[MBZ] From Greenwire -- AIR POLLUTION: EPA issues guidance for diesel engine NOx controls
This Greenwire story was sent to you by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [1]Greenwire An EE Publishing Service Greenwire -- Friday, March 30, 2007 AIR POLLUTION: EPA issues guidance for diesel engine NOx controls Daniel Cusick, Greenwire reporter Tens of millions of tons of diesel fuel pollution, including nitrogen oxides (NOx) and particulate matter, could be reduced under new U.S. EPA guidance that allows automakers to install selective catalyst reduction (SCR) technology on diesel-powered cars and trucks, the agency said today. The [2]guidance, issued this week in a 10-page memo from Karl J. Simon, EPA's acting compliance and innovative director, to automakers, will help manufacturers comply with tough new emissions standards for NOx emitted from diesel engines. The standard, set at 0.20 grams of NOx per brake horsepower-hour, is being phased in between model years 2007 to 2010, according to EPA. NOx is a primary component of ground-level ozone, the nation's leading air pollution threat, and is also a precursor pollutant in the formation of fine particulate matter, or soot, that affects millions with asthma, bronchitis or other lung ailments. Since EPA published its diesel engine NOx standard in 2001, engine makers have experimented with a variety of technologies to control the pollutant. Selective catalytic reduction, which is already widely used to control NOx from area source emitters such as industrial plants, ultimately won favor with EPA and manufacturers because it can achieve as high as 90 percent reductions in NOx. In a release, EPA said the new guidance on emission certification procedures for on-road diesel engines using SCR technology helps pave the way for putting more innovative and fuel-efficient clean diesel cars and trucks on America's roads. While endorsing the move toward greater use of SCR on diesel engines, Simon noted that the technology is still evolving and added that EPA reserves the right to make any necessary changes to the guidance as conditions warrant. One concern about SCR's use in motor vehicle engines is that the technology requires regular replenishment of a NOx reducing agent, usually ammonia or urea, to be effective. If an engine were to run out of its reducing agent while in use, its NOx reduction capability would drop to zero, according to EPA. Because the NOx efficiency and thus the NOx emissions performance of an SCR system is so dependent upon a nitrogen-containing reducing agent, it is critical than a vehicle using SCR never operate without the reducing agent, Simon wrote in the guidance letter. Yet many manufacturers have warned that they would not be able to store sufficient volumes of ammonia or urea on a motor vehicle to allow for federally recommended maintenance intervals of between 100,000 and 150,000 miles. As such, It may be appropriate for EPA to approve an industry-wide scheduled maintenance change, as we have done previously in similar situations, the guidance states. Manufacturers will need to gain approval for their SCR strategies as part of the EPA certification process. Among the other requirements for certification are driver warning systems and inducement measures, a track record of system durability and reliability, and reducing agent quality and availability, EPA said. Diesel engine manufacturers, represented by the Diesel Technology Forum, have assured that all new engines being produced for highway use will meet EPA's air pollution standards, including for NOx and particulate matter. In January, the group announced that all new big rigs are equipped with innovative new PM-trapping filters and that NOx emissions have also been significantly cut due to improved technology. The enginemakers said model year 2007 trucks are 90 percent cleaner than the previous generation of trucks. Allen Schaeffer, director of the Diesel Technology Forum, said this morning that the new SCR guidance comes after nearly two years of conversations between EPA and enginemakers over how to make further reductions in NOx emissions. He said it sets the stage closer to a time when we'll have even cleaner diesel engines that are delivering even higher fuel efficiency. Dieter Zetsche, chairman of DaimlerChrysler and head of its Mercedes car division, also issued a statement saying his company welcomes and supports EPA's guidance on SCR technology for on-road diesel engines, adding it serves to reinforce diesel's benefit as a viable alternative to help reduce fuel consumption and ultimately, reduce oil imports. [3]Click here to read the diesel engine guidance memo. Want more stories like this every day? Sign up for a free trial and get the best environmental and energy policy coverage available. Go to [4]http://www.eenews.net/trial/
[MBZ] From Greenwire -- BIOFUELS: Some restaurants try dishing up home-cooked energy
This Greenwire story was sent to you by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personal message: The end is near for greasers ** BIOFUELS: Some restaurants try dishing up home-cooked energy (Wednesday, June 11, 2008) Used vegetable oil from restaurant deep fryers has long been waste that restaurants paid to have trucked away. But times are changing. Skyrocketing fuel costs have allowed some restaurant owners to avoid disposal costs by giving the waste oil to car enthusiasts who have found ways to run it through their engines. And some grease bandits have even been known to tap restaurant grease vats and siphon off the valuable stuff. And soon, restaurant owners may have a new option. Enter Vegawatt -- a diesel engine that burns used cooking oil to generate electricity and preheat water for cooking and cleaning. Now being site-tested by Boston-based Owl Power Co., the system is designed to give restaurant owners the benefits from their used fuel that might otherwise go to motorists. Right now, the biodiesel folks and the grease car folks are getting that oil for free, and restaurants are actually giving that away, and it has a lot more value than they realize, said Chad Joshi, Owl Power's chief executive. Joshi estimates that with a Vegawatt unit, a typical burger joint or doughnut store can save 20 cents in disposal costs per gallon of used oil, while generating electricity worth $2.20 and, by using the engine's waste heat to pre-warm water used in the restaurant, avoid 60 cents in natural gas costs. Many restaurants store waste oil in 55-gallon drums or other large containers for disposal, and Owl Power's unit would replace that, Joshi said. Currently seeking beta testers in the Boston area, the company plans to start leasing the units in the fall for about $400 per month, Joshi said. Energy savings at the target facilities would be $700 to $850 per month, depending on how much fry oil the restaurant uses. Supersized potential? The company is talking with big names, including McDonald's and Chili's Grill and Bar, as well as independent Chinese restaurants and other shops, and is targeting any chain that you could name, Joshi said. There are over a million restaurants in the U.S., and about 25 percent would be candidates for having one or more of our units, he said. Chili's representatives did not return a call requesting comment. Veggie oil disposal companies typically model their businesses on converting used oil to biodiesel, according to Joshi. Since those companies have significant infrastructure costs to collect and transport the fuel, he thinks Owl Power has a competitive advantage, even if the price of diesel goes high enough that disposal companies would be willing to pay restaurants for the waste oil. For eateries eager to flaunt their green credentials, reusing fry oil on-site could be as tempting as a to-go bag of doughnut holes. Of course, since disposers also make fuel from the grease, the eco-credentials of the two processes would be roughly comparable. But generating electricity from fryer power has a ring of eco-cachet that could prove irresistible in today's marketing climate. Joshi said Owl Power is privately held by himself and company President James Peret and will be looking for new funding and partners over the next year to expand nationwide. If the business takes off, it could spell bad news for greasers, the auto hobbyists who modify diesel engines to accept vegetable oil. Running a car on the stuff requires tricky switching between a starter fuel like biodiesel and the fry grease, but a slew of Web sites and user groups exist to help novices figure out how to convert their cars and where to find friendly restaurateurs who can help them power up. Converting a car to run on veggie oil is illegal, violating emissions rules in the Clear Air Act. Vegetable oil has not been registered as a motor oil diesel fuel, said an EPA spokeswoman, so selling the stuff is also an offense, though giving it away does not appear to be regulated at the federal level. Rather than get involved in the shady world of grease theft and back alley car conversions, restaurant owners may well take to the idea of using their own, home-cooked energy. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car collection
The prices at Barrett Jackson auctions for 50s and 60s muscle cars are VERY strong right now. A stripped down 'Cuda fetched over $50K, although it was so clean you could eat off it. On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:03 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Mid 50s. oh people have being paying money for gaudy crap long after that!! How about some fake wire wheels for that 80s Caddy, or some nice 24 for that Impala. hee hee. And it's still shocking to think of some of the junk people hung off their Mercedes and Porsches in the 80-90s. Ed 300E 2009/9/23 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net in mid-fifties, and actually had people paying extra money for that gaudy crap added onto the backs of their cars. Gaudy crap? 50's? Yeah, sounds about right to me. Goes with all the chrome and the jet nacelles. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090923/db5ec5e3/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090924/63608e8b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car collection
The prices at Barrett Jackson auctions for 50s and 60s muscle cars are VERY strong right now. A stripped down 'Cuda fetched over $50K, although it was so clean you could eat off it. On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:03 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Mid 50s. oh people have being paying money for gaudy crap long after that!! How about some fake wire wheels for that 80s Caddy, or some nice 24 for that Impala. hee hee. And it's still shocking to think of some of the junk people hung off their Mercedes and Porsches in the 80-90s. Ed 300E 2009/9/23 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net in mid-fifties, and actually had people paying extra money for that gaudy crap added onto the backs of their cars. Gaudy crap? 50's? Yeah, sounds about right to me. Goes with all the chrome and the jet nacelles. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090923/db5ec5e3/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090924/521beb91/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Political Statement for the Day (OnT)
Some drs. are not in it for the money. Doctors Without Borders, for example. I always support them if modestly. Y -- Sent from myMail app for Android Saturday, 29 March 2014, 00:34PM -0400 from dsereta...@yahoo.com: If you look at the exorbitant cost of medical school, the insane number of years of training( 7-12 years after college) and the number of hours per week working during that training (80-120) for miserable pay, then every doctor should be entitled to at least a new Mercedes! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 29, 2014, at 11:43 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: That's actually a good thing isn't it? Where is it written that every physician has to be wealthy. On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Q: What´s the difference between an Obamacare HMO physician and a seagull? A: A seagull can still make a significant deposit on a Mercedes. ba-da-boom, I'll be here all week... --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Installed used relay in '84 300D
Need to organize my garage first. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Sunday, 30 March 2014, 00:01AM -0400 from Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com: My goal this summer during car season is accomplishing something that merits a Wiltonian Attaboy! An Honorable goal, Indeed! Go for Broke! Andrew! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
No trunk - this is a 300td (wagon) . -- Sent from myMail app for Android Wednesday, 02 April 2014, 04:31PM -0400 from OK Don okd...@gmail.com: The light in the trunk is another possible culprit. You don't notice that it's stuck on. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: If i were the antenna then wouldn't the mast extend? On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: You would know in a few hours if the GP relay is stuck as it will completely drain the battery. If it is some other power drain it might take longer. Could also be power antenna? --R On 4/2/14 3:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I will wait another 10 days befoe trying to start the car again, to see if I have a drain. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Thats how I ALWAYS do it! You want exciting jump start a 6v tractor off a 12v truck... -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 21:52:42 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD Message-ID: CAC35L=tm1F6wWkCdC= xu8hu1w6a+vgi+wmsxopq7q2kd0kb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That's exactly how I did it! On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD
