Re: [MBZ] Photography is not my strong suit - 2001 CLK320 - $500 (and others)

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Good to know, thanks! I suspect they’re utilizing Github repositories, but I 
don’t know much more than that - I’ll check. We’re sorely in need of a cloud 
architect, as the one we had left for lots and lots more $$$. They’re actively 
recruiting for one, but I wonder how successful we’ll be since we’re government 
and can’t possibly afford to pay the salaries that the private sector is 
offering.

-D

> On Jun 19, 2021, at 2:57 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Be sure they aren't committing cloud authentication keys to public
> Github repositories. This happened at work and in short order one
> researcher's AWS account was charged tens of thousands of dollars.
> 
> Amazon eventually refunded most of it but it was still a hassle for all
> involved.
> 
> Github also has processes now that watch for this kind of thing, but I'm
> not sure it's foolproof (never underestimate the creativity of a fool).
> 
> Allan
> 
> "dan penoff.com via Mercedes"  writes:
> 
>> For the benefit of the masses:
>> 
>> Microsoft, like other “cloud” providers, allows you to create or “spin up” 
>> virtual computers, typically servers, in the cloud with nothing more than a 
>> few mouse clicks. It’s easy to do and can be done in a matter of minutes. 
>> This ease in accessibility tends to have customers spinning up servers as 
>> they please, which is a Good Thing for Microsoft, or Amazon, or whomever the 
>> cloud provider is. Why? Because they charge you for it - monthly.
>> 
>> Think about this - with a few clicks of a mouse I can have a full blown 
>> production server provisioned however I like - your choice of operating 
>> system, RAM, number of processors, drive storage, network interfaces, etc., 
>> etc.
>> 
>> These are the virtual equivalent of 100s of thousands of dollars of physical 
>> hardware. The providers charge accordingly.
>> 
>> So it’s easy to see how someone can get out of control with this stuff and 
>> really go to town. My data scientist geeks are cranking up some very 
>> powerful virtual machines because they’re crunching data, and lots of it. 
>> Not only that, they’re installing Microsoft software like SQL (database) 
>> whose licenses are in the 10s of thousands of dollars a year, if not more.
>> 
>> This just started, so I’m waiting for the accounting folks to go ballistic 
>> when our next monthly Microsoft invoice comes in for payment.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> On Jun 19, 2021, at 10:43 AM, Curt Raymond 
>> mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> The first time I hit $2,000 somebody in accounting freaked out. That was the 
>> first quarter and that was when I realized I needed more compute power for 
>> my VMs. I'd been using 8GB of RAM but the machines were very unhappy. I find 
>> it interesting that in my VMWare systems 8GB is adequate, something about 
>> Azure appears to be less efficient running the same software.
>> 
>> I should note that $2,000/mo is just for my classes, the guy who teaches the 
>> editing software uses way more, 16 processor cores and 128GB/RAM will do 
>> that.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Saturday, June 19, 2021, 7:52:47 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> We currently run an Azure environment. I’ve got a bunch of data scientists 
>> running their own environment in our tenant and they’re spinning stuff up 
>> daily. I’ve pointed out that every time they spin up a new instance of 
>> something the meter is running, but they don’t seem to care. Not sure who’s 
>> handling the accounting side of their stuff, but this just started a month 
>> or two ago, so I’m guessing they haven’t gotten the first invoice from 
>> Microsoft yet.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> On Jun 18, 2021, at 10:43 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Cap-ex vs Op-ex. When I first got out of college everything was supposed to 
>> be cap-ex. Buy hardware so we didn't have to spend people time on stuff. Now 
>> you're supposed to turn everything into op-ex. I've got a whole bunch of VM 
>> servers that would be great to train on but rather than getting me a $200/mo 
>> dedicated internet line we spend $2,000/mo in Microsoft Azure...
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Friday, June 18, 2021, 8:24:46 PM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> But eventually someone has to buy the cars, which is less likely if they are 
>> overpriced.
>> 
>> I'm sure it's some variant of the sh

Re: [MBZ] Watch for Southern Indiana/Midwest flood cars appearing on CL/FB

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Asked my brother in Indy (Greenwood) how it was there. He said they got a 
boatload of rain by no flooding. Must be all those hills you’ve got down there.

-D

> On Jun 19, 2021, at 3:10 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> From all the rain last night.
> 
> https://bloomingtonian.com/2021/06/19/gallery-bloomington-floods/
> 
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Re: [MBZ] GL amp draw

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Harbor Fright has such a device, I have one. It has a plug that mimics a blade 
fuse with an ammeter attached to it. About $14, if I recall.

-D

> On Jun 19, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dig online first, figure out what the common reasons are, and try those.
> You may get lucky.  Maybe some computer somewhere thinks it needs to keep
> working day and night.  Radio amp staying on, or something easy like that.
> 
> Would be nice if someone made a meter adapter for those blade fuses, so you
> could pull a fuse, stick the adapter in the slot, and immediately see if
> that circuit is the culprit.  What would be really madenning would be a
> fault such that pulling the fuse will cure the fault, so when you try to
> measure the draw on that fuse location, you get a normal (probably zero)
> reading.
> 
> Did you see if there are any codes from any of the various systems?
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 11:21 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Well crap OK. Time to start digging I guess
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 19, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That's almost half an amp!  Way too high...
>>> 
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Jun 19, 2021 11:11:14 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
>>> 
 On the ex Hoovie GL if the car sits for 3-4 days or so without being
>> started battery is too low to start. I am checking amp draw right now and
>> pic is what I am getting after everything shuts down. Is this normal or too
>> high for one of these?  Seems like it should be something like .05 but not
>> sure I recall. With this car it’s got something like 3-4 fuse boxes so it
>> seems like it could be hard to narrow down
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC work - replacing ductwork

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Check with your local utility, as they likely offer a rebate for the ducts or 
at least the duct sealing.

-D

> On Jun 19, 2021, at 12:11 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A couple summers ago I replaced all the ductwork under the house, now it's
> time for the attic ductwork.  Should have done this during the winter when
> it was cool.
> 
> I think I'm going to get some prices to pay someone to do this.  It's only
> a few hundred dollars worth of material, well maybe 5-600, but some skilled
> labor to build them and properly seal them and get it all installed,
> hopefully without putting a foot through the sheetrock ceiling.
> -
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[MBZ] /rant/ Facebook Sellers

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

FB sellers have to be of a class of human that is missing some sort of 
understanding or logic. Or maybe intelligence. To-wit, I am sharing some of my 
FB experiences for consideration and support of my theory:

“1 owner car” - I see a reference to an accident on the CF - “Before I owned 
it” - “But I thought it was a one owner car?” - “I’m a dealer in NY - because 
of that I don’t have to collect sales tax, so I can write up the invoice for 
something less so you don’t have to pay as much” - so not only are they lying, 
they want me to be complicit in tax fraud?

