Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Electric cars are gay. Sorry to sound so ignorant and unsophisticated but I 
truly don’t care.

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> On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:22 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> And Mercedes wants to go all electric.
> Good luck with that.
> 
> https://calcoastnews.com/2022/01/slo-climate-change-activist-heidi-harmons-electric-car-calamity/
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Quick charging decreases battery life but when you’re in a bind it shouldn’t 
matter. Part of the problem is that the demographic that buys these cars lacks 
in common sense and street smarts. They are delusional utopian morons.

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> On Jan 25, 2022, at 10:04 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> She needs to plan better. It sounds like she completely forgot what she was 
> driving and didn't plan accordingly.
> 
> The 7 hour charge time also sounds like hogwash to me. IIRC a Tesla charges 
> to 80% in something like 45 minutes at a supercharger. I don't know why she 
> was hung up on charging in San Jose but I can't believe there aren't electric 
> car chargers all over that area...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 09:58:34 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Heidi needs a timeout.
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 3:22 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> And Mercedes wants to go all electric.
>> Good luck with that.
>> 
>> 
>> https://calcoastnews.com/2022/01/slo-climate-change-activist-heidi-harmons-electric-car-calamity/
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

I have not but some car enthusiast friends have they tell me that aside from 
the fantastic acceleration, the experience is wholly insipid. One friend told 
me that it’s tantamount to getting teleported from one location to another. 
It’s for people who hate cars

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> On Jan 25, 2022, at 11:34 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Not exactly true, these are lithium batteries, a lot of the rules from lead 
> acid don't apply. The biggest issue is temperature compensation while 
> charging. This time of year the battery might actually have to be heated 
> before it can be charged. IIRC LiPo batteries can't be charged below freezing.
> Usually the batteries have to be cooled while charging to allow big energy 
> flow.
> 
> 
> Dimitri, have you actually driven an electric car? Putting aside all the 
> green-washing and smugness they are fantastic to drive. Smooth, with all the 
> power on tap immediately, quiet too.
> 
> There is an indoor go kart place in Wilmington, we should go sometime, 
> they're super fun and not unlike an electric car.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 11:21:59 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Quick charging decreases battery life but when you’re in a bind it shouldn’t 
> matter. Part of the problem is that the demographic that buys these cars 
> lacks in common sense and street smarts. They are delusional utopian morons.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 10:04 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> She needs to plan better. It sounds like she completely forgot what she was 
>> driving and didn't plan accordingly.
>> 
>> The 7 hour charge time also sounds like hogwash to me. IIRC a Tesla charges 
>> to 80% in something like 45 minutes at a supercharger. I don't know why she 
>> was hung up on charging in San Jose but I can't believe there aren't 
>> electric car chargers all over that area...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 09:58:34 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via 
>> Mercedes  wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Heidi needs a timeout.
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 3:22 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> And Mercedes wants to go all electric.
>>> Good luck with that.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://calcoastnews.com/2022/01/slo-climate-change-activist-heidi-harmons-electric-car-calamity/
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

The masses are asses. They can go drive their fake green gay electric cars. 
I’ll stick to IC!

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> On Jan 25, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately the insipid car experience is what the masses mostly want. 
> Most people aren't car people and see their vehicle as a way to get from 
> point a to point b. The car makers are just giving the masses what they want 
> mostly.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 11:57:28 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis 
>  wrote: 
> 
> I have not but some car enthusiast friends have they tell me that aside from 
> the fantastic acceleration, the experience is wholly insipid. One friend told 
> me that it’s tantamount to getting teleported from one location to another. 
> It’s for people who hate cars
> 
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>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 11:34 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> Not exactly true, these are lithium batteries, a lot of the rules from lead 
>> acid don't apply. The biggest issue is temperature compensation while 
>> charging. This time of year the battery might actually have to be heated 
>> before it can be charged. IIRC LiPo batteries can't be charged below 
>> freezing.
>> Usually the batteries have to be cooled while charging to allow big energy 
>> flow.
>> 
>> 
>> Dimitri, have you actually driven an electric car? Putting aside all the 
>> green-washing and smugness they are fantastic to drive. Smooth, with all the 
>> power on tap immediately, quiet too.
>> 
>> There is an indoor go kart place in Wilmington, we should go sometime, 
>> they're super fun and not unlike an electric car.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 11:21:59 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via 
>> Mercedes  wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Quick charging decreases battery life but when you’re in a bind it shouldn’t 
>> matter. Part of the problem is that the demographic that buys these cars 
>> lacks in common sense and street smarts. They are delusional utopian morons.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 10:04 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> She needs to plan better. It sounds like she completely forgot what she 
>>> was driving and didn't plan accordingly.
>>> 
>>> The 7 hour charge time also sounds like hogwash to me. IIRC a Tesla charges 
>>> to 80% in something like 45 minutes at a supercharger. I don't know why she 
>>> was hung up on charging in San Jose but I can't believe there aren't 
>>> electric car chargers all over that area...
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 09:58:34 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via 
>>>> Mercedes  wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Heidi needs a timeout.
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 3:22 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> And Mercedes wants to go all electric.
>>>> Good luck with that.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> https://calcoastnews.com/2022/01/slo-climate-change-activist-heidi-harmons-electric-car-calamity/
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

So how do you like your EV?

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> On Jan 25, 2022, at 2:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm with you, Dimitri, and I will go one step further. I am on the lookout 
> for a car with square Wheels that predates the Stone Age. You really get 
> tremendous Road feel in one of those.
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, 12:54 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> The masses are asses. They can go drive their fake green gay electric cars. 
>> I’ll stick to IC!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Jan 25, 2022, at 12:12 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> > 
>> > Unfortunately the insipid car experience is what the masses mostly want. 
>> > Most people aren't car people and see their vehicle as a way to get from 
>> > point a to point b. The car makers are just giving the masses what they 
>> > want mostly.
>> > 
>> > -Curt
>> > 
>> > On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 11:57:28 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis 
>> >  wrote: 
>> > 
>> > I have not but some car enthusiast friends have they tell me that aside 
>> > from the fantastic acceleration, the experience is wholly insipid. One 
>> > friend told me that it’s tantamount to getting teleported from one 
>> > location to another. It’s for people who hate cars
>> > 
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> > 
>> >> On Jan 25, 2022, at 11:34 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> Not exactly true, these are lithium batteries, a lot of the rules from 
>> >> lead acid don't apply. The biggest issue is temperature compensation 
>> >> while charging. This time of year the battery might actually have to be 
>> >> heated before it can be charged. IIRC LiPo batteries can't be charged 
>> >> below freezing.
>> >> Usually the batteries have to be cooled while charging to allow big 
>> >> energy flow.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> Dimitri, have you actually driven an electric car? Putting aside all the 
>> >> green-washing and smugness they are fantastic to drive. Smooth, with all 
>> >> the power on tap immediately, quiet too.
>> >> 
>> >> There is an indoor go kart place in Wilmington, we should go sometime, 
>> >> they're super fun and not unlike an electric car.
>> >> 
>> >> -Curt
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 11:21:59 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via 
>> >> Mercedes  wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> Quick charging decreases battery life but when you’re in a bind it 
>> >> shouldn’t matter. Part of the problem is that the demographic that buys 
>> >> these cars lacks in common sense and street smarts. They are delusional 
>> >> utopian morons.
>> >> 
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> 
>> >>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 10:04 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> >>>>  wrote:
>> >>> 
>> >>> She needs to plan better. It sounds like she completely forgot what she 
>> >>> was driving and didn't plan accordingly.
>> >>> 
>> >>> The 7 hour charge time also sounds like hogwash to me. IIRC a Tesla 
>> >>> charges to 80% in something like 45 minutes at a supercharger. I don't 
>> >>> know why she was hung up on charging in San Jose but I can't believe 
>> >>> there aren't electric car chargers all over that area...
>> >>> 
>> >>> -Curt
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>>> On Tuesday, January 25, 2022, 09:58:34 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via 
>> >>>> Mercedes  wrote: 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> Heidi needs a timeout.
>> >>> 
>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 3:22 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>> >>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> And Mercedes wants to go all electric.
>> >>>> Good luck with that.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> https://calcoastnews.com/2022/01/slo-climate-change-activist-heidi-harmons-electric-car-calamity/
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> Rick
>> >>>> 

Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

A niche car for the emasculated male.

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> On Jan 25, 2022, at 11:44 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Still a niche car.  Do the math.  Panels may be OK to recharge while you are
> at work on a sunny day but they can't keep up while driving.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?
> 
> Tesla has finally come out or will soon with an EV with solar panels on the
> roof so you can drive almost indefinitely, in theory.
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 3:39 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I thought I saw something the other day that said new Pioi were PIHs 
>>> but maybe I misread.  I don't know what MB's plans are in that regard.
>> 
>> I thought MB announced plans for their passenger autos to be 100% BEV 
>> by
>> 2025 or 2030? I'm not sure but maybe they are still planning some 
>> hybrid models.
>> 
>> Several Euro countries are demanding this, as well as a few states in 
>> the US (California mandating zero-emission (a/k/a remote emission) 
>> cars by 2035).
>> 
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[MBZ] Garage heating options

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

I need to get heat in my garage. It is roughly 24x54 and located in midcoast 
Maine. The ceiling is well insulated, most walls are 2x4 but some are 2x6 and 
they are/will be insulated. Height to peak of vaulted ceiling is 26 feet for 
most of it with exception of a small area that has lower ceiling. There will be 
two bathrooms. One on ground floor and one in partial loft. Loft will be open 
to the rest of the garage so essentially one big open space minus bathrooms. 
Thinking of small electric baseboard units in bathrooms.

I’m getting differing opinions, some people say Modine with either propane or 
natural gas and others say heat pumps. I’m still waiting on a couple of heat 
pump contractors to give me their opinions. Any thoughts?

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Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Forgot to mention 5 garage doors all insulated. All windows double pane.

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> On Jan 26, 2022, at 9:52 AM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> 
> I need to get heat in my garage. It is roughly 24x54 and located in midcoast 
> Maine. The ceiling is well insulated, most walls are 2x4 but some are 2x6 and 
> they are/will be insulated. Height to peak of vaulted ceiling is 26 feet for 
> most of it with exception of a small area that has lower ceiling. There will 
> be two bathrooms. One on ground floor and one in partial loft. Loft will be 
> open to the rest of the garage so essentially one big open space minus 
> bathrooms. Thinking of small electric baseboard units in bathrooms.
> 
> I’m getting differing opinions, some people say Modine with either propane or 
> natural gas and others say heat pumps. I’m still waiting on a couple of heat 
> pump contractors to give me their opinions. Any thoughts?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Yes but is a heat pump or mini split suitable for my specific garage scenario?

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> On Jan 26, 2022, at 10:39 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am pretty much a heat pump believer. Even during the coldest months with 
> some days it running almost non stop for a day at a time our highest electric 
> bill is maybe $250. With natural gas the gas bill would probably be close to 
> that plus another $100-$150 electric bill. 
> 
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>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 8:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The nice thing about heat pumps is you essentially get AC "for free". Where 
>> you are they should be good for all but the coldest nights. Since you're 
>> talking electric heat in the bathrooms anyway (I'd say drain one of them for 
>> the winter) then let the place go cold on those really cold nights to save 
>> $$.
>> 
>> Alternately get the wells sunk to do a geothermal heat pump and use them for 
>> both the house and garage but that's a big  upfront cost...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 09:52:34 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via 
>> Mercedes  wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> I need to get heat in my garage. It is roughly 24x54 and located in midcoast 
>> Maine. The ceiling is well insulated, most walls are 2x4 but some are 2x6 
>> and they are/will be insulated. Height to peak of vaulted ceiling is 26 feet 
>> for most of it with exception of a small area that has lower ceiling. There 
>> will be two bathrooms. One on ground floor and one in partial loft. Loft 
>> will be open to the rest of the garage so essentially one big open space 
>> minus bathrooms. Thinking of small electric baseboard units in bathrooms.
>> 
>> I’m getting differing opinions, some people say Modine with either propane 
>> or natural gas and others say heat pumps. I’m still waiting on a couple of 
>> heat pump contractors to give me their opinions. Any thoughts?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Why didn’t you opt for mini splits in your garage?

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> On Jan 26, 2022, at 10:33 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I bought a Reznor UDX 75,000 BTU natural gas heater for my 24’ x 30’ three 
> car garage in Flagstaff. A local had a brand new one in the crate they bought 
> but ended up not needing. I think it was around $1100 retail, I offered them 
> $700 cash and they took it.
> 
> My exterior walls are 2x4 with roll insulation and a vapor barrier. Doors are 
> composition and don’t seal well (I can see light around them when inside with 
> the lights off) but I’ll be addressing that. Lastly, I’ve got to drywall the 
> 14’ ceiling joists (ugh!) so I can put insulation up there, then it should be 
> pretty tight. I’ve got to get a quote from my insulation guys, not sure if 
> I’ll just do batts/roll insulation or have them do blow-in. I’m not sure it’s 
> worth the money to do blow-in since it won’t be heated year-round.
> 
> Winter climate isn’t too much different from where you are other than it gets 
> into the teens and occasionally single digits at night - but - days can 
> easily “warm” to the 40s-50s.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 9:51 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I need to get heat in my garage. It is roughly 24x54 and located in midcoast 
>> Maine. The ceiling is well insulated, most walls are 2x4 but some are 2x6 
>> and they are/will be insulated. Height to peak of vaulted ceiling is 26 feet 
>> for most of it with exception of a small area that has lower ceiling. There 
>> will be two bathrooms. One on ground floor and one in partial loft. Loft 
>> will be open to the rest of the garage so essentially one big open space 
>> minus bathrooms. Thinking of small electric baseboard units in bathrooms.
>> 
>> I’m getting differing opinions, some people say Modine with either propane 
>> or natural gas and others say heat pumps. I’m still waiting on a couple of 
>> heat pump contractors to give me their opinions. Any thoughts?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Does it dehumidify even while in heating mode?

