to start eating alfalfa sprouts, tofu, hummus, and join the Unitarian church if I bought a Prius. Gerry On 9/5/2014 1:49 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: The smug factor is worth at least $10k --R On 9/5/14 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Prius starts at $24,000, Passat starts at $21,000, Jetta starts at $16,000. Jetta and Prius are about the same size and the Jetta is purported will do 30mpg with the gas engine. You could buy a helluva lot of gas for $10,000... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed
If I ever get a gun it will be one of those trick waterpistols that shoots sideways. On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sweet. Congratulations. Going to use it to haul Colemans to the ChowdahQ? We could paint a tri star on the hood. On Sep 5, 2014 2:27 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Today's trip to the Dodge dealer was a success and I returned with this: http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_163905569_zpsjlcqf19w.jpg 2010 Dodge 1500, 4 door (all the extended cab Dodges are 4 doors now), 5.7l v8, 4wd, 5spd auto. We had tried a brand new one on Sunday and while we liked it I just didn't want to pay that much money. This one was considerably cheaper than new and only has 75,000 miles. Anyway, goodbye rusty Ranger, hello fullsize truck goodness. Now if I need to drag a car home I can do it with confidence. The Dodge is rated 1mpg better on the highway than the Ranger. It'll be interesting to compare fuel economy on long trips. The best I could ever squeak out of the Ranger was 19mpg, the Dodge is rated at 18 so it should at least hit 20mpg. Its geared higher and should do well on the highway. I do plan a couple upgrades, you'll notice the front end is very close to the ground, its going to get a 2 leveling kit, maybe a new, smaller bumper and probably a limited slip differential. I'm debating what to get for a diff, I'm debating between a Detroit TruTrac or an ARB air locker. The TruTrac is gear only, doesn't require friction modifiers and is half the cost of an ARB while the ARB would give better offroad performance and the option of a front locker if I wanted to get really serious. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT I want this
Just a matter of time before ISIS has them. On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Sat, 6 Sep 2014 12:02:40 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That truck is huge (nice big target). Damage the optics and game over... Good observation! Sort of like the dense pack concept some years ago that was renamed dunce pack. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Friday funnies: Mutant Giant Spider Dog!
That was hilarious. I wonder where these are filmed. On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Wow, reckon some people needed to change their shorts! -Curt From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, September 5, 2014 8:25 PM Subject: [MBZ] Friday funnies: Mutant Giant Spider Dog! Mutant Giant Spider Dog (SA Wardega): http://youtu.be/YoB8t0B4jx4 Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] N
I wonder how Kroger will react to that petition taking them to task for allowing shoppers to carry guns in their supermarkets On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: costco is the best. i don't care what his politics is. people tell me chick-fil-a must be banned because corporate policy hates gas . now i hear costco is no good because they hate guns i don't care. i care how they do their job and both do it quite well. i boycott burger king, not chick-fil-a. kirkland forever! On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That's interesting. I was there one day maybe a year or so ago, the guy in line ahead of me had a .45 in a holster on his belt, and did not look coppish or anything, just like a regular fat merkin good ol boy with his fat wife buying large quantities of fattening stuff. I sorta wondered about that, but no one paid him any particular attention. I think the thing to keep in mind is that Costco has plenty of stock, so there are not likely to be any fights over cheap DVD players or toilet paper bundles. But yeah, the guy who owns Costco is a commie pinko librull, but, hey, he treats me OK. And the fruit is good. And concealed is probably the way to go anyway... --R On 9/8/14 10:42 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: Now y'all can tell me I got the crappy Costco Michelins, which are different from the Michelins I would get down the road at the real tar shop. But the real tire shop would use only 80% N, so Costco is 20% better in that regard. Costco hates human rights, especially those protected by the Second Amendment to the Constitution. One guy, name of Erik Scott, was murdered for not knowing this, on his initial visit to buy a Costco membership. I try to avoid Wal-Mart, but go there every fall to buy motor oil. Costco, OTOH, I wouldn't patronize for anything. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: N
We don't have any Krogers nearby so I will have to move if I want to boycott them. On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Interesting that Kroger is taking this up. When I lived in Indiana you saw OC people all of the time. I don't ever recall seeing one in a Kroger, but I clearly recall seeing them in places like WalMart. Kroger isn't taking it up. Bloomberg's Demanding Moms want Kroger to grab the anti-gun banner, and Kroger is just saying we follow state laws. Like Starbucks, they want sales, not politics. Starbucks always went with deferring to state laws, but eventually said under pressure please don't carry, but we'll still serve you if you do. Kroger isn't willing to give the anti gun side even that much. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Jackpot!
What's the diff between air and N2 in terms of tire performance or handling or ??? On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: yabbutt you don't live in Der Vaderland and could sell Certified Hun N. You just have the widely-available domestic stuff. --R On 9/8/14 3:56 PM, Van Knutson via Mercedes wrote: Nitrogen Tire Fill $89 on there. ** In that case, I've got about $10K worth of nitrogen just floating around in my house. Who knew? DBV, N2 is the new oil shale information minister ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Wilton get out your flight bag
So you would disallow them?? On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: No, heroes are no longer needed. Have you seen Ender's Game? Military industrial complex has decided there are more profits to be made in drones, and Barry loves them (very little political risk), so we'll be using our finest to fend off Putin's bombers via video screens and joy sticks, then home by 4 for momma's cooking. Probably only right-wing websites will get excited about that conflict. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Sep 8, 2014 6:21 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russian- strategic-bombers-near-canada-practice-cruise-missile-strikes-on-us/ --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] N
You lost me there. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Those guys that got the beat down by the group of youths would probably support the idea. --R On 9/9/14 11:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I wonder how Kroger will react to that petition taking them to task for allowing shoppers to carry guns in their supermarkets ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Where is the local you are referring to? Best peaches and other stone fruit I ever ate were purchased at Pike Place Market in Seattle, but they cost several dollars apiece... They were gi-normous, however. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 3:33 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I had the SC and GA peaches. I found them to be not all they are cracked up to be. Local to me seemed to have the best taste. Enough cold days and warm summer for perfection. clay On Sep 8, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote: the best peaches i've seen are on the GA/SC border area. new jersey also has great peaches that aren't talked about enough. i'd rather an SC peach than a GA peach as i am more confident an SC peach will come from this region On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I go across the road and get fresh SC peaches. 0.5 mile round trip, a bit over 3 minutes --R On 9/8/14 4:46 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: SWMBA came down from AK to get her household effects. She also wanted to do her annual peach canning session. I figured out the fruit stand over the mountains was open fairly early, so I did the 200 mile trip to get her three boxes. A bit over three hours before breakfast, and I had fresh fruit on my corn flakes. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] N
MDA? Minimum daily allowance (of vitamins)? On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I wonder how Kroger will react to that petition taking them to task for allowing shoppers to carry guns in their supermarkets So far, they've been trying to politely tell MDA to urinate up a rope. Now even the official anti-gun opinion writer at IndyStar thinks MDA is crazy. http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/09/robert-farago/ moms-demand-action-gun-sense-americas-hometown-paper-fed-mda/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
I have an apple tree in the front yard of my new home. How can I identify the variety just from the fruit itself? They are a crisp, juicy, tart reddish/green apple perfect for pies. Excellent flavor and not of a common variety. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You hit the nail on the head, local fruit is always the best fruit. Stuff that has to be shipped is picked before its ripe and ripens either in a truck or on a shelf. Neither is what you'd want for best flavor. -Curt From: clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius I had the SC and GA peaches. I found them to be not all they are cracked up to be. Local to me seemed to have the best taste. Enough cold days and warm summer for perfection. clay On Sep 8, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote: the best peaches i've seen are on the GA/SC border area. new jersey also has great peaches that aren't talked about enough. i'd rather an SC peach than a GA peach as i am more confident an SC peach will come from this region On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I go across the road and get fresh SC peaches. 0.5 mile round trip, a bit over 3 minutes --R On 9/8/14 4:46 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: SWMBA came down from AK to get her household effects. She also wanted to do her annual peach canning session. I figured out the fruit stand over the mountains was open fairly early, so I did the 200 mile trip to get her three boxes. A bit over three hours before breakfast, and I had fresh fruit on my corn flakes. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Here is another one
There's at least $5k worth of work needed just to make it safe to drive, including reassembling the dash but not repainting the body. Needs a tuneup probably translates to needs a valve job. If it's green it would look awesome repainted, but by then we're in the upper brackets. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Crap, it's cheaper than the other one but I think the other one is nicer, unless this one does not have any rust Sent from my iPhone On Sep 9, 2014, at 7:58 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Even the license plate says I'm green, take me home Kaleb ;)) On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 1972 Mercedes-Benz 280SE 4.5 http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/cto/4659098749.html via cPro Craigslist App iOS: http://bit.ly/CL_iOS Android: http://bit.ly/CL_android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] N
If I am a bad guy who doesn't qualify to purchase a gun, how inviting it would be to see some fat slob openly displaying a handgun. Easy pickings. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 9:03 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Scott Ritchey wrote: I never saw much point in open carry in public. Short answer: Deterrent. The OC guys say they live happier lives never getting mugged in the first place because the muggers pick a soft target. The CC guys say they've got the element of surprise when somebody tries to mug them not knowing they're armed. They also believe that when making contact with a criminal who decided when and where to jump you, he's the one with the element of surprise in his favor, you've just got the disadvantage of trying to draw from inside your clothes while his weapon is already deployed. There's a good article about 'the open carry debate' on page 9 of this newsletter. I'm going to meet the guy who wrote it tomorrow night. http://miopencarry.org/moc_files/publications/newsletter/ MOC-Newsletter-4.pdf Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Prius