Clearly a sale by a old couple - I message them. Two days go by with no 
activity. I finally get a response -“Give us your email address and we’ll send 
a copy of the CF.”  I do so. Two days later they message again with their phone 
number. I call it and get voice mail. Ask for the CF, give my email address 
again. Crickets. I text with my email address, it goes through as they’ve got 
an iPhone and I can see the read confirmation.  Two days later - a text asking 
for my email address. I text it - again. A day later I get six or so discrete 
pictures of the CF pages texted to me.

Several sellers with ads less than a day old. I message both. A day later and 
the messages haven’t been read and of course, no response.

WTF is this? Are people just stupid?

Grrr.

/rant/

-D
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Re: [MBZ] GL amp draw

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

W210s go to sleep after 30 minutes or so.

-D

> On Jun 19, 2021, at 12:18 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I remember seeing somewhere (Hoovies Garage? Car Wizard?) that some cars have 
> computer systems that "wake up" if it senses a door opening or something. 
> This one is going to be fun to find.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Photography is not my strong suit - 2001 CLK320 - $500 (and others)

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

For the benefit of the masses:

Microsoft, like other “cloud” providers, allows you to create or “spin up” 
virtual computers, typically servers, in the cloud with nothing more than a few 
mouse clicks. It’s easy to do and can be done in a matter of minutes. This ease 
in accessibility tends to have customers spinning up servers as they please, 
which is a Good Thing for Microsoft, or Amazon, or whomever the cloud provider 
is. Why? Because they charge you for it - monthly.

Think about this - with a few clicks of a mouse I can have a full blown 
production server provisioned however I like - your choice of operating system, 
RAM, number of processors, drive storage, network interfaces, etc., etc.

These are the virtual equivalent of 100s of thousands of dollars of physical 
hardware. The providers charge accordingly.

So it’s easy to see how someone can get out of control with this stuff and 
really go to town. My data scientist geeks are cranking up some very powerful 
virtual machines because they’re crunching data, and lots of it. Not only that, 
they’re installing Microsoft software like SQL (database) whose licenses are in 
the 10s of thousands of dollars a year, if not more.

This just started, so I’m waiting for the accounting folks to go ballistic when 
our next monthly Microsoft invoice comes in for payment.

-D

On Jun 19, 2021, at 10:43 AM, Curt Raymond 
mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

The first time I hit $2,000 somebody in accounting freaked out. That was the 
first quarter and that was when I realized I needed more compute power for my 
VMs. I'd been using 8GB of RAM but the machines were very unhappy. I find it 
interesting that in my VMWare systems 8GB is adequate, something about Azure 
appears to be less efficient running the same software.

I should note that $2,000/mo is just for my classes, the guy who teaches the 
editing software uses way more, 16 processor cores and 128GB/RAM will do that.

-Curt

On Saturday, June 19, 2021, 7:52:47 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


We currently run an Azure environment. I’ve got a bunch of data scientists 
running their own environment in our tenant and they’re spinning stuff up 
daily. I’ve pointed out that every time they spin up a new instance of 
something the meter is running, but they don’t seem to care. Not sure who’s 
handling the accounting side of their stuff, but this just started a month or 
two ago, so I’m guessing they haven’t gotten the first invoice from Microsoft 
yet.

-D

On Jun 18, 2021, at 10:43 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Cap-ex vs Op-ex. When I first got out of college everything was supposed to be 
cap-ex. Buy hardware so we didn't have to spend people time on stuff. Now 
you're supposed to turn everything into op-ex. I've got a whole bunch of VM 
servers that would be great to train on but rather than getting me a $200/mo 
dedicated internet line we spend $2,000/mo in Microsoft Azure...
-Curt

 On Friday, June 18, 2021, 8:24:46 PM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

But eventually someone has to buy the cars, which is less likely if they are 
overpriced.

I'm sure it's some variant of the shit where they will pay more in operating
costs, often many times over, rather than do a better job up front, because
it would involve a slightly higher capital cost.  "Hey, not MY budget."  Even
if one corporate entity is who is paying ALL costs in the end.

So, how you rig the game will result in how successful it is overall, over time.
Ultimately I'm sure it's why big companies die, and small ones are formed.
They get ossified and inefficient, and the new small sharks swoop in and
eat the lunch, and eventually the carcass, of the big fish.  Ad infinitum.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] GL amp draw

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Time to start pulling fuses. A lot of fuses.

-D

> On Jun 19, 2021, at 11:21 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well crap OK. Time to start digging I guess 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 19, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That's almost half an amp!  Way too high...
>> 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> 
>> Jun 19, 2021 11:11:14 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :
>> 
>>> On the ex Hoovie GL if the car sits for 3-4 days or so without being 
>>> started battery is too low to start. I am checking amp draw right now and 
>>> pic is what I am getting after everything shuts down. Is this normal or too 
>>> high for one of these?  Seems like it should be something like .05 but not 
>>> sure I recall. With this car it’s got something like 3-4 fuse boxes so it 
>>> seems like it could be hard to narrow down
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC work - replacing ductwork

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Yup.

I just did an energy audit on another house and the rebates from the utilities 
will total $1000 if I have the work done. Well worth looking into.

-D

> On Jun 19, 2021, at 12:37 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well how about that, $300 Rebate for either sealing or complete
> replacement!  That takes some of the sting out of the deal...
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 12:16 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Check with your local utility, as they likely offer a rebate for the ducts
>> or at least the duct sealing.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 19, 2021, at 12:11 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> A couple summers ago I replaced all the ductwork under the house, now
>> it's
>>> time for the attic ductwork.  Should have done this during the winter
>> when
>>> it was cool.
>>> 
>>> I think I'm going to get some prices to pay someone to do this.  It's
>> only
>>> a few hundred dollars worth of material, well maybe 5-600, but some
>> skilled
>>> labor to build them and properly seal them and get it all installed,
>>> hopefully without putting a foot through the sheetrock ceiling.
>>> -
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Re: [MBZ] OT HVAC work - replacing ductwork

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I’ve had two of them and been very pleased with both.