No trunk - this is a 300td (wagon) . -- Sent from myMail app for Android Wednesday, 02 April 2014, 04:31PM -0400 from OK Don okd...@gmail.com: The light in the trunk is another possible culprit. You don't notice that it's stuck on. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: If i were the antenna then wouldn't the mast extend? On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: You would know in a few hours if the GP relay is stuck as it will completely drain the battery. If it is some other power drain it might take longer. Could also be power antenna? --R On 4/2/14 3:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I will wait another 10 days befoe trying to start the car again, to see if I have a drain. On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Thats how I ALWAYS do it! You want exciting jump start a 6v tractor off a 12v truck... -Curt Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 21:52:42 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Battery charger bright sparks - W123 300TD Message-ID: CAC35L=tm1F6wWkCdC= xu8hu1w6a+vgi+wmsxopq7q2kd0kb...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 That's exactly how I did it! On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Tis a good idea to connect the battery charger to the terminals and THEN switch on the charger, more importantly switch off battery charger and then remove the clips from battery. Hendrik who has an el cheapo charger ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The insurance I wish I had
I did. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Monday, 07 April 2014, 11:14PM -0400 from Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com: Yeah, there's a line stretching forever to become American citizens... Andrew, Did you see either of the 2 emails (offlist) I sent you about the wheels, or the later email asking if you had seen either of the first two? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Photo of 1985 49 state version W123 engine bay
That is a huge help. Thanks so much. May I have your turbocharger please? I really need one. ;) -- Sent from myMail app for Android Friday, 11 April 2014, 10:29PM -0400 from Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com: Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 09:36:43 -0400 From: astrasfo...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Photo of 1985 49 state version W123 engine bay That would be awesome - thanks! Please focus on the location of the turbocharger. Sorry it took me so long. Here ya go. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/z1zkopqlbvs14kz/0h5z5GtUBS Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Squirrels and Forest Fires [was: Re: ULSD now Ethanol]
I didn't think any of you troglodytes would notice. . -- Friday, 18 April 2014, 01:53PM -0400 from Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net: Andrew: Never use a preposition to end a sentence with! Greg, unofficial Grammar Police. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 7:36 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Squirrels and Forest Fires [was: Re: ULSD now Ethanol] What bait am I supposed to rise to? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Chapel Hill, NC
LOL! -- Saturday, 19 April 2014, 11:59PM -0400 from Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com: Let me put it this way. These poodles get excited about hunting cats about 10x what wakes you up each day. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 19, 2014 9:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Is poodle a local tree or a hairdo? On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: My wife's sister lives in CH but she is sitting here next to me under a big poodle. Daughter is in Gboro, driving an SD down here tomorrow --R (sent from my miniPad) On Apr 19, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Thanks, Wilton. Dan On Apr 19, 2014, at 5:49 PM, WILTON wrote: Tim Crone lives in Chapel Hill. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com ; Banned List ban...@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 5:09 PM Subject: [MBZ] Chapel Hill, NC Isn't someone on the list a resident of this area? There's what appears to be a really nice 300TD for sale there with a manny tranny. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] grid
Now I want one too, -- Saturday, 19 April 2014, 11:52PM -0400 from Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com: Or this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/321378831193?redirect=mobile http://m.ebay.com/itm/321378831193?nav=SEARCH Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Rick Hawkins Java Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 10:18 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] grid how about some grid like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Plastic-Replacement-Grid-for-15-Drip-Tray-Draft-Beer-Tray-Prevent-Splashing-/280928527836?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4168a525dc thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
That I can try on my own - great idea. -- Saturday, 19 April 2014, 11:28PM -0400 from Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net: Rick Hawkins Java wrote: OK, I SAY that no matter what the height of your springs you can adjust the rod to the control valve to put the valve lever to the neutral position if that's where you want it I'd still like to know what makes Andy's wagon go boing, boing, boing. Would having too high a spring rate on the steel springs cause it to be oversprung and underdamped to the point where it would fail a does it bounce more than twice? test? More to the point of passing safety inspection, does it get better or worse with ten bags of softener salt in the back? Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
Why not? -- Tuesday, 22 April 2014, 00:34PM -0400 from Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net: Spring compressor not needed for rears, only fronts. You need a jack and some jack stands. Harbor Freight is your friend. Fatty is your springie thingie friend. --R On 4/22/14 12:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I need a lift and a spring compressor, plus new springs and a replacement valve. Need to order the parts first... On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: You want me to swing by, help turn some wrenches? No spring compressor required. Wednesday night, be there about 7 or 8? Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 21, 2014 11:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Are flying up to DC. for the weekend with your spring compressor by any chance? On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: Great idea! If Andrew owns a floor jack and a couple sets of axle stands (Four total), he can take the springs from the good car and install in bad car to see if the problem is solved. Easy-peasy to swap them, loosen the strut mounts at the bottom, jack up the rear at the differential and the springs basically fall out. Reverse procedure to install. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 21, 2014 4:05 AM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: So can't you swap springs from the 83 to 85? The SLS relies on both the springs and struts to share the load, so essentially if your spring is weak more load is carried on the struts. Hendrik who knows very little about SLS systems On 21/04/14 07:57, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: So I loaded an 80 sack of Sakrete into the rear deck and did the bounce test. Bouncy as usual. :( Then I checked the 83 wagon and it was way harder to push down in the rear - far stiffer - and there was no residual bouncing after I did my pushing down on the rear deck.. Presumably it has the correct springs, but is this relevant? I am leaning toward replacing the rear valve, although I might be persuaded to change the springs as well. Or change those first. Anyone? Andrew 1983 and 1985 300TDs On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 12:57 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: OK, I SAY that no matter what the height of your springs you can adjust the rod to the control valve to put the valve lever to the neutral position if that's where you want it Yes, but that doesn't center the travel of the suspension so that it doesn't bounce off the upper end's stops. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
First I need to confirm diameter of springs in the other wagon. -- Tuesday, 22 April 2014, 01:03PM -0400 from Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I need a lift and a spring compressor, plus new springs and a replacement valve. Need to order the parts first... I don't think you need a compressor in the back, even with sedan springs. Was Max possibly offering to help you yank the springs out of the good car and stick them in the bouncy car to see if they caused the bounce? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] sls troubles
Service manual says otherwise. -- Tuesday, 22 April 2014, 01:03PM -0400 from Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I need a lift and a spring compressor, plus new springs and a replacement valve. Need to order the parts first... I don't think you need a compressor in the back, even with sedan springs. Was Max possibly offering to help you yank the springs out of the good car and stick them in the bouncy car to see if they caused the bounce? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D
Yes, yes, no. -- Wednesday, 23 April 2014, 03:51PM -0400 from Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com: From: Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 9:27 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Fog Lights 91 300D I should be on the green list, if you have one. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 12:52 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.comwrote: Yeah. I was getting suspended for bounces from anyone with yahoo dot com email addresses . I had to white list Dimitri, Curt, and Fred. Anyone I forgot? Green list... Hmm. Environmentally green? Green tea affectionado? Favorite smoking materials are green? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Desperately seeking turbo + finder's fee!
Doesn't Fit -- Friday, 25 April 2014, 03:10PM -0400 from Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net: Why can't you put one from a pre 85 car on it? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 25, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: BTDT. Best I could find was a rebuilt unit for $700.00 :( On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: http://www.car-part.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi On 25/04/2014 1:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I am offering a finder's fee to anyone who can locate a functioning turbocharger from a *1985* W123 wagon, coupe, or sedan. No other MY will do. I will pay a reasonable price for the turbo, and in addition will reward the broker with one (1) jar of my internet-famous jalapeno pepper jelly, made from all-natural resources, including peppers grown organically in the northwest Washington, D.C. This incomparable condiment suits all political persuasions: goes great with brie cheese (for liberals), oatmeal (pour les Francais), and roast chicken and griled lamb chops (RWers). I need this part ASAP - the turbo I purchased is defective and there is no replacement. Thanks in advance, and may the scavenger hunt begin. Andrew 1983 300TD - runs great 1985 300TD - runs like a slug ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Desperately seeking turbo + finder's fee!
Yeah. -- Friday, 25 April 2014, 03:03PM -0400 from Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca: Maybe, but I have to admit that I wonder why you have 2 MB wagons. Surely one would be sufficient for your needs. Given that the 85 seems to be a problem, it might be much easier for you if you swapped it for something that was more common and less trouble to source pieces for. On 25/04/2014 1:44 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: If I do, there goes the conversation piece. On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: 1. get it 2. install it 3. SELL that car NOW On 25/04/2014 1:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: BTDT. Best I could find was a rebuilt unit for $700.00 :( On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: http://www.car-part.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi On 25/04/2014 1:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I am offering a finder's fee to anyone who can locate a functioning turbocharger from a *1985* W123 wagon, coupe, or sedan. No other MY will do. I will pay a reasonable price for the turbo, and in addition will reward the broker with one (1) jar of my internet-famous jalapeno pepper jelly, made from all-natural resources, including peppers grown organically in the northwest Washington, D.C. This incomparable condiment suits all political persuasions: goes great with brie cheese (for liberals), oatmeal (pour les Francais), and roast chicken and griled lamb chops (RWers). I need this part ASAP - the turbo I purchased is defective and there is no replacement. Thanks in advance, and may the scavenger hunt begin. Andrew 1983 300TD - runs great 1985 300TD - runs like a slug ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Desperately seeking turbo + finder's fee!
Which one fits my car? -- Friday, 25 April 2014, 03:15PM -0400 from Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com: http://www.maxspeedingrods-store.com/MERCEDES-turbo-cartridges_c94.htm Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 14:03:52 -0400 From: astrasfo...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Desperately seeking turbo + finder's fee! I am offering a finder's fee to anyone who can locate a functioning turbocharger from a *1985* W123 wagon, coupe, or sedan. No other MY will do. I will pay a reasonable price for the turbo, and in addition will reward the broker with one (1) jar of my internet-famous jalapeno pepper jelly, made from all-natural resources, including peppers grown organically in the northwest Washington, D.C. This incomparable condiment suits all political persuasions: goes great with brie cheese (for liberals), oatmeal (pour les Francais), and roast chicken and griled lamb chops (RWers). I need this part ASAP - the turbo I purchased is defective and there is no replacement. Thanks in advance, and may the scavenger hunt begin. Andrew 1983 300TD - runs great 1985 300TD - runs like a slug ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Desperately seeking turbo + finder's fee!