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> On Jan 26, 2022, at 10:52 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a minisplit in my garage and find it to be great solution.  The
> initial goal was heat, but the AC is a real luxury.  The dehumidifying
> feature is also really useful in early spring
> 
> Jaime
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> 
>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 10:43 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes but is a heat pump or mini split suitable for my specific garage
>> scenario?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 10:39 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am pretty much a heat pump believer. Even during the coldest months
>> with some days it running almost non stop for a day at a time our highest
>> electric bill is maybe $250. With natural gas the gas bill would probably
>> be close to that plus another $100-$150 electric bill.
>>> 
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>>> 
>>>> On Jan 26, 2022, at 8:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The nice thing about heat pumps is you essentially get AC "for free".
>> Where you are they should be good for all but the coldest nights. Since
>> you're talking electric heat in the bathrooms anyway (I'd say drain one of
>> them for the winter) then let the place go cold on those really cold nights
>> to save $$.
>>>> 
>>>> Alternately get the wells sunk to do a geothermal heat pump and use
>> them for both the house and garage but that's a big  upfront cost...
>>>> 
>>>> -Curt
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 09:52:34 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I need to get heat in my garage. It is roughly 24x54 and located in
>> midcoast Maine. The ceiling is well insulated, most walls are 2x4 but some
>> are 2x6 and they are/will be insulated. Height to peak of vaulted ceiling
>> is 26 feet for most of it with exception of a small area that has lower
>> ceiling. There will be two bathrooms. One on ground floor and one in
>> partial loft. Loft will be open to the rest of the garage so essentially
>> one big open space minus bathrooms. Thinking of small electric baseboard
>> units in bathrooms.
>>>> 
>>>> I’m getting differing opinions, some people say Modine with either
>> propane or natural gas and others say heat pumps. I’m still waiting on a
>> couple of heat pump contractors to give me their opinions. Any thoughts?
>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Maybe I figured out why the ML ended up at copart

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Is cps replacement easy and affordable?

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> On Jan 26, 2022, at 4:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> Just got it home, fired it up and unloaded it off the trailer. Drove it a 
> mile up the road and back and it seems fine. Got it home and shut it off. 
> Tried to restart it and just cranks. Tried again it fired for a second then 
> that was it. Does have a check engine light. I’m betting CPS. Appears it was 
> traded in at a dealer. They probably didn’t want to mess with it. Otherwise 
> the engine appears nice and dry contrary to the GL. Does have a little side 
> swipe damage. Looks like they replaced the RF door but the rest they left 
> which is not that bad.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

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I had a heating contractor who specializes in mini splits come today. He feels 
that I need 2 20K btu units for the ground floor and one 15K btu unit for the 
open loft and with their own compressors so three single zone units. He 
estimated $18,000-20,000. Seems pricey.

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> On Jan 27, 2022, at 6:11 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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> 
> The downside is a typical concrete garage or shop floor is a lot of mass. 
> Unless you use the shop often enough to justify keeping it heated all the 
> time, you'll need to start heating it hours (at least) in advance -- maybe 
> the night before. If you get a sudden unplanned opportunity for some shop 
> time, you'll be cold. On the upside, the heat will be very steady and 
> comfortable, with no drafts.
> 
> Also if you are doing this as new construction, you'll want insulation under 
> the concrete pad, so you aren't trying to heat the earth underneath.
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, at 6:02 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
>> Heated floor is the way to go, takes less heat to stay warm and you 
>> don’t get condensation of the floor in the spring.
 On Jan 27, 2022, at 2:40 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If I were building a shop from scratch, I would put hydronic heating in the 
>>> concrete floor, with an OWB (outdoor wood boiler) and natural gas or 
>>> propane boiler backup. Even if the shop is 45 degrees, a warm floor would 
>>> make a world of difference.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Sent: January 27, 2022 2:22 PM
>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options
>>> 
>>> Electric space heaters are 100% efficient at -40F.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

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So I’m paying 8-10K for labor and warranty. Wow!
I’m looking into mrcool units. A complete 18K unit set up for DIY with a 
warranty runs $2K. I wonder how good these are.

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>  wrote:
> 
> The units with parts needed (linesets, etc) would run about $9-10k
> wholesale for all three units (I got some Fujitsu quotes recently).  The
> rest of the money is labor and the warranty.  This is why I installed my
> own... I figured the warranty wasn't worth it.  I bought all the pro tools
> needed, which didn't cost all that much.  I'm going on 8 years since
> installing my first unit, still going strong.  I think the warranty would
> have been 7 years.
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 6:20 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I had a heating contractor who specializes in mini splits come today. He
>> feels that I need 2 20K btu units for the ground floor and one 15K btu unit
>> for the open loft and with their own compressors so three single zone
>> units. He estimated $18,000-20,000. Seems pricey.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 27, 2022, at 6:11 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The downside is a typical concrete garage or shop floor is a lot of
>> mass. Unless you use the shop often enough to justify keeping it heated all
>> the time, you'll need to start heating it hours (at least) in advance --
>> maybe the night before. If you get a sudden unplanned opportunity for some
>> shop time, you'll be cold. On the upside, the heat will be very steady and
>> comfortable, with no drafts.
>>> 
>>> Also if you are doing this as new construction, you'll want insulation
>> under the concrete pad, so you aren't trying to heat the earth underneath.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, at 6:02 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
>>>> Heated floor is the way to go, takes less heat to stay warm and you
>>>> don’t get condensation of the floor in the spring.
>>>>>> On Jan 27, 2022, at 2:40 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> If I were building a shop from scratch, I would put hydronic heating
>> in the concrete floor, with an OWB (outdoor wood boiler) and natural gas or
>> propane boiler backup. Even if the shop is 45 degrees, a warm floor would
>> make a world of difference.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rick
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>>>> Sent: January 27, 2022 2:22 PM
>>>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>>>> Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options
>>>>> 
>>>>> Electric space heaters are 100% efficient at -40F.
>>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Curt will need all his snow machines

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I don’t think your Airbnb guests will appreciate the cameras!

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> On Jan 28, 2022, at 2:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Because I want to know the exact temperature it got to at my place, 
> especially if it's got an indoor sensor too. At some point if we start doing 
> the Air B&B thing I'll need to keep the heat on all winter and knowing the 
> inside temp would be quite valuable.
> 
> Same for the cameras, even in the shorter term having a couple cameras to 
> keep an eye on the joint seems like a good idea.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
> On Friday, January 28, 2022, 01:39:50 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Why a bunch of gadgetry you need to buy and maintain? Just check one of the 
> numerous online weather sites for the relevant zip code.
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2022, at 12:21 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Thanks, Bob! Or you can watch the traffic heading north.
>> 
>> I’ve been looking at this recently:
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.com/sainlogic-Professional-Internet-Wireless-Wunderground/dp/B08G1GR9NJ?ref_=ast_sto_dp
>> 
>> I like the WeatherUnderground integration so I can monitor things remotely.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> On Jan 28, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I can poke my head out the door and look, but I can’t see that far away.
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 28, 2022, at 10:01 AM, dan penoff.com via 
>> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Exactly. I want to be able to monitor the Chez Penoff West remotely if 
>> possible. I’ve already got cameras in place but would like to have 
>> environmental monitoring if possible.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> On Jan 28, 2022, at 11:57 AM, Curt Raymond 
>> mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Good question. I'm thinking it'd be cool to start monitoring the 
>> northern estate remotely. Mitch posted that hotspot the other day, with 
>> a weather station and a camera I'd be all set.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Friday, January 28, 2022, 11:49:30 AM EST, dan 
>> penoff.com via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> On that subject, I’ve been trying to find a good home weather station 
>> that I can monitor remotely. Any chance he has a recommendation or if 
>> anyone here has one?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> On Jan 28, 2022, at 11:46 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> The VP of the snowmobile club is a weather nut. He's predicting 18+" 
>> but as usually he says "I'll tell you totals when its all done".
>> 
>> With him we usually play buzzwords bingo, my favorite is "Euro model".
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> On Friday, January 28, 2022, 11:42:53 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel 
>> mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Interesting. In the DC area they are ratcheting up the forecast to 
>> 1-3".  I'll be driving back from Annapolis at 7:30 PM in my 4 matic 
>> SUV, right into the teeth of the storm.  Hope the snow is still light 
>> at that time.
>> 
>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 11:30 AM Curt Raymond 
>> mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>> I'm about 70 miles west of Boston. At this point the National Weather 
>> Service is saying a 60% chance of 5-10"
>> Weather Channel is very excited and saying 99% chance of 8-12"
>> 
>> So basically, if could do anything, it could snow snakes...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> On Friday, January 28, 2022, 10:43:23 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via 
>> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> *A possibly historic storm is headed toward New England; accumulation in
>> some spots may be staggering*
>> The strong winds headed our way along the coastline have prompted a
>> blizzard warning in some places, and winter storm warnings in others,
>> together covering much of southern New England. Indications are that the
>> storm will come close enough to the coast to produce heavy snow inland, but
>> it’s east of Worcester the real jackpot is likely to occur. When all is
>> said and done, it won’t be surprising if some spots see 3 feet of snow
>> within one of those heavy bands.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Curt will need all his snow machines

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Stinkin massholes

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> On Jan 28, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> 
> 
> 
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>> On Jan 28, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> *A possibly historic storm is headed toward New England; accumulation in
>> some spots may be staggering*
>> The strong winds headed our way along the coastline have prompted a
>> blizzard warning in some places, and winter storm warnings in others,
>> together covering much of southern New England. Indications are that the
>> storm will come close enough to the coast to produce heavy snow inland, but
>> it’s east of Worcester the real jackpot is likely to occur. When all is
>> said and done, it won’t be surprising if some spots see 3 feet of snow
>> within one of those heavy bands.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Curt will need all his snow machines

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Airbnb is a massive pita. I was a slave to my cottage when I was renting during 
summer. Have to provide first class service to get good reviews. People started 
getting needier and needier, pickier and pickier and more and more 
disrespectful as the years went on starting to treat like a hotel vs your home. 
Unless you hire a vacation rental manager, it’ll ruin your summer.

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> On Jan 28, 2022, at 5:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Maybe someday. The farm pays the taxes on the new farm but there is still 
> insurance and of course the old farm which is more than half the land.
> 
> It'd be awesome to have the place pay for itself. I'd only need to get it 
> rented a couple weeks a year. It'll need a LOT of work before that happens 
> though.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Friday, January 28, 2022, 03:21:30 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> Curt, is your B&B for the Maine property?
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 2:52 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Exactly.
>> 
>> I had a very important and expensive shipment from FedEx arriving at the
>> Flagstaff house today. Because of automation I was able to see when it
>> arrived, that the driver didn’t bounce it down the driveway, and that they
>> followed the delivery instructions and placed the box inside the front
>> door/vestibule where it’s out of sight.
>> 
>> Likewise, if the youngest son is away I want to know that the house is
>> being properly heated/cooled to prevent any damage.
>> 
>> Furthermore, I have a lot of nice and very expensive tools in my garage.
>> I’ll know if any of the doors are opened, when, and by whom. I can also see
>> the activity that’s taking place inside if necessary, too.
>> 
>> I'm no gadget freak, but I have a substantial investment in my homes that
>> I want to manage and protect. Keeping track of the environmental conditions
>> in and around it are part of that.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Because I want to know the exact temperature it got to at my place,
>> especially if it's got an indoor sensor too. At some point if we start
>> doing the Air B&B thing I'll need to keep the heat on all winter and
>> knowing the inside temp would be quite valuable.
>>> 
>>> Same for the cameras, even in the shorter term having a couple cameras
>> to keep an eye on the joint seems like a good idea.
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Why a bunch of gadgetry you need to buy and maintain? Just check one of
>> the numerous online weather sites for the relevant zip code.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Curt will need all his snow machines

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Pussified electric lawn equipment like pussified electric cars. My neighbor in 
Maine bought one of those gay battery powered lawn mowers and it quit running 
after a few cuts. Had to save his pansy ass with my big boy Deere tractor. Ayuh.

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> On Jan 28, 2022, at 6:18 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> I initially bought a 3HP, 21” electric one when we first moved to southeast 
> WI. That lasted one season, not even the whole season, before I got a “real” 
> IC powered 30” blower with tracks, shield, hand warmers, the whole monty. I 
> did, however, get a b*dass 10GA arctic rated extension cord when I got the 
> electric one. I still have the cord, and it’s great for power tools. No 
> voltage drop whatsoever.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 28, 2022, at 6:11 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> In GWN the kids are too pampered to bother with shoveling.  Could be due to 
>> parents having power tools.   SWMBA got a 300cc, 30inch two stage monster 
>> Troy Bilt for the property when she moved up.  Many of the neighbors are now 
>> sporting puny battery powered 21inch machines.  Quiet, but not that good for 
>> accumulations.   I will run the big thing down the sidewalks and clear the 
>> mass mailbox station.  Also hit a few of the driveways of the older gals who 
>> have not contracted with plow operators.
>> 
>> clay 
>> 
>> I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.
>> 
>> 
>> 
 On Jan 28, 2022, at 9:35 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is that a thing still? Kids shoveling drives and walks for money? 
>>> We always had money as kids; mow in summer, shovel in winter. But, of 
>>> course, never charge the elderly neighbors. 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Curt will need all his snow machines

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I know, I remember those cheapo plug in electric machines. Don’t get me wrong, 
I do my part to take care of the earth, but I don’t cave to the whims of the 
greenie weenie hypocrites and their fake green feel good virtue signaling 
antics. 