-D

> On Jun 19, 2021, at 3:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Rebates for efficiency are great. Some of you might remember my talking about 
> a hybrid water heater awhile ago. I talked to a high school buddy who is a 
> plumber. In Maine plumber's get the rebate instantly so no paperwork to 
> figure out, he just needed my address. We ended up getting a hybrid 50 gallon 
> hot water heater for about the price of a conventional 40 gallon unit plus a 
> 10 year warranty instead of 6.In the end we got an AO Smith because thats 
> what Lowes in Presque Isle sells. So if something goes wrong and we need it 
> replaced we can source one locally. My favorite part of the deal was when my 
> plumber buddy said "Oh yeah, that's the one I have."
> 
> -Curt
> 
>On Saturday, June 19, 2021, 12:38:08 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Well how about that, $300 Rebate for either sealing or complete
> replacement!  That takes some of the sting out of the deal...
> -----
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 12:16 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Check with your local utility, as they likely offer a rebate for the ducts
>> or at least the duct sealing.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 19, 2021, at 12:11 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> A couple summers ago I replaced all the ductwork under the house, now
>> it's
>>> time for the attic ductwork.  Should have done this during the winter
>> when
>>> it was cool.
>>> 
>>> I think I'm going to get some prices to pay someone to do this.  It's
>> only
>>> a few hundred dollars worth of material, well maybe 5-600, but some
>> skilled
>>> labor to build them and properly seal them and get it all installed,
>>> hopefully without putting a foot through the sheetrock ceiling.
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Today's activity in the okie shop

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Or you just put a drip leg in with a cap that you can remove occasionally to 
drain any moisture. Easier and cheaper.

-D

> On Jun 20, 2021, at 10:46 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> Do these have a way to drain each station? Typically when you use pipe at 
> each vertical drop you have your valve for your air connection then below 
> that you have a drain valve to drain any water that falls in there. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 19, 2021, at 11:52 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Speaking of running air lines, what about using PEX for air lines???
>> 
>> 
>> Pex *may* work, but what you want is Pex-Al-Pex which is pex lined with 
>> aluminum somehow.
>> 
>> This kit looks like the best compromise between price and flow. It has a 
>> 1/2" ID, so it should flow well.
>> 
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rapid-Air-Maxline-100-M3800-1-2-Compressed-Air-Line-Piping-Tubing-Shop-System-/194202157512
>> 
>> The Rapidair 1/2 system is cheaper (same company), but has an OD of 1/2" and 
>> an ID of like 3/8". It would probably be fine for airing up tires and light 
>> air tools, but to get the most umph out of an impact bigger is better.
>> 
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/MaxLine-90500-100-Foot-1-2-O-D-Semi-Flexible-Compressed-Air-Tubing-Master-Kit-/352915008198
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] "balance shaft" problem M272/M273 engines

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Run it in VirtualBox. It’s free, easy to use, and very stable.

-D

> On Jun 22, 2021, at 8:32 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I found the link on a sticky post on 164s on benzworld. 
> 
> You can buy a set of DVDs on eBay From various sellers for $15 that has the 
> WIS/EPC. It’s a PITA to get installed and is kinda funky to run As it 
> requires a VM in Windows (included in the install) but all the details are in 
> there. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 22, 2021, at 4:32 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Probably. How did you find the one that you found? Is the WIS included in 
>> the cheep cheep chinee star system?
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Sent: June 22, 2021 3:26 PM
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Cc: buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] "balance shaft" problem M272/M273 engines
>> 
>> I did that too, some useful stuff, looks like mostly for his later model 
>> cars. It looks like he is using his website as a library but all the docs 
>> are not linked off the main page. I wonder if most of it came from the WIS.
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 22, 2021, at 1:37 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I did a search for pdf files on the website. I sure wish they were 
>>> indexed. There's a lot.
>>> 
>>> Pdf site:benzbits.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Sent: June 22, 2021 9:48 AM
>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Cc: buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com
>>> Subject: [MBZ] "balance shaft" problem M272/M273 engines
>>> 
>>> Details on the cam/balance shaft issue with 350 engines,  If you're out
>>> of warranty you're...
>>> 
>>> Remove / install balance shaft, replace if necessary (engine 272 removed)
>>> 
>>> Equipped with M272 or M273 Engine Check Engine Light On / Fault Codes
>>> Current and/or Stored in ME-SFI Control Module / Oil Leaking at Camshaft
>>> Adjustment Solenoid
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This is due to the positioning of the timing chain driven camshafts
>>> relative to the crankshaft and can be caused by a worn sprocket on the
>>> balance shaft on engine M272 or by a worn guide (idler) gear for the
>>> timing chain on engine M273.
>>> 
>>> https://benzbits.com/BalanceShaftTSB.pdf
>>> 
>>> --
>>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] "balance shaft" problem M272/M273 engines

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Download the correct client for your OS and run the installer. The rest is 
pretty intuitive, really. They have some good documentation on the web site, 
too.

https://www.virtualbox.org

-D

> On Jun 22, 2021, at 8:53 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’ll need some details at some point. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 22, 2021, at 8:47 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  Yup, I've been using VirtualBox for maybe 7 or 8 years now, works as good 
>> as VMware for free.
>> I've got a Win7 and Win3.11 VMs on my Mac.
>> -Curt
>> 
>>   On Tuesday, June 22, 2021, 8:43:00 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:  
>> 
>> Run it in VirtualBox. It’s free, easy to use, and very stable.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 22, 2021, at 8:32 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I found the link on a sticky post on 164s on benzworld. 
>>> 
>>> You can buy a set of DVDs on eBay From various sellers for $15 that has the 
>>> WIS/EPC. It’s a PITA to get installed and is kinda funky to run As it 
>>> requires a VM in Windows (included in the install) but all the details are 
>>> in there. 
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 22, 2021, at 4:32 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Probably. How did you find the one that you found? Is the WIS included in 
>>>> the cheep cheep chinee star system?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Rick
>>>> 
>>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>>> Sent: June 22, 2021 3:26 PM
>>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>>> Cc: buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] "balance shaft" problem M272/M273 engines
>>>> 
>>>> I did that too, some useful stuff, looks like mostly for his later model 
>>>> cars. It looks like he is using his website as a library but all the docs 
>>>> are not linked off the main page. I wonder if most of it came from the WIS.
>>>> 
>>>> --FT
>>>> Sent from iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 22, 2021, at 1:37 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I did a search for pdf files on the website. I sure wish they were 
>>>>> indexed. There's a lot.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Pdf site:benzbits.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rick
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>>>> Sent: June 22, 2021 9:48 AM
>>>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>>>> Cc: buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com
>>>>> Subject: [MBZ] "balance shaft" problem M272/M273 engines
>>>>> 
>>>>> Details on the cam/balance shaft issue with 350 engines,  If you're out
>>>>> of warranty you're...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Remove / install balance shaft, replace if necessary (engine 272 removed)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Equipped with M272 or M273 Engine Check Engine Light On / Fault Codes
>>>>> Current and/or Stored in ME-SFI Control Module / Oil Leaking at Camshaft
>>>>> Adjustment Solenoid
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is due to the positioning of the timing chain driven camshafts
>>>>> relative to the crankshaft and can be caused by a worn sprocket on the
>>>>> balance shaft on engine M272 or by a worn guide (idler) gear for the
>>>>> timing chain on engine M273.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://benzbits.com/BalanceShaftTSB.pdf
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] "balance shaft" problem M272/M273 engines

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

You may have to copy the files over from the DVDs onto your computer first, 
then import the VM into VirtualBox.