Not a fan, although once owned a 78 450 SL C. -- Friday, 25 April 2014, 04:42PM -0400 from Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca: How about a nice SL? On 25/04/2014 3:38 PM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah. -- Friday, 25 April 2014, 03:03PM -0400 from Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca : Maybe, but I have to admit that I wonder why you have 2 MB wagons. Surely one would be sufficient for your needs. Given that the 85 seems to be a problem, it might be much easier for you if you swapped it for something that was more common and less trouble to source pieces for. On 25/04/2014 1:44 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: If I do, there goes the conversation piece. On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: 1. get it 2. install it 3. SELL that car NOW On 25/04/2014 1:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: BTDT. Best I could find was a rebuilt unit for $700.00 :( On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: http://www.car-part.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi On 25/04/2014 1:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I am offering a finder's fee to anyone who can locate a functioning turbocharger from a *1985* W123 wagon, coupe, or sedan. No other MY will do. I will pay a reasonable price for the turbo, and in addition will reward the broker with one (1) jar of my internet-famous jalapeno pepper jelly, made from all-natural resources, including peppers grown organically in the northwest Washington, D.C. This incomparable condiment suits all political persuasions: goes great with brie cheese (for liberals), oatmeal (pour les Francais), and roast chicken and griled lamb chops (RWers). I need this part ASAP - the turbo I purchased is defective and there is no replacement. Thanks in advance, and may the scavenger hunt begin. Andrew 1983 300TD - runs great 1985 300TD - runs like a slug ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such,
Re: [MBZ] Desperately seeking turbo + finder's fee!
Not really. Too expensive or wrong year -- Friday, 25 April 2014, 03:36PM -0400 from Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com: http://www.ebay.com/itm/77-85-Mercedes-300D-300SD-300CD-W123-W126-Diesel-Turbo-Turbocharger-/181350860703 http://www.ebay.com/itm/84-85-MERCEDES-300D-TURBO-TURBOCHARGER-125778-/121136440135?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessoriesfits=Year%3A1985 |Make%3AMercedes-Benz|Model%3A300TD|Submodel%3ABase|Engine+-+Liter_Display%3A3.0Lhash=item1c344b6347vxp=mtr http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/135489-turbo-cartridge-replacement.html http://www.ebay.com/itm/123-126-300D-300CD-30SD-Turbo-Diesel-Turbocharger-Turbo-Assembly-Excellent-/121163191370?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorieshash=item1c35e3944avxp=mtr http://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-300SD-TURBO-FROM-1984-AND1985-/380281512256?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorieshash=item588a8b6140vxp=mtr http://www.ebay.com/itm/Turbo-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300D-Federal-W-106K-/111220793091?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessorieshash=item19e5469f03vxp=mtr http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w123-e-ce-d-cd-td/1434404-diy-turbo-charger-rebuild-some-pics.html There. That should keep you busy. Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 14:03:52 -0400 From: astrasfo...@gmail.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Desperately seeking turbo + finder's fee! I am offering a finder's fee to anyone who can locate a functioning turbocharger from a *1985* W123 wagon, coupe, or sedan. No other MY will do. I will pay a reasonable price for the turbo, and in addition will reward the broker with one (1) jar of my internet-famous jalapeno pepper jelly, made from all-natural resources, including peppers grown organically in the northwest Washington, D.C. This incomparable condiment suits all political persuasions: goes great with brie cheese (for liberals), oatmeal (pour les Francais), and roast chicken and griled lamb chops (RWers). I need this part ASAP - the turbo I purchased is defective and there is no replacement. Thanks in advance, and may the scavenger hunt begin. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT OK shaker a coming
Don't worry- be happy. Who cares what the scienctists tells us. -- Wednesday, 07 May 2014, 03:31AM -0400 from arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com: Does that include global warming? Gerry On 5/6/2014 9:07 PM, Meade Dillon wrote: Yes, the new religion requires that any human activity associated with fossil fuels and / or capitalism must be labeled as evil and blamed for the soon-to-occur end of the world... Max Dillon, Charleston SC On May 6, 2014 8:45 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/05/oklahoma- earthquake-risk_n_5269280.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular Fracking frackers are fracking the place up. Hendrik who is scared by earthquakes ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT OK shaker a coming
For once we can agree... I apologize to all for the extraneous n. -- Thursday, 08 May 2014, 02:56PM -0400 from Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net: I see you dun no nuffin about Latin either. --R On 5/8/14 2:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: That sounds like yet another one of your straw men. Reduction ad absurdo. On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I just had an idea that big ol nukular fusion reactor sitting at the center of our solar system might have some effect on our weather and climate and radiation and stuff like that. And maybe in the past, and the present and future too. But since you won't answer I guess you don't know either. I am thinking that if we raise taxes on the Americans who actually pay taxes and send it to the UN for globalwarmingclimatechangedisruption initiatives things should start improving after they spend most of it flying around the globe in first class and staying at fancy hotels and eating at fancy restaurants and giving it to random third-world kleptocrats to transfer to foreign bank accounts. I am ready to step up and do my part! --R On 5/8/14 1:36 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Your question is irrelevant, or a red herring if you prefer. Whatever caused those prehistoric changes have absolutely no bearing on what we are doing to ourselves now by consuming fossil fuels at an insane rate. But it might have everything to do with the validity of your claim that climate change is something we are doing to ourselves now by consuming fossil fuels at an insane rate. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT OK shaker a coming
That too. -- Thursday, 08 May 2014, 04:57PM -0400 from Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net: Reductio ad absurdum. --R (sometimes absurd, but never dum) On 5/8/14 3:00 PM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: For once we can agree... I apologize to all for the extraneous n. -- Thursday, 08 May 2014, 02:56PM -0400 from Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net : I see you dun no nuffin about Latin either. --R On 5/8/14 2:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: That sounds like yet another one of your straw men. Reduction ad absurdo. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT OK shaker a coming
Indeed I remember them clesrly. Splendid fellows bearing gifts. A real pleasure. -- Friday, 09 May 2014, 04:57PM -0400 from WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com: I sent you a 123 grille. You met my son and grandson in DC. Grandson is now in grad school at Institut d'Etude Politique de Paris (Science Po). Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT OK shaker a coming Oh yeah, now I remember. On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 3:11 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Nom de Diesel reverts to just one name - Wilton, or sometimes two, Wilton Strickland. Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT OK shaker a coming Ok, so what's the official 4-name WIltonian nom de diesel? On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 1:48 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yep, four, if ya include Colonel. ;) (Couldn't resist.) Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitchell Haley, EA m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT OK shaker a coming Two - Wilton Wayne Three if you include Strickland? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Pepper jelly
What with, Wilton? -- Tuesday, 13 May 2014, 10:40AM -0400 from WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com: 'Had some mighty fine pepper jelly this morning. Thanks, again, Andrew! Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON To: mercedes list Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 6:06 PM Subject: Pepper jelly Received a jar of pepper jelly from Andrew here in GOLDsboro, NC, today. Many thanks! Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Pepper Jelly
What does the distance prize comprise? -- Thursday, 15 May 2014, 10:42PM -0400 from Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com: Andrew -ChowdahQ is Saturday September 13. We'd love to have you ( your pepper jelly) you might win the distance prize. Dwight On May 15, 2014 7:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Might just do that. If I run out of fuel I am sure the pj can be used as biodiesel. Date? On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey Andrew, Can we get a jar of jelly donated for ChowdaQ? Everybody's heard so much about it after all... You should drive up with it ;) -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - VW woes ---
Awesome! Keep us informed. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Wednesday, 11 June 2014, 01:11PM -0400 from OK Don okd...@gmail.com: I took the Passat in for it's two year check-up, free oil change, and a re-call for the head light connector yesterday. While they were mucking about in the engine compartment, they managed to break something somehow, but don't yet know what they did. The check engine light stays one, and relay near the engine is buzzing constantly. They gave up trying to figure it out themselves and called VW tech support today, and were told that they had fried the main engine computer and need to replace it. The parts man reports that there are no new main engine computers in the US nor in Germany at this time. They are continuing to search for one however. I told them that since the car is assembled in Tennessee, that there are indeed new parts in the US - get one. Then is occurred to me that they have new TDIs on the lot - if the part number is the same for the 2012 and the 2014, they can just pull one and let their car sit waiting for a new part! Dr. Fatty, can you look up part numbers for a 2012 VW Passat TDI SE, the main engine computer, and the same part for a 2014??? -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT _ Irene
Power went out at 5 PM yesterday. Might take days to restore. Thank you. Pepco. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2011 13:18:23 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT _ Irene Yeah, gonna be a good one in DC, I think. My sister lives just off the GW Parkway a few miles north of Mt. Vernon -- no danger of flooding, I don't think, but plenty of rain. My BIL has a boat at my Aunt's place in West River, 'round the corner from Annapolis, that's more of a worry. Never been flooded there, either, and it's pretty sheltered from the Bay, but it's going to be a LONG storm, I think. It's as big a Katrina on satellite Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT _ Irene
So who gets the credit? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 09:27:41 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT _ Irene Well, this morning, we still have power, no trees have fallen as far as I can see down the block, and there isn't any water in the basement. Lots of debris all over the place, but thats the worst of it. Its not over yet, but so far so good! Jaime On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 10:56 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: BTW, sure is quiet outside. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@** constructivity.net richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT _ Irene My knee was hurting yesterday, but the dogs could not have cared less about what was going on. I heard the lemurs at the Natl Zoo got all noodgie 15mon before the earthquake the other day though. --R On 8/27/11 10:18 PM, John Reames wrote: Speaking of cats, how are everyone's animals acting? One of the cats here was wide-eyed/complaining like something was wrong (Baltimore,MD) this morning, before we even saw any rain... -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Aug 27, 2011, at 14:29, Max Dillonmeadedillon@bellsouth.**netmeadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Irene probably won't be done with you for another 24 to 36 hours. You're welcome to evacuate to my house, cats and all, but I won't promise any about talking politics. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. andrew strasfogelastrasfogel@gmail.**com astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Already had an inch of rain in my DC back yard, and the storm is still 200+ miles to the SE... On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 1:11 PM, WILTONwilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I wish you well. Downed trees are usually our worst problem with these storms here. They knock out power, crush houses, cars, etc. Coastal and low areas have the flooding problem, of course. No fun to have a roof blow off, either. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com** To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT _ Irene Oh man, good luck down there. I just boarded up the huge opening in our attic for the whole house fan and taped up the large windows we have just in case. Gutters are clean, fridge and freezer are packed with everything we can find that will stay cold. We're under a Hurricane warning now, so they're expecting it to pass pretty close. The water is one thing, but I'm worried about all the mature trees here in our densely populated town. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo
Speaking of Advent and Cambridge/MIT, does anyone remember KLH systems? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 08:19:22 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Bang Olufsen Beomaster / Vintage Stereo My large Advents I bought in 74 are still in daily use, I had to get them re-coned about15 years ago, but that was cheap. The guy who did it said, Ah, some of the best speakers ever made. When I went to MIT a few years after I bought them, the old Advent factory was just down the street from my apartment. --R On 8/28/11 9:58 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Dan wrote: I remember the sales guys in the electronics place I worked at calling these Advent killers. I finally bought myself some advents - I always wanted advent since early '70's I have no idea how old these are - but they do alright... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] smoke stink
Ground fresh coffee beans can help absorb SOME of the odors. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:43:53 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] smoke stink On 13/09/2011 3:14 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: I would not hesitate to buy a smoker's car; have it detailed and after a month or so the smell will be gone... Not if there is ANY fabric inside. RLE What he meant to say, is that after a month or so one would get used to the smell and not really care. Ugh! Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My RustyQ Day activities