Corectly should have a k On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Noticeable Weird Noisey Two out of three are spelled corectly above On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I believe a lot of the bike folks think that loud is good as it makes them more noticable. Drivers do not pay enough attention and it is easy to miss a motorcycle. I can say that I have heard bikes coming before I have seen them. Randy who would not want to ride one the noisy ones very far PS - As you get older, do you find that you have more issues with spelling? I am looking at the message above and wondering if noticable and noisy are correct. Wierd. On 09/09/2014 7:00 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Man some days it feels like it. Makes you want to swerve over when one sits next to you at a light constantly blipping the throttle. Harley owners are generally a menace. A couple years ago they talked about giving the anti-loud pipe laws here some teeth and the Harley guys were all against it including Angie's Dad. I pointed out that quieting things down was better than getting banned outright but he doesn't understand me. Of course he thinks the Ninja Turtle bikes should be quieted down... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Prius
Noticeable Weird Noisey Two out of three are spelled corectly above On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I believe a lot of the bike folks think that loud is good as it makes them more noticable. Drivers do not pay enough attention and it is easy to miss a motorcycle. I can say that I have heard bikes coming before I have seen them. Randy who would not want to ride one the noisy ones very far PS - As you get older, do you find that you have more issues with spelling? I am looking at the message above and wondering if noticable and noisy are correct. Wierd. On 09/09/2014 7:00 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Man some days it feels like it. Makes you want to swerve over when one sits next to you at a light constantly blipping the throttle. Harley owners are generally a menace. A couple years ago they talked about giving the anti-loud pipe laws here some teeth and the Harley guys were all against it including Angie's Dad. I pointed out that quieting things down was better than getting banned outright but he doesn't understand me. Of course he thinks the Ninja Turtle bikes should be quieted down... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] N
Here's an interesting new study on gun violence, and associated costs, by the Urban Institute: http://blog.metrotrends.org/2014/08/costs-gun-violence-hospital-price-tag/ On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Probably true but you know what they say about statistics. And, I assume your odds of dying in gun violence are a lot higher in the USA than they are in Canada. RB On 09/09/2014 7:02 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: More people die of: Heart disease (by almost a factor of 20) and Medical Mistakes. Statistically speaking your chance of dying in gun violence is astonishingly small. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Another 108 for Kaleb, in AR
I love Horizon Blue! Too bad it is so overpriced. On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://www.mbca.org/forum/2014-08-16/280se-45 -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] N
What anti-gun laws? On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Depends on where specifically. I suspect I have a lesser chance of dying of gun violence than somebody in downtown Montreal or Toronto. Years ago I was setting up a call center in Halifax and there were roving gangs of teenagers killing people with sticks and bats. People were afraid to go out at night. I moved the tire iron from the trunk of my rental car into the cabin but had no troubles. If anti-gun laws worked then places like Chicago and Washington DC wouldn't have any gun violence, in fact the truth is exactly the opposite. -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] N Probably true but you know what they say about statistics. And, I assume your odds of dying in gun violence are a lot higher in the USA than they are in Canada. RB On 09/09/2014 7:02 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: More people die of: Heart disease (by almost a factor of 20) and Medical Mistakes. Statistically speaking your chance of dying in gun violence is astonishingly small. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] N and guns
The nut case is the guy displaying a gun in public. The criminal is probably smart enough to disarm the nut case. On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Typically the Blackhawk line of holsters have a catch positioned so it can be quickly released if needed by the wearer, but are very awkward for anyone else to be able to reach while also trying to draw the pistol out of the holster. These are the same holsters that uniformed police and military typically use. Your typical nut case wouldn't have a clue, and would almost certainly end up leaving without the gun (but maybe leaking daylight and/or in hand cuffs). On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So, how secure is that gun in the holster? How easy might it be for someone to come up behind you and take the gun from you? That is what would concern me as much as anything. If some nut case takes your gun, you may just be the first one to get shot. RB -- - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] N
What are the before and after numbers? Which states? COuld any other factors be involved, such as incarceration rates? On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 2:19 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: In the interest of fairness with numbers, how about having a look at the dramatic drop in crime of all types each time a state has passed concealed carry permitting laws? In every case there has been a sharp decline in crime. In that same line of thought, take a look at the murder and crime capitals of the USA. In every instance, they are states which severely restrict or out right ban private gun ownership. If you remove these Unarmed Victim Zones from the quoted calculations by Brady group, the number of deaths by shooting is well below that of England, for example [Which is for all intents, unarmed] and places USA near the bottom of the list as number 4 out of the 204 countries of the world for the number of shooting deaths. Keep in mind there is an estimated 298,000,000 firearms owned by Americans [that figure may even be conservative]. That number alone says there are millions of responsible gun owners who use their private arms while carefully avoiding shooting another person. Believe what you wish, however, for myself, I prefer solid facts backed by logic, not emotion. http://americangunfacts.com/ Grant.. On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Probably not, last year (or was it early this year) the Obama administration put out the 33,000 number which even they admit is probably half suicides... Also the thing below doesn't admit that the number has been falling steadily for the last 40 or so years. -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] N You might not like the source, but are the numbers correct? RB On 10/09/2014 7:17 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote: At 2:15 PM -0500 9/9/14, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: *The big picture:* * Every year in the U.S., an average of more than 100,000 people are shot, according to The Brady Campaign To Prevent Gun Violence There's your problem there, the source. They have a rather large axe to grind. -MMM- ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] N
That's ancient history. On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: What anti-gun laws? Possession of handguns by non-government employees was totally banned in both District of Criminals and Chitcago for decades before recently being overturned by the Supreme Court. And by totally banned, I mean they considered it a felony to have one inside your home that you never took anywhere. OTOH, if you were an anti-gun newspaper writer, it was not only OK to have a handgun, you could shoot a kid for swimming in your pool without permission and not face charges. (Carl Rowan) Most people would consider that an anti-gun law. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] N and guns
Let's not get personal, please. You don't know me at all. On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: G Mann via Mercedes wrote: And that observation is based on what fact? The fact that Andrew is of the privileged Progressive type that gets to make up their facts on the fly, and evil Conservatives aren't allowed to dispute them. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius and changing subjects
Careful, DImitri. You need to be kidnapped by the Toyota goon squad and reprogrammed. On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 8:08 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Not all electric cars are fruity. The Prius on the other hand Sent from my iPhone On Sep 10, 2014, at 7:33 PM, John Reames via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: *Ahem* Generalizations aren't always correct. (I drive an electric car; as previously discussed, it is perfect for the needs I lease it for... I'm definitely not a fruit, although I suppose whether or not I am a nut might be a matter for debate...) Btw, it costs me about $4 per hundred miles in energy costs; the average consumption in the first 720 miles, including my learning how to optimize my driving, and some driving by those who haven't figured out the magic of regenerative braking, is 3.5 mi/kWh. I am regularly getting 3.9-4.3 mi/kWh these days. The estimated range is 80-85mi (EPA is 63). I can't complain about it at all, especially being able to park and squeeze through impossible spots! I'll still take one of the W210.025's for any long trip or where there is need for more than 2 seats. OB MB content: The electric car is a smart ED. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Sep 10, 2014, at 14:02, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: those electro cars are owned by fruits and nuts On Sep 10, 2014, at 8:42 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: Let me suggest that apples and peaches have little to do with a Prius. RB On 09/09/2014 10:48 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: I'm sure there is at least one heritage and heirloom apple site on the internet, with pictures. You can indeed identify your tree by the apples. My boss up in Canada had some trees up the hill behind the house that I think were SnowQueen or Famouse (sp) -- one of the original named apples from ether England or France. The house was originally built before the American Revolution (Sailor's Encampment on St. Joseph's Island, Ontario), and I suspect from the condition and appearent age of the trees, they had been there since the place was built. Bright but darkish red skin with pronounced red streaks in the flesh, small, and the best tasting apples I've ever eaten. Peter ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 turbo rebuild
Why rebuild? Other that for a 1985, it's smarter to purchase a cheap used.one. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Lol, my brother just spent $780 to get the turbo out of the wrecked 300D fixed, they had to bore out the housing and install oversized bearings it was so worn. Guess I should have replaced it before I wrecked it, eh? Anyway, I'll be taking the one from the SDL down and getting it re-done shortly, as I know mine is shot as well -- it occasionally works some and I have tons of power and it shifts much sooner and smoother, etc, but by and large it's inert. I suspect it's long past a simple rebuild kit, my SIL ran it out of oil after bashing the oil pan on a railroad track. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Other than a Prius, what is the cheapest used electric car I can get for my 15 mile RT commute? On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah right, I've got a bridge to sell you. Nobody I know with a Prius that drives an extensive highway commute gets 45mpg, 35-40 is the norm. -Curt From: archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius Prius get 40 to 45 mpg minimum on the highway. Plug-in Prius gets 95 mpg combined city and highway. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymodel/2012_Toyota_Prius.shtml Gerry On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:46:20 -0500 Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A Prius for me would be a problem, I do way too much open road driving, where they get 22mpg. Takes a lot of gasoline to haul that huge battery down the highway for half an hour with no regenerative braking. They do great in town, but not so good long distance. My uncle likes his, bought it when they first came out, but he hasn't driven outside suburban conditions for decades. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8194 - Release Date: 09/11/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 turbo rebuild