-D

> On Jun 22, 2021, at 10:55 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ok I get that part but these DVDs I have install a VM for the stuff to run. 
> How can I install the stuff without this VM, and put it in VB?
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 22, 2021, at 8:57 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Download the correct client for your OS and run the installer. The rest is 
>> pretty intuitive, really. They have some good documentation on the web site, 
>> too.
>> 
>> https://www.virtualbox.org
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 22, 2021, at 8:53 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ll need some details at some point. 
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 22, 2021, at 8:47 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  Yup, I've been using VirtualBox for maybe 7 or 8 years now, works as 
>>>> good as VMware for free.
>>>> I've got a Win7 and Win3.11 VMs on my Mac.
>>>> -Curt
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tuesday, June 22, 2021, 8:43:00 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:  
>>>> 
>>>> Run it in VirtualBox. It’s free, easy to use, and very stable.
>>>> 
>>>> -D
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 22, 2021, at 8:32 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I found the link on a sticky post on 164s on benzworld. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can buy a set of DVDs on eBay From various sellers for $15 that has 
>>>>> the WIS/EPC. It’s a PITA to get installed and is kinda funky to run As it 
>>>>> requires a VM in Windows (included in the install) but all the details 
>>>>> are in there. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --FT
>>>>> Sent from iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jun 22, 2021, at 4:32 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Probably. How did you find the one that you found? Is the WIS included 
>>>>>> in the cheep cheep chinee star system?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Rick
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>>>>> Sent: June 22, 2021 3:26 PM
>>>>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>>>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>>>>> Cc: buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] "balance shaft" problem M272/M273 engines
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I did that too, some useful stuff, looks like mostly for his later model 
>>>>>> cars. It looks like he is using his website as a library but all the 
>>>>>> docs are not linked off the main page. I wonder if most of it came from 
>>>>>> the WIS.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --FT
>>>>>> Sent from iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jun 22, 2021, at 1:37 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I did a search for pdf files on the website. I sure wish they were 
>>>>>>> indexed. There's a lot.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Pdf site:benzbits.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Rick
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>>>>>> Sent: June 22, 2021 9:48 AM
>>>>>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>>>>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>>>>>> Cc: buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> Subject: [MBZ] "balance shaft" problem M272/M273 engines
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Details on the cam/balance shaft issue with 350 engines,  If you're out
>>>>>>> of warranty you're...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Remove / install balance shaft, replace if necessary (engine 272 
>>>>>>> removed)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Equipped with M272 or M273 Engine Check Engine Light On / Fault Codes
>>>>>>> Current and/or Stored in ME-SFI Control Modu

Re: [MBZ] Flip For Dan

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Advertised in Orlando, located in Hollywood - that’s down in south Florida.

-D

> On Jun 23, 2021, at 5:06 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/hollywood-classic-1982-mercedes-benz/7341062671.html
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Huge dog or tiny car?

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That was it. Thanks, Curt!

I can’t imagine my 6’1” frame would comfortably fit in that thing. I would 
probably look like some big kid in a pedal car. Not to mention the wheelbase 
being so short that your spine would be seriously impacted on bumps. I drove a 
Jeep Liberty a few weeks ago and the short wheelbase on that thing was enough 
to make me feel like I needed a chiropractor after driving it.

-D

On Jun 21, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Curt Raymond 
mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

It's actually a class of cars, "Kei" cars are tiny Japanese cars that I think 
get different, less expensive, licensing. IIRC they're like 600cc or less.

The x90 is a very small SUV which, I guess, actually has some offroad cred.

-Curt

On Monday, June 21, 2021, 12:21:09 PM EDT, dan penoff.com 
via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


There is a type of car that was sold in Japan (I forget the name, it was 
“K”-something) that was tiny. Mazda made them as did some other manufacturers. 
They’re actually pretty cool, and occasionally they make it over here since 
they’re slipping below the 25 year import threshold.

-D

> On Jun 21, 2021, at 12:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> This is either cute or somewhat disturbing depending on the answer to that
> question.
> https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rxL6Lkej/1996-suzuki-x90
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Huge dog or tiny car?

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There is a type of car that was sold in Japan (I forget the name, it was 
“K”-something) that was tiny. Mazda made them as did some other manufacturers. 
They’re actually pretty cool, and occasionally they make it over here since 
they’re slipping below the 25 year import threshold.

-D

> On Jun 21, 2021, at 12:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> This is either cute or somewhat disturbing depending on the answer to that
> question.
> https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rxL6Lkej/1996-suzuki-x90
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Re: [MBZ] 2006 GL350 - 160k miles - $2,000

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M272 engine? The one that goes through balance shafts and timing gears?

-D

> On Jun 21, 2021, at 12:19 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Why is it a "boat anchor"?
> 
> 
> On 19/06/2021 1:56 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> 350 boat anchor  So sad
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 19, 2021, at 2:45 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> "I think has a vacuum leak and a oil leak. Im not a mechanic."
>>> 
>>> https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/chicago-2006-mercedes-gl350/7339098562.html
>>> 
>>> Allan
>>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Huge dog or tiny car?

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Buddy/neighbor across the street got a 2005 4WD Jeep Liberty with 130k on the 
clock for free. Something to do with someone at his church he helped out when 
they were in a tough spot a few years ago, they don’t drive it anymore, 
whatever.

He has a teenage daughter that will be driving age at the end of the year, and 
being a single Dad this was the perfect opportunity to get a car for her. It 
needed a COP on #6 and a couple of calipers rebuilt. He did the calipers with 
my guidance and a couple of rebuild kits and I replaced the COP.

I drove it a little bit last week and did not care for it at all, as described. 
I guess if you offroaded much it wouldn’t matter, but as a DD it would be a 
literal PITA.

It seems to be a pretty rugged vehicle and is simple to work on, but I’m still 
not impressed.