Did you test a sample for asbestos? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 15:42:56 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] My RustyQ Day activities On 12/09/2011 9:52 AM, Craig wrote: We are in the process of remodeling our kitchen, which was originally built in 1959 and apparently remodeled in 1987. As the end of a series of thoughts about asbestos, I sent a sample of linoleum off to be tested. It came back negative, but the samples of sheetrock/joint compound I sent off later turned out positive. So, last Friday and Saturday I was helped by Charles Perea of the Johnny O. Perea Foundation to take down the sheetrock, using all proper protections, including a high volume, HEPA filtered blower which sucks the air in the kitchen, filters it, and blows it out an outside window. Two very long, tiring days and we are not finished yet. Sunday morning, we went out to the '94 E420 to go to church and found it ran VERY roughly. So we got into the '95 E320 and drove off. We found the heat wasn't coming on as it should. Yesterday afternoon, I tried the E420 again, and found that it smoothed out, but had a lot of lifter noise (I did change from Castrol 10W-40 to Mobil 1, but grabbed the wrong bottle and it ended up with 2.5 quarts 15W-40 and 5 quarts 0W-40). The lifter noise quieted down after awhile. I'm thinking it was a collapsed lifter and wondering how much of a problem that will be. I noticed on the E320 that there was more airflow out the footwell vents as it was changing from heating to cooling than when it was in the heating mode. I hope that's not too hard to fix. Craig I am surprised that they did not recommend that you just leave the drywall alone or perhaps cover it with another layer of new stuff. I read some of the information on their site after your post and they seem most intent upon not disturbing any material that may include asbestos if at all possible. Not what most of us want to hear. We have vermiculite insulation in the attic out at the lake and I would love to have it gone. They (Perea) say it is best not to disburb it and that it is difficult to test and confirm that it contains or does not contain asbestos. I have thought seriously about trying to vaccuum it out of the attic but do not wish to have the dust filter down into the rooms below. The house is old enough that there is no poly vapour barrier in the ceiling so there would be cracks that might permit some to filter down. My other choice may be to put up a poly vapour barrier and then cover the ceilings with new material from below so that I have less concern about the filtering down of small particles when it is windy out etc. The kitchen is drywall so it is fairly tight with the exception of the two lights but the living room and one of the bedrooms have wooden ceilings that will not be quite as tight. I do wonder how dangerous it might be to remove it if I was careful and wore a good respirator etc. Again, my major concern is that disturbing it in the attic might cause the particles to filter down into the rooms below and I am uncertain as to how one might best prevent or clean that up after. They talk about putting poly sheeting down but it would be difficult to cover everything and then remove it without losing some of it. A professional crew with experience might know how to acccomlish that but I am afraid I might just make matters worse than they currently are. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 TD sunroof frame
What won't work? Doesn't close? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: M G trainpain2...@yahoo.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 19:32:52 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 123 TD sunroof frame OK Looks like I need a sunroof frame for a 123 TD. that's the part mounted under the roof that the sun roof slides on and the drain hoses connect to. The one on the new car is all gone on one side. Seems that Mercedes does not have any and has no plans to produce new ones so my only option is to find one from a car that is being parted out. If anyone runs across one in the southeast please let me know. Manfred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Activity
Whatever topic I raise, conversation does seem to flow freely. I like to think of myself as the Johnny Appleseed of this list. Andrew Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 12:03:40 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Activity Mostly we beat up on Andrew, almost as popular as an oil thread. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: You were a prolific bunch over the weekend. I access this list at my office only and thus generally don't see it over the weekend. Lots of new posts to read this morning. Randy _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators
Any reason to bleed the system afterwards? Each sphere is probably saturated with SLS fluid, ready to dump all over me if I am careless. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:13:00 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators It is pretty simple if I recall, you basically unscrew them and screw them back on. I think there are some nuts that tighten down or something, but it is readily apparent if you look at them. --R On 10/13/11 10:57 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I will be replacing both rear accumulators (air cells) on my 1985 300TD at a DIY MB Club tech session at a dealership this coming Saturday. Can someone please post the workshop manual descripion for this job? TIA, An drew 1983 and 1985 300TDs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators
Isn't this accomplished when the car is on a lift? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:55:50 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators This is why the procedure is to first start by releasing the pressure at the control valve. Yes, some will drain as you loosen the accumulator, but no shower is necessary. And I would also add to the explanation of the procedure, to wear old clothes and prepare to take a hydraulic fluid shower. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators
Can you recommend a good condiitioner? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:10:58 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] DIY replacement of accumulators On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: This is why the procedure is to first start by releasing the pressure at the control valve. Yes, some will drain as you loosen the accumulator, but no shower is necessary. I realize that's how it's SUPPOSED to work, but when working on the suspension of my 500SEL Euro I seem to always get a Febi shampoo anyway. ;) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Missing iBook?
Why Granada? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 13:02:20 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Missing iBook? No not me but if no one claims it... My macbook got stolen by my daughter's landlord in Granada last summer when we were visiting. --R On 10/22/11 12:31 PM, LWB250 wrote: Somebody (Rich?) sent me a white 13 iBook a couple of years ago to check out. I wasn't able to at the time since I didn't have a power supply for it. I just found it in my stuff while unpacking. If you're the owner and want it returned, drop me a PM and I'll get it on the way back to you... Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 85 Mercedes wagon Turbo Diesel Runs and Drives -$600 ( Hartland VT)
Don't waste your sympathy. Andrew is actually very content with his restored SLS and the clear exhaust stream. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 17:39:48 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 85 Mercedes wagon Turbo Diesel Runs and Drives - $600 ( Hartland VT) Poor Andrew. Should have waited for this. 1985 wagon, and none of that Californication stuff on it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 71 280SE 3.5 Coupe with 37k miles
I am not a fan of gold/black in a W111 coupe. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 17:37:24 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 71 280SE 3.5 Coupe with 37k miles Understood - a poor picture is often times worse than none at all, not to mention the pain of using the older phones. On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I was gonna take one with my old Treo phone but it has a really crappy camera in it, and moving them to the computer is a pain. --R On 7/1/11 12:40 PM, OK Don wrote: What, no photos? ;-) On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Just out on an errand and parked next to a guy with the above car, he was in his 60s, his dad bought the car new, drove it a bit, then it sat in his garage for 11yr. Gold with black. This guy got it and did some freshening on it. Can you say showroom? I knew you could. He said he needed some parts he couldn't find, I put him on to the Rustanator, so if you get a call for parts from Johns Island, I want my cut. --R -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The latest Climate change lies
They are pro incandescent. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 11:45:24 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The latest Climate change lies andrew strasfogel wrote: The price is way down on the corkscrew CFLs and while they can and do burn out after a year they aren't expensive to repair. Plus, as a bonus every time I purchase a CFL and throw out an old incandescent a Tea Bagger gags!! What in the world do CFLs have to do with your Tea Party insults? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The latest Climate change lies
Because our elected representatives know better than to enact something so idiotic. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 16:17:08 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The latest Climate change lies On 07/07/2011 3:59 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Same as seat belt and helmet laws - they are designed to promote the public welfare and save public costs at a small cost in personal freedom (the right to act recklessly?). Who pays for the hospital bills of brain-damaged unhelmeted motorcyclists without insurance? We all do, whether you realize it or not. Similarly, the cumulative savings in energy efficiency from a national perspective are worth the cost and inconvenience - as determined by your/our democratically elected representatives - of phasing out incandescent bulbs for more efficient lighting. Now come on Andrew - why not just mandate that all lights have to be turned off by 9 PM if all you want to do is save electrical power? Or we could ban bulbs bigger than 40 watts? Or how about we turn off all of the power after 9PM? We could freeze in the dark but think of the power saved! I don't buy into the nonsense about CFL bulbs. Some goofball persuaded the government that it was a good idea to promote them but it makes no sense to me at all. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The latest Climate change lies
They are anti choice for what really matters - women's rights. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 16:07:49 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The latest Climate change lies No, they are Pro-choice. Show me exactly wherein the US constitution it gives the federal gummit the power to dictate what citizens choose to buy or not buy. Same thing goes for the shovey VoltZap They are pro incandescent. andrew strasfogel wrote: The price is way down on the corkscrew CFLs and while they can and do burn out after a year they aren't expensive to repair. Plus, as a bonus every time I purchase a CFL and throw out an old incandescent a Tea Bagger gags!! What in the world do CFLs have to do with your Tea Party insults? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My new car!
Anal-ness is a great quality in a PO! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:36:24 To: Mercedes@okiebenz.comMercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] My new car! Peter wrote: I suspect you will like it a lot less when the $3000 convenience relay box goes out and the windows won't work (hopefully, with all of them up), or the door locks fry -- $500 each and four hours labor, and then a big ol charge at the dealer to reprogram them. Funky engine control problems will drive you nuts as well -- intermittent no-start with no cause, flaky crank position sensors (can only be reached from below, blind, on top of the bell housing), etc. I hope it's a long time before you have trouble! These are as bad as the W140s, which is NOT a recommendation for ownership -- most people dumped them at the end of the lease or the extended warrenty. WOW! Thanks for the vote of confidence. I just replaced my battery at my indy's and we reprogrammed windows and locks in about 20 seconds - no charge. I don't know why you have to do that, but evidently its done after replacing the battery. Based on my research on the BMW forums, I think you are mistaken about the cost of these repairs. The reliability went up fairly dramatically after the 97 model year. By the way, I talked to the service manager about this car. He knew the car. He knows the previous owner. The guy took exceptional care of the car. Evidently, he was a little neurotic and wanted the radiator cap replaced at every oil change. All work from new was done at the dealer. Including the Inspection II that was done less than 9,000 miles ago. This is a dealer service that costs between $800-1200 plus anything things that it needs. At this inspection, the dealership checked a ton of stuff (too much too list) and did the following: Changed rear differential fluid, flushed braked fluid, flushed power steering fluid, flushed coolant, replaced plugs, replaced all filters, and checked, inspected and lubed a WHOLE bunch of other things. So, Im pretty happy with the car. The previous owner was very anal and everything has been done. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] today's trivia question
1964. 230 S sedan. What's my prize7 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 09:59:28 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] today's trivia question What was the first MB model with Power Steering installed? In what year did MB first make PS available? Corollaries for extra points; What was the first American car with Power Steering available? In what year was PS first available in American cars? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PnP adventures
Very droll. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 22:29:48 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] PnP adventures PNW Land of fog and rain, and now apparently an albore speech. PEOPLE! Not everyone know where you live, which makes your otherwise trenchant weather observations quite useless unless you clue us in. On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: redghost wrote: Summer has deserted us. Once more we are seeing October weather with temps around 11c. Trade you some weather? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD
So is Bach the greatest? I call it a dead heat with Ludwig. --Original Message-- From: Craig Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com ReplyTo: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD Sent: Jul 26, 2011 12:28 AM On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 22:27:31 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Does that mean she considers it to be fugue-ish? On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: Shirley says we should call it Sebastian, as in Johann Sebastian ... No, more like toccata-ish or passacaglia-ish or maybe even chaconne-ish. :-) Craig -- Present:'95 E320Sebastian 107 kmi '94 E420Oskar 123 kmi '82 240D/3.0Bluebell 265 kmi Past: '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '64 190Dc Emma '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RUSTYQ bang bang?