So is rebuilding it. R/R is a lot less labor intensive, and you can quickly determine whether the used part works or not. I have had good luck purchasing used turbos. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A cheap used one is always a gamble. IIRC Peter has a 124 300D, perhaps an '87 at that. Does the '87 use a special turbo different than the other 124 300Ds? -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 turbo rebuild Why rebuild? Other that for a 1985, it's smarter to purchase a cheap used.one. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Lol, my brother just spent $780 to get the turbo out of the wrecked 300D fixed, they had to bore out the housing and install oversized bearings it was so worn. Guess I should have replaced it before I wrecked it, eh? Anyway, I'll be taking the one from the SDL down and getting it re-done shortly, as I know mine is shot as well -- it occasionally works some and I have tons of power and it shifts much sooner and smoother, etc, but by and large it's inert. I suspect it's long past a simple rebuild kit, my SIL ran it out of oil after bashing the oil pan on a railroad track. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 turbo rebuild
My experience with used parts is that if they're not broken, they won't break. I should point out that my annual highway mileage is quite low, however. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: So is rebuilding it. R/R is a lot less labor intensive, and you can quickly determine whether the used part works or not. I have had good luck purchasing used turbos. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A cheap used one is always a gamble. IIRC Peter has a 124 300D, perhaps an '87 at that. Does the '87 use a special turbo different than the other 124 300Ds? -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300td 1982 turbo rebuild Why rebuild? Other that for a 1985, it's smarter to purchase a cheap used.one. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Lol, my brother just spent $780 to get the turbo out of the wrecked 300D fixed, they had to bore out the housing and install oversized bearings it was so worn. Guess I should have replaced it before I wrecked it, eh? Anyway, I'll be taking the one from the SDL down and getting it re-done shortly, as I know mine is shot as well -- it occasionally works some and I have tons of power and it shifts much sooner and smoother, etc, but by and large it's inert. I suspect it's long past a simple rebuild kit, my SIL ran it out of oil after bashing the oil pan on a railroad track. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
I've never leased a car before. What are th costs? On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: An electric would be perfect for that distance. I'd lease a Leaf since its a real 4 seater and can be had for about the same price as a Smart. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Nah, I'd get too sweaty. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I hadn't noticed the RT when I read the post originally. With that in mind a bicycle is indeed the absolute best choice. Considering where Andrew is he'd easily get 8 months of riding in each year. If you're worried about being sweaty in the morning get one of those electric assist bikes. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius Bike! --R On 9/11/14 10:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Other than a Prius, what is the cheapest used electric car I can get for my 15 mile RT commute? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
I was a rear seat passenger in a Prius in Massachusetts a few years ago. Didn't much care for the busy dash lights and obstructed rear view. I would love to get a Leaf but used ones at a decent price are hard to find On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 2:37 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Here's a little documentation on the Prius C (city car) as well as the standard Prius. http://priuschat.com/threads/real-world-highway-mpg-75-85-mph-speeds.131591/#axzz3D1oYth4e http://www.hybridcars.com/forums/showthread.php?99010-the-real-Prius-gas-mileage/page2s=aa218f2f49a790ff49a0fc9e9f6b49f2 On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 11:42:15 -0500 Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: All hybrids get worse long distance highway milage than the equivalent sized non-hybrid because you have an undersized engine dragging a huge battery with little or no regenerative braking -- when do you lift your foot completely off the gas on the interestate? That means you use battery power on upgrades and then have to recharge it, and you get NO recovery of energy by regenerative braking (which is where the high milage comes from, not the hybrid nature of the drive train). The weight of the car, rolling resistance, and the drag coefficient are the only determinants for milage on the highway once the battery is fully charged, and milage will drop to the low 30's or less, often to the mid 20's. Stop and go driving they will top 50, but then my brother's Jetta TDI tops 50 on the highway without the battery and all the other crap. Mid 40s in town, same as my 300d -- milage is only slightly different between highway and mixed suburban. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8194 - Release Date: 09/11/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] multi-purpose stalk on '84 300D
Huh? Wazzat? On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 7:05 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: check the fuse for the Optical Horn. cheers! e On 11/Sep/14 15:11, G. M. Brown via Mercedes wrote: Anyone have any testing clues as the headlight flashing (squeezing) function doesn't seem to work? It used to work, now all other functions of this stalk do work. TIA G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] commuting by bicycle
The most pragmatic approach would be to ride to the bus stop, put the bike on the bus' front rack, ride 5 miles to the bike path, and then ride the 9 miles from there to my office opposite Nationals Park. BTW, I boldly predict that the Nats will win the World Series to the shock and dismay of all baseball pundits, none of whom takes the team seriously. On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:00 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew could best answer that, but i was thinking he's in the DC area, and if he's going into the office in Foggy Bottom, i don't recall much around there that's not flat. (even places like Capitol Heights and Oxon Hill aren't more than a couple-hunnert feet elevation. you can get closer to 400' out toward Bethesda, but that's on the far end of the commute range he described.) yes, i recall some of the hills in that part of the world can be short and fairly steep, but modern bicycle gearing goes so low that it makes easy work of those; Granny Gears are your friend. Sit and Spin!;-) (disclaimer; my perspective may admittedly be a bit skewed; i can hardly do a recreational ride around here of over an hour or 2 that doesn't involve a couple thousand feet of climbing. i've been doing this for fun since i started on Extended Touring bikes carrying all my camping gear, so i'm pretty comfortable with Granny.) all that said, if someone's got to wear the PA Ave uniform to work, this admittedly might not work in the high temps and humidity that that area is plagued with. i used to deal with a similar situation by driving in once or twice a week to carry office clothes in, so i could ride in the rest of the time in something more cycle-friendly. cheers! e On 12/Sep/14 03:19, John Reames wrote: I don't know whether his commute is flat or not. I have a 9.3 mile commute, which sounds nice and easy, but then you look at a topo map... In mine, the peak elevation is 397ft, the lowest is 59ft. In the first 2-2.5 miles, there is a single rise of 150ft in 0.2 miles distance, followed by a drop of 75ft in 0.1 miles, followed by a rise of 75ft in 0.1 miles. The rest of the morning commute doesn't have any rises over about 55ft, and is basically downhill to the end at 62ft of elevation. A nice relaxed 9.3 mile bike ride. BTW, If driving an electric car is drinking the [green] Kool-Aid (not to be confused with flavoraid of Jonestown fame), then at least the smart ED is proper German [green] Kool-Aid. (And for bonus points, http://www.forbes.com/pictures/ehmk45mgef/1-smart-fortwo-electric-drive/ ... For those times when you really want to annoy people with a greener-than-thou attitude.) -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net mailto:jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Sep 11, 2014, at 17:01, ernest breakfield via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: just ride easier. that kind of distance is an easy twiddle of the pedals; i do further than that in work clothes frequently (albeit not in a full suit), even when i have meetings, and don't arrive significantly sweatier or any less presentable than i usually am,... cheers! e On 11/Sep/14 10:39, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Nah, I'd get too sweaty. On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I hadn't noticed the RT when I read the post originally. With that in mind a bicycle is indeed the absolute best choice. Considering where Andrew is he'd easily get 8 months of riding in each year. If you're worried about being sweaty in the morning get one of those electric assist bikes. -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto: mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com mailto: astrasfo...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius Bike! --R On 9/11/14 10:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Other than a Prius, what is the cheapest used electric car I can get for my 15 mile RT commute? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All
Re: [MBZ] ChowdahQ 2014
When is lobster season in Maine? On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: “LawbtstahQ” Get it right --R On 9/13/14 9:22 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes wrote: PS: Dimitri and I are thinking of having a “Q” between our houses in Maine. We’ll call it , and the entire list will be invited. Details to follow. Jon On Sep 13, 2014, at 9:20 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: All, I just want to say what a great time I had today meeting with all of the attendees. It’s truly a great group of people. The food was fantastic, (Thanks Kurt and very one else) and I look forward to being there in 2015! Jon Agne ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Old crash pics
Back in 1990, I rear ended a Lexus in my 1971 300SE L 3.5 sedan while driving my 11 yo son to school - totally my fault. It bent the frame but we were both unhurt. Total repair cost was $3,700, covered by insurance. Lexus repair to the rear bumper and associated sheet metal amounted to $1500. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I suspect that a side slide into a pole like that at high speed would be lethal in just about any vehicle. A few years back, I saw a Ford Aerostar van in a junk yard that had taken a hard hit on the passenger side just behind the front door. I have no idea what it hit or what hit it, but I was surprised by the damage. The intrusion went almost all of the way to the other side of the van. I would not have wanted to be a passenger in the back part of the vehicle. RB On 14/09/2014 11:01 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: Scroll down the comments for some of an old Benz wrapped around a pole. Scary stuff http://jalopnik.com/crash-photos-from-the-beginning-of- motoring-are-stunnin-1634373883 --R ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Binding brakes
My money is on the calibre. On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Whatever you do, don't loose you're break petal! --R On 9/14/14 10:53 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: Feel how hard it is to turn the wheel. Slightly unscrew the hose at the caliper to release pressure. Then see if the wheel turns easier. Easier to use the bleed screw. Only three possibilities I'm aware of: Binding calipers. Deteriorating hoses. Bad release valve in MC. Make sure the brake pedal comes all the way up! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Proving that CL MB sellers aren't the ONLY ones on crack...