-D


On Jun 21, 2021, at 3:58 PM, Curt Raymond 
mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

My parents had a total of 3 early 2000s Liberties. I wasn't terribly impressed 
with any of them. The first had a manual transmission which at least provided a 
little entertainment. The driving position in a Liberty is terrible.

My mother got a Cherokee, dad got a Renegade. I like both of those okay. I'm 
not a real Jeep fan though...

-Curt

On Monday, June 21, 2021, 12:33:40 PM EDT, dan penoff.com 
via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


That was it. Thanks, Curt!

I can’t imagine my 6’1” frame would comfortably fit in that thing. I would 
probably look like some big kid in a pedal car. Not to mention the wheelbase 
being so short that your spine would be seriously impacted on bumps. I drove a 
Jeep Liberty a few weeks ago and the short wheelbase on that thing was enough 
to make me feel like I needed a chiropractor after driving it.

-D

On Jun 21, 2021, at 12:24 PM, Curt Raymond 
mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com>>>
 wrote:

It's actually a class of cars, "Kei" cars are tiny Japanese cars that I think 
get different, less expensive, licensing. IIRC they're like 600cc or less.

The x90 is a very small SUV which, I guess, actually has some offroad cred.

-Curt

On Monday, June 21, 2021, 12:21:09 PM EDT, dan 
penoff.com> via 
Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>>
 wrote:


There is a type of car that was sold in Japan (I forget the name, it was 
“K”-something) that was tiny. Mazda made them as did some other manufacturers. 
They’re actually pretty cool, and occasionally they make it over here since 
they’re slipping below the 25 year import threshold.

-D

> On Jun 21, 2021, at 12:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>>
>  wrote:

>
> This is either cute or somewhat disturbing depending on the answer to that
> question.
> https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rxL6Lkej/1996-suzuki-x90
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Re: [MBZ] W124 rear brake hard lines

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

OE lines come straight (unbent).

-D

> On Jun 24, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Is it possible to get pre-bent lines?
> 
> Some of the "better" quality brake lines are not easy to bend into tight 
> turns.
> 
> 
> On 24/06/2021 10:36 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Is it true that subframe needs to be dropped?
>> It would probably be easier with the subframe out, but it may not be 
>> impossible. I've done a 123, but no 124 yet. With your metal working 
>> prowess, I suspect that you can learn to bend brake lines pretty quickly. If 
>> I can do it, anyone can with practice. I bent quite a few pretzels until I 
>> got good. They have the copper nickel brake line that is pretty resistant to 
>> corrosion. It's pricey, but you'll only have to do it once.
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] heavier 123 front springs

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Shocks typically remain the same, as suspension travel doesn’t change, just the 
spring rate.

I’m not sure if it’s the same for a W123, but for the earlier models there was 
a formula you had to employ that took all of the various options on the car and 
drive train to calculate which springs were the proper ones for the 
application. It was in the service manual.

-D

> On Jun 24, 2021, at 5:19 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes that is true. If I recall there were some taller stiffer springs for “off 
> road” which I took to be places where “roads” are not quite up to European 
> standards. I think there are also aftermarket suppliers that either have 
> different springs or will make them to spec. I don’t have any links but a 
> search might find them. You might need different shocks too?
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 24, 2021, at 4:51 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> You can probably identify and possibly get stiffer or taller springs from 
>> Mercedes. Give me the VIN and I’ll look in the EPC to see what optional 
>> springs were available for it.
>> 
>> Mercedes offered different springs for various models to accommodate road 
>> surfaces/conditions in different parts of the world. When I was replacing 
>> springs on my former 1965 220SEb there were no less than 4 different springs 
>> that could be used in both the back and front suspensions.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 24, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I decided to drive the 123 wagon with the motor swap. It is pretty great. I
>>> put the cat back on to pass CARB. It is a euro wagon, so if it were not
>>> motor swapped, there would be no way to license it here in CA, lacking as
>>> it does a federal emissions sticker. With a 2006 motor it can be done, as
>>> long as it conforms to stock tune and emissions specs for 2006. Which it
>>> now does.
>>> 
>>> Adding the cat back cost some performance for sure. But it also made the
>>> car far less stinky to drive. It now drives like any modern car, except
>>> more torque. The exhaust gas recirculation seems very loud also when it is
>>> on, which seems to be mostly when the car is cold for some reason. I think
>>> it shuts the VNT vanes down tight to raise the EGP and shunt the exhaust
>>> back through a cooler to the intake when the cat is cold.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, the front springs are a little light for the om648. The car is not
>>> super low, but the suspension doesn't have enough travel up front, and oil
>>> pan will hit a concrete parking stop if I drive up too close. I was
>>> thinking of trying some 126 front springs. Anyone know if they are any
>>> stiffer? Thanks.
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Re: [MBZ] heavier 123 front springs

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You can probably identify and possibly get stiffer or taller springs from 
Mercedes. Give me the VIN and I’ll look in the EPC to see what optional springs 
were available for it.

Mercedes offered different springs for various models to accommodate road 
surfaces/conditions in different parts of the world. When I was replacing 
springs on my former 1965 220SEb there were no less than 4 different springs 
that could be used in both the back and front suspensions.

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> On Jun 24, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I decided to drive the 123 wagon with the motor swap. It is pretty great. I
> put the cat back on to pass CARB. It is a euro wagon, so if it were not
> motor swapped, there would be no way to license it here in CA, lacking as
> it does a federal emissions sticker. With a 2006 motor it can be done, as
> long as it conforms to stock tune and emissions specs for 2006. Which it
> now does.
> 
> Adding the cat back cost some performance for sure. But it also made the
> car far less stinky to drive. It now drives like any modern car, except
> more torque. The exhaust gas recirculation seems very loud also when it is
> on, which seems to be mostly when the car is cold for some reason. I think
> it shuts the VNT vanes down tight to raise the EGP and shunt the exhaust
> back through a cooler to the intake when the cat is cold.
> 
> Anyway, the front springs are a little light for the om648. The car is not
> super low, but the suspension doesn't have enough travel up front, and oil
> pan will hit a concrete parking stop if I drive up too close. I was
> thinking of trying some 126 front springs. Anyone know if they are any
> stiffer? Thanks.
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Re: [MBZ] heavier 123 front springs

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They would. However, the mass of the engine and car itself are unchanged in a 
stock setup. The stiffer or taller springs in these cases were meant to offset 
the poor or rough road surfaces. Shocks have nothing to do with ride height - 
they dampen the action of the spring as you suggest. And it’s not so much that 
they would be “heavier duty” necessarily, the damping rate is changed with 
different valving. In some cases they might be larger in diameter to 
accommodate a larger volume of hydraulic fluid to deal with the larger/heavier 
load, but ultimately it’s the damping rate that matters.