My motto is Ready, shoot. aim but I pose little risk to others. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 11:18:43 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] RUSTYQ bang bang? Yes, shoot now ask questions later. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] RUSTYQ bang bang? License to ask questions latter? Walt On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:10 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Liquor license? On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: Tom I will be. No sure who else has a license. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz http://www.buymbparts.biz/ www.buyEUROparts.biz http://www.buyeuroparts.biz/ www.buyASIANparts.biz http://www.buyasianparts.biz/ Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: relng...@aol.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] RUSTYQ bang bang? Drew is coming to the RustyQ in September. Everyone come meet him... How many of these attendees will be carrying? Any lowriders other than the usual collapsed suspensions? Is a shootout possible? RLE __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD
How do the 84 and 85 300 models differ7 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: redghost redgh...@comcast.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 08:43:15 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD 1984 TD that I am going to look at today Clay On Jul 25, 2011, at 10:16 PM, kevin kraly wrote: Go for the TD! What year is it? I would think that it would still outrun Gump with the manny and NA engine. Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon -Original Message- From: redghost Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 2:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD I have actively given up on Gump. The laundry list of needs on this car really are excessive. I love her, but she is the equivalent of the aged grandma who you can continue pouring cash into the healthcare system and you only prolong her death. I have to let go and just remember the sweet times we had. Also found a nice euro TD with manual trans that fits my present needs better. Gump was wonderfully idiosyncratic, but she really needed a full body off restoration to continue living for the long term. Doing nickel and dime upgrades was not doing her the justice she deserved. The newer car is more cash, but SWMBA sees only the logic of newer being less wrong than money pit. Newer money pit, but I can get her buy off on the TD than putting that cash into Gump. She only sees Gump as always needing something and not of value for being old. I will remind her of her outlook when she reaches that advanced age where she is wearing out and needs things done. I will then point out that she has ceased to have value and I should be getting a newer model. One without the sags and wrinkles. Able to produce vigorously. clay 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jul 25, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Dang it, I can remain silent no longer. You could just stand up and say Darling I love you but I'll drive whatever I dammed well please, call Kaleb and get that engine! I've seen you give up on Gump before, I didn't believe it then and I don't believe it now. Pull those eBay ads and get to work. BTW: Walt I've got a 616 pump, $50 if you pull, central MA, 1 hour from I90... -Curt Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:27:23 -0500 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD Message-ID: 4e2d8b5b.6080...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed OR, even less controversial - how about taking up golf and playing at every opportunity and dropping $50 to $150 each time plus constantly buying new clubs etc. Not uncommon. Your good wife should learn to appreciate the fact that Gump is a hobby as much as a means of transport. Randy On 23/07/2011 9:28 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Women are just stupid that's all their is to it. These women that gripe at their men because they like cars yet they have everything they need should try a man with a cocaine habit or who likes to beat on women, then maybe they will have something to complain about Sent from my iPhone On Jul 23, 2011, at 7:25 AM, Michael Canfieldslozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Clay, Ask SWMBA this...Would she prefer that you spend your time at home wrenching on Gump where you are at her service if she needs you or hanging out at the bar with the guys tying one on? Seems your hobby could be much, much worse. Some ladies just need to come to realize that. Mike On Jul 23, 2011 2:20 AM, redghostredgh...@comcast.net wrote: Tear down and full rebuild, since there are leaks in seals and have to redo the cylinder walls. Did not look much more at the short block for cracks there. Threw in the towel since I just do not want to have the fight with SWMBA over my overly emotional attachment to Gump. Best to let her go I can always find another wife anyway. Clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
Re: [MBZ] PnP adventures
That reminds me of the Al Capp character Joe Blfstck in Lil' Abner. Wherever he went he carried around his own personal thunderstorm. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: redghost redgh...@comcast.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 08:47:02 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] PnP adventures come back Wife and I went to the other side of the mountains last weekend. (Washington has distinct climates depending on if you are being inundated by Pacific moisture or being blocked from that moisture by a mountain range. The eastern half of the state is much drier and blessed with heat.) We brought the wet with us and spent a few days with storms and temps 20f lower than average for the area. clay 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jul 25, 2011, at 10:25 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: 2 years ago I brought a July heat-wave with me to the seattle area when I visited a friend... Walt On Jul 26, 2011 1:22 AM, kevin kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote: Perpetual autumn is about it. Here in Northern Oregon, we've gotten a few days of Summer, and then it's gone. I want warmer water for boating and water-skiing! Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon -Original Message- From: redghost Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 8:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] PnP adventures Seattle is not having summer. It is having perpetual autumn. Wet and cold clay 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Jul 25, 2011, at 8:27 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: PEOPLE! Not everyone know where you live, which makes your otherwise trenchant weather observations quite useless unless you clue us in. On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: redghost wrote: Summer has deserted us. Once more we are seeing October weather with temps around 11c. Trade you some weather? Today it reached about 38c (102f). It might get down to 30c (85f) tonight. Succulent weather for a fish. Not good for hitting the PnP, but I had to see if I could source steel wheels for Gump to roll into greener pastures. I want the bundts I refinished with the new tires. So, I head over to the PnP. Be glad you have a yard to pick from. Around here, there are none. There is one yard, about 80 miles (130 km) away that sometimes has a car or two. Otherwise it's just my personal collection of parts cars. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD
Not gonna happen. I have the cleanest backup light lenses in all of D.C. What are the differences between the Federal (49 state) 84 vs. 85 models7 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 09:54:45 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:48 AM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: How do the 84 and 85 300 models differ7 '85 has the trap oxidizer. Like yours. When are you going to get it taken off? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bad trap oxidizers [was: Re: GUMP is DEAD]
Wow. How can I tell if turbo/TO are original? Would a photo help one of our resident ezperts? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 20:06:12 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Bad trap oxidizers [was: Re: GUMP is DEAD] On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 7:52 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: It's been good for 26 years. What are the odds of this happening now? Hey, don't shoot the messenger. :) But the standing lifetime recall on TO-equipped cars is there for a reason. My theory is that your car is not on either its original TO or its original turbo. D-B went through several iterations before giving up and installing the straight (actually kind of curvy) pipe that you almost always see on 603 engines. It's very likely that the TO has nothing to do with the reduced soot you're seeing with this car (which could be caused by about a dozen other, more likely things). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] reduced mpg in 91 300D
Great advice! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 21:10:41 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] reduced mpg in 91 300D That is evident by driving some distance (miles) then checking the temp of the wheels with your hand. If a brake is dragging, you WILL know it. It is also good practice to walk around occasionally during a highway stop and put your hand on the tires. One tire hotter indicates low pressure or a bad tire. Mitch Haley wrote: One more thing, since I believe this car was recently parked for a while with transmission problems: Is there an overabundance of brake dust on one wheel? Or, did somebody in the shop apply a parking brake that hadn't been used in years, and is there a stuck parking brake cable? Or DOT3 brake fluid cause a swollen hose? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sheryls old junker up for auction
Sheryl who? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:07:14 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Sheryls old junker up for auction http://www.autoweek.com/article/20110725/COLLECTOR/110729926 I would have thought she is more of a pick up truck type. Hendrik who likes some of Sheryls stuff, even some of her music ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD
Both of my US spec 300 TD wagons have rear child seats to take care of up to 3 additional offspring. Feel free to make a preemptive offer. Andrew Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 02:14:50 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD redghost wrote: This TD is a euro with no magic stuff to go wrong. Manual everywhere, much as Gump was. Oooh. My dream is a TD turbo, manual transmission, manual heater controls, power windows. I think I'll probably have to build it to actually get one. Meanwhile, the family doesn't really fit in a 123 anymore. I may have to look for something a bit bigger. *sigh* -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD
Sure, but to be fair I expect to compliment me if this calamity doesn't come to pass. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 06:06:46 To: Diesel Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD The odds of a device failing increase with every use. I'd forgotten that a failing TO destroys the turbo. If it were a case of the thing just plugging up and you having less power I'd say eh, whatever but when it takes out your turbo I'll laugh like a hyena. You've been warned, when it fails be prepared to be mocked. -Curt Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 22:52:43 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD Message-ID: CAC35L=t0bxgv1ydoqggrdmxnjned1maaguojzjms6amqdo7...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It's been good for 26 years. What are the odds of this happening now? On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:40 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: I don't like the extra stuff on the '85. Andrew seems to prefer it - but I would rather have the less refined but simpler. Andrew likes the fact that the TO on the '85 keeps his trunklid clean. He doesn't seem to care that sooner or later it will self-destruct and dump chunks of catalyst into his turbo. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD
OK. Let me phrase this slightly differently. If you were limited to ONE composer whom would you choose to listen to exclusively7 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 11:01:50 To: Mercedes@okiebenz.comMercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUMP is DEAD astrasfogel wrote: So is Bach the greatest? I call it a dead heat with Ludwig. The greatest what? The greatest composer? The greatest composer in his style/era? The term classical music is confusing because Classical is a style or period or era. J.S. Bach and Beethoven are in different eras/styles. Bach is in the Baroque era/period, it's pretty difficult to compare them. It would be like asking who is the greatest Sports figure? When the question might be who is the greatest football player? It's pretty hard to compare a football player and a tennis player. Likewise, it is difficult to compare composers from different eras/periods. So, Bach is arguably the greatest of the Baroque period/style. And arguably, Beethoven the greatest of the Classical period. EXCEPT, ole Ludwig only wrote 9 symphonies. So, I think Mozart gets the nod. Some people would include Beethoven in the Romantic period, but I think that is incorrect because his symphonies followed most of the strict formalities of the classical periods. He might be a transition between the two. For me, the greatest of the Romantic period is Wagner. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz Collection - $1500 (Rutland)
For the entire collection? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Fred Moir fred.s...@verizon.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 18:23:40 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes Benz Collection - $1500 (Rutland) Not mine, etc. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred Original Message Subject:Mercedes Benz Collection - $1500 (Rutland) Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:21:57 -0700 (PDT) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://burlington.craigslist.org/cto/2524506251.html to contact the person who posted this. Mercedes Benz Collection Date: 2011-08-01, 2:48PM Flagship Mercedes benz 560 SEL $1500. each 3 available 420 SEL 1 available, 84 300 CD, 89 300TE, 87 300 TD, 83 300TD, Tractor Trailer full of parts as well. Stop by and take a look lots of Mercedes Parts, cleaning out, serious cash buyers. Thanks for looking!! No scammers/spammers * Location: Rutland * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://burlington.craigslist.org/cto/2524506251.html /this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: /http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/U2FsdGVkX181NzM3NTczNujPzExRwN_4AvUU2n0nNxkEAPpySTvSxGBUqLOETAgMHhkuDPr3MNxToIswsDDwNA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DC