ATTABOY! for Hendrik On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 11:43 PM, Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Perhaps if someone is looking to create a wreck on their railroad? However this beats it, I think http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/ eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=181520747247 Hendrik who should auction off his old receipts instead of throwing them out On 15/09/14 11:04, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/181523868256 -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Old crash pics
I never heard of these stickers. Why wouldn't my 123 diesels qualify for one? On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: All good reasons to go by your dealer and get your Rescue Assist stickers for cars newer than 1990. Just put mine on the S420 yesterday. I feel safer already. Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 15, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Back in 1990, I rear ended a Lexus in my 1971 300SE L 3.5 sedan while driving my 11 yo son to school - totally my fault. It bent the frame but we were both unhurt. Total repair cost was $3,700, covered by insurance. Lexus repair to the rear bumper and associated sheet metal amounted to $1500. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I suspect that a side slide into a pole like that at high speed would be lethal in just about any vehicle. A few years back, I saw a Ford Aerostar van in a junk yard that had taken a hard hit on the passenger side just behind the front door. I have no idea what it hit or what hit it, but I was surprised by the damage. The intrusion went almost all of the way to the other side of the van. I would not have wanted to be a passenger in the back part of the vehicle. RB On 14/09/2014 11:01 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: Scroll down the comments for some of an old Benz wrapped around a pole. Scary stuff http://jalopnik.com/crash-photos-from-the-beginning-of- motoring-are-stunnin-1634373883 --R ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak gone?
Your oil has gelled. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:32 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Your oil level is now down below the pan gasket? Have you checked the oil level? Gerry dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I run Mobil 1 5W40 in my 82 240D. I have been doing so for the 5 or so years that I've owned it. It has always had a pretty significant oil leak as evidenced my a mess on my driveway. The past couple of weeks the oil leak seems to have stopped! How can this happen? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8216 - Release Date: 09/15/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] commuting by bicycle
I drive every day to the Red Line, then take two subways to work. On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm sure there is a metro stop or two near that park, why not use the metro? Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] At least one good choice
My son wants to give me his Miata but there's no room for it in the garage. Maybe if I surplus one of my wagons... On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I will admit I never drove one with the top up but I don't remember having the top of the windshield getting into my line of sight. Not for everybody I'm sure but very fun little cars. -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] At least one good choice But if you're over six feet in height you can't fit in a Miata. Sent from my iPad On Sep 16, 2014, at 10:05 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nay my friend the early Miata is a British sports car you can drive without having to stop and pick the electrons off the road to keep it running. They fit like a glove and zip right along, a worthy partner to a 126 although he's picked the wrong 126... -Curt From: dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] At least one good choice They forgot to mention that the 350 is a rodbender and that the Miata is just a worthless tin can. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2014, at 9:14 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/the-ultimate-two-car-garage-for-10k-1634932769 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71
This is like one of those cliques you see at parties where three guys are engaged in animated conversation to the exclusion of everyone else, on a nerdy topic of no interest to the rest of the gathering. I feel like telling them to take it outside. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I echo what Hendrik wrote. Where's the Mercedes content? On Sep 16, 2014 11:54 AM, Addison Thompson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Just to clarify, an AR-15 is often defined as a carbine, a short-barreled rifle. AT On Sep 16, 2014, at 5:00 AM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com Subject: [MBZ] OT Re: Subject: Re: N assault Date: September 15, 2014 8:53:55 PM PDT To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com And why are you stirring up emotions about this? This list has argued the point many times about weapon classification and usually it ends up in a somewhat heated debate. The article http://www.wral.com/homeowner-shoots-intruder-in-vance-county-break-in/13638825/ states a AR-15 rifle was used, which would suggest a full size weapon. It may well have been a carbine version but we don't know that for sure. Hendrik who owns no weapons be they for assault or defence, hmmnh perhaps in this case they could have called it a defence rifle, perhaps retreat rifle On 16/09/14 10:48, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Carbine? No no no, he used an ASSAULT RIFLE!!! If your local media had correctly identified the AR-15 as an ASSAULT RIFLE, Al Sharpton and CNN and all the rest could have breathlessly reported and agitated and stirred up the righteous we know better than you crowd, and distracted us all from the ballooning federal debt and the miserable economy and the creeping inflation of our fiat currency... Just think of the blue-state fund-raising opportunities that were missed! Max Dillon, ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Daimler
That is one visually impressive car, although I've never sat in one. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The negative effect on Mercedes is pretty foolish... at least in suggesting that Chrysler had their hand at engineering Mercedes. But Chrysler received a large amount of Mercedes technology in many forms. Interior controls, suspension, transmissions, even entire car platforms (The crossfire was based on the old R170 SLK , which came out around the same time as the R171). Its pretty obvious if you sit in a Chrysler 300, for example. Jaime On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It seems most are of the opinion that when DBAG bought Chrysler, it had a negative effect on MB autos. Do you think the reverse is true? Were Chrysler products improved in the early 2000's because of there association with Daimler? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71
If I had to choose between tripe and beef liver I would really stress out. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: my kid loves tripe and eats it by the pound On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Tripe. I love that word. On Sep 16, 2014, at 10:17 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I guess I should be more specific more permissive. I would like to stop what you call political tripe not apple trees or BMW. Yes I can delete IF listers use correct headings. My question is why should I have to. DAN- Mr moderator What do you say? On Sep 16, 2014 10:05 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Original Message From: Dwight Giles via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 8:23 PM To: Hendrik and Fay; Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Dwight Giles Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71 I AM trying to stifle discussion that is not MB or car related and is just political rants of any persuasion. I joined this list in 2002 for Mercedes content. Rant off. While not car related, I do enjoy occasional apple tree discussions, woodworking discussions, tractor discussions, generator discussions, etc. There is a vast wealth of knowledge here on this list and to limit the topics to Mercedes only would be stifling to the transference of intelligence and information to all. I could live without the occasional political tripe, but I overlook it, because of the abundance of good intellectual conversation on other subjects. I need to finish cleaning out my garage, so I can work on these old Mercedes, and buy some parts from Jabba. (MB content.) Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71
Should have beenn bologna despite what spellcheck thinks. On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:36 AM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Balogna -- Sent from myMail app for Android Wednesday, 17 September 2014, 01:16AM -0400 from Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: Original Message From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:21 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Reply To: Greg Fiorentino Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71 Actually, the discussion was mainly about nomenclature of an AR-15, and whether it is properly called a carbine, a rifle, or an assault rifle. Actually, firearms are much closer to Mercedes content than are apple trees; since they are both the pinnacle of mechanical technology of their time. I'm not opposed to discussing hardware, be it small arms, watches, washing machines, iPhone, or Mercedes. Just don't mix in emotion, and or politics. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71
Not to date myself, but that was the default spelling when I was growing up. Baloney might be more appropriate in this case as it conveys my intent without even a hint of ambiguity. On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 1:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: How about baloney? Dan On Sep 17, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Should have beenn bologna despite what spellcheck thinks. On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:36 AM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Balogna -- Sent from myMail app for Android Wednesday, 17 September 2014, 01:16AM -0400 from Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: Original Message From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:21 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Reply To: Greg Fiorentino Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71 Actually, the discussion was mainly about nomenclature of an AR-15, and whether it is properly called a carbine, a rifle, or an assault rifle. Actually, firearms are much closer to Mercedes content than are apple trees; since they are both the pinnacle of mechanical technology of their time. I'm not opposed to discussing hardware, be it small arms, watches, washing machines, iPhone, or Mercedes. Just don't mix in emotion, and or politics. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT but food for thought
I am not a raging militarist, but how can we turn our backs on the barbarism that is ISIS? On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 14:02:09 -0400 WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: THE TRAGEDY AND THE WALL By Wilton Strickland, Lt Col, USAF (Ret) Not a silly Sondy tale, but thank you, Wilton. We had conducted the most intense bombing campaign ever against the most heavily-defended complex in history. I was confident that the campaign was over, that it had been won and that the war was finally ending as we departed Hanoi for the last time. During the following two years, however, after US forces had withdrawn, Congress gave away what had been so dearly won. And we are about to get into another situation like Vietnam and Afghanistan. Years ago, we trained the mujhadeen in Afghanistan to fight for us. What did that get for us? Hardened adversaries using our weapons and training against us. In Syria, training and supplying the rebels to do our fighting for us has all the hallmarks of both Vietnam and Afghanistan. With as loose and convoluted things are among the Muslim in the mid-East, it is very likely the weapons we provide will be used against our troops or Israeli troops. In trying to take a short cut for a quick, easy solution -- no American boots on the ground -- we are setting ourselves up for even more long-term grief in the mid-East. Even North Vietnam’s military commander, Gen. Vo Nguyen Giap, agreed with me “What we still don’t understand is why you Americans stopped the bombing of Hanoi (in Dec ‘72). If you had pressed us a little harder, just for another day or two, we were ready to surrender! It was the same at the battle of TET in ’68. You defeated us! We knew it, and we thought you knew it. But we were elated that your media was helping us. They were causing more disruption in America than we could on the battlefields. We were ready to surrender. You had won!” General Giap merely confirmed what many Americans already knew. The Vietnam War was not lost on the battlefields in Vietnam — it was lost at home by public opinion and given away by Congress. And there it is. The media were and still are against the best interests of the American people. They are only interested in keeping themselves and their cronies in power. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Beef liver (was Re: Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71)