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> On Jan 29, 2022, at 6:01 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> This was in 1988, long before any EV stuff was around. No effort to save the 
> Earth, I was just being cheap.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 29, 2022, at 3:30 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Pussified electric lawn equipment like pussified electric cars. My neighbor 
>> in Maine bought one of those gay battery powered lawn mowers and it quit 
>> running after a few cuts. Had to save his pansy ass with my big boy Deere 
>> tractor. Ayuh.
>> 
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>>>> On Jan 28, 2022, at 6:18 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I initially bought a 3HP, 21” electric one when we first moved to 
>>> southeast WI. That lasted one season, not even the whole season, before I 
>>> got a “real” IC powered 30” blower with tracks, shield, hand warmers, the 
>>> whole monty. I did, however, get a b*dass 10GA arctic rated extension cord 
>>> when I got the electric one. I still have the cord, and it’s great for 
>>> power tools. No voltage drop whatsoever.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 28, 2022, at 6:11 PM, Clay via Mercedes  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> In GWN the kids are too pampered to bother with shoveling.  Could be due 
>>>> to parents having power tools.   SWMBA got a 300cc, 30inch two stage 
>>>> monster Troy Bilt for the property when she moved up.  Many of the 
>>>> neighbors are now sporting puny battery powered 21inch machines.  Quiet, 
>>>> but not that good for accumulations.   I will run the big thing down the 
>>>> sidewalks and clear the mass mailbox station.  Also hit a few of the 
>>>> driveways of the older gals who have not contracted with plow operators.
>>>> 
>>>> clay 
>>>> 
>>>> I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 28, 2022, at 9:35 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is that a thing still? Kids shoveling drives and walks for money? 
>>>>> We always had money as kids; mow in summer, shovel in winter. But, of 
>>>>> course, never charge the elderly neighbors. 
>>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Curt will need all his snow machines

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Gas powered saws don’t exist under $100

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> On Jan 29, 2022, at 12:11 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The claim that the new stuff is pretty good. Certainly cordless tools have 
> come a long long way in the last 10 years. We've got a Harbor Freight 
> electric chainsaw at camp and it's really good. Better than any gas powered 
> saw under $100.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
> On Saturday, January 29, 2022, 06:01:34 AM EST, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> This was in 1988, long before any EV stuff was around. No effort to save the 
> Earth, I was just being cheap.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 29, 2022, at 3:30 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Pussified electric lawn equipment like pussified electric cars. My neighbor 
>> in Maine bought one of those gay battery powered lawn mowers and it quit 
>> running after a few cuts. Had to save his pansy ass with my big boy Deere 
>> tractor. Ayuh.
>> 
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>>>> On Jan 28, 2022, at 6:18 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I initially bought a 3HP, 21” electric one when we first moved to 
>>> southeast WI. That lasted one season, not even the whole season, before I 
>>> got a “real” IC powered 30” blower with tracks, shield, hand warmers, the 
>>> whole monty. I did, however, get a b*dass 10GA arctic rated extension cord 
>>> when I got the electric one. I still have the cord, and it’s great for 
>>> power tools. No voltage drop whatsoever.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 28, 2022, at 6:11 PM, Clay via Mercedes  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> In GWN the kids are too pampered to bother with shoveling.  Could be due 
>>>> to parents having power tools.  SWMBA got a 300cc, 30inch two stage 
>>>> monster Troy Bilt for the property when she moved up.  Many of the 
>>>> neighbors are now sporting puny battery powered 21inch machines.  Quiet, 
>>>> but not that good for accumulations.  I will run the big thing down the 
>>>> sidewalks and clear the mass mailbox station.  Also hit a few of the 
>>>> driveways of the older gals who have not contracted with plow operators.
>>>> 
>>>> clay 
>>>> 
>>>> I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 28, 2022, at 9:35 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is that a thing still? Kids shoveling drives and walks for money? 
>>>>> We always had money as kids; mow in summer, shovel in winter. But, of 
>>>>> course, never charge the elderly neighbors. 
>>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Curt will need all his snow machines

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If you truly cared about the environment you’d use a manual push mower! 

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> On Jan 29, 2022, at 12:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a 2 year old Snow Joe rechargeable 20" electric mower that does the
> entire back 40 twice on a single charge.  Never gives me any trouble.  I
> have also extended my life expectancy at least 4.6 seconds by not breathing
> any fumes over the past few years.
> 
>> On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 12:11 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The claim that the new stuff is pretty good. Certainly cordless tools have
>> come a long long way in the last 10 years. We've got a Harbor Freight
>> electric chainsaw at camp and it's really good. Better than any gas powered
>> saw under $100.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Saturday, January 29, 2022, 06:01:34 AM EST, dan penoff.com via
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> This was in 1988, long before any EV stuff was around. No effort to save
>> the Earth, I was just being cheap.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jan 29, 2022, at 3:30 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Pussified electric lawn equipment like pussified electric cars. My
>> neighbor in Maine bought one of those gay battery powered lawn mowers and
>> it quit running after a few cuts. Had to save his pansy ass with my big boy
>> Deere tractor. Ayuh.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 28, 2022, at 6:18 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I initially bought a 3HP, 21” electric one when we first moved to
>> southeast WI. That lasted one season, not even the whole season, before I
>> got a “real” IC powered 30” blower with tracks, shield, hand warmers, the
>> whole monty. I did, however, get a b*dass 10GA arctic rated extension cord
>> when I got the electric one. I still have the cord, and it’s great for
>> power tools. No voltage drop whatsoever.
>>>> 
>>>> -D
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 28, 2022, at 6:11 PM, Clay via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> In GWN the kids are too pampered to bother with shoveling.  Could be
>> due to parents having power tools.  SWMBA got a 300cc, 30inch two stage
>> monster Troy Bilt for the property when she moved up.  Many of the
>> neighbors are now sporting puny battery powered 21inch machines.  Quiet,
>> but not that good for accumulations.  I will run the big thing down the
>> sidewalks and clear the mass mailbox station.  Also hit a few of the
>> driveways of the older gals who have not contracted with plow operators.
>>>>> 
>>>>> clay
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 28, 2022, at 9:35 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is that a thing still? Kids shoveling drives and walks for money?
>>>>>> We always had money as kids; mow in summer, shovel in winter. But, of
>> course, never charge the elderly neighbors.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> AZBob
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Re: [MBZ] Chinee authentic MB hood ornament

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Pretty sure it’s a fake. Real ones are around 50 dollars.

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> On Jan 29, 2022, at 8:36 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> 
> I bought one off eBay for $17.59 a coupla weeks ago for the 211 E500 and it 
> came today in a green box with an official looking parts sticker, said it was 
> an MB part so I guess it must be. Looks solid. I might get another one for 
> the S550 since it’s authentic Benz stuff
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Re: [MBZ] Going ape for a 2005 E 320 CDI on BAT

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This seller brings the best examples and people know it but still!

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> Looks nice, but $32K for a 17 year old car?!?
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2022, at 2:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> My jaw dropped when I saw this.
>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2005-mercedes-benz-e320-cdi-turbo-diesel-11/
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Re: [MBZ] Rusty

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If true, RIP Rusty. I bought a lot of stuff from him.

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> On Feb 4, 2022, at 11:02 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> Great guy - super honest and accountable.
> 
>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 10:35 AM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> yes so did I. sad. he was such a resource.
>> 
>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022, 8:46 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> That’s too bad. I bought quite a bit of stuff from him back when.
>>> 
>>> —FT
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 The FB days yes. About four days ago.
 
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> On Feb 4, 2022, at 5:50 AM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:
> 
> Have not heard…
> 
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>>> On Feb 4, 2022, at 4:50 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I've heard he might have passed away this week... anyone hear
>>> anything?
>> 
>> Jaime
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Re: [MBZ] 1967 W109 300SEL 2.8 - $19,000

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It’s an exhaust system.

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> On Feb 5, 2022, at 6:20 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
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> That is a very vivid blue.
> 
> WTH is a "stainless steel time valve manufacturing system" is that a 
> early-generation flux capacitor?
> 
> https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/chicago-1967-mercedes-sel-28/7442262787.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT Welder

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I try very hard to avoid Chinese made products so when I bought my tig welder a 
few months ago I went with a used Miller.
If you want a cheaper chinky chow welder then maybe Everlast is your best bet. 
They have made a name for themselves and seem to be well regarded.

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> Being in my first few weeks of stick welding class and really enjoying it 
> (and getting sorta half decent with my weld quality after burning a lot of 
> sticks) I was thinking about a machine.  I have been seeing these Yeswelder 
> products, and it looked like a coupla chinese guys were bringing one to the 
> shop to be tested out a coupla weeks ago.  (I haveyetnot seen it running but 
> will ask around).  My instructor mentioned he had put some money toward their 
> kickstarter some time ago and ended up buying 2 machines ~$500 each based on 
> that.  I'm not sure which machines he got, but I saw this multi-process 
> machine with a 30% discount bringing it to $335.72 shipped.
> 
> https://yeswelder.com/products/mig-welder-mig205
> 
> Some review vids suggest it is a decent little machine for the money.  I 
> figure for that it would be hard to go wrong for $336 so I ordered one.  
> Looking forward to getting it and trying it out.  I'll start with stick then 
> as I learn I will try the other modes.  I got a cutoff tool and a welder 
> coming!  Dangerous man!
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Re: [MBZ] GL fuel tank capacity

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Yup LGB.

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> LGB
> 
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> 
>> On 2/6/22 1:59 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Wife tends to drive home and it not occur to her to stop at sams while in 
>> town to get cheap fuel. Diesel in our podunk town tends to be a lot more 
>> expensive. Anyway had to pickup the kid and low fuel light was on. Drove the 
>> 30 miles and filed up. Pic attached. I think we might have been running on 
>> fumes. Prices seem to have gone up quite a bit in the last week. What the 
>> heck is the deal with that?
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] GL fuel tank capacity

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I love it!

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> On Feb 6, 2022, at 5:34 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
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> On 2022-02-06 17:25, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Why has crude jumped up so much?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] GL fuel tank capacity

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The answer lies in our politics.

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> Why has crude jumped up so much?
> 
>> On 2/6/2022 4:22 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:
>>> On 2022-02-06 13:59, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Prices seem to have gone up quite a bit in
>>> the last week. What the heck is the deal with that?
>> 
>> Crude went from 60s in December to 70s in January to 90s last Friday.
>> Was $87 Thursday morning, touched 93 Friday.
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Re: [MBZ] FB Rant

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They pick anything off the curb in Maine. Can’t tell you how much “garbage” I 
got rid of that way.

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> On Feb 6, 2022, at 10:07 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've done better putting a $50 sign on it and waiting for somebody to steal 
> it.
> 
> I put out an old riding lawnmower at my parent's house one time, $50 sign on 
> it. I didn't even get back to the house, truck pulled up, 2 guys jumped out, 
> grabbed it and tossed it in the back and burned rubber out of there. I don't 
> think they even noticed that it didn't have an engine...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Sunday, February 6, 2022, 08:52:02 PM EST, OK Don via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> Put it between the sidewalk and the curb with a "FREE" sign on it -
> probably gone within 48 hrs.
> 
>> On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 7:38 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, the one here does quite the business. I'm not sure if it's something
>> they would want - the biggest problem for me would be getting it loaded in
>> the ML. These things are beasts, there's no way I could lift it.
>> 
>> I had two really nice ceiling fans I took down; one was really cool with a
>> Southwest motif and the other one was practically brand new with a remote
>> and light kit, too. Couldn't give them away on CL or FB, so I dropped them
>> off at H4H. They were excited as heck.
>> 
>> I may stop by there on the way home from work and ask them. Thanks for the
>> suggestion!
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Allan Streib
>> via Mercedes 
>> Sent: Sunday, February 6, 2022 8:32 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Allan Streib 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] FB Rant
>> 
>> The local Habitat for Humanity here has a program here where they take old
>> (working) appliances, cabinets, doors, sinks, etc. from renovations and
>> make them available to people in need. I think they do pickups also. Might
>> try looking for about local similar programs.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>>> On Sun, Feb 6, 2022, at 8:25 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I have one of those old Kenmore under counter trash compactors at the
>>> Flagstaff house. It works, but I have no use for it and would prefer to
>>> recover the cabinet space it takes up.
>>> 
>>> So this morning I list it on several local FB "For Sale" groups for
>>> free. I've had numerous "Is this still available?" messages and even a
>>> few that follow through and want to know where it is (the location is
>>> in the ad, idiots) and when they can come pick it up. I tell them the
>>> location is in the ad and that if they give me a time I'll give them
>>> the exact address. Most want my phone number, which I don't give out
>>> for stuff like this.
>>> 
>>> Then they ghost me.
>>> 
>>> I think that when I refuse to give a phone number, I'll start telling
>>> them that I work with victims of domestic abuse so I don't give out my
>>> phone number. I don't see why that's so off-putting. Tell me when you
>>> can come and I'll tell you where to pick it up.
>>> 
>>> Grr.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ

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Apparently the difference is the absence of late night drunken debauchery.

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> On Feb 6, 2022, at 9:06 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes  
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> 
> I will put out a full post in a few days once I get my new post cataract
> surgery lenses but ChowdahQ 15 will be Sept 10 in RI. I would be interested
> in comparison of Rusty Q & ChowdahQ's. I never attended a Rusty Q.
> 
>> On Sun, Feb 6, 2022, 8:22 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> With Rusty kicking the bucket and pics of previous RustyQs being posted,
>> made me think perhaps I should attend a ChowdaQ. When is the next one? Do
>> they hold a candle to the old RustyQ? Seems impossible they could be
>> anywhere close.  Looking back, those were the best of times.
>> 
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[MBZ] Could this be the final nail in the coffin?

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Re: [MBZ] 1960 Mercedes-Benz 190SL 190SL - $76500.00

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It’s a 4.

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> 
> Claimed to be a V8.  Point out that it's a 6 cyl. and demand a 25% discount.
> 
>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 11:41 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> But it has the rare power lift gate option and bluetooth.
>> 
>>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022, at 9:43 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>> A few years ago you could buy these things for $20k or less, nobody
>>> wanted them
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/ctd/d/lexington-1960-mercedes-benz-190sl-190sl/7444035627.html
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Re: [MBZ] Oil

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I bought shell Rotella 5W40 at Walmart a couple of weeks ago.

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> On Feb 13, 2022, at 1:14 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> One of my vehicles is a Ford F350 with the 6.0 diesel. The oil of choice
> for that engine is now full synthetic 5W40 year round. I'm finding Shell
> Rotella T-6 synthetic 5W40 & 15W40 impossible to source. Just yesterday, my
> parts manager at NAPA advised me that Shell had announced they would not be
> shipping consumer sized containers [1 gallon, quarts, and 2.5 gallon] for
> the next year. Apparently they will be focused on large commercial users
> [trucking companies] and selling 55 gallon drums, but not smaller.
> Non synthetic 15W40 supply has been and still is equally in short supply.
> If you find some, the NAPA manager said, buy it. I found 5 gallons and
> bought it to change the oil on the 6.0, which was 4,000 miles
> overdue because I could not source the oil.
> Your results may vary.
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 9:36 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> An oil question.  Anybody seen or have any data on cold start flow rates
>> of 15w40 v 5w40 at temps of say 10-20 degrees, or perhaps up to
>> freezing?  Would it be safe to assume that at any cold start temp of
>> that range, or maybe even higher, the 5w will flow faster and lead to
>> less wear at cold start, or does it make a difference since the oil
>> should be under pressure?  I would think it would be a given if you are
>> trying to run 15w below zero, could run into lube problems?  I guess
>> bottom line question, would one make a difference over the other for
>> cold start wear?
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Re: [MBZ] Oil

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Yup bad decisions and fraudulent occupancy have dire consequences.