Barky? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 09:09:24 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] DC At some of the outlying stops. Problem is that they fill up with commuters, but you can check. Metro is easy and pretty quick to get into the mall or other areas. The kids would love the Natural History museum, lots of dinosaurs and other creatures on display. Kleb would probably like the one with all the old mechanical stuff (it is the really old castle looking building on the mall, forget what it is called). Don't forget to stop in and say hi to Barky, though he might still be in Chitown raising money. Don't get close enough to Harry Reid that he can smell you, he doesn't like to smell the tourists. --R Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So you can park the car at the metro and ride that to town? There is parking at the metro, right? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DC
Yes bit not free/unlimited so be careful. We are VERY efficient at parking enforcement. :) Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 08:45:57 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] DC So you can park the car at the metro and ride that to town? There is parking at the metro, right? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 4, 2011, at 7:56 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Definitely. Find a Metro stop in someplace like Rockville MD, and ride in to the city. Cheap, safe, and relatively quick. Just be sure to check the schedule, as the Metro does shut down at night. I got stranded in Georgetown bar hopping one night because the last Metro out was at midnight... Dan Sent from my iPhone On Aug 4, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Yesterday I went to the Air Space museum at Dulles Airport. Awesome. THe one in town is very cool too, but if you go there, park out somewhere and take the metro in (then you can do all the other stuff too), traffic is crazy and there is no parking anywhere. The one out there has a shuttle, SR71, and all kinds of other cool planes and rockets and stuff. $15 to park, entrance is free In general traffic is a mess morning and evenings, midday it is relatively tolerable but still heavy and stop and go in places. Our Lady of Perpetual Construction is in widespread evidence EVERYWHERE. --R Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So I think I'm going to leave Maine in the morning and its about a 10 hour drive to dc. That will leave us all day Friday before heading back home. If I have 1 day in dc what is one must see thing? Maybe just driving around seeing the sights? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Balky flasher switch or relay in W123 300TD
Easy to check, as I must have a spare switch in the garage. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 22:38:02 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Balky flasher switch or relay in W123 300TD When it gets super hot, my turn signal stops flashing. Is this more likely to be caused by the flasher relay or the rocker switch in the console? The odds are always on the switch, but you could have the exception. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Balky flasher switch or relay in W123 300TD
Capacitors in the relay? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Barry Stark barryst...@verizon.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 23:50:02 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Balky flasher switch or relay in W123 300TD Andrew - The flasher in my '81 SD had quit and I just replaced a couple of the usual old dried out electrolytic capacitors in there and it had been working fine since. I wonder if yours has a capacitor that is ready to go and sensitive to temperature? They are easy to replace. Barry When it gets super hot, my turn signal stops flashing. Is this more likely to be caused by the flasher relay or the rocker switch in the console? When the temp. cools down everything is back to normal. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] conversion of diesel-fueled engines to natural gas.
The issue here is AQ. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 09:43:41 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] conversion of diesel-fueled engines to natural gas. I have some experience with that program. About 12 years ago our local transit system converted several buses to LNG [Liquified Natural Gas] to join the clean is green movement. The engines ran OK, delivery and fill systems worked fine, however, power and mileage lost the match. Total BTU of LNG vs Diesel equation vs costs to convert, store, fill, and deal with the whole mess only worked because it was done on a government paid money is no object program. As soon as the special money ran out back to diesel. Cant imagine how that would work in todays economy for an individual with one or two vehicles, dependent upon the one LNG filling station within 100 miles of home. Your decision, don't shoot the messenger. Grant... If it's diesel, it's mine. On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Jerry Herrman jer...@san.rr.com wrote: Is it too early to ask the collective opinion of this apparently new technology that is available to retrofit current diesel engines from dinosaur-diesel fuel to clean burning natural gas? Not sure of the name of the company, but I hear that Caterpillar and Cummins will be using this technoogy. Anyone know more about this and how it works? Jerry 1982 240D Too old to convert __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6361 (20110808) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] conversion of diesel-fueled engines to natural gas.
Not old to me. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 10:46:16 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] conversion of diesel-fueled engines to natural gas. Running diesels on natural gas is old news. Been done for years in the transmission line business. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Aug 9, 2011, at 8:53 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Are we talking about running diesel engines on CNG (I'd only heard of that with spark ignition engines), or are we talking about synthesizing diesel from NG? Mitch. roger...@comcast.net wrote: Jerry, I'd switch even my old diesels for synthetic diesel. It's cleaner, more power, better mileage, but I don't expect to see it. It's better to try to create something else rather than what could be. And even our old diesels would run on synthetic diesel without costly mods. Best Wishes, Roger Hale Monroe, Ga. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I love the looks of the W108
What is that color - desert sand? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 23:51:52 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] I love the looks of the W108 This just popped up locally. http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/2529563809.html Hard to tell from these photos, but looks like it might be reasonably solid. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 450 SLC
Nice color for an S LC. AC issue sounds a bit fishy. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 23:53:49 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 450 SLC http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/2530305628.html Color looks... uneven? Again poor quality photos here. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines
Well put. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 23:14:33 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines But the US government is -- TOO BIG TO FAIL. hahahahahaha The Chinese economy would crash if can't buy all their crap. They won;t let it happen. On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: And don't forget they just bought another credit card and charged another $40,000 on it last week. I read in the past week that the U.S. can be likened to a family that makes $48,000 per year, but that spends $75,000 per year. With the latest big belt-tightening, the family is now spending $72,000 per year. All the while having a credit card balance of $384,000. Craig __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 front seats for a change
How about anthracite gray/sienna? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 06:24:15 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 front seats for a change My high line car broker buddy always told me that the combination of silver and maroon took 20% off the value of a car. Not being critical, just making the observation I could live with it myself. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Aug 8, 2011, at 9:45 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: My 87 300D has burgundy leather inside Smoke silver. It is a good combination. (But I'd prefer tex) I have the same problems. Someone was selling the MB reinforcment foam bits for these on benzworld I think. $40 per side IIRC. The problem with my seats is that the scalloping on the sides is broken, I have to replace the whole chair. At the same time the tex is worn in one place. If there is anything I have learned, rare int colors, like burgundy or high quartz should be avoided in a purchase. Beige may be dull but they are a dime a dozen at the yard. I would love leather seats but never seen burdgundy... -Rolf On 08/02/2011 06:16 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: Hey gang, how hard is it to RR the spring box in an early 124 front seat, once I have the seat out of the car? Is it enough of a pain that I am better off trying the pool-noodle fix? How does that work exactly---you wedge the noodles between the top and bottom layers of the spring box, or just between the seat and the carpet? (I'm looking at the bottom side of the rear base cushion and imagining that the fronts probably are constructed more or less the same, where the springs are not coils as in an old-fashioned mattress but look more like a network or webbing of spring steel parallel to the seat base.) Thoughts? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain,
What are warning signs for a worn-about-to-snap timing chain on a 1983 or '85 W123 turbodiesel? Andrew (300TD x 2) Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 07:45:31 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain, Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com writes: I have about 150K miles on my 87 300SDL and am wondering at what mileage, I should be planning on changing the timing chain. It is running well, except for first starts when I get a rough running for about 8 sec. with blue smoke accompanying the rough running. Smooths out quickly and runs fine. If the oil changes haven't been overextended, it's unlikely IMO that the chain would be in need of replacement at only 150K miles. Use of a diesel-rated synthetic such as M1 Turbo Diesel Truck a/k/a Delvac-1 should reduce chain wear/stretch to nearly negligible. Check it as Mitch described if you want to put your mind at ease. The rough starts could be due to a bad glow plug or two... is your dash glow lamp working properly? This will only get worse as the fall/winter arrives and temps start to drop. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain,
Is timing an issue for earlier diesel engines? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rolf r...@winmutt.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:10:14 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain, Check your timing. Rusy sells a $30 tool that makes timing the 603 a 15-20min job. -Rolf On 08/10/2011 12:29 PM, Scott and Gwen Ritchey wrote: Sounds line weak/bad glow plug(s). -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Ralph Robertson Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:07 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain, I have about 150K miles on my 87 300SDL and am wondering at what mileage, I should be planning on changing the timing chain. It is running well, except for first starts when I get a rough running for about 8 sec. with blue smoke accompanying the rough running. Smooths out quickly and runs fine. Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain,
So how/when/whY would I adjust timing on my W123 turbodiesel? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rolf r...@winmutt.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:14:10 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain, Diesel engines are all about timing. -Rolf On 08/10/2011 01:11 PM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Is timing an issue for earlier diesel engines? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rolfr...@winmutt.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:10:14 To:mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain, Check your timing. Rusy sells a $30 tool that makes timing the 603 a 15-20min job. -Rolf On 08/10/2011 12:29 PM, Scott and Gwen Ritchey wrote: Sounds line weak/bad glow plug(s). -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Ralph Robertson Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:07 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain, I have about 150K miles on my 87 300SDL and am wondering at what mileage, I should be planning on changing the timing chain. It is running well, except for first starts when I get a rough running for about 8 sec. with blue smoke accompanying the rough running. Smooths out quickly and runs fine. Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain,
In 25 years of W123 ownership, I have never heard of drip timing. Nor has any tech ever brought this up as a maintenance issue or requirement. Andrew. 1983, 1985 300TD Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rolf r...@winmutt.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:29:40 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain, Google drip timing. Once a year or so never hurts -Rolf On 08/10/2011 01:25 PM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: So how/when/whY would I adjust timing on my W123 turbodiesel? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rolfr...@winmutt.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:14:10 To:mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain, Diesel engines are all about timing. -Rolf On 08/10/2011 01:11 PM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Is timing an issue for earlier diesel engines? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rolfr...@winmutt.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:10:14 To:mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain, Check your timing. Rusy sells a $30 tool that makes timing the 603 a 15-20min job. -Rolf On 08/10/2011 12:29 PM, Scott and Gwen Ritchey wrote: Sounds line weak/bad glow plug(s). -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Ralph Robertson Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 7:07 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain, I have about 150K miles on my 87 300SDL and am wondering at what mileage, I should be planning on changing the timing chain. It is running well, except for first starts when I get a rough running for about 8 sec. with blue smoke accompanying the rough running. Smooths out quickly and runs fine. Ralph '87 300SDL '84 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain,