I prefer to think of the Schmoo rather than slaughterhouse techniques, when eating beef liver. Shmoos are delicious to eat, and are eager to be eaten. If a human looks at one hungrily, it will happily immolate itself — either by jumping into a frying pan, after which they taste like chicken http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taste_like_chicken, or into a broiling pan, after which they taste like steak. When roasted they taste like pork, and when baked they taste like catfish. (Raw, they taste like oysters http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oyster on the half-shell.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shmoo On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 3:57 PM, John Reames via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I was under the impression that a non-penetrating captive bolt gun was the best way to ensure that no nervous system tissues entered the bloodstream, with the idea being to further reduce the chances of BSE entering the food supply... -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Sep 17, 2014, at 1:50, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Recipes? What is your preferred caliber for harvesting cows? Calves? Max Dillon, Charleston SC Pushing it again, lighten up people! On Sep 17, 2014 12:18 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If I had to choose between tripe and beef liver I would really stress out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] What abut this?
wondering about the condition of the interior... Also, 280S is NOT fun to drive - better to wait for an SE On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sure, I can't see any obvious rust and it may be a low K example that wasn't driven much and spent it's life under cover. The only way to really tell what it's like is to have a look. The thing is if it is a very good original example you should keep it so and not drop in a better engine. Not sure how well it would go in modern traffic and it will want to have a big drink at the servo every now and then but if it is a bit of a project/weekend cruiser, then yeah. Really depends what you want in the way of the 108/9, this one may fly under the radar as it is not a V8 or a 109. Hendrik who would look at that if he was in the market for one On 18/09/14 11:46, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Looks nice From The outside ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] We interrupt your politics to talk about: A car!
B2 piston - whazzat for? On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nice. Now what about the Chicken Wagon? :) Still needs a B2 piston. (Probably.) It might end up being my winter beater, which means that I'd need to get it running again! My indy's window for engine swaps (Frankenheap) is in the January timeframe. Not useful for this year... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] - Politics
Chairman Mao: What was the context of that clever remark? On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: henifay wrote: Pitting the pawns against one another to keep the King safe. NICE!! mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT but food for thought
Where do you reside? My top down government won't take my trash out. On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Scott wrote: Still a great essay from the Colonel. ... ...Thanks to two big oceans, relatively peaceful neighbors north and south, and a half-century American age of relative world peace... Our fine borders have not been tested. Not even close. Some suggest some buildings in NYC was a test, others challenge that suggestion. Given a challenge, I suggest that our neighborhoods will stand when push and shove begin. Talk about fat lazy people, I suggest the boroughs in Europe were fat lazy when storm-troopers marched there. Here? - the fundamental only means is as WILTON quoted from General Diem or whomever - media has turned away from a free expression in to pure indoctrination that demands and indoctrinates us to be unwilling to do what is needed with and for each other. Rather, we are willing to let the top down government do everything. Somehow, I suggest that while most neighborhoods are currently dysfunctional, most neighborhoods would defend and deny storm troopers regardless of ethnicity. Additionally, most neighborhoods desire diversity of ideas rather than be like we are told about ISIS. I am skeptical of the stories of ISIS. And... I don't think anyone here has bad thoughts about the WILTON tome - thanks WILTON!! mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: GRILLE badges
I think ALL the grille badges must be shipped at the same time, because I received my 250K km badge in the mail yesterday too! Unfortunately, the car has 294K MILES, so I feel cheated... On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Thanks. Got confused. Dan Sent from my iPad On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:35 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 08:49:42 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Craig, Nothing in the hold queue. Did you send them? Dan It was Dwight who was saying he had pictures but wasn't sure they would be allowed. So all he needs to do now is to send them to the list. Craig On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:15 AM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 22:02:40 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sorry Hendrick. Back to aliens. I do have photos of both my badged grilles but not sure listmom will allow.. Just attach them to an email and Dan will approve the email when he notices it. He's been pretty good about that. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. Craig -- Present:'95 E320Sebastian 127 kmi '82 240D/3.0Bluebell 267 kmi (need to fix leaking oil pressure gauge) '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (affectionately dubbed the BRV, Big Red Van) Past: '94 E420Oskar 127 kmi '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '64 190Dc Emma '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Value of 04 E320 Wagon?
My favorite question is What would it take to make the car PERFECT? That way, you know every flaw. On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 8:30 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I didn't get to ask that - we had a appt to get to. Also, it has been on that same lot for at least a month, maybe 2 - so something is wrong or he's asking too much and won't bargain. I hope to test drive it = perhaps the tranny or brakes have a problem to be sitting for so long IMO. Yes, Dwight, I plan to dicker. ;-) Thanks again Guys LarryT On 9/19/2014 7:15 PM, OK Don wrote: Does it have the maintenance records? On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 5:54 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Stopped and looked at a champagne e320 Station Wagon with 134K Miles and absolutely flawless paint. Not even any chips. My wife is smitten and can't stop talking about it which would be great if it were a diesel ;-) Anyway, the small used car shop is asking $13,500 with his financing and $11,800 cash. Thx LarryT 91 300D 78 240D -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, /The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers/ 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Window Regulator Replacement
Talk about a counterproductive improvement... On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: REgulator is one thing, window motor is another. Has to be programed at the dealer so the computer knows which one to operate when you push the switch Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT: The 10 Happiest Countries
Spoiler alert: USA is no. 14 Some in the top 10 I found hard to believe. http://www.care2.com/greenliving/the-top-10-happiest-countries.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: The 10 Happiest Countries
I love starting provocative threads, then sitting back and reading the amazing diversity of thoughtful responses. On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Good point, but he couldn't really get the concept. Figured if their ancestors had been brought here against their will, then they would also share the idea and would want to go back to their homeland, wherever, if they could. Or why if we (meaning white people, I guess they sorta saw themselves as white, or some sort of Asian that was not Chinese, whom they had VERY little regard for) had trouble with them we wouldn't send them packing back to where they had come from. They were genuinely curious about the whole deal, could not really figure it all out. I wonder how it will work out for them as they were dropping off their daughters here (one at Wake Forest) to go to school. Wonder if the kids will be looking to go back home once they get a taste of Merka. Might be too much for them though. --R On 9/21/14 12:25 PM, WILTON wrote: 'Course they don't go home, cause, like the rest of us, they were born and raised here, so they ARE at home. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The 10 Happiest Countries She tells me that they also require travel passes to go on the roads and cross from one jurisdiction (something like a county) into another, and have checkpoints all over to inspect vehicles and your papers to make sure no undocumented visitors are involved. They apparently have a strong dislike to anyone who is not Bhutanese or a visitor paying their visitation fees and spending money. Our visitors here had a fascination with black people, and the fact that there were so many living among us all. They had some very interesting ideas in that regard. I tried to explain that many of our neighbors were Gullah folk and they were having a really hard time wrapping their heads around that idea. When I told them that their ancestors were brought here from Africa with no say in the matter, he wondered why they didn't go back, or we didn't just send them back. A practical question I suppose, somewhat difficult to fully explain. There was one black family in his town, recent immigrants from somewhere in Africa, they were apparently quite a curiosity. Unclear how or why they were there. --R On 9/20/14 10:00 PM, Mountain Man wrote: --R wrote: ...My wife tells me they are extremely assertive about keeping out or closely regulating anyone who might want to go there. Seems like a nice place. Sounds like a much better policy than open borders - we have open borders, don't we? A shift to Bhutan ways might seem too restrictive for freedom fascists, probably. It works there, why not elsewhere? ma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 420 SEL
What would a used engine transplant cost? The car is awesomely pretty and might be worth the investment since at some future time this model might be deemed a classic. The 420SEL OTOH has zero upside potential. On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Agreed. There's got to be some attachment or emotion involved, or they're blinded by the tristar and have unrealistic ideas of its value. There's a 3400 mile 1991 500SL on BW right now. The owners, an older couple who bought the car new, went for a drive and found the car had a head gasket leak, which was due to a failure of the metal on the block at the edge of one of the cylinder bores. Only fix is new engine or tear down the existing one and weld/machine the block. Needless to say it's a big chunk of change for either. They're trying to sell it now, quoting the original sticker price, etc., without much activity other than people politely telling them they're nuts. http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r129-sl-class/1502707-items-sale-wanted-trade-29.html#post10146785 Dan On Sep 22, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Yeah, but a Chevy dealer and about 90 miles away in a small town with no one likely to be very knowledgeable about MB so not easy to do. My guess, for what it is worth, is that the car maybe belonged to the owner of the dealership or his wife, or father etc. It just seems odd to me that they have sat on it at the same price for at least 6 months. That sort of says to me that they have a personal interest in it or they would have just sent it to the auction long ago. Randy On 22/09/2014 11:59 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: It's a dealer, which explains the price. Get a PPI if you're interested. Dan On Sep 22, 2014, at 12:56 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/winnipeg/1987-mercedez-benz-420-series/454304279?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1980 Mercedes 300sd DIESEL w116