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> On Feb 13, 2022, at 10:53 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> Could find no T6 that could be ordered anywhere. This is unbelievable.
> 
> It's only going to get worse as time goes on. Perhaps it turns around by 
> 2023-2024 ish.
> Perhaps.
> 
> Oh, and it's not just oil. It's industrial equipment, VFDs, PLCs, valves, 
> motors, bearings, etc.
> 
> Good luck when your essential service provider (electricity, natural gas, 
> refinery, sewer plant, etc.) has a component fail and no replacement in 
> stock. Oh, and the one they ordered is six to eight months out.
> 
> Bad decisions lead to bad consequences.
> Oops.
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Re: [MBZ] Lifts

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The only 3 two post lifts I’d touch are Mohawk, Rotary or Nussbaum. All three 
made in USA. Jaime turned me on to Mohawk and Nussbaum. Nussbaum and Rotary are 
about half price of Mohawk.

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> 
> I see this company is "local" (local chinee stuff?) and their prices are 
> pretty good.  I wonder if they sell from the factory for cheaper if you go 
> pick up whatever you want.  The vendor link below gives opportunity to pick 
> up at the factory
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/375098640650422
> 
> https://www.amgohyd.com/
> 
> Prices are not unreasonable it seems
> 
> https://www.mechanicsuperstore.com/brands/amgo-hydraulics
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Re: [MBZ] What happened to my trailer?

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I see rivet holes and adhesive. Both were used in my opinion. How it came off 
is a mystery. 

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> On Feb 14, 2022, at 7:50 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Remove the other side and use it as a template. Find a metal supply that
> can match whatever it is, have them shear it to size, THEN, rivet them both
> on, or use self tapping screws.
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 5:33 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yup - I don't see rivet holes. Rivet the other side one while you still
>> have it.
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 6:30 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> No rivets, adhesive. It came lose and you loosed it
>>> 
>>> --FT
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>>> 
 On Feb 14, 2022, at 6:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Appears to have been glued in place, so probably was jarred loose
>> during
 travel.
 
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> 
> A couple of weeks ago I went up to Nebraska to pickup that diesel ML
>>> from
> copart. Stopped overnight in Topeka KS. Came out the next morning to
> discover the passenger side side step diamond plate piece was
>> completely
> missing. This is riveted in place. I sure don’t recall it being loose
> causing it to maybe blow off, and didn’t notice it blowing off while
> driving. I know for sure it was on the trailer when I left Copart. I
>>> need
> to take a closer look but wondering if somebody pried it off while it
>>> was
> parked at the hotel. I would think if that was the case they would
>> have
> left marks. If that did happen why would they steal this and not both
> sides? Strange for sure.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Lifts

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Nussbaum is a German company but their US line is made in NC I believe. There 
is a contact, Peter Engel who is an MB enthusiast who sells them. They have the 
most flexibility with articulated rear arms as an option in the Otto series. 
Pierre Hedary bought his Nussbaum from Peter and I almost did as well but I 
couldn’t find an installer in Maine familiar with Nussbaum so I opted for a 
Mohawk. Mohawk is the most robust forever lift but costs a small fortune. My 
brother went in on it with me to help with the cost. Rotary is the mainstream 
lift that most dealers use, has the widest dealer network but is not as 
interesting as a Nussbaum and doesn’t have the same degree of arm articulation. 
Personally, I think a Mohawk with the least amount of arm extension options is 
just fine. It’s built like a tank and only needs periodic spray down with wd40 
as maintenance. Yes factory manual specifically says wd40!  You install it and 
forget about it. No cables to adjust or plastic carriage slider blocks to 
replace as with rotary, Nussbaum and all others. 

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> 
> I’ll check those out too
> 
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>> On Feb 15, 2022, at 11:05 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The only 3 two post lifts I’d touch are Mohawk, Rotary or Nussbaum. All 
>> three made in USA. Jaime turned me on to Mohawk and Nussbaum. Nussbaum and 
>> Rotary are about half price of Mohawk.
>> 
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>>>> On Feb 15, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I see this company is "local" (local chinee stuff?) and their prices are 
>>> pretty good.  I wonder if they sell from the factory for cheaper if you go 
>>> pick up whatever you want.  The vendor link below gives opportunity to pick 
>>> up at the factory
>>> 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/375098640650422
>>> 
>>> https://www.amgohyd.com/
>>> 
>>> Prices are not unreasonable it seems
>>> 
>>> https://www.mechanicsuperstore.com/brands/amgo-hydraulics
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Lifts

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Yes concrete needs to be at least 4 inches thick with no cracks and lift 
columns must be 4-8 inches away from control joints depending on lift 
manufacturer specs. Mohawk btw requires lowest ceiling clearance of all the 
other currently available 2 post lifts.

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> I think I might be more concerned with the quality of the concrete floor and 
> the installation of the hoist than I would be with the hoist itself since you 
> can at least see it and any issues that might cause concern.
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
>> On 15/02/2022 10:13 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> I was thinking the same thing, the forces on a 2 post lift are pretty big.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022, 11:04:58 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via 
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> The only 3 two post lifts I’d touch are Mohawk, Rotary or Nussbaum. All 
>> three made in USA. Jaime turned me on to Mohawk and Nussbaum. Nussbaum and 
>> Rotary are about half price of Mohawk.
>> 
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>>>> On Feb 15, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I see this company is "local" (local chinee stuff?) and their prices are 
>>> pretty good.  I wonder if they sell from the factory for cheaper if you go 
>>> pick up whatever you want.  The vendor link below gives opportunity to pick 
>>> up at the factory
>>> 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/375098640650422
>>> 
>>> https://www.amgohyd.com/
>>> 
>>> Prices are not unreasonable it seems
>>> 
>>> https://www.mechanicsuperstore.com/brands/amgo-hydraulics
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Lifts

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Did you see the Mohawk requirements? I think it’s under 10 ft. Others are 12 
plus feet.

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> On Feb 15, 2022, at 12:06 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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> I wish the joists/rafters in my Flagstaff garage were a little higher. I 
> could get a lift in there if they were. The day might come when I consider 
> raising the roof, literally. No way I could do it at the Florida house.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Feb 15, 2022, at 11:39 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes concrete needs to be at least 4 inches thick with no cracks and lift 
>> columns must be 4-8 inches away from control joints depending on lift 
>> manufacturer specs. Mohawk btw requires lowest ceiling clearance of all the 
>> other currently available 2 post lifts.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Feb 15, 2022, at 11:29 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think I might be more concerned with the quality of the concrete floor 
>>> and the installation of the hoist than I would be with the hoist itself 
>>> since you can at least see it and any issues that might cause concern.
>>> 
>>> Randy
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 15/02/2022 10:13 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>>> I was thinking the same thing, the forces on a 2 post lift are pretty big.
>>>> 
>>>> -Curt
>>>> 
>>>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022, 11:04:58 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via 
>>>> Mercedes  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The only 3 two post lifts I’d touch are Mohawk, Rotary or Nussbaum. All 
>>>> three made in USA. Jaime turned me on to Mohawk and Nussbaum. Nussbaum and 
>>>> Rotary are about half price of Mohawk.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I see this company is "local" (local chinee stuff?) and their prices are 
>>>>> pretty good.  I wonder if they sell from the factory for cheaper if you 
>>>>> go pick up whatever you want.  The vendor link below gives opportunity to 
>>>>> pick up at the factory
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/375098640650422
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.amgohyd.com/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Prices are not unreasonable it seems
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.mechanicsuperstore.com/brands/amgo-hydraulics
>>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Lifts

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Interesting and the bendpak does seem more stout but bendpak perhaps not 
comparing apples to apples. They are definitely being dishonest with regard to 
arm extension as rotary also has 3 stage arm option. Dealers in Maine told me 
that bendpak gets more repair calls than rotary and I don’t believe bendpak is 
made in the USA but I could be wrong. If you want stout the Mohawk is leaps and 
bounds stronger than the others. Carriages slide on fork lift mass not bent 
sheetmetal and ride on steel wheels not plastic slides. US military uses 
Mohawk. 

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> On Feb 15, 2022, at 12:08 PM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Interesting comparison, although not exactly impartial, between Rotary and
> BendPak:
> 
> https://www.bendpak.com/a-study-in-lift-design/two-post-lift-comparison/
> 
>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022, Dimitri wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Nussbaum is a German company but their US line is made in NC I believe.
>> There is a contact, Peter Engel who is an MB enthusiast who sells them.
>> They have the most flexibility with articulated rear arms as an option in
>> the Otto series. Pierre Hedary bought his Nussbaum from Peter and I almost
>> did as well but I couldn?t find an installer in Maine familiar with
>> Nussbaum so I opted for a Mohawk. Mohawk is the most robust forever lift
>> but costs a small fortune. My brother went in on it with me to help with
>> the cost. Rotary is the mainstream lift that most dealers use, has the
>> widest dealer network but is not as interesting as a Nussbaum and doesn?t
>> have the same degree of arm articulation. Personally, I think a Mohawk with
>> the least amount of arm extension options is just fine. It?s built like a
>> tank and only needs periodic spray down with wd40 as maintenance. Yes
>> factory manual specifically says wd40!  You install it and forget about it.
>> No cables to adjust or plastic carriage slider blocks to replace as with
>> rotary, Nussbaum and all others.
>> 
>> 
>> And:
>> 
>> 
>> Yes concrete needs to be at least 4 inches thick with no cracks and lift
>> columns must be 4-8 inches away from control joints depending on lift
>> manufacturer specs. Mohawk btw requires lowest ceiling clearance of all the
>> other currently available 2 post lifts.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 15, 2022, at 11:29 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?I think I might be more concerned with the quality of the concrete
>> floor and the installation of the hoist than I would be with the hoist
>> itself since you can at least see it and any issues that might cause
>> concern.
>>> 
>>> Randy
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Lifts

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Look at Mohawk columns compared to bendpak or rotary. This was during install 
of my lift.



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> On Feb 15, 2022, at 12:08 PM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Interesting comparison, although not exactly impartial, between Rotary and
> BendPak:
> 
> https://www.bendpak.com/a-study-in-lift-design/two-post-lift-comparison/
> 
>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022, Dimitri wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Nussbaum is a German company but their US line is made in NC I believe.
>> There is a contact, Peter Engel who is an MB enthusiast who sells them.
>> They have the most flexibility with articulated rear arms as an option in
>> the Otto series. Pierre Hedary bought his Nussbaum from Peter and I almost
>> did as well but I couldn?t find an installer in Maine familiar with
>> Nussbaum so I opted for a Mohawk. Mohawk is the most robust forever lift
>> but costs a small fortune. My brother went in on it with me to help with
>> the cost. Rotary is the mainstream lift that most dealers use, has the
>> widest dealer network but is not as interesting as a Nussbaum and doesn?t
>> have the same degree of arm articulation. Personally, I think a Mohawk with
>> the least amount of arm extension options is just fine. It?s built like a
>> tank and only needs periodic spray down with wd40 as maintenance. Yes
>> factory manual specifically says wd40!  You install it and forget about it.
>> No cables to adjust or plastic carriage slider blocks to replace as with
>> rotary, Nussbaum and all others.
>> 
>> 
>> And:
>> 
>> 
>> Yes concrete needs to be at least 4 inches thick with no cracks and lift
>> columns must be 4-8 inches away from control joints depending on lift
>> manufacturer specs. Mohawk btw requires lowest ceiling clearance of all the
>> other currently available 2 post lifts.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 15, 2022, at 11:29 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?I think I might be more concerned with the quality of the concrete
>> floor and the installation of the hoist than I would be with the hoist
>> itself since you can at least see it and any issues that might cause
>> concern.
>>> 
>>> Randy
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Lifts

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Depending upon whether lift is symmetrical or asymmetrical, you pull car in 
more forward or not. Either way, the requirement is that you lift car a short 
distance and rock both ends to determine if it’s tippy before you continue to 
raise to full height. Things such as payload in a truck etc can affect the 
center of gravity as does the removal of an engine or rear axle. Asymmetrical 
design and you pull in to align column up to around the a pillar ( this allows 
more room to open door) with symmetrical you pull in closer to b pillar but 
somewhere between a and b pillar. This leaves less room to open door. Mohawk 
now only makes symmetrical lifts (Jaime was able to get one of their last 
asymmetrical lifts, I didn’t make the cutoff and so I got the symmetrical) but 
their columns are spaced out further away from each other than other lifts 
leaving more room to open doors.

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> On Feb 15, 2022, at 12:18 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It seems to me that with a 2-post lift it is going to be important that the 
> lift arms are placed so that the weight of the car is balanced front to back. 
> The two steel posts can easily support the weight straight down, but if the 
> car isn't balanced there will be a torque on the posts as the car wants to 
> fall forwards or backwards, and you are relying on the floor bolts and the 
> concrete to support that.
> 
> I am surprised that the better lifts don't have some way of indicating that 
> the load is too far out of balance. Or do they?
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022, at 11:13 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> I was thinking the same thing, the forces on a 2 post lift are pretty big.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022, 11:04:58 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via 
>> Mercedes  wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> The only 3 two post lifts I’d touch are Mohawk, Rotary or Nussbaum. All 
>> three made in USA. Jaime turned me on to Mohawk and Nussbaum. Nussbaum 
>> and Rotary are about half price of Mohawk.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Feb 15, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I see this company is "local" (local chinee stuff?) and their prices are 
>>> pretty good.  I wonder if they sell from the factory for cheaper if you go 
>>> pick up whatever you want.  The vendor link below gives opportunity to pick 
>>> up at the factory
>>> 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/375098640650422
>>> 
>>> https://www.amgohyd.com/
>>> 
>>> Prices are not unreasonable it seems
>>> 
>>> https://www.mechanicsuperstore.com/brands/amgo-hydraulics
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Lifts

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

I don’t know. I have only done this a couple of times. It should feel balanced. 
Not be more tippy one end vs the other. It’s not an exact science. 