We’ve all seen cars that had bad shocks if we realized it or not - they’re the 
ones that when they hit a bump or change in the road surface they “bounce” 
rather than the suspension absorbing the hit and the frequency of the amplitude 
of response is quite rapid. That is, they take a while to “settle down” after 
such an event.

-D

> On Jun 24, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Don’t the shocks kinda respond based on the mass that’s pushing them around?  
> So a heavier engine == “heavier duty” shocks?
> 
> I’m trying to remember my classes in dynamics...
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 24, 2021, at 5:23 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Shocks typically remain the same, as suspension travel doesn’t change, just 
>> the spring rate.
>> 
>> I’m not sure if it’s the same for a W123, but for the earlier models there 
>> was a formula you had to employ that took all of the various options on the 
>> car and drive train to calculate which springs were the proper ones for the 
>> application. It was in the service manual.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 24, 2021, at 5:19 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes that is true. If I recall there were some taller stiffer springs for 
>>> “off road” which I took to be places where “roads” are not quite up to 
>>> European standards. I think there are also aftermarket suppliers that 
>>> either have different springs or will make them to spec. I don’t have any 
>>> links but a search might find them. You might need different shocks too?
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 24, 2021, at 4:51 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> You can probably identify and possibly get stiffer or taller springs from 
>>>> Mercedes. Give me the VIN and I’ll look in the EPC to see what optional 
>>>> springs were available for it.
>>>> 
>>>> Mercedes offered different springs for various models to accommodate road 
>>>> surfaces/conditions in different parts of the world. When I was replacing 
>>>> springs on my former 1965 220SEb there were no less than 4 different 
>>>> springs that could be used in both the back and front suspensions.
>>>> 
>>>> -D
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 24, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I decided to drive the 123 wagon with the motor swap. It is pretty great. 
>>>>> I
>>>>> put the cat back on to pass CARB. It is a euro wagon, so if it were not
>>>>> motor swapped, there would be no way to license it here in CA, lacking as
>>>>> it does a federal emissions sticker. With a 2006 motor it can be done, as
>>>>> long as it conforms to stock tune and emissions specs for 2006. Which it
>>>>> now does.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Adding the cat back cost some performance for sure. But it also made the
>>>>> car far less stinky to drive. It now drives like any modern car, except
>>>>> more torque. The exhaust gas recirculation seems very loud also when it is
>>>>> on, which seems to be mostly when the car is cold for some reason. I think
>>>>> it shuts the VNT vanes down tight to raise the EGP and shunt the exhaust
>>>>> back through a cooler to the intake when the cat is cold.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anyway, the front springs are a little light for the om648. The car is not
>>>>> super low, but the suspension doesn't have enough travel up front, and oil
>>>>> pan will hit a concrete parking stop if I drive up too close. I was
>>>>> thinking of trying some 126 front springs. Anyone know if they are any
>>>>> stiffer? Thanks.
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Re: [MBZ] Corporate spying software

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I would add that there are a lot of companies out there who employ these tools 
but don’t tell their employees. More than you might imagine.

So dumping an employer because they use such things doesn’t make a lot of 
sense. Simply conduct yourself appropriately when working and you’ve got 
nothing to worry about. You’re using their resources to do a job you’re hired 
to do, not to surf the Web or watch “Karen” videos on Facebook.

-D

> On Jun 24, 2021, at 11:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Our company who is currently owned by a holding company was sold to another 
> company recently. This new company is actually owned by the same holding 
> company that owned us anyway so it seemed more like moving it from one hand 
> to the other. Anyway today they announced they will be installing software 
> that captures screen shots, key strokes, and GPS to track where employees 
> are. Wtf? 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Corporate spying software

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And why would this matter unless you’re doing things that aren’t business 
related on the business’ computer(s)?

This is a concept that some people just don’t seem to be able to grasp, and it 
never ceases to amaze me. I’ve seen people who do all sorts of personal stuff 
like deal with doctors, do their taxes, even run a home rental business on a 
work computer. How stupid can you be?

My personal favorite is when someone is job seeking and they use their work 
computer to send out resumes and correspond with potential employers. That 
takes some balls. Or they’re insanely ignorant.

And of course this could be a massive bluff, too. Software that does this is 
stupid expensive. They might be saying this and then just putting it on a small 
group of machines, too.

Quite honestly, they’ve got plenty of information from the logs and browser 
history to nail you up if you’re playing around. We pull this stuff all of the 
time for our HR department. I don’t need screen shots or keystrokes to tell if 
you’re goofing off or where our computer is located.

-D

> On Jun 24, 2021, at 11:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Our company who is currently owned by a holding company was sold to another 
> company recently. This new company is actually owned by the same holding 
> company that owned us anyway so it seemed more like moving it from one hand 
> to the other. Anyway today they announced they will be installing software 
> that captures screen shots, key strokes, and GPS to track where employees 
> are. Wtf? 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Corporate spying software

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It’s a red herring.

We had to fight with our HR department to make some of them understand that 
logging people’s activity was not a means by which you can determine if they 
were working. Fortunately, our HR director recognizes that it’s the employee’s 
work product that shows if they’re performing or not.

Just because an employee is or is not on their computer doesn’t mean they are 
or are not working. It would never stand up in a dispute, unless you have very 
specific activities or tasks that person is supposed to perform.

For instance, I have to complete a training class for a performance item in my 
annual plan. I spent time using the (written) study materials, meaning I was 
not on my computer, I was studying. That doesn’t mean I wasn’t working.

It’s almost as dumb as the employers who use activity monitors - software that 
records or monitors activity on a computer. Push your mouse around once every 
15 minutes and it’s happy. There is even third party software to routinely 
simulate mouse clicks or activity on a timed basis to defeat these. Dumb.