Would be tempting but for the fact that the seller doesn't seem to know that these are TURBOdiesels... On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Pair of 116's anyone? Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.1980 Mercedes 300sd DIESEL w116 http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/4678149780.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The Diesel Story
He was such a genius - and a great loss to have died so young (together with Belushi and Gilda Radner).. On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: andy said no such thing! On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Meh, Andy Kaufmann said those guys are fakes. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Sep 23, 2014 2:22 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGoQWNElahg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] turbo update 82 300td
Whiney transmissions can go on and on too... On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Karl W via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Then mine (85 tdt) has been bad for the last 100,000 miles. Who knew? Drives fine and is not slow. I am planning to put an hx30 on there anyway so maybe it was meant to be. On Sep 12, 2014 7:00 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If you can actually hear the turbo whine and the air cleaner is installed, you have a bad turbo (unless you have a leak between turbo and intake -- check the 0-ring). MB turbos are usually silent, unlike the Volvo, where it sounds like a police siren a couple blocks away. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] multi-purpose stalk on '84 300D
Remove and reinstall after cleaning - should do the trick. On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Karl W via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Thanks sorry I just reposted on this same topic but multiple stalk functions are down incl wipers, optical horn, washer pump, left turn signal. Will try to rehab it with corrosionx. On Sep 12, 2014 3:31 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes, these can be brought back to life with a good cleaning. On my 123 wagon, I removed the stalk and took it apart for cleaning, to restore the wiper function. End cap can be pried off. On my 124 sedan, the optical horn contacts are at the base of the stalk. Didn't have to remove it, just pop off the cover at the base and spay deoxit on the revealed contacts. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Sep 11, 2014 6:26 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Usually corroded contacts. If you can see them, spray them down with DeOxit or some other contact cleaner and cycle them a while, usually clears up the problem. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] AC Bummer
While we're at it, did you hear that hogwash about the earth not being flat? On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Craig via Mercedes wrote: Anthropomorphic Global Warming is a bogus scare intended to take from some people and give to others. Those scientists who support it are on the lucrative take. Better watch it or Bobby Kennedy will sic a SWAT team on you: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/388595/robert-kennedy- jr-aspiring-tyrant-charles-c-w-cooke (Or did you just forget the :-) above?) I thought the sarcasm was obvious in Dan's post. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Becker BE 1480 Cassette plays but the silence is deafening
I bought an as is Becker 1480 AM/FM cassette on ebay for my 1983 300TD. The unit is in pristine condition. AM and FM stations work perfectly and the cassette loads/ejects/switches tracks/fast forwards and reverses when a tape is inserted; however, there is NO SOUND when a tape is playing! (The tape works fine in my other car). I have tried pushing the CR and Dolby buttons but they have no effect. Any ideas what might be the cause of this problem? As usual, TIA. Andrew 1983 300TD 1985 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Having fun with malicious people
I don't get it. On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 2:50 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: When I was in High School there was a guy with the unfortunate name of Lynn Burger. Too bad his parents couldn't see how he would suffer from the obvious connection kids make with names.. LarryT On 9/27/2014 11:12 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 19:50:20 -0400 archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I haven't seen limburger or liederdranz soft-ripening cheeses in store for years. They were both very smelly. Shirley relates that her grandmother, with whom she was raised, ate limburger cheese. In one grocery store, shortly after we were married, I found a package of limburger cheese. I could smell it throught the wrapper! It smelled like a dirty garbage can. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
How could Bosch be Chinese? On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Gary wrote: if they are going to go chinese and not pass on any of the savings to the end user, then what kind of people are they? What kind of people are they? They are just another Mitt Romney or Bruce Rouner. Astounding that we continue to laud and honor and desire these type of people. We need to support people that are around us with values and lives and bank accounts that look like us. We need to push these billionaires to the back of the bus in all ways. All deals that look good for our wallet are deals that are bad for us. Categorically!! insert banned closing here ma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Having fun with malicious people
I've eaten it once in my longish life. On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew wrote: That would not work in the east. Nobody eats or has even heard of Limburger around here... (DC - mid Atlantic) Say it ain't so. ma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?
And the Chinese-made sub 40 below $40C Canadian Tire boots kept my feet toasty in the dead of Winnipeg winters. On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I am wearing chinee work boots right now, this is maybe my 3rd or 4th pair, I get a coupla years out of them and with the addition of gel inserts they are reasonably comfy. $50 is good enough. The chinee dog food did kill my dog some years ago. --R On 9/29/14 1:55 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote: yeah, they work good. except when they don't. those chinese shoes from walmart sometimes work too. but i'm still wearing alden's. and their dog food doesn't kill your dog right away every time either and it really works for a long time till fido gets that cancer. i mean, it could have been second hand smoke that did him in? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Preservation class
Attaboy! On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: What's a preservation class certificate? Dan On Sep 29, 2014, at 7:41 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Postman just delivered the MBCA preservation class certificate. Nice enough. Has a picture of the car and all. Seems I have not buggered it up beyond salvation in the past three years. Now I just have to get it running properly. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Grosser
Since when is brown the color of luxury? All shades of brown and tan are IMHO plebeian. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://jalopnik.com/forget-the-maybach-the-600-is-the- ultimate-mercedes-be-1640468490 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Grosser
Your obvious is, as always, my obscure. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I must resist from making the obvious statements in regard to your observation. --R On 9/30/14 11:27 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Since when is brown the color of luxury? All shades of brown and tan are IMHO plebeian. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://jalopnik.com/forget-the-maybach-the-600-is-the- ultimate-mercedes-be-1640468490 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Grosser
Well, I learned something today - thanks. I still dislike browns and beiges in Mercedes, although my 1971 300SE L 3.5 (national MBCA concours winner) was tobacco brown because didn't want to spend the extra $700 to change the color to my favorite - moss green metallic.. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 11:27:32 -0400 To: richthomas79td...@constructivity.net; mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Grosser From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Since when is brown the color of luxury? All shades of brown and tan are IMHO plebeian. Since around about the turn of the twentieth century. Some of George Pullman's rail road cars were the height of luxury travel, and they were painted Pullman Brown. The actual reason they were painter brown it is said, is because brown doesn't readily show dirt as much as other colors. Today’s UPS package cars are that same Pullman Brown. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Grosser
As in Champaign, IL? On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: ... Or champaign. Dan driving the S420 Land Yacht Sent from my iPad On Sep 30, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Ed Booher via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Plebians! All of you! The only color for a Mercedes is Silver! EdB On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Brown is the natural color of wood and leather. Don't you like wood and leather in your car? However, I agree that in an expensive sedan, brown doesn't say luxury to me. I'd much rather have a dark blue or black or grey. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Sep 30, 2014 11:27 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Since when is brown the color of luxury? All shades of brown and tan are IMHO plebeian. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Das beste oder nichts. - *Gottlieb Daimler* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Becker BE 1480 Cassette plays but the silence is deafening
They say that your favorite Brahms symphony is always the last one you hear.. On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Tim Crone via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Sep 29, 2014 7:44 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: http://www.ramseyelectronics.com/b/6290123011 not portable but probably could be used 12VDC? Now that is cool. Looks like it is powerful enough to squash annoying radio stations for quite a distance, from the reviews. The cheap ones are just adequate to broadcast within the car. Thanks for the link! Next time some guy with a gangsta radio drives by I will think how much fun it would be to rebroadcast Brahms on his wavelength. I am curious what Andrew found in his experiments. I suspect we chased him out of his own thread. :) Thanks, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OIL THREAD
LOL. Very funny. On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 10:12 AM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Apparently, it's a group dynamic that we can discuss Mercedes, war, politics, religion, and old age, but there are some personal rough spots that can not be lubricated with oil.. Perhaps, a good round of Irish agricultural products, well aged, would be more lubricating... or.. as an Irish friend of mine said, coming upon a group of men fighting ... Is this a private fight, or can anyone join in... ;)) Grant... On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 12:20 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dwight Giles wrote: Well I knew I'd regret starting an oil thread. All I wanted know was about mixing dino M1 as I topped off the 6i7 with synthetic forgetting I had not changed it over yet to M1.. ___ Based on the totality of the oil discussion, Hitler would not have approved the mixing of synthetic and dino oil. Hope this helps. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Selling 1983 300D Help dertemining price!