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> On Feb 15, 2022, at 1:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> With a car properly center on your lift how much does it move when you push 
> the front or rear up or down? 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 15, 2022, at 11:45 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Depending upon whether lift is symmetrical or asymmetrical, you pull car in 
>> more forward or not. Either way, the requirement is that you lift car a 
>> short distance and rock both ends to determine if it’s tippy before you 
>> continue to raise to full height. Things such as payload in a truck etc can 
>> affect the center of gravity as does the removal of an engine or rear axle. 
>> Asymmetrical design and you pull in to align column up to around the a 
>> pillar ( this allows more room to open door) with symmetrical you pull in 
>> closer to b pillar but somewhere between a and b pillar. This leaves less 
>> room to open door. Mohawk now only makes symmetrical lifts (Jaime was able 
>> to get one of their last asymmetrical lifts, I didn’t make the cutoff and so 
>> I got the symmetrical) but their columns are spaced out further away from 
>> each other than other lifts leaving more room to open doors.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Feb 15, 2022, at 12:18 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It seems to me that with a 2-post lift it is going to be important that 
>>> the lift arms are placed so that the weight of the car is balanced front to 
>>> back. The two steel posts can easily support the weight straight down, but 
>>> if the car isn't balanced there will be a torque on the posts as the car 
>>> wants to fall forwards or backwards, and you are relying on the floor bolts 
>>> and the concrete to support that.
>>> 
>>> I am surprised that the better lifts don't have some way of indicating that 
>>> the load is too far out of balance. Or do they?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022, at 11:13 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>>> I was thinking the same thing, the forces on a 2 post lift are pretty big.
>>>> 
>>>> -Curt
>>>> 
>>>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022, 11:04:58 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via 
>>>> Mercedes  wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The only 3 two post lifts I’d touch are Mohawk, Rotary or Nussbaum. All 
>>>> three made in USA. Jaime turned me on to Mohawk and Nussbaum. Nussbaum 
>>>> and Rotary are about half price of Mohawk.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I see this company is "local" (local chinee stuff?) and their prices are 
>>>>> pretty good.  I wonder if they sell from the factory for cheaper if you 
>>>>> go pick up whatever you want.  The vendor link below gives opportunity to 
>>>>> pick up at the factory
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/375098640650422
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.amgohyd.com/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Prices are not unreasonable it seems
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.mechanicsuperstore.com/brands/amgo-hydraulics
>>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Lifts

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Be careful with the stands. I hear that people have forgotten to remove them 
and lowered car with stands in place. The results were disastrous to say the 
least. One guy had one stand in place and didn’t engage locks. He accidentally 
nudged the release lever and the car fell off lift.

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> On Feb 15, 2022, at 1:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Mine will move a little bit but feels solid and not like it’s going to fall 
> off. After I get it in the air I always put a tall safety stand at the front 
> and back just to be sure. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 15, 2022, at 12:10 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I don’t know. I have only done this a couple of times. It should feel 
>> balanced. Not be more tippy one end vs the other. It’s not an exact science. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Feb 15, 2022, at 1:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> With a car properly center on your lift how much does it move when you 
>>> push the front or rear up or down? 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 15, 2022, at 11:45 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Depending upon whether lift is symmetrical or asymmetrical, you pull car 
>>>> in more forward or not. Either way, the requirement is that you lift car a 
>>>> short distance and rock both ends to determine if it’s tippy before you 
>>>> continue to raise to full height. Things such as payload in a truck etc 
>>>> can affect the center of gravity as does the removal of an engine or rear 
>>>> axle. Asymmetrical design and you pull in to align column up to around the 
>>>> a pillar ( this allows more room to open door) with symmetrical you pull 
>>>> in closer to b pillar but somewhere between a and b pillar. This leaves 
>>>> less room to open door. Mohawk now only makes symmetrical lifts (Jaime was 
>>>> able to get one of their last asymmetrical lifts, I didn’t make the cutoff 
>>>> and so I got the symmetrical) but their columns are spaced out further 
>>>> away from each other than other lifts leaving more room to open doors.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2022, at 12:18 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> It seems to me that with a 2-post lift it is going to be important that 
>>>>> the lift arms are placed so that the weight of the car is balanced front 
>>>>> to back. The two steel posts can easily support the weight straight down, 
>>>>> but if the car isn't balanced there will be a torque on the posts as the 
>>>>> car wants to fall forwards or backwards, and you are relying on the floor 
>>>>> bolts and the concrete to support that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am surprised that the better lifts don't have some way of indicating 
>>>>> that the load is too far out of balance. Or do they?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022, at 11:13 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>> I was thinking the same thing, the forces on a 2 post lift are pretty 
>>>>>> big.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Curt
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022, 11:04:58 AM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via 
>>>>>> Mercedes  wrote: 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The only 3 two post lifts I’d touch are Mohawk, Rotary or Nussbaum. All 
>>>>>> three made in USA. Jaime turned me on to Mohawk and Nussbaum. Nussbaum 
>>>>>> and Rotary are about half price of Mohawk.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I see this company is "local" (local chinee stuff?) and their prices 
>>>>>>> are pretty good.  I wonder if they sell from the factory for cheaper if 
>>>>>>> you go pick up whatever you want.  The vendor link below gives 
>>>>>>> opportunity to pick up at the factory
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/it

Re: [MBZ] Lifts

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Yeah I’m still pretty nervous using it. 

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> On Feb 15, 2022, at 1:54 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It’s all about procedures, man. Doing the same thing, over and over and 
> over, without change. When you’re done with your work, you go through the 
> checklist line by line.
> 
> Just like flying. No shortcuts or you get hurt or die.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Feb 15, 2022, at 1:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I really don’t know how you could forget that but I suppose anything is 
>> possible. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Feb 15, 2022, at 12:18 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Be careful with the stands. I hear that people have forgotten to remove 
>>> them and lowered car with stands in place. The results were disastrous to 
>>> say the least. One guy had one stand in place and didn’t engage locks. He 
>>> accidentally nudged the release lever and the car fell off lift.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 15, 2022, at 1:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Mine will move a little bit but feels solid and not like it’s going to 
>>>> fall off. After I get it in the air I always put a tall safety stand at 
>>>> the front and back just to be sure. 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2022, at 12:10 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don’t know. I have only done this a couple of times. It should feel 
>>>>> balanced. Not be more tippy one end vs the other. It’s not an exact 
>>>>> science. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2022, at 1:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> With a car properly center on your lift how much does it move when you 
>>>>>> push the front or rear up or down? 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2022, at 11:45 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Depending upon whether lift is symmetrical or asymmetrical, you pull 
>>>>>>> car in more forward or not. Either way, the requirement is that you 
>>>>>>> lift car a short distance and rock both ends to determine if it’s tippy 
>>>>>>> before you continue to raise to full height. Things such as payload in 
>>>>>>> a truck etc can affect the center of gravity as does the removal of an 
>>>>>>> engine or rear axle. Asymmetrical design and you pull in to align 
>>>>>>> column up to around the a pillar ( this allows more room to open door) 
>>>>>>> with symmetrical you pull in closer to b pillar but somewhere between a 
>>>>>>> and b pillar. This leaves less room to open door. Mohawk now only makes 
>>>>>>> symmetrical lifts (Jaime was able to get one of their last asymmetrical 
>>>>>>> lifts, I didn’t make the cutoff and so I got the symmetrical) but their 
>>>>>>> columns are spaced out further away from each other than other lifts 
>>>>>>> leaving more room to open doors.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2022, at 12:18 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It seems to me that with a 2-post lift it is going to be important 
>>>>>>>> that the lift arms are placed so that the weight of the car is 
>>>>>>>> balanced front to back. The two steel posts can easily support the 
>>>>>>>> weight straight down, but if the car isn't balanced there will be a 
>>>>>>>> torque on the posts as the car wants to fall forwards or backwards, 
>>>>>>>> and you are relying on the floor bolts and the concrete to support 
>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I am surprised that the better lifts don't have some way of indicating 
>>>>>>

Re: [MBZ] Lifts

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Bottom of lift arm is 72” from floor. Top of lift pad minimum is 75.5 but could 
be higher if you use the provided extensions. 

https://mohawklifts.com/library/spec_docs/System-1A_spec.doc

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> On Feb 15, 2022, at 2:40 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Since I am tall I would like a lift that gets enough room under a car for me 
> to walk without banging my head or stooping over, which means getting it off 
> the ground (the underside anyway) at least 78" (I am 76").  I see the lift 
> heights specs but not sure if that is the bottom of the arms or the top of 
> the pads on the arms, i.e., how high the bottom of the vehicle is.  There are 
> some that will go to 80" or more, which means if you have a tall vehicle like 
> a truck you would need another 6' or more above that lift height which would 
> mean the bottom of your rafters like 13ft.  My suburban sits at least 6ft 
> high (and a few more inches) but that is sitting on the tires.
> 
> I guess when I get ready to acquire one I will have to check into that aspect.
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 2/15/22 12:12 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
>> Did you see the Mohawk requirements? I think it’s under 10 ft. Others are 12 
>> plus feet.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Lifts

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

I had two former mechanics retire who were donating lifts. Just had to 
uninstall them and transport and reinstall in my garage. I looked into it and 
it wasn’t worth it for me mostly because I didn’t have the equipment and 
knowledge to remove, move and re-install. 

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> On Feb 15, 2022, at 3:23 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> I guess when I get ready to acquire one I will have to check into that 
>> aspect.
> 
> 
> Perhaps a morbid observation, but with retiring mechanics, and independent 
> auto shops closing, you may want to check estate auctions near you for lifts. 
> I have seen several sold recently, fairly cheap. I currently don't have room 
> for one.
> Next year.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Lifts

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Some 4 posts have the option to remove wheel and jack up from the ramp but you 
still have the ramp in the way. 4 post also takes up more real estate in the 
garage so it wasn’t an option for me but I can see the appeal.

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> On Feb 15, 2022, at 3:38 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My brother in law has a neighbor who is a big Ford fanatic. He’s got a 
> couple of Mustangs that he parks on the four post parking lifts in his 
> garage. It’s a pretty nice setup although using one for servicing a vehicle 
> precludes the ability to do anything with the wheels or suspension, since 
> they’re a “drive on” lift. I’m not sure it’s that big of a deal, but I can 
> see where it would be a compromise.
> 
> Having the additional parking/storage space would be nice, however.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Feb 15, 2022, at 3:04 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah I was looking at those AMGO 2-posts and they have 3 different extension 
>> heights for the lift pads that will give up to another 5in.  They have an 
>> extension for the bar that connects the top too so you can get a tall 
>> vehicle up higher but obviously you would need a higher rafter height too. 
>> https://www.amgohyd.com/product/oh-9-two-post-lift/
>> 
>> The stackable rubber pads package with 1.5″, 2.5″, 5″ extension adapters.
>> 
>> Optional Height Extension Kits With this kits,the height can be adjusted 
>> from 3821mm(150 1/2″)to 4431mm(174 1/2″) Kits
>> 
>> They have 4-post "parking" lifts too that have up to 85.5" lifting height.  
>> You can work on stuff under the car on those (and park another car under 
>> them), and they have a jack tray so you can lift the car up and take off 
>> wheels too so that would be handy but would not be as flexible as a 2-post. 
>> https://www.amgohyd.com/product/408-hp/  I guess that is a standard option 
>> for these 4-posts.
>> 
>> Clearly one would need both kinds!
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 2/15/22 2:54 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Bottom of lift arm is 72” from floor. Top of lift pad minimum is 75.5 but 
>>> could be higher if you use the provided extensions.
>>> 
>>> https://mohawklifts.com/library/spec_docs/System-1A_spec.doc
>>> 
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>>> 
>>>> On Feb 15, 2022, at 2:40 PM, Floyd Thursby via 
>>>> Mercedes  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Since I am tall I would like a lift that gets enough room under a car for 
>>>> me to walk without banging my head or stooping over, which means getting 
>>>> it off the ground (the underside anyway) at least 78" (I am 76").  I see 
>>>> the lift heights specs but not sure if that is the bottom of the arms or 
>>>> the top of the pads on the arms, i.e., how high the bottom of the vehicle 
>>>> is.  There are some that will go to 80" or more, which means if you have a 
>>>> tall vehicle like a truck you would need another 6' or more above that 
>>>> lift height which would mean the bottom of your rafters like 13ft.  My 
>>>> suburban sits at least 6ft high (and a few more inches) but that is 
>>>> sitting on the tires.
>>>> 
>>>> I guess when I get ready to acquire one I will have to check into that 
>>>> aspect.
>>>> 
>>>> --FT
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/15/22 12:12 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>> Did you see the Mohawk requirements? I think it’s under 10 ft. Others are 
>>>>> 12 plus feet.
>>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1972 Mercedes-Benz C-Class C 250 Coupe 2D,$8,000

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Yes and who would trust a car owned by a “pimp”?

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> On Feb 15, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> 
> Looks so much cooler with the original hubcaps.
> 
>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 3:32 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>Seller's Description
>> 
>> Facebook won't let me post the correct model type. This is a 1972
>> Mercedes 250C W114. It has the 2.5L(M114) with a twin Weber carb. I also
>> have the OEM Zenith carb in the trunk if wanted to make factory spec.
>> This is a rare car. Only 67.048 coupés were made from 1969 to 1976
>> against 1,852,008 saloons. Of these 24,669 were "280CE" and 42,379
>> "250CE" worldwide. This car comes equipped with an automatic
>> transmission with the hard to find column shifter rather than the center
>> shifter. It is a four speed automatic. When I got the car it didn't even
>> run or drive. The engine wasn't working and the transmission was dead.
>> It has been garaged kept since owning it and now it is running and
>> driving; but unfortunately haven't had time to restore the body. All
>> electrics work fine, all four windows are powered and work. The car has
>> some body rust in the lower panels and will need restoring. Comes with a
>> clean title, W114 manuals, 2 sets of rims(rare chrome monoblocks rims
>> and the OEM caps and tires like the last example picture shown)
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/443899267418138
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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of fancy MB stuff -

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I agree, keep for 3 years and move on. The side impact safety feature is very 
interesting.