Great - thanks, Rolf. One last question. So how will this adjustment improve how the engine operates? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rolf r...@winmutt.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:53:24 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain, That is up for some debate. I cant see why you wouldnt be able to do it via the RIV tool port on 84 and 85's but GSXR on pp said you couldn't. Why I don't know. Its worth a try I think, unfortunately my 85 has an 83 engine... It should dead simple, similar to the steps liste in 07_1-111. Rotate the engine to the proper timing mark, stick the lock tool in (make sure the slot is horizontal to accept the tang) and then adjust the IP banck or forward until the tang pops in the slot and bam your done. -Rolf On 08/10/2011 01:37 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Rolf wrote: Diesel engines are all about timing. Do the later 617 engines take a lock tool similar to the 60x engines? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Unexplained whining noise in my W123 300TD
No and no. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 07:52:36 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Unexplained whining noise in my W123 300TD How did you hit the curb, tire tread or tire sidewall? Any damage done to the rim? Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: The swap was done back in May. Just remembered something else that might be worth mentioning - I hit the curb with my right rear wheel before the symptoms appeared. Coincidence? Irrelevant On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Went out for another drive. Noise pitch varies with engine speed, not road speed. In neutral, coasting, there the noise abates. If I apply hard throttle, there is a startling metallic grinding noise in the rear in addition to the whistle/whine coupled with the gear shifting, along with a clunk. When i ease off, it's back to normal. I like Max's explanation and will follow his suggestion. Hmm, front half of transmission? Just had an engine swap? Torque converter had better be bolted tight to the flywheel, and flywheel to crank. Torque converter failing internally might do it, but the timing would be coincidental. _ **_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/; To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com; _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Unexplained whining noise in my W123 300TD
Driveability is not affected - shifs normally. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 23:07:00 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Unexplained whining noise in my W123 300TD Went out for another drive. Noise pitch varies with engine speed, not road speed. In neutral, coasting, there the noise abates. Truly? Torque converter? Front end of tranny innards? What is the stall speed of the engine? (Jam brakes and throttle while stopped, note engine RPM.) Stripped stator splines on TC connection results in whine, low starting torque, low engine stall-speed RPM. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Unexplained whining noise in my W123 300TD
1. I cut the corner a little tight. 2. RR Tire sidewall banged into the curb but no visible damage. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 13:01:53 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Unexplained whining noise in my W123 300TD Your reply is missing something. You said you hit a curb with the right rear wheel. Q1: How did that happen? Q2: What part of the tire/wheel made contact with the curb? Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 334k miles (Off with the head!) '95 E300 292k miles (daily driving duties) '73 Balboa 20 (High dry until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: astrasfo...@gmail.com astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Mon, August 15, 2011 9:16:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Unexplained whining noise in my W123 300TD No and no. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 07:52:36 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Unexplained whining noise in my W123 300TD How did you hit the curb, tire tread or tire sidewall? Any damage done to the rim? Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: The swap was done back in May. Just remembered something else that might be worth mentioning - I hit the curb with my right rear wheel before the symptoms appeared. Coincidence? Irrelevant On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Went out for another drive. Noise pitch varies with engine speed, not road speed. In neutral, coasting, there the noise abates. If I apply hard throttle, there is a startling metallic grinding noise in the rear in addition to the whistle/whine coupled with the gear shifting, along with a clunk. When i ease off, it's back to normal. I like Max's explanation and will follow his suggestion. Hmm, front half of transmission? Just had an engine swap? Torque converter had better be bolted tight to the flywheel, and flywheel to crank. Torque converter failing internally might do it, but the timing would be coincidental. _ **_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/; To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com; ; _ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nobody has a 602 they are parting out.
What is a 602? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rolf r...@winmutt.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 14:07:24 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Nobody has a 602 they are parting out. Im almost deperate enough to pay for new from Rusty. Anyone? -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 300D fuel sender source?
I can do better. Stay tuned.,. -- Sent from myMail app for Android etter Monday, 30 June 2014, 00:10PM -0400 from ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org: hi Gerry! saw that, thanks; that's the record for the worst price so far. cheers! e On 30/Jun/14 08:28, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=m570.l3201_nkw=1983+300D+mercedes+fuel+sender_sacat=0 Scroll down. Gerry ... On 6/29/2014 11:44 AM, ernest breakfield wrote: hi Kaleb! i've sent him an e-mail directly, even though it didn't appear on the website. i've tried taking it apart to clean it up, to no avail. can't imagine it's just a matter of being dead from being dirty anyway, since it's run almost nothing but commercial B99 through it for most of the last ~115K+ miles. next time i mess with pull the thing out into the nice clean interior, i just want to put in one that's going to work. (fuel gauges that read Empty freak out the wife, and i want her to drive the thing more; i can't get her to understand that using the trip odometer to track miles traveled works just fine.) cheers! e On 29/Jun/14 06:22, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Did you try jabba the hurst? Why are you needing a new one anyway? Most of the time all you have to do is clean the old one Sent from my iPhone On Jun 29, 2014, at 2:46 AM, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: hi all! any tips on where to start looking for a Fuel Sender? local Indy says they showed up back-ordered,... i tried the Europarts website, but it didn't seem to be available,.. cheers! e ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Hillary for Prez
I'm sure that the Black Plague community would be highly insulted by your intemperate remarks! -- Sent from myMail app for Android Monday, 13 April 2015, 11:20AM -0400 from Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com: 18 min of missing tape took down nixon, and earned him the title tricky Dick. There have been any number of things pillary has done that are far worse. Where is the media outcry? The most analogous is tens of thousands of missing emails. Where are the NSA records of the missing emails?? That is far more than 18 minutes! Put pillary in the Pillories! Not to mention Billy Bob's crimes... Together they could be called the black plague Roger that. The current list could run long, if we were to treat treasonous acts as they should be treated. On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com wrote: There a whole bunch of other folks who should be brought up on treason charges also. GMANN sez: I wish to volunteer to make a Clinton vote.. as long as it is as a jury member at the treason trial for participation in the running of Libya weapons stores to Syria al queda, and the violation of state secrets act via private email server use. Otherwise, not interested in anything she does. I understand that George Zimmerman changed his name to Ben Ghazi.. notice the media now refuses to give him any notice? SNL seemed to pull out the stops I hear, for humor and entertainment by raking her over the coals.. I wonder who the democrat party will run when it gets serious finally. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] the club
Yes, a couple times a month. I even get notes on my windshield asking whether I wouldn't sell the car. so far, however, no one has asked whether I'd like to go out for a drink. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Tuesday, 07 April 2015, 11:52AM -0400 from Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com: Andrew, do you ever get people who come up and ask you about your TDs? Your cars are kept up nicely. I'd think you would get comments and compliments. I'd think there are enough MBCA members in the GW section that you would bump into to some while you are out and about. If not, I guess that is the difference with the DC kullture. (emphasis on Kull) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Video For Andrew
How is that different from a sociopath? -- Sent from myMail app for Android Friday, 10 April 2015, 05:29PM -0400 from arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com: After watching the video, I got the impression that the cop might be a psychopath. His disciplinary record during his six years in the Coast Gaurd might be interesting as well as details of his home life. Characteristics of the Psychopathic Personality Updated September 07, 2014. The study of the psychopath reveals an individual who is incapable of feeling guilt, remorse or empathy for their actions. They are generally cunning, manipulative and know the difference between right and wrong but dismiss it as applying to them. They are incapable of normal emotions such as love, generally react without considering the consequences of their actions and show extreme egocentric and narcissistic behavior...snip http://crime.about.com/od/serial/a/psychopaths.htm Gerry .. G Mann wrote: All good points, however, the cut line between manslaughter and murder can be a very fine one. I expect prosecution will try for murder 1 with manslaughter as the fallback position. The fine points of what happened will have to be displayed to the jury, and the judge, at trial. There appears to be good cause to charge murder1 because the burden of Mens Rea can be a very short time span... such as the time the deceased was exiting the scene, until the shooter made the decision to shoot him in the back multiple times... If there were only one shot, perhaps that could be argued as heat of the moment action... but logic says multiple shots into the retreating party demonstrates good cause for Mens Rae [intent followed by the act]. I retreat to my status as Citizen and pass this to the courts at this time.. my TV is resting in 280 feet of water at the bottom of the lake. If anything worth watching comes on, I will retrieve it. On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: I have also seen commentary regarding the murder charge -- murder apparently requires aforethought, which was probably not present here, so that manslaughter might be the more appropriate charge. i don't know what the prosecutor is going to charge him with. I thought that under the laws of most (maybe all) states, Murder in the First Degree requires malice aforethought, but Murder 2 can happen in the heat of the moment. Manslaughter is when you're criminally responsible but didn't intend to kill. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5863 / Virus Database: 4328/9505 - Release Date: 04/10/15 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Live guns banned at NRA Convention
I thought there was a gun show exemption from background checks. My mistake. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Thursday, 09 April 2015, 02:01PM -0400 from G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com: Andrew, Yet again, I feel I must speak in response to your latest posting. First: The article is in error because of it's hoplopobic reporting focus. Apparently, you are drawn to that, which is your right, just as it is mine to point it out. Second: It seems now likely both yourself and the writer of the posted article are not aware of the standard practice at ALL gun shows that requires the checking of ALL weapons and then securing them with a safety tie wrap through the firing mechanism UPON ENTRY to the gun show. NRA is simply a HUGE GUN SHOW... This is simply standard safety practice used at ALL gun shows to ensure against unintended discharge of any weapon. Third: This practice is a STANDARD SAFETY PRACTICE when entering and exiting any shooting range I have ever attended. ALL weapons are cleared of bullets in the barrel, and ALL magazines or cylinders are emptied BEFORE leaving the line of fire, while the barrel is pointed DOWN RANGE.. Simple and primary gun safety practiced by RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERS as a universal practice. Fourth: The writer attempts to make this standard safety practice a platform for hoplophobic social engineering under the guise of gun control.. This is an insult to anyone who understands and practices standard gun safety. Thus, wrong. Fifth: I invite you to satisfy your fascination with all things gun by making contact with a certified firearms instructor and taking an introductory course where such basics are covered as gun handling, gun safety, and very basic shooting skills introduction. I sincerely believe you would come to understand more about the real facts of ownership and responsibility that comes with ownership of a firearm. I am a certified firearms instructor myself and over the years have often come in contact with people who only saw a gun on TV or the movies, being used most improperly and often illegally. These perceptions have become ingrained in the minds of many, unfortunately. I urge you to expose yourself to the facts on gun safety and use. There is a group called USCCA which, if you contact them, will steer you to one of their certified instructors, in your local area, which you may find helpful and educational. You are a smart man.. the decision is yours, I only suggest. Respectfully, Grant... On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 5:10 AM, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote: http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/04/firearmconcierge/ nra-criticized-for-banning-working-guns/ http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/04/foghorn/can-you- carry-a-handgun-at-the-2015-nra-annual-meeting-in-nashville/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This worth anywhere near the listed price?