Depends on the color. A desirable color will get you an additional 25 % ove blue book. On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: maybe shoot for 2500 as the weather is getting winter and someone figures he'll worry about AC later but i just don't know. jaime would know On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Tim Crone via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'd lean toward $2k depending on the rust. Last year when I bought my TDI I found that you couldn't get much car for $1500 anymore. About the lowest price I saw for anything running and driving was $2,000. Definitely all about location. I would expect that car to list between $800 and $1500 in NC, unless you happen to hit upon a hobbyist. I would expect sale price to be about $1000. ...Not that it matters, because you're in New York. Really what I have to say is that it is probably worthwhile to adjust the valves again, if the engine is quieter your buyers might not be so skittish. Also, the AC will start to blow ice cold here in a few weeks, so there's an advantage... :) Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Grosser
Oh yeah, almost forgot. Randy's mittlerot (medium red) W115 300D is an awesome display as well. Is dark red the same color code? On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I’m partial to MB color 542. Dark red. On Oct 1, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sparkling Wine or Fizzy Wine --R On 9/30/14 11:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Gruet is the best domestic champagne under $30. Made from grapes grown in Elephant Butte, NM, south of Albuquerque. Founded by a French champagne house which searched all over the USA for the best place to plant their grapes. Turned out to be not CA, but NM! On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You could have champaign with your desert! I'd like mine superchilled and then used to make an ice cream float! m! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Becker BE 1480 Cassette plays but the silence is deafening
Curt, I totally sympathize. What gets me is the use of speakerphone from the other end of the corridor - I can barely hear it, and it drives me nuts. All work grinds to a halt. On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I had a co-worker who sat on the opposite side of the cube wall from me who liked whiney folk music. She'd play it from the PC speaker quiet enough I could barely hear it. As much as I don't like whiney folk music it was worse because I could only barely hear it. I offered her my headphones, I even offered her my speakers. Finally the day before Christmas I stole the audio cable from the CDROM drive to the sound card. She didn't find out for 3 or 4 days. When she did she sent an email to the whole company I know who you are and I will get you for messing with my computer! She got an HR action. While she was in the meeting with HR (this is why you don't send threatening emails to the whole company) our boss came over and asked me not to do that again. A couple weeks later she was back at it so this time I cut all the paper out of the speaker. She in turn stole the power cables from everything in the cube of the guy to my left... She got to pursue other opportunities after that. -Curt From: Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2014 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Becker BE 1480 Cassette plays but the silence is deafening On Wed, 1 Oct 2014 06:45:11 -0400 Tim Crone via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Next time some guy with a gangsta radio drives by I will think how much fun it would be to rebroadcast Brahms on his wavelength. I did something like that while working at Hewlett Packard in Colorado Springs. The folks on the production line, some distance away from my desk, would play the rock music on their radios rather loudly, so I got an RF signal generator and an audio signal generator. I made a dipole antenna about 5' long with a BNC connector and some wire and connected that to the output of the RF signal generator with some RG-58 BNC cables. I connected the output of the audio signal generator to the FM input of the RF signal generator and set it for 1 kHz. I then tuned the RF signal generator until I heard a raucous 1 kHz tone (I overmodulated the RF signal generator compared to the FM standard), at which point the radio was turned down. One time after having done that, I went to talk with the guy with the radio. I said, I'd like to make a deal with you. The guy perked up. So I said gently, Would you please turn your radio down? The guy was very cooperative and did turn down the radio. One of his coworkers then said, So what's the deal? I said, If you will keep the radio turned down, I won't jam it again. I had no more problems. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Becker BE 1480 Cassette plays but the silence is deafening
People, Either solve my cassette problem (preferable) or change the subject line! On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It sure could if someone ratted him out. Not going to happen in our department - we're IT Security. We're in a sequestered secured area, away from everyone else, mainly because of the work we do and the things we work with. Dan sh On Oct 1, 2014, at 7:46 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 17:58:12 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm saying that he even discusses personnel matters over the speakerphone - and he never closes his door. That could land him in legal trouble ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Preservation class
Fly me in - will travel anywhere! On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 9:24 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: And where do you have your car judged? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 1, 2014, at 6:18 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: MBCA is trying to promote not buggering up old cars. This is a new promotion that allows you to have the car looked at in a concours sort of manner to verify condition and that it is being kept sort of pure. You get leeway for headlights, some other stuff. As long as you score above 75%, you get a nice framable certificate. Come back each year to show you are still a good person worthy of owning a Benz clay On Sep 29, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: What's a preservation class certificate? Dan On Sep 29, 2014, at 7:41 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Postman just delivered the MBCA preservation class certificate. Nice enough. Has a picture of the car and all. Seems I have not buggered it up beyond salvation in the past three years. Now I just have to get it running properly. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Grosser
I have som spare 123 PW motors I could probably part with. They will cost you even less than the purchase price of your new car! On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sounds good to me. If you can get it tuned up it should be a good vehicle for you. RB On 02/10/2014 10:27 AM, MG via Mercedes wrote: Well not so much. $725 but given that these are getting harder to find I guess it's not that bad. Manfred Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 20:40:46 -0400 From: Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com Awesome! No rust is the biggie, all the rest is easy, given time and simple tools. I suspect the price was nice... Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Lawsuit: White woman gets black man's sperm by mistake Ooops
What if the reverse had happened? Would the sperm bank demand a surcharge? ;) On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Van Knutson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Black Donor Sperm Mistakenly Sent to White Mom Jennifer Cramblett: Suit - NBC News Black Donor Sperm Mistakenly Sent to White Mom Jennif... A white Ohio mom is suing a sperm bank for sending her vials from a black donor, saying her biracial 2-year-old daughter will be stigmatized by her family ... View on www.nbcnews.com Preview by Yahoo They've made the one mistake a sperm bank can't make. It's not like she was ordering pizza. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Lawsuit: White woman gets black man's sperm by mistake Ooops
What if the black daddy were RGIII, trying to raise money while in high school by selling his sperm? On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: It would be hilarious if it were black men and she didn't realize that might cause her to have a biracial baby. I didn't notice at first that the kid is 2... -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Van Knutson southpaw0...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2014 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lawsuit: White woman gets black man's sperm by mistake Ooops On 02/10/2014 2:38 PM, Van Knutson via Mercedes wrote: Black Donor Sperm Mistakenly Sent to White Mom Jennifer Cramblett: Suit - NBC News Black Donor Sperm Mistakenly Sent to White Mom Jennif... A white Ohio mom is suing a sperm bank for sending her vials from a black donor, saying her biracial 2-year-old daughter will be stigmatized by her family ... View on www.nbcnews.com Preview by Yahoo They've made the one mistake a sperm bank can't make. It's not like she was ordering pizza. Just wait for a bit. In a couple of days, the news folks will announce that she has admitted she was having sex with a black man. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Lawsuit: White woman gets black man's sperm by mistake Ooops
Speaking of daily ebola death reports... If you live in the Dallas area, be afraid... VERY afraid... http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/texas-ebola-patient-thomas-eric-duncan-may-have-had-contact-with-up-to-100-people/2014/10/02/1a36f7aa-4a37-11e4-891d-713f052086a0_story.html?wpisrc=nl-eveamp;wpmm=1 On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:50 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Not likely. She like the softer sex, and it was a sort of typo error. She got knocked up, married her girl friend, and was so excited by the whole thing, that they requested some more baby batter so the spouse could spurt forth a sibling. The batch they were supposed to get was #380. The black guy is #330. When they got ahold of the spooge store, the idjit with the file figured out the mistake. The error has taken a bit to wend its way through the legal system to the point the media got wind of it clay On Oct 2, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: On 02/10/2014 2:38 PM, Van Knutson via Mercedes wrote: Black Donor Sperm Mistakenly Sent to White Mom Jennifer Cramblett: Suit - NBC News Black Donor Sperm Mistakenly Sent to White Mom Jennif... A white Ohio mom is suing a sperm bank for sending her vials from a black donor, saying her biracial 2-year-old daughter will be stigmatized by her family ... View on www.nbcnews.com Preview by Yahoo They've made the one mistake a sperm bank can't make. It's not like she was ordering pizza. Just wait for a bit. In a couple of days, the news folks will announce that she has admitted she was having sex with a black man. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Lawsuit: White woman gets black man's sperm by mistake Ooops
Dallas, Dulles. What a difference a vowel makes... On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Had a long layover in Dulles, start taking your temperature every four hours please Andrew... Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Oct 2, 2014 6:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Speaking of daily ebola death reports... If you live in the Dallas area, be afraid... VERY afraid... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 123 windshield gaskets
Next time try a smaller rock. On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:03 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Jaime, Is that program special, different from what an aftermarket installer would get? A couple years ago a Pilkington windshield was installed in my '95 sedan, and a month ago a rock strike cracked it. Seems to me that replacement windshields just aren't as strong as the originals, or maybe the installation was poorly done. I watched the guy install it, seemed like a very professional job, but I'm no expert. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Oct 3, 2014 6:37 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Check out Pilkington classic glass program if you end up needing a windshield. They sold me a Sigla glass for my w108 at a reasonable price recently... About $300+shipping. Jaime ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Lawsuit: White woman gets black man's sperm by mistake Ooops
There was nothing in the news reports that I saw about his flight stopping at Dulles. Where did you see that? On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yes Sent from my iPhone On Oct 2, 2014, at 11:37 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: have you ever seen dallas from a DC-9 at night? or maybe even dulles? On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:55 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dallas, Dulles. What a difference a vowel makes... On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Had a long layover in Dulles, start taking your temperature every four hours please Andrew... Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Oct 2, 2014 6:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Speaking of daily ebola death reports... If you live in the Dallas area, be afraid... VERY afraid... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Hey! Curt.