-D

> On Jun 25, 2021, at 8:35 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It doesn’t matter to me as far as doing things I should not be. They 
> announced this as it was supposed to be exciting news and part of our work 
> from home plan. I have already been working from home but it is a new concept 
> for the office people. In this case it sounds like they are basically using  
> it to track when you are working, and where you are at. In my departments 
> case, we have a job to do but are not in front of our computer the whole 
> time. In fact, depending on what we may have scheduled some days we may have 
> some work to do in the morning, but nothing scheduled in the afternoon and 
> just fielding phone calls. In that case we are not sitting there at our 
> computer. We might be on the golf course, or outside working on a old 
> Mercedes, or running errands. It’s just more about big brother corporate 
> overlords than anything. I’m sure there are snowflakes in the office that 
> might need such control. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2021, at 4:22 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> And why would this matter unless you’re doing things that aren’t business 
>> related on the business’ computer(s)?
>> 
>> This is a concept that some people just don’t seem to be able to grasp, and 
>> it never ceases to amaze me. I’ve seen people who do all sorts of personal 
>> stuff like deal with doctors, do their taxes, even run a home rental 
>> business on a work computer. How stupid can you be?
>> 
>> My personal favorite is when someone is job seeking and they use their work 
>> computer to send out resumes and correspond with potential employers. That 
>> takes some balls. Or they’re insanely ignorant.
>> 
>> And of course this could be a massive bluff, too. Software that does this is 
>> stupid expensive. They might be saying this and then just putting it on a 
>> small group of machines, too.
>> 
>> Quite honestly, they’ve got plenty of information from the logs and browser 
>> history to nail you up if you’re playing around. We pull this stuff all of 
>> the time for our HR department. I don’t need screen shots or keystrokes to 
>> tell if you’re goofing off or where our computer is located.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>>> On Jun 24, 2021, at 11:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Our company who is currently owned by a holding company was sold to another 
>>> company recently. This new company is actually owned by the same holding 
>>> company that owned us anyway so it seemed more like moving it from one hand 
>>> to the other. Anyway today they announced they will be installing software 
>>> that captures screen shots, key strokes, and GPS to track where employees 
>>> are. Wtf? 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The difference between the good suppliers and the others.

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Lowe’s is more froo-froo like interior stuff, Home Despot is more nuts and 
boltsy, like for contractors.

I totally agree with your observations, however, and despite my local Lowe’s 
and Home Despot being literally across the street from each other, we only 
patronize the Lowe’s.

We’ve found that with Lowe’s we can negotiate on large purchases, like 
appliances, too. When setting up the house in Indy we were going to buy through 
Costco for some better warranties and such, but went to Lowe’s to see what they 
could do. I gave them the list of things we wanted with model numbers. They 
came back with a far better price than Costco and beat the warranty coverage.

I would add that this is not the first time that we’ve been able to negotiate 
deals there, either.

Their people seem to be better and longer lived in the sense that there’s less 
turnover, too. We’ve worked with a kitchen estimator that’s been there easily 
10 years, and a carpet person for close to that.

Any time I’ve had a concern they’re quick to respond and work with me to 
resolve it.

I’ve probably spent $40k at Lowe’s over the past 10 years, and haven’t 
regretted it in the least.

-D

> On Jun 25, 2021, at 11:11 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I quit going to HD about 15(+?) years ago when they changed management and 
> that guy who took over was trying to chisel every last nickel out of the 
> stores.  I had one close to me in Houston and would spend a LOT there.  I 
> noticed that the parking lot was not being cleaned so there were nails and 
> screws and other trash around, and some of the long-time employees I had 
> gotten to know were leaving or had been demoted and were really unhappy and 
> told me stories about the place  This woman I knew was like asst store 
> manager, really nice and had helped me at different times, was crying one day 
> about losing the job she loved, it was really sad.  The thing that killed it 
> for me was returning a router bit, lifetime guarantee, says right on the 
> package, some of which I had returned for swap before with no problem.  Guy 
> refused to swap it despite saying right there, lifetime guarantee.  Finally 
> the store manager comes over, he is some slick NJ goombah type and he starts 
> yelling at me in the store, it was embarrassing (for him).  I finally just 
> threw the broken bit down and said that was the last I would step foot in a 
> HD, and took my business to Lowes.  The guy mouthed off to me too about that, 
> nice.  That store turned into a rundown sh*thole which was unfortunate as it 
> was probably one of the largest producing stores in Houston given its 
> proximity to rather high-end communities.
> 
> I have been back to a HD here maybe 6-8 times in 13years here, sometimes to 
> pick up on-line orders that only they had the product, the store seems to be 
> noticeably better than back then, so maybe the management (or board I guess) 
> wised up. But I still go mostly to Lowes now.  It's really sad that a 
> business loses touch with their customers like that.
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 6/25/21 10:54 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> I've been ordering a bunch of stuff lately. We're going to be painting the 
>> house up north so I bought a sprayer and some other stuff from Home Depot. 
>> To say $50 in tax I decided to have it shipped to a store in NH. Everything 
>> was listed as "in stock".
>> 
>> Meanwhile, a couple days later, I put in an order from McMaster-Carr and 
>> Surplus Centerfor some bits to finish (HA!) the garden tractor loader build. 
>> Those got shipped to the house.
>> Which do you think arrived first? If you guessed that both McMaster-Carr and 
>> Surplus Center had stuff at my house yesterday and the Home Depot order 
>> STILL isn't ready you'd be right.
>> My guess is that "in stock in store" really means "We don't want to sell it 
>> to an online buyer because somebody might want to buy it in the store so 
>> we'll ship it from the warehouse." I was trying to ensure it'd be there when 
>> I got there. Overall I continue to be unimpressed with Home Depot...
>> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Oh, Dan

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

True, and it’s from a local dealer who sells stuff that’s often less than 
ideal, too. He posts as a private seller on CL regularly.

I’ve already found an ML for that matter, BIG thanks to AZ Bob. 2003 ML350, 
maroon, two owner, 96k on the clock. A very nice example.

-D

> On Jul 7, 2021, at 11:50 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/hudson-2005-mercedes-e320/7347471669.html
> 
> This isn't an ML, however.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 2003 ML320 - 170k miles - $2,500

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It needs a refresh - to something like this:

http://www.autoinfluence.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Holly-2.jpg

-D

> On Jul 4, 2021, at 2:21 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I kinda like the bread truck
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 7/4/21 2:11 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> An ad of few words
>> 
>> https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/d/cedar-lake-2003-ml320/7346062915.html
>> 
>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Grandpa ain’t no cheap ass 2007 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 63 AMG Sedan 4D,$25,000

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Love the color.

-D

> On Jul 4, 2021, at 1:09 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Shit myself a little when I gunned it once…
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/250337216447783
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - compressed air system update

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Thanks for the report. Good to know.