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> On Feb 17, 2022, at 5:29 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If I were only wealthy enough to lease a new one annually so that I didn't 
> have to be concerned about long term reliability, I would think all of that 
> was wonderful.
> 
> Randy
> 
>> On 17/02/2022 4:04 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:
>> Amazing stuff... and the video was posted summer of 2020!  This is what the
>> S class is... the best of the best.
>> 
>> On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 4:32 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Watch this video of the S-class. They almost figured out the side crash
>>> situation. They only raise the car 8cm - they should have it jump high
>>> enough that the other car drives under it!
>>> 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z10gHrOrlL8
>>> 
>>> --
>>> OK Don
>>> 
>>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>>> 
>>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
>>> Wernher
>>> Von Braun
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>>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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[MBZ] Metaltainment coming to a thread near you.

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Yes, I’m going to embark on a 240D quarter panel rust repair project soon!



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Re: [MBZ] Metaltainment coming to a thread near you.

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Ha yes I watch all three. Fitzee is not my style - not what I consider quality! 
Wray is a miracle worker. I like Make it Kustom.

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> On Feb 17, 2022, at 7:52 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If you want to whet your appetite for sheet metal work, watch Fitzee 
> Fabrications videos on YouTube. He does very practical repairs with simple 
> tools.
> 
> For more high end coachbuilding metalwork, look for Wray Schelin's ProShaper 
> videos.
> 
> Somewhere in between the two is Make it Kustom.
> 
> There are many others of course.
> 
> Allan
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Feb 17, 2022, at 6:29 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
>> And make money. There was a fellow on an old Chevy Trucks forum a few 
>> years back who did very nice work patching up rust etc. He made videos 
>> of his work and offered them for sale. I did not buy them but I have 
>> sometimes wished that I had.
>> 
>> Randy
>> 
>> 
>>> On 17/02/2022 5:27 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Make vids!
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iFōn
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 17, 2022, at 6:08 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, I’m going to embark on a 240D quarter panel rust repair project soon!
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Metaltainment coming to a thread near you.

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Will do.

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> On Feb 17, 2022, at 6:27 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
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> Cool! Keep the photos of progress coming!
> 
>> On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 5:08 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>> Yes, I’m going to embark on a 240D quarter panel rust repair project soon!
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Metaltainment coming to a thread near you.

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https://raybuck.com/panels/mercedes-benz/

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> On Feb 17, 2022, at 8:41 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
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> 
> Where did the lower quarter panel come from?
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
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> 
> Will do.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 17, 2022, at 6:27 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Cool! Keep the photos of progress coming!
>> 
>>> On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 5:08 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, I’m going to embark on a 240D quarter panel rust repair project soon!
>>> 
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>> 
>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  
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Re: [MBZ] CDI or BlueTec

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Avoid DEF at all costs.

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> On Feb 20, 2022, at 12:17 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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> 
> Yep we've ranged from near 60 degree highs to single-digit lows over the 
> past few weeks. Some of the roads here are in close to third world condition.
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Feb 20, 2022, at 11:53 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> Good point.
>> There are places where the freeway doesn't frost heave.
>> I keep forgetting that sometimes.
>> 
>>> On 2022-02-20 11:46, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>>> However,
>>> we did not notice the harsh ride when on Interstate highways, mostly in
>>> town and on our country back roads.
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Re: [MBZ] I decided to give the S550

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I saw one yesterday while driving and admired its good looks.

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> On Feb 20, 2022, at 3:19 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> A bit of a wash since it’s such a nice day. Gotta get on sourcing parts and 
> get it sorted. There’s something about a big Benz in 040 black that just 
> looks really good.
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Re: [MBZ] CDI or BlueTec

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But it has no style and it will end up in a junkyard well before your 123 wagon.

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> On Feb 21, 2022, at 11:01 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> 
> My modern Bluetec glk250 has way more pick up than my w123 turbo diesel
> station wagon. And the fuel economy is 10 miles a gal better in mixed
> driving and 13 to 14 mpg higher on the interstate.
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022, 9:10 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I suspect it's true for all of them, the technology has come a long way,
>> even from the 1970s.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Monday, February 21, 2022, 08:52:15 PM EST, Dwight Giles <
>> dwight.gi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> is that true with MB diesels or only VW?
>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022, 1:56 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> Newer diesels make a lot more power on less fuel than the older ones
>> too. The 2.0l in my Jetta makes around 145hp and that's with the de-tune
>> from VW. Compare that to 120hp out of the 3.0l 617 turbo. It also starts
>> well in deep cold. I've started it at -5F and it fired right up, no
>> complaints.
>>> 
>>> It'll also do 55mpg pretty handily, a 617 turbo dreams of 30mpg...
>>> 
>>> I really like the look and feel of a W123 but my Jetta is a lot easier
>> to live with.
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> On Monday, February 21, 2022, 01:50:15 PM EST, Allan Streib via
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have had this feeling but not based on any real data.
>>> 
>>> The older diesels are so simple. They just need fuel and good
>> compression and they will run. They don't need a computer, or even a
>> working battery/alternator.
>>> 
>>> The complexity of the new diesels is all about reducing the particulate
>> emissions, something that gas vehicles really don't have to worry about.
>>> 
>>> I probably would not buy a modern diesel car, as much as I like my
>> OM617s.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022, at 1:31 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
 I saw a 2012 E350 BlueTec, 103k miles, show up at a Subaru dealer here.
 Ran it to ground and in the process talked to the shop that performed
 all its services. The dude‘s shop makes its living servicing and
 repairing Mercedes’.  We talked diesels in general and he revealed to
 me his love of older MB diesels. He told me the car in question is
 squared away. He told me everything he has done to it, he even sent me
 its complete service history. Then in the very next breath he told me
 that I should run away from “modern Mercedes diesels”.  He has years of
 empirical data and it shows that people will spend almost exactly twice
 as much $$ to correctly maintain one of these “modern diesels” as
 people will spend to correctly maintain the gas version, same model.
 
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Re: [MBZ] CDI or BlueTec

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Yes it’s a great car and it gets periodic thumbs up while I drive it. The 
engine purs, gets great fuel mileage and the chassis handles very well and 
feels solid like it was carved from a block of steel. It was designed by legend 
(Bruno Sacco) not by the nobodies who design today’s garbage cars. There is one 
out there on fakebook somewhere with over a million miles.

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> although my 90 300D OM 602 2.5t was a great engine. Dimitri is still
> driving it. doesn't need  valve adjustments like the OM61x
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022, 1:50 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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>> 
>> I have had this feeling but not based on any real data.
>> 
>> The older diesels are so simple. They just need fuel and good compression
>> and they will run. They don't need a computer, or even a working
>> battery/alternator.
>> 
>> The complexity of the new diesels is all about reducing the particulate
>> emissions, something that gas vehicles really don't have to worry about.
>> 
>> I probably would not buy a modern diesel car, as much as I like my OM617s.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022, at 1:31 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I saw a 2012 E350 BlueTec, 103k miles, show up at a Subaru dealer here.
>>> Ran it to ground and in the process talked to the shop that performed
>>> all its services. The dude‘s shop makes its living servicing and
>>> repairing Mercedes’.  We talked diesels in general and he revealed to
>>> me his love of older MB diesels. He told me the car in question is
>>> squared away. He told me everything he has done to it, he even sent me
>>> its complete service history. Then in the very next breath he told me
>>> that I should run away from “modern Mercedes diesels”.  He has years of
>>> empirical data and it shows that people will spend almost exactly twice
>>> as much $$ to correctly maintain one of these “modern diesels” as
>>> people will spend to correctly maintain the gas version, same model.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] CDI or BlueTec

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Possible but doubtful. Your 123 wagon is the forever car. Keep it.

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> On Feb 22, 2022, at 8:48 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
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> 
> I predict my GLK 250 will also go 1 million miles. Eventually, if too will 
> receive thumbs up from the proletariat.
> 
>> On Tue, Feb 22, 2022, 8:26 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
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>> Yes it’s a great car and it gets periodic thumbs up while I drive it. The 
>> engine purs, gets great fuel mileage and the chassis handles very well and 
>> feels solid like it was carved from a block of steel. It was designed by 
>> legend (Bruno Sacco) not by the nobodies who design today’s garbage cars. 
>> There is one out there on fakebook somewhere with over a million miles.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> > On Feb 21, 2022, at 8:45 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> > although my 90 300D OM 602 2.5t was a great engine. Dimitri is still
>> > driving it. doesn't need  valve adjustments like the OM61x
>> > 
>> >> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022, 1:50 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> I have had this feeling but not based on any real data.
>> >> 
>> >> The older diesels are so simple. They just need fuel and good compression
>> >> and they will run. They don't need a computer, or even a working
>> >> battery/alternator.
>> >> 
>> >> The complexity of the new diesels is all about reducing the particulate
>> >> emissions, something that gas vehicles really don't have to worry about.
>> >> 
>> >> I probably would not buy a modern diesel car, as much as I like my OM617s.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >>> On Mon, Feb 21, 2022, at 1:31 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>> >>> I saw a 2012 E350 BlueTec, 103k miles, show up at a Subaru dealer here.
>> >>> Ran it to ground and in the process talked to the shop that performed
>> >>> all its services. The dude‘s shop makes its living servicing and
>> >>> repairing Mercedes’.  We talked diesels in general and he revealed to
>> >>> me his love of older MB diesels. He told me the car in question is
>> >>> squared away. He told me everything he has done to it, he even sent me
>> >>> its complete service history. Then in the very next breath he told me
>> >>> that I should run away from “modern Mercedes diesels”.  He has years of
>> >>> empirical data and it shows that people will spend almost exactly twice
>> >>> as much $$ to correctly maintain one of these “modern diesels” as
>> >>> people will spend to correctly maintain the gas version, same model.
>> >>> 
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[MBZ] Which oil should I be using in my Mercedes? 4K

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Re: [MBZ] Cargo ship descends to Davy's Locker

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Mostly EVs on the ship? Good riddance. 

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> You buy insurance for your goods when you ship. The shipping company is not
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>> 
>> How does the insurance work in situations like this? I would guess there
>> are multiple parties involved, at least: the cargo ship owners, the
>> shipping company that the ship is leased or contracted with, and the many
>> different owners of the goods being transported.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022, at 1:13 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
>>> was on its way to a port about 5 miles from where I live.  car import
>>> terminal. fortunately no vintage Benzes.
>>> 
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>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Cargo ship descends to Davy's Locker

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Well EVs are not. 

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> 
> I read that solid state batteries are the next Big Thing.
> 
>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 4:43 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Mostly EVs on the ship? Good riddance. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> > On Mar 1, 2022, at 4:13 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> > You buy insurance for your goods when you ship. The shipping company is 
>> > not
>> > responsible for losses incurred.
>> > 
>> >> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022, 10:23 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> How does the insurance work in situations like this? I would guess there
>> >> are multiple parties involved, at least: the cargo ship owners, the
>> >> shipping company that the ship is leased or contracted with, and the many
>> >> different owners of the goods being transported.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022, at 1:13 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
>> >>> was on its way to a port about 5 miles from where I live.  car import
>> >>> terminal. fortunately no vintage Benzes.
>> >>> 
>> >>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022, 12:37 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>> 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] w126 front suspension bushings

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Rusty did the same for me.

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> On Mar 1, 2022, at 9:50 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> I did my 126 a few years ago and I think I told Jabba what I was gonna do 
> and he just sent the whole deal. Maybe FCP or one of the others could do that
> 
> --FT
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>> On Mar 1, 2022, at 8:05 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone know of a kit with all the front suspension rubber bits on a
>> w126? I replaced the control rod bushings on the body side, but the caster
>> is still way out, so it needs control arm rubber and the rubber on the
>> front end of the guide rod, and the big subframe rubber bushings. I am
>> thinking of replacing the rear control arms while I am at it. I did the
>> front ball joints and shocks already, so no need to get them.
>> 
>> Maybe fcp?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
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>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>>> Basically what the story is she was driving in the left and dude with
>>> trailer was in right lane.  He allegedly swerved into her lane while
>>> passing on the right and his trailer caught the bumper.  The other dude
>>> claims SWMBO swerved into his lane.  Cop arrives but this is basically a
>>> he said she said deal.  Supposedly guy later admitted in front of cop
>>> that he did in fact come over on her side and it was his fault.  Cop
>>> asks if they want a police report and citations issues, or if they want
>>> to let insurance handle it.  Wife opts for no report.  I let wife know
>>> as soon as she contacts their insurance, there guy will say it was her
>>> fault.  That is exactly what happened.  I guess SWMBO is screwed.  Not
>>> sure how she will prove fault without a police report.  IMO if he really
>>> admitted fault in front of cop, cop would put that on report, if their
>>> was one.  I let SWMBO know you ALWAYS demand a report when it is the
>>> other guys fault.  She says it was my fault because she called me to ask
>>> and I did not answer.  I did not answer because I was in meetings trying
>>> to work.
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Save the Date- ChowdahQ XV Sept. 10, 2022

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Yes zoom on over to Rhode Island in your trusty diesel or whatever MB!

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> We need to do a ZoomQ since a good many of us are not New Englanders and 
> have difficulty participating in this event.
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
> 
>> On 03/03/2022 4:40 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
>> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>> 
>> -.
>> 
>> 
>> [image: image.png]
>> 
>> Mark your calendar for another wonderful celebration of vehicles and
>> camaraderie.  Once again we  will be at Goddard State Park, 1095 Ives Road
>> Warwick RI. Sites 40-42.
>> http://www.riparks.com/Locations/LocationGoddard.html
>> 
>> We will start to gather about 10AM for coffee and Dunkin Donuts (It is New
>> England).  We will start with Chowdah about 1PM.  As always we will have
>> clam loaded Chowdah and Curt's Coleman cooked  food of You Tube Fame . Fred
>> Moir  will once again make his famous healthy veggie trays and dips and we
>> will have Mary's fresh fruit.  We  will also steam a couple hundred local
>> littleneck clams.
>> 
>> As usual, we will have a great time of hood raising, story telling, some
>> games and contests and a drawing for a  gift certificate from  our sponsor
>> Fred's Autohaus  in West Warwick RI. No admission charge  but we will pass
>> the 240D hubcap for expenses.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

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Ha yeah. I’m not perplexed.