My 1985 CA version 300TD was equipped with the same transmission as a 190E in that year. On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Would the trans from your parts 190D fit or would a turbo trans be geared wrong? I can deliver it right to your house now that I've got the big pickup... :) -Curt From: Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2014 6:35 PM Subject: [MBZ] Hey! Curt. Hey! Curt.Looks to have a better body than the red one.1984 Mercedes 190 DIESELhttp://boston.craigslist.org/nos/pts/4683082488.html Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] TD
The 1980 models were non-turbos. I know because I test drove a bunch of 300TDs prior to finding my first 1983 300TD wagon. The first US model turbos were the 1978 300SD W116 sedans. W123 turbos were first offered in US version 1981 model 300D sedans, 300CD coupes, and 300TD wagons. Andrew 1983 300TD about to install 4 new tires :) 1985 300TD with year-old Kumhos On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: May be turbo, I think the wagons had turbo engines one year before the sedans. '78 (day one) in the SD '81 in the TD '82 in the D and CD '84 in the Continental Mark VII (2.4L BMW turbo, more powerful than a 617.95x, less reliable than ANY Mercedes diesel) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Lawsuit: White woman gets black man's sperm by mistake Ooops
Don't mess with me. The Nats just lost to the SF Giants 3-2. My world is a very sad place. On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 6:59 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: is he ovulating? clay On Oct 2, 2014, at 6:09 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Had a long layover in Dulles, start taking your temperature every four hours please Andrew... Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Oct 2, 2014 6:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Speaking of daily ebola death reports... If you live in the Dallas area, be afraid... VERY afraid... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] First New resident of Okie Acres
I used to think that way... in fact, my first 300D lacked the AC belt... On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That looks mighty tempting! Too bad it doesn't have a manual transmission and euro headlights. I love the AC needs belt description. Sure, you betcha! Belt just fell off, nobody needs AC in Dallas, all the new owner needs to do is put a belt on it and that AC will be blowing ice cold Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel
Mileage? On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I believe. On Oct 5, 2014 9:57 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nice! Its fun to tell non-believers about a long trip in an older car. My coworkers are amazed that we did a 1500 mile trip last summer in my '98 Jetta. I imagine they'd never believe you did 1200 in an '82... -Curt From: Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2014 8:40 PM Subject: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel Folks I went on another jaunt in the 82 300td that we recently reattached the mini folds on and rebuilt the turbo and replaced the oil pan and turbo drain seals etc. Left friday afternoon for washington dc hauling a load of valuable paintings and prints from a recent art show here. Went to somewhere in the shenandoah valley, fri nite (maybe harrisonburg). Slept in a crummy motel fri nite. Got going about noon went to DC and dropped the art. Left DC about 6 pm in a mess of traffic saturday. I intended to stay with a friend in richmond, but he was fighting with his wife or something, so he met me at the interstate in richmond about 8.30 pm (actually the bus station, right off of i-95 where i gave him a couple of HIS paintings that were in the show, then i decided to push on to athens, ga …. only about another 480 miles. I reached athens about 5.30 am. I ran about 62 to 72 mph indicated (depending on speed limits). I was dragging a trailer the entire way and hauling about 60 gallons of WVO on that since the car was full of art. So yesterday i ran about 750 miles all at the speed limit on WVO dragging a trailer. The car used no oil and all i did on the 1200 mile round trip was check the oil a few times And i was paid a pile of $$ for the trip. thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com www.letterpressmachinery.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 300td travels mileage on WVO
Well, ATTABOY for arriving home safely. On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I don't really know my mileage my odometer doesn't work right ….. it occasionally adds a mile altho the speedo is fine. started out full, went about 1200 miles according to google, maybe 1240 miles I hauled 12 X 5 gals of wvo but all weren't accurately filled … some full, some down an inch or two I came home with 5 gals and the tank would probably need 7 or 8 gals to fill, so about 63 gals for 1250 miles 20 mpg …. it's probably a little better, but i was going fast and dragging a trailer it usually seems like i get about 25 mpg something may be wrong with my computations …. tank may have been down 10 gals at the start thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] TD
A properly sorted 1983 300TD will accelerate and handle like a modern car, gasoline engines included. On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Sun, 5 Oct 2014 21:35:41 -0500 Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Max wrote: ...A little slow off the line, but once you got rolling it was a pleasure. Ours is an '83 also, and if you push hard, it will leave stop quite well. I put it in low and shift up manually rather than the sometimes quick upshift, which is doggy. Yes, that is the way to make a 240D/auto (which is how our's started its life) perform. When you do that, it does work pretty well. Just make sure you DO NOT downshift manually into low when coming to a stop. If you do it at the speed the transmission wants to be in second and then slow down some more, the transmission will slam into first, causing the car to lurch and stress to be put on the innards of the transmission. Do that enough times, and the transmission will break deep inside. That's why we now have a 240D/3.0 with a stick shift -- a rebuilt auto tranny was $2500. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] new fix on new/old TD
Because that's the correct way! Look it up. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm seeing it too, rando m s paces when Andrew writes SL C. -Curt From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com; Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.net Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] new fix on new/old TD Must be your end Craig, Andrew's emails look fine too me. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Surgery [was: Re: R-12 versus R-134]
Percocet is the Dom Perignon of pain medication. I relied on it for both my rotator cuff surgeries, L and R, 11 years apart On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Resist the urge to go cold turkey off those powerful pain meds. Silly me, after I had both knees replaced at once I decided I could handle the pain and wanted to be off the drugs. You need to taper off or you will feel really sick. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley via Mercedes Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 1:37 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Surgery [was: Re: R-12 versus R-134] Craig via Mercedes wrote: P.S. I didn't experience the old saw with my neck surgery because I was on an on-demand morphine drip -- too far tripped out to notice or care! The nurse forced two Hydrocodone/Acetaminophen on me an hour and a half after I woke up. Is this like Tylenol 3? It's a lot stronger Let's start with one then You get two I never noticed ANY difference from taking that stuff. It hurt before she gave it to me, it hurt the same after. And there I was thinking that with Laparoscopy I wouldn't have much post-surgery pain. Even the little incision hurts like crazy when I stand totally erect which puts a little tension on it. Right now, just sitting here, the repaired hernia is what hurts. Slightly more than the hernia itself ever did without the narcotics. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] new fix on new/old TD
Mercedes coffee table books, service manuals and any other OFFICIAL Daimler Benz publication. I would send a link except I can't track any down. Also, try looking on the trunk lid of the car itself: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/4700485168.html Andrew Trying to hide a smug grin On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Mon, 6 Oct 2014 20:29:08 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Because that's the correct way! Look it up. Where? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The first car in the shop
What is it? Looks quite generic except for the fog lights, which bespeak a W115 On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image1.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 126256 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20141004/e74315a9/attachment.jpe -- next part -- -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image2.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 121057 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20141004/e74315a9/attachment-0001.jpe -- next part -- Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