Run away from this pos. The owner is obviously lying. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Monday, 08 September 2014, 08:02PM -0400 from dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: Depends upon condition. If the rust is merely surface which the owner claims but I doubt then it's probably worth the asking price. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 8, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 1973 Mercedes Benz 280se 4.5 http://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/4658341271.html via cPro Craigslist App iOS: http://bit.ly/CL_iOS Android: http://bit.ly/CL_android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] FYI 85 123.133 for sale; usable for parts
What color interior? -- Sent from myMail app for Android Monday, 08 September 2014, 09:30AM -0400 from John Reames via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: Mainly drive-train stuff is usable; radiator and oil cooler are no good; body has rust-through in several places, so some body stuff might be usable. It's in Towson, MD (21204); I thought I would give everyone here a shot at it before CL or the wrecker. It was running well until it abruptly stopped, mangling the front end. -j -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
Sounds insanely cheap. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Friday, 12 September 2014, 04:48AM -0400 from John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net: How about a cheap new vehicle. Lease a smart ED with the battery assurance plus (BAP). Note that MBUSA has captured and retained the $7500 federal incentive, but it's passed on to you anyway. The finance charges on the lease work out to about 1%. Anyhow, the official deal is $999 down and $139/mo for 36 months, with 30k miles over the life of the lease. In Maryland, with taxes, tags, destination fee, etc, it's $3250 down (but it qualifies for a $2200 rebate from MD MVA) and $145/mo. -j. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Sep 11, 2014, at 10:59, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Other than a Prius, what is the cheapest used electric car I can get for my 15 mile RT commute? On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah right, I've got a bridge to sell you. Nobody I know with a Prius that drives an extensive highway commute gets 45mpg, 35-40 is the norm. -Curt From: archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net ; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius Prius get 40 to 45 mpg minimum on the highway. Plug-in Prius gets 95 mpg combined city and highway. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymodel/2012_Toyota_Prius.shtml Gerry On Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:46:20 -0500 Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: A Prius for me would be a problem, I do way too much open road driving, where they get 22mpg. Takes a lot of gasoline to haul that huge battery down the highway for half an hour with no regenerative braking. They do great in town, but not so good long distance. My uncle likes his, bought it when they first came out, but he hasn't driven outside suburban conditions for decades. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4015/8194 - Release Date: 09/11/14 -- arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71
Balogna -- Sent from myMail app for Android Wednesday, 17 September 2014, 01:16AM -0400 from Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: Original Message From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:21 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Reply To: Greg Fiorentino Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71 Actually, the discussion was mainly about nomenclature of an AR-15, and whether it is properly called a carbine, a rifle, or an assault rifle. Actually, firearms are much closer to Mercedes content than are apple trees; since they are both the pinnacle of mechanical technology of their time. I'm not opposed to discussing hardware, be it small arms, watches, washing machines, iPhone, or Mercedes. Just don't mix in emotion, and or politics. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Someone in IL needs this 116
They were never badged as 450SE L 6,9. Just 6.9 on lower right corner of trunk lid, sometimes with 450 SE L as well on the left corner -- Sent from myMail app for Android Saturday, 04 October 2014, 04:56PM -0400 from Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: Exactly. The car is a 450SEL (long wheel base W116) with a 6.9L instead of a 4.5L V8. This is standard MB badging -- if the W116 had originally had the 6.9 as designed, it would be badged as a 690SEL. Fat chance on that, there was a very substantial difference in price point, that 6.9L is VERY expensive. Obviously there are other diffrerences, but MB names the car line by the original engine size (4.5L = 450, etc) as a rule, then later modifications will get a badge on the right side. Hence a 300D 2.5 Turbodiesel for the 5 cylinder 2.5L turbocharged engine in the W124 chassis, which originally had the 3.0L OM603 instead of the 2.5L OM602. Just how MB names cars. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] new fix on new/old TD
I bought a 78 SL C for cheap that had several broken linkage bushings. Very poky- top speed was 45 mph IIRC. .. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Monday, 06 October 2014, 07:34AM -0400 from MG via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: Having that linkage break while driving would not be my favorite thing in the world. That sounds like a very nice emergency fix. I hope to remember it if I ever need it. Manfred Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2014 12:17:40 -0500 From: M. Mitchell Marmel marme...@gmail.com Had fun for about an hour this morning. I fixed the accelerator linkage on the firewall of the red TD. Had that happen on a 450SEL-on the side of the interstate! No good atall. Wound up sticking in a small socket in lieu of the bushing, which held me until I got home and could order a replacement... -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 123 fuel sender and hubcap
I did too, in the Auto Benz body shop in Alexandria, VA -- Sent from myMail app for Android Sunday, 12 October 2014, 01:31PM -0400 from Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: I saw a masking tool once that covered the star. Looked like a big branding iron. On Oct 12, 2014 1:10 PM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: BTW, about 14 years ago, I did a beautiful job of painting 123 wheel covers of other colors to the ivory I needed. 'Masked the center star and elsewhere as necessary with masking tape and sprayed 'em with paint from towerpaint.com. 'The masking took some care, of course, but overall, it was a fairly easy job. The results looked so good, I even gave myself an ATTABOY. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 11:44 AM Subject: [MBZ] 123 fuel sender and hubcap Last call. Does anyone have a 123 fuel sender or a midnight blue hubcap for a 123? I've had no positive responses so far. If you have one or the other, let me know. It looks like I will have to find a junkyard on car-part.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD
I like your explanation better than any of the others because it's a cheap fix. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Monday, 10 November 2014, 11:48AM -0500 from Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca: Is there a check valve in the main hose leading to the brake booster? I had a vehicle way back that would periodically lose the power brake function and scare me half to death. I changed the hose between the booster and the intake (it was a gas engine) and that solved the problem. There was a check valve in the hose that would sometimes stick. RB On 09/11/2014 9:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Some of you will recall my write up of the intermittent loss of power braking on my 1983 300TD, coupled with the loss of engine shut off (won't turn off with key). I fiddled with a rubber connector to the brake booster line, and happily the problem disappeared for nearly a week. The issue then resurfaced, but now the following symptoms occur all the time: 1) Power brakes completely gone - must apply extremely forceful pressure on the brake pedal (or petal, if you prefer). 2) Cannot shut off the engine with key - must be done manually 3) Vacuum door locks completely inoperative, even with the engine running. Otherwise, everything else on the car works fine. Whoever is the first to successfully diagnose this problem, based solely on the symptoms enunciated above, wins a coveted ATTABOY. Good luck. Andrew 1983 300TD No brakes, locks or engine shutoff 1985 300TD CA version ___ http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD
I kinda doubt it. The tube looks grate. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Monday, 10 November 2014, 10:17AM -0500 from Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: It's the big plastic tube that gose to the break booster. If it is braken you will loose you're break peddle. Their a known week link. --R On 11/9/14 11:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: What's that? On Nov 9, 2014 11:08 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The fact that messing with the nut made it better for a while leads me to guess the main synthetic tube is broken. No diaphragm on that car. I vote for busted main vacuum line or a ruptured booster. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD
My symptoms are silent -- Sent from myMail app for Android Monday, 10 November 2014, 04:31PM -0500 from Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: Original Message From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 1:41 PM To: Scott Ritchey; Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Andrew Strasfogel Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Brakes that WON'T - 1983 300TD My pessimistic half is betting on the vacuum pump, the most expensive scenaro ($350 + labor). The junkyard / breakers / pick and pull is your friend. I had one break mechanically. It sounded like a rod was going to let loose. $60 later with a trip to the bone yard, and it was all better. Potomac German Auto is close by, yes? Call and maybe they have one and will ship...? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] FW: Craig's New Ride
New job too. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Friday, 14 November 2014, 02:55PM -0500 from Fred Moir via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. From: fredh.s...@hotmail.com To: d...@penoff.com Subject: RE: [MBZ] Craig's New Ride Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 19:54:08 + On a business lunch my boss derided my choice of Quiche Lorraine as Real men don't eat quicheMy reply was Real men eat whatever they want!Game over, new balls please. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2014 14:36:22 -0500 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Craig's New Ride From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Careful. I ate quiche yesterday and it was yummy! Okie Benz had a quotes page at one time. Haven't looked to see if it's still there. Dan who believes he is a real man despite eating quiche Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1983 300TD W123 Balky Starter
Send me a link so I can at least price it. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Tuesday, 18 November 2014, 06:39PM -0500 from Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: The problem with the diesel starters is that usually the coil windings have acquired too much resistance, and if you don't replace the armature, you will still have a weak, high current draw starter. New bushing and turning the commutator will do very little to fix it. So far as I know, only Bosch rewinds the armatures. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
We're all in this closet together. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Friday, 12 December 2014, 07:27PM -0500 from Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com: Andrew wrote: I followed on with a zero content message because I am a closet conformist Not much closet here. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: OT - A COUNTRY BOY REMEMBERS - R. J. WORKS FARM
Not to mention literalists. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Wednesday, 24 December 2014, 05:23PM -0500 from Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com: Andrew wrote: It appears that this list is populated with late bloomers. No bloomers here. I wear briefs. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Quiet day on the list
Please keep us posted. I want to have a solar tube installed to shed some light on a gloomy kitchen, even though it has a window. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Tuesday, 20 January 2015, 00:47PM -0500 from Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: Did my civic duty today and had jury duty. Slow week so we got dismissed early I'm going to spend some time in the attic scoping out the location for a tubular skylight I want to put in our laundry room. it's yucky outside or I would wash the R129. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