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> On Mar 5, 2022, at 12:06 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> Doubled in about 1.5yr. I can’t understand it. It’s perplexing. 
> 
> --FT
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>> On Mar 4, 2022, at 11:09 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Four dollars a gallon here tonight for 87.
>> 
>> Just keeps going up. $0.30 in the past two days alone
>> 
>> Bodes poorly for values of used V8s and SUVs?
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Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

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Diesel even higher. Better sell them when you get your battery operated fake 
green toy!

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> Bodes well for us diesel lovers.
> 
>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022, 11:09 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Four dollars a gallon here tonight for 87.
>> 
>> Just keeps going up. $0.30 in the past two days alone
>> 
>> Bodes poorly for values of used V8s and SUVs?
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Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

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9-10 in California

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> On Mar 5, 2022, at 3:03 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
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> I am counting on 8 before it's all over.
> 
>> On Sat, Mar 5, 2022, 10:37 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Closer to six bucks soon.
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Sent: March 5, 2022 11:44 AM
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices
>> 
>> Just passed the next station of the local major chain and it was $4.92.
>> Since this chain controls all fuel prices in the area it will soon be $4.92
>> everywhere.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Mar 5, 2022, at 11:24 AM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just got back to Tulsa. Was something like $3.69 and just had to fill
>> up at $4.29. Wtf?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 5, 2022, at 9:55 AM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
 
 It was 4.59 just outside of Enid this morning
 
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>> On Mar 5, 2022, at 9:44 AM, OK Don via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> I saw Diesel at $3.80 in town, then at $4.10 by the Interstate
>> yesterday.
> 
>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 10:20 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Diesel is $4.59!
>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022, at 11:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>>> Bodes well for us diesel lovers.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022, 11:09 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 Four dollars a gallon here tonight for 87.
 
 Just keeps going up. $0.30 in the past two days alone
 
 Bodes poorly for values of used V8s and SUVs?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

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Discussion of gas prices is related to cars. Nobody specified or implied a 
specific reason for the increase so I would say no. 

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> On Mar 5, 2022, at 3:52 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes  
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> is this considered political by the moderator?
> 
>> On Sat, Mar 5, 2022, 3:35 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Price at the pump is the canary in the coal mine.  Everything made using
>> energy or hydrocarbons will cost more, providing it is even available.  We
>> have been well and truly screwed by environmentalist dilatants and the ESG
>> crowd.  The Ukrainians got screwed infinitely worse.  It doesn't stop
>> there; expect global food shortages in 2022 and beyond except in the US and
>> a few other self-sufficient places.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
>> Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2022 3:02 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Karl Wittnebel 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices
>> 
>> I am counting on 8 before it's all over.
>> 
>> On Sat, Mar 5, 2022, 10:37 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Closer to six bucks soon.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Sent: March 5, 2022 11:44 AM
>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car
>>> prices
>>> 
>>> Just passed the next station of the local major chain and it was $4.92.
>>> Since this chain controls all fuel prices in the area it will soon be
>>> $4.92 everywhere.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 5, 2022, at 11:24 AM, Kaleb Striplin 
>> wrote:
 
 Just got back to Tulsa. Was something like $3.69 and just had to
 fill
>>> up at $4.29. Wtf?
 
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>> wrote:
> 
> It was 4.59 just outside of Enid this morning
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Mar 5, 2022, at 9:44 AM, OK Don via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I saw Diesel at $3.80 in town, then at $4.10 by the Interstate
>>> yesterday.
>> 
>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 10:20 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Diesel is $4.59!
>>> 
 On Fri, Mar 4, 2022, at 11:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
 Bodes well for us diesel lovers.
 
 On Fri, Mar 4, 2022, 11:09 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Four dollars a gallon here tonight for 87.
> 
> Just keeps going up. $0.30 in the past two days alone
> 
> Bodes poorly for values of used V8s and SUVs?
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>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

So what about home heating oil? What happens next winter when I have to heat my 
house? At this rate it is doubtful that prices will normalize by then and I go 
through a full 250 gallon tank of oil during the winter and that’s keeping the 
house at 60 degrees on average. If oil hits $8 per gallon by then which is not 
a stretch then I will be paying $2000 per month to heat my house.

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>  wrote:
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> If I am not mistaken, It never got that night the last time. 
> 
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>> On Mar 6, 2022, at 9:10 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Did Karl want to start a pool on LA gas prices?
>> $7 a gallon here. I checked and GasBuddy concurs.
>> 
>> This will not end well.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] $168

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Freaking ridiculous.

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> On Mar 9, 2022, at 5:52 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> That’s how much it cost my dad to fill up his 98 e300 today. 
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Re: [MBZ] $168

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I believe it is $8 per gallon in some parts of California. Where does he live?

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> On Mar 9, 2022, at 7:18 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
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> 
> 
> If it had a 21 gallon tank and was bone dry, that would be $8.00 a gallon. I 
> call BS.
> 
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> 
> That’s how much it cost my dad to fill up his 98 e300 today.
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Re: [MBZ] Was Oil, now Bread Machine

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My aunt and uncle owned (now my cousins) a flour mill in central Greece. It was 
quite an operation. While growing up in Athens, we’d get sack loads of whole 
wheat flour. My father would bake a lot of bread. We froze the excess loaves. 

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> On Mar 10, 2022, at 7:23 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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> 
> I don't make bread that often but trying to do more of it.
> 
> I use a KitchenAid mixer most of the time. Occasionally will hand-knead but 
> that takes too long.
> 
> I bake in a gas oven. 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, at 5:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> Panasonic Model number please?
>> 
>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 5:05 PM greg via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I did a bit of research many years back and found recommendations for a
>>> Japanese made Panasonic SD-YD250. I sourced one cheap on CL; and it's been
>>> churning out loaves for years.
>>> 
>>> Greg
>>> 
 On 09/03/2022 12:40 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> 
> The flour goes mostly to pizzas, our bread machine makes good pizza
> dough. This year I've stepped up my biscuit game too, finally realized
> keeping the butter cold really does make a difference.
> 
> -Curt
> 
 What sort of bread maker do you have? My wife has just worn out her 3rd
 one. The last 2 were Breville. We don't plan to buy another of those.
 
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[MBZ] Filled up with biodiesel

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Guess how much?

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Re: [MBZ] Filled up with biodiesel

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$3.65 per gallon vs $5.20 for Dino diesel.

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> Well now that would depend. If you made it yourself, free. If you purchased 
> it from a neighborhood co-op, $2 a gallon maybe $3. If you purchased it from 
> a fuel station probably $3.50-$4.00 a gallon.
> 
> 
> Rick
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> Guess how much?
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel

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Probably because it’s currently in higher demand due to heating oil demand.

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> Filled up with diesel at Sam’s this afternoon at $4.89. When I filled up 
> Monday it was $4.09. The Friday before was $3.39.  In most places diesel 
> seems to be running $1 more than unleaded. Why such a big gap?
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Re: [MBZ] Filled up with biodiesel

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Yours!

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> On Mar 11, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
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> 
> For which car?
> 
>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2022, 5:34 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> $3.65 per gallon vs $5.20 for Dino diesel.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> > On Mar 11, 2022, at 5:09 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> > Well now that would depend. If you made it yourself, free. If you 
>> > purchased it from a neighborhood co-op, $2 a gallon maybe $3. If you 
>> > purchased it from a fuel station probably $3.50-$4.00 a gallon.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Rick
>> > 
>> > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> > Sent: March 11, 2022 3:34 PM
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>> > Subject: [MBZ] Filled up with biodiesel
>> > 
>> > Guess how much?
>> > 
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Re: [MBZ] Filled up with biodiesel

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And it’s made from recycled restaurant oil so not farmed soybean oil biodiesel. 
I’m the ultimate green renegade! No fake green EVs for me!

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> On Mar 11, 2022, at 5:18 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
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> 
> The last time I bought bioD at a station it was like $0.10 more expensive 
> than dino diesel.
> Today I saw dino diesel as low as $4.79 and as high as $5.49. In theory BioD 
> could be much cheaper but if you had a similar product you probably wouldn't 
> price it way under the competition because you'd have the opportunity to make 
> a big profit.
> 
> I'm going to guess $4.50/gal
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Friday, March 11, 2022, 05:09:33 PM EST, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Well now that would depend. If you made it yourself, free. If you purchased 
> it from a neighborhood co-op, $2 a gallon maybe $3. If you purchased it from 
> a fuel station probably $3.50-$4.00 a gallon.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
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> Guess how much?
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Re: [MBZ] Filled up with biodiesel

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Thanks. Good to know! So sad how it’s impossible to find biodiesel in the 
Boston area. I get it in Maine and they supply my heating oil too. For heating 
oil I use B20.

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> On Mar 11, 2022, at 5:58 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
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> 
> good. years ago I Chnged the fuel lines on that OM 602to run BioD & then 
> Newport BioD switched to selling bio heating. oil.
> 
>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2022, 5:48 PM Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
>> Yours!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On Mar 11, 2022, at 5:45 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> For which car?
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2022, 5:34 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> $3.65 per gallon vs $5.20 for Dino diesel.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> > On Mar 11, 2022, at 5:09 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>> >  wrote:
>>>> > 
>>>> > Well now that would depend. If you made it yourself, free. If you 
>>>> > purchased it from a neighborhood co-op, $2 a gallon maybe $3. If you 
>>>> > purchased it from a fuel station probably $3.50-$4.00 a gallon.
>>>> > 
>>>> > 
>>>> > Rick
>>>> > 
>>>> > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>>> > Sent: March 11, 2022 3:34 PM
>>>> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>>> > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>>> > Cc: dsereta...@yahoo.com
>>>> > Subject: [MBZ] Filled up with biodiesel
>>>> > 
>>>> > Guess how much?
>>>> > 
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[MBZ] Diesel oil availability

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

I remember a thread a few weeks ago regarding a shortage of diesel motor oil. 
FYI, I see rotella 15W40 and 5W40 at Home Depot. 

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Re: [MBZ] How sad

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Yup. Low class morons.

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> capital offense for that stack
> 
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>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/667885134256591/
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Re: [MBZ] MB battery factory in AL

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They are actually way more green than EV batteries because they can be easily 
recycled. 

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> On Mar 16, 2022, at 10:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> No one claims that Exide batteries are "green"
> 
>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 9:59 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> but they are green.
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2022, 9:50 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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>> 
>>> There was an article in the local rag about an Exide battery factory in
>> SC
>>> that closed down and rundoff leaving a huge contaminated mess
>>> 
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[MBZ] Porsche?

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What you you all think of a vintage 911? A friend of mine wants to go halfsies 
on one. He seems to like the 911SC as the engine is supposedly bulletproof. I 
think the earlier 911T, E or S are better looking but they are prohibitively 
expensive.

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Re: [MBZ] Never seen a 220D with real leather

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Neither have I.

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Re: [MBZ] Porsche?

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I already own a couple of rental properties with him. No issues so far so not 
really worried about that. It’s good to share responsibility if problems arise. 

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> 
>> 
>> A friend of mine wants to go halfsies on one.
> 
> With who, you?
> 
> The only ship that won't sail is a partnership.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Porsche?

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Not worried about rust. He lives in California and I would only drive during 
non winter months.  But high maintenance costs are a concern. Hmm.

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> On Mar 18, 2022, at 10:21 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dimitri.
> I have had 2 porsches. A 912 and a 911 both 1968. 912 new and 911 1 year
> old. First wife wrecked the 912.
> I drove like an absolute idiot and the cars forgave my errors whilst giving
> me a glimpse of what a rush it was to drive.
> That said, I have worked on many-a Porsche and they rust and have high
> maintenance costs.
> In the shop where I worked, the joke was to turn off the compressor, turn
> out the lights and listen to them rust.
> YMMV
> Fred.
> 
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 9:54 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>>> A friend of mine wants to go halfsies on one.
>> 
>> With who, you?
>> 
>> The only ship that won't sail is a partnership.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Porsche?

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Yes that’s a concern. If he wants to sell the rental properties I don’t care. 
We already made a good profit on appreciation alone. If he wants to sell the 
car I don’t really care either as I wouldn’t have any serious attachment to it. 
It’s not a Mercedes after all!  I view the 911 as an investment that can be 
enjoyed. They just keep appreciating.

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> On Mar 18, 2022, at 10:21 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> The only ship that won't sail is a partnership.
> 
> 
> You need to spend most of your time on deciding what
> the exit strategy (-ies) is (are).  Do you buy each other
> out?  What if one of you loses interest or dies?  What if
> the car appreciates and A wants to cash out, but B doesn't
> want to and is remembering A's original investment, and is
> not fond of 1/2 FMV.  Etc.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1956 Mercedes-Benz 300,$18,500

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Yes. 

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> On Mar 20, 2022, at 1:08 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> 
> is that an Adenauer?
> 
>> On Sun, Mar 20, 2022, 12:35 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Cool car
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/285839720363904
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1956 Mercedes-Benz 300,$18,500

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

So do I!

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> On Mar 20, 2022, at 5:38 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> 
> I hope to see it at ChowdahQ 15.
> 
>> On Sun, Mar 20, 2022, 5:01 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Mine. Trying to get it on the road.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Mar 20, 2022, at 3:28 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> > It is. Despite the warts it would appear to be an excellent restoration 
>> > candidate if someone was looking for that sort of project.
>> > 
>> > -D
>> > 
>> >> On Mar 20, 2022, at 1:07 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> is that an Adenauer?
>> >> 
>> >>> On Sun, Mar 20, 2022, 12:35 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>> 
>> >>> Cool car
>> >>> 
>> >>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/285839720363904
>> >>> 
>> >>> --
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Re: [MBZ] More tires

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Seriously guys! Stop putting trash tires on these cars!

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> On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:21 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Agreed. I put some Kumhos on the 350SDL, or one of the last W126s I owned, 
> and was very pleased with them.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:55 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Kumhos are decent. I got a set for the $500E300 and put a few 100 miles on 
>> them before I crashed into the tree 
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
 On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've had Kumho. They are tires. They are round. The are black. No blow 
>>> outs. No weird noise. No weird vibration. I don't drive very aggressively 
>>> though, so YMMV. If I was putting them on something I drive, I'd buy them. 
>>> Something for someone who drives very aggressively or stops suddenly, I'd 
>>> read the reviews on like tire rack or discount tire.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Sent: March 20, 2022 9:34 PM
>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com
>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net
>>> Subject: [MBZ] More tires
>>> 
>>> Need to put new tires on the GL, not paying $400 a piece for Michelins.
>>> Looking at Kumho and Nexen.  Anybody used either?
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Dexter watch offer

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It’s certainly beautiful but at that price it’s probably made in China so I’d 
say no.

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> On Mar 21, 2022, at 10:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> 
> I own about a dozen retro self wind and other (mostly Wittnauer and
> Longines) wrist watches but am tempted to add this newfangled watch to my
> collection.   Should I?
> https://technigadgets.net/products/dexter-square-military-big-face-infantry-digital-watch?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_LXZ37nX9gIVSeuHCh1Irw1REAEYASAAEgJhlvD_BwE
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Re: [MBZ] More tires

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Michelin, Vredestein etc.

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> On Mar 21, 2022, at 11:20 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Define non-trash tires please.
> 
>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 11:12 AM Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Alles.
>> My late 300td '87 had new Kumhos and they only lasted 20K miles. No casing
>> failures just wore too quickly.
>> YMMV
>> Fred.
>> 
>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 8:15 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Seriously guys! Stop putting trash tires on these cars!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:21 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Agreed. I put some Kumhos on the 350SDL, or one of the last W126s I
>>> owned, and was very pleased with them.
>>>> 
>>>> -D
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:55 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kumhos are decent. I got a set for the $500E300 and put a few 100
>> miles
>>> on them before I crashed into the tree
>>>>> 
>>>>> --FT
>>>>> Sent from iFōn
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've had Kumho. They are tires. They are round. The are black. No
>>> blow outs. No weird noise. No weird vibration. I don't drive very
>>> aggressively though, so YMMV. If I was putting them on something I drive,
>>> I'd buy them. Something for someone who drives very aggressively or stops
>>> suddenly, I'd read the reviews on like tire rack or discount tire.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Rick
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>>>>> Sent: March 20, 2022 9:34 PM
>>>>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com
>>>>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>>>>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net
>>>>>> Subject: [MBZ] More tires
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Need to put new tires on the GL, not paying $400 a piece for
>> Michelins.
>>>>>> Looking at Kumho and Nexen.  Anybody used either?
>>>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] More tires

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Exactly!

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> On Mar 21, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Excellent.  I purchased a set of Vredensteins from Radial Tire because they 
> were 1) manufactured in Holland; and 2) the least pricey among all-season 
> alternatives.  
> 
>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 11:39 AM Dimitri Seretakis  
>> wrote:
>> Michelin, Vredestein etc.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Mar 21, 2022, at 11:20 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> > Define non-trash tires please.
>> > 
>> >> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 11:12 AM Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
>> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> Alles.
>> >> My late 300td '87 had new Kumhos and they only lasted 20K miles. No casing
>> >> failures just wore too quickly.
>> >> YMMV
>> >> Fred.
>> >> 
>> >> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 8:15 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >>> Seriously guys! Stop putting trash tires on these cars!
>> >>> 
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>> 
>> >>>> On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:21 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> Agreed. I put some Kumhos on the 350SDL, or one of the last W126s I
>> >>> owned, and was very pleased with them.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> -D
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>> On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:55 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> 
>> >>>>> Kumhos are decent. I got a set for the $500E300 and put a few 100
>> >> miles
>> >>> on them before I crashed into the tree
>> >>>>> 
>> >>>>> --FT
>> >>>>> Sent from iFōn
>> >>>>> 
>> >>>>>>> On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>> 
>> >>>>>> I've had Kumho. They are tires. They are round. The are black. No
>> >>> blow outs. No weird noise. No weird vibration. I don't drive very
>> >>> aggressively though, so YMMV. If I was putting them on something I drive,
>> >>> I'd buy them. Something for someone who drives very aggressively or stops
>> >>> suddenly, I'd read the reviews on like tire rack or discount tire.
>> >>>>>> 
>> >>>>>> 
>> >>>>>> Rick
>> >>>>>> 
>> >>>>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> >>>>>> Sent: March 20, 2022 9:34 PM
>> >>>>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com
>> >>>>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> >>>>>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net
>> >>>>>> Subject: [MBZ] More tires
>> >>>>>> 
>> >>>>>> Need to put new tires on the GL, not paying $400 a piece for
>> >> Michelins.
>> >>>>>> Looking at Kumho and Nexen.  Anybody used either?
>> >>>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Battery Fun

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This one is seriously impressive if you’re into the lumberjack method. And it’s 
made in Finland not China!

https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/fiskars-s-36-in-super-splitting-axe-378841-1004-1330386?store=2395&cid=Shopping-Google-Organic_Feed-Product-1330386&cid=Shopping-Google-LOB-Local_Feed&utm_medium=Google&utm_source=Shopping&utm_campaign=LOB&utm_content=Local_Feed&gbraid=0AD3fmFPI49mXQrWvxVxqp-Ajm1mGC&gclid=CjwKCAjwiuuRBhBvEiwAFXKaNBnn-Q1NDXYMDTog-o8O5XtoAq4icj6h_V0MsW4ViryXkhdGtfPLdBoCmx0QAvD_BwE

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> On Mar 23, 2022, at 9:20 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Which reminds me, my buddy has been farting around with his log splitter for 
> awhile. It won't crank at all. Battery reads 12.xv and doesn't drop at all 
> under load that he can see. Figures it's locked up, it'd sat outside awhile.
> 
> He goes and buys a Harbor Freight 13hp, guess what, that won't crank either. 
> Jump it off the truck and it starts just fine.
> 
> I think his problem is his el-cheapo Harbor Freight meter. I've had the cheap 
> ones and they're junk. The $30 one is surprisingly good but the $6 one, not 
> so much.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Tuesday, March 22, 2022, 09:55:26 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> Failing batteries can cause all sorts of anomalies.
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022, at 7:00 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> SL500 was acting up, not wanting to stay charged. I figured it was 
>> because it’s rarely driven these days. Finally got to the point today 
>> where it wouldn’t tale a charge, period.
>> 
>> Hauled the 4+ year old flooded cell H8 down to the Advanced Auto and 
>> was pleased to see the last of the long-timers still there. I waited 
>> for him so he could check the battery, and it was kaput.
>> 
>> I put a two year battery in it as I’m planning on selling the car soon. 
>> He was trying to find me something cheaper but I told him not to 
>> bother, as I didn’t want to have to run around to another store, but 
>> would just go with the cheapest one they had (the two year “silver”).
>> 
>> For those of you who might frequent Advance for batteries, it’s been 
>> near impossible to get a promo code that will work on a battery any 
>> more. I bemoaned the fact to this guy and he was able to put in a $17 
>> discount on the sale from some obscure code. Nice.
>> 
>> What’s interesting is that I was having all sorts of weird faults, no 
>> doubt due to the voltage dropping into the basement when stuff got 
>> turned on. I ran the DAS on it when I got everything finished and 
>> cleared all the faults, so all is well now.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Battery Fun

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No vibrations I promise.

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> On Mar 23, 2022, at 10:24 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> I prefer a wooden handle, I think the fiberglass send more vibrations. I do 
> like that that one has a 36" handle, too many of them are too short.
> 
> I've got one of these: 
> https://www.hardwarestore.com/brands/651025-vulcan-34524-wood-splitting-maul-12-lb-head-steel-handle-27-in-oal.html?ps=004&gclid=CjwKCAjwiuuRBhBvEiwAFXKaNFPw8bRgM1etm2BXtegQpAb3ZxUC-TdgqAM1Ek3yU4J8KBx88up5nxoCpFYQAvD_BwE
> 
> Sometimes it's hard to tell who is in charge when swinging something that 
> heavy.
> 
> 
> -Cuft
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, March 23, 2022, 10:18:09 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> This one is seriously impressive if you’re into the lumberjack method. And 
> it’s made in Finland not China!
> 
> https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/fiskars-s-36-in-super-splitting-axe-378841-1004-1330386?store=2395&cid=Shopping-Google-Organic_Feed-Product-1330386&cid=Shopping-Google-LOB-Local_Feed&utm_medium=Google&utm_source=Shopping&utm_campaign=LOB&utm_content=Local_Feed&gbraid=0AD3fmFPI49mXQrWvxVxqp-Ajm1mGC&gclid=CjwKCAjwiuuRBhBvEiwAFXKaNBnn-Q1NDXYMDTog-o8O5XtoAq4icj6h_V0MsW4ViryXkhdGtfPLdBoCmx0QAvD_BwE
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> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2022, at 9:20 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Which reminds me, my buddy has been farting around with his log splitter 
>> for awhile. It won't crank at all. Battery reads 12.xv and doesn't drop at 
>> all under load that he can see. Figures it's locked up, it'd sat outside 
>> awhile.
>> 
>> He goes and buys a Harbor Freight 13hp, guess what, that won't crank either. 
>> Jump it off the truck and it starts just fine.
>> 
>> I think his problem is his el-cheapo Harbor Freight meter. I've had the 
>> cheap ones and they're junk. The $30 one is surprisingly good but the $6 
>> one, not so much.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Tuesday, March 22, 2022, 09:55:26 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> Failing batteries can cause all sorts of anomalies.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022, at 7:00 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> SL500 was acting up, not wanting to stay charged. I figured it was 
>>> because it’s rarely driven these days. Finally got to the point today 
>>> where it wouldn’t tale a charge, period.
>>> 
>>> Hauled the 4+ year old flooded cell H8 down to the Advanced Auto and 
>>> was pleased to see the last of the long-timers still there. I waited 
>>> for him so he could check the battery, and it was kaput.
>>> 
>>> I put a two year battery in it as I’m planning on selling the car soon. 
>>> He was trying to find me something cheaper but I told him not to 
>>> bother, as I didn’t want to have to run around to another store, but 
>>> would just go with the cheapest one they had (the two year “silver”).
>>> 
>>> For those of you who might frequent Advance for batteries, it’s been 
>>> near impossible to get a promo code that will work on a battery any 
>>> more. I bemoaned the fact to this guy and he was able to put in a $17 
>>> discount on the sale from some obscure code. Nice.
>>> 
>>> What’s interesting is that I was having all sorts of weird faults, no 
>>> doubt due to the voltage dropping into the basement when stuff got 
>>> turned on. I ran the DAS on it when I got everything finished and 
>>> cleared all the faults, so all is well now.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W211 Wanted

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Is the 350 engine the one with problems?

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> On Mar 24, 2022, at 3:40 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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> I’m likely going to look more towards an E350 from 2008-on.
> 
> The 2009 and 2010 are nicely appointed.
> 
> -D
> 
> On Mar 24, 2022, at 3:31 PM, Dwight Giles 
> mailto:dwight.gi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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> I love my 2005 E320 4matic.  Check on recalls-mine had fuel tank recall which 
> MB replaced. Also weather sttripping on the sunroof-mine checked out fine.
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
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> On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 1:23 PM dan penoff.com via 
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> The search for a replacement for Mrs. Dan’s SL500 has begun. She wants a 
> sedan, so I’m on the hunt for a nice W211 E320. No diesels, wagons, projects, 
> or E55s, thank you. Low miles and cosmetics are what I’m after, with a budget 
> of around $5k.
> 
> These are surprisingly sparse around my market right now, I’m not sure why.
> 
> If you see one that looks nice, let me know if you would.
> 
> Thanks!
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Re: [MBZ] Retired

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Hope to see you at ChowdahQ!

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> As of 1730 March 18, 2022, my 37 year career of making ‘lectricity was done. 
> It hasn’t sunk in yet, I still feel like I’m just taking time off. 
> What few, basic plans that we made for what we wanted to do upon retiring 
> have had the Kabash thrown on them for the time being now that we are in the 
> throes of eldercare. 
> I start my cancer treatments in two weeks. Six weeks of living in San Diego. 
> It will be good to get this taken care of. 
> Right now I feel like I have the fat kid plate at the Boo-fay. I’ll be glad 
> when some of these things start coming off. 
> What are my first tasks is trying to convince SWMBO that we need to make a 
> circuit of the United States ensuring that we get to New England around 
> September Chowder Q time. 
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Re: [MBZ] OT How far can a Nissan Murano go with no coolant?

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A friend’s wife has a murano. They are known for premature engine failure- they 
burn excessive amounts of oil. He had the engine rebuilt. Andrew-  this is Gaël 
I’m referring to.

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> Put him in for a Darwin award.
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>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 3:59 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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>> Was driving this afternoon, there was NM in front of me, I smelled
>> coolant then noticed it was spraying out from under the NM.  I caught up
>> to the car (it was going 50 in a 35) and honked several times and was
>> waving to pull over.  Did not do that, was still spewing some coolant at
>> that point.  A coupla miles down the road we hit the backup at a light,
>> no more coolant spewing, so I got out and went up to the guy and told
>> him what I was seeing, his car was probably overheating and he should
>> pull over and stop.  He looks at the temp gauge and it is stuck a the
>> bottom on C, he says well it looks OK.  I say well I'm guessing you have
>> no coolant so the sensor is not seeing coolant temperature, you need to
>> pull over and shut off the car before you destroy the engine.  Light
>> changes, he gets back in and takes off with a bit of steam blowing out
>> the bottom of the radiator or a hose or something.
>> 
>> Oh well, I tried...
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Re: [MBZ] OT How far can a Nissan Murano go with no coolant?

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Possibly that too. Don’t most or all CVTs generally fail early. 

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> On 2022-03-25 21:44, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
>> A friend’s wife has a murano. They are known for premature engine
>> failure- they burn excessive amounts of oil. He had the engine
>> rebuilt. Andrew-  this is Gaël I’m referring to.
> 
> I thought they were known for premature CVT failure.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: '86 Alfa, anyone?

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A very close friend in Greece has one of these. It’s a incredibly real driving 
experience. He, by choice,  rarely drives straight- just sideways drifting! As 
a matter of fact, I recently purchased and mailed to him a rebuilt steering box 
as he couldn’t source an affordable one in Europe!

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> Burning the $20k would be a lot easier and quicker. Like a sharp stick in 
> the eye.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2022, at 4:45 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Or would you rather just set fire to $20K?
>> 
>> https://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/d/bloomington-1986-alfa-romeo-graduate/7461064805.html
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