-D

> On Jul 4, 2021, at 6:01 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I decided on the "Maxline M7500 Master Kit, 3/4-Inch x 100-Feet" system.
> After adding another $300 or so in fittings, regulators, filters an driers,
> etc., It's up and holding pressure now. I have two drops in opposite
> corners of the hangar, can tell that the die grinder sounds like it's
> spinning faster, and I don't have to worry about PVC shrapnel while I'm
> working now.
> The system was easy to work with and seems good. Time will tell, hopefully
> for the next owner, long after I'm gone.
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
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> Von Braun
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Frozen iMac computer at boot up

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That all depends on the OS he was running…

-D

> On Jul 4, 2021, at 11:29 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Then you could reload your OS
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 4, 2021, at 11:17 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> I can think of two possible actions:
>>> 1 - new batteries in the keyboard.
>>> 2 - buy a PC ...
>> 
>> There are others.  Boot into recovery mode, if you can, and run the 
>> diagnostics.
>> Or boot into target disk mode and use another system to diagnose it.
>> 
>> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] 2003 ML320 - 170k miles - $2,500

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Just the sort of thing you need in Bloomington - for when those student 
demonstrations get out of hand.

-D

> On Jul 4, 2021, at 2:28 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Our local police dept. used to have one of those. It was their tactical 
> response vehicle.
> 
> Now they have a Bearcat, which was purchased in a rather clandestine fashion 
> with no public debate, which caused a bit of an uproar on both sides of the 
> political spectrum.
> 
> https://www.lencoarmor.com/model/bearcat-g3-police-government/
> 
> Allan
> 
> On Sun, Jul 4, 2021, at 2:21 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> I kinda like the bread truck
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> On 7/4/21 2:11 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>>> An ad of few words
>>> 
>>> https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/d/cedar-lake-2003-ml320/7346062915.html
>>> 
>>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] A Very Nice S550

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Nope.

-D

> On Jul 6, 2021, at 8:13 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You buying?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jul 6, 2021, at 7:46 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> A dealer, but still a nice car:
>> 
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/ctd/d/pinellas-park-mercedes-benz-s550-pkgs/7346850190.html
>> 
>> -D
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[MBZ] A Very Nice S550

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

A dealer, but still a nice car:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/ctd/d/pinellas-park-mercedes-benz-s550-pkgs/7346850190.html

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Floyd's New Ride

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Parts cost. Yeah, that’s a BIG chunk of change on a Rolls.

-D

> On Jun 29, 2021, at 11:03 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> No, you drive it until it breaks, and then sell it to some other dreamer.
> My former brother-in-law loved Jags and Rolls but he was pretty proficient at 
> fixing things so he only needed to cover the parts cost.
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
> On 28/06/2021 3:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> Drive it until it breaks and then walk away.
>> 
>> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 11:54 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I no write?
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> On 6/28/21 11:42 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>>> Exactly. That’s why I used the proper spelling.
>>>> 
>>>> -D
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 11:41 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> Parts and LABOUR
>>>>> 
>>>>> —FT
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 11:15 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>> At least they’ve rebuilt the brakes. That’s easily $3k-$5k of parts
>>> and labour.
>>>>>> -D
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 11:12 AM, G Mann via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> You do know that all Rolls Royce come equipped with an engine driven
>>>>>>> vacuum pump that only connects to your bank accounts. Apparently,
>>> because
>>>>>>> it is a Rolls Royce, the vacuum pump does indeed continue to "Run
>>> While
>>>>>>> Parked".
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 8:08 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Silver Shadow II ! Or 11.  Or Li.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> "$10K is asking price but will consider serious cash offers, trades
>>>>>>>> possible"
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I might seriously offer to trade a much newer wunderbar
>>> German-American
>>>>>>>> SUV with AC that BLOWS ICE COLD.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> And seriously, what could possibly go wrong with a tutone turd-brown
>>>>>>>> 43yo Roller?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --FT
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 6/28/21 10:49 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Sorry, this is it:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>> https://blackjackmotorcarsllc.com/inventory/30026/view/001385/Tampa-FL/1978-Rolls%20Royce-Silver%20Shadow%20Ii
>>>>>>>>> -D
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 10:38 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Looks like you gotta be a local member to see posts.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you could go check it out for me, I could trade a late (late
>>>>>>>> being within the last 15yr) model German SUV imported from Alabama
>>>>>>>>>> --FT
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/28/21 10:24 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/370523373026985/permalink/4155471694532115/?sale_post_id=4155471694532115
>>>>>>>>>>> FB listing for a 1978 Rolls Royce Silve Spur. $10k
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Pretty solid with some interior cosmetics needed.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -D
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

First ones I ever did on one of these engines. I was scared to do them, but the 
few that gave me difficulty came out well with some very careful “back and 
forth” work on them as well as soaking with Kroil in advance for about a week.

-D

On Jun 29, 2021, at 9:11 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Thanks Dan, good to know, gives me a much better feeling about taking on this 
job.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Jun 28, 2021 8:54:55 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>:

I know I did a complete set and they were Bosch. Later on I was told that 
modern Bosch GPs were lacking in quality and that Beru were considered far 
better and longer lasting.

I used antiseize on them and reamed them.

-D

On Jun 28, 2021, at 8:50 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:

Ah, well there's been at least two glow plug jobs recently then, so that's 
good, probably won't have any stuck glow plugs.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Jun 28, 2021 8:47:38 PM dan penoff.com 
via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>:

I did the glow plugs on that car, but unfortunately I used Bosch. I have 
learned since that they are suboptimal.

Kleb’s just miffed because I sold you the car and he missed out on the deal.

-D

On Jun 28, 2021, at 8:42 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:

Maybe I should follow your lead and buy some jalopy from Hoovie?

The AC was not working and I knew that going into the deal.

But now that you mention it, one of the glow plugs has died, so I need to do 
that job now.  Dan's son or the previous owner had just paid for that job, 
there was a receipt with the car, but I'll bet the garage that did that used 
some cheap brand of plugs.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Jun 28, 2021 6:18:36 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>:

Now the truth comes out, poos ripped you off.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:09 PM, dan 
penoff.com via 
Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:

I’m thinking we put a can of sealant into that system a while back. The good 
stuff, too.

-D

On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:

Yeah, last summer I put some test refrigerant in and got out the sniffer,
and no sign at all of leakage from the evap.  I should probably test it
again now, just to be sure.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 5:53 PM dan 
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Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 wrote:

Glad it wasn’t the evaporator…

-D

On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 wrote:

Finally got hot enough for me to decide to fix the AC in the '95 E300 I
bought from Dan a couple years ago.  Took all of an hour, if that, to get
the compressor out (front seal was leaking).  After removing the wiper
washer fluid tank and loosening the serpentine belt, I had easy access
from
above to get all four bolts loose, remove the manifold connection, and
also
the electrical connection on top of the compressor.

And then OCD takes over, and I spent about 5 hours cleaning off the
compressor, carefully opening it up, carefully taking it completely apart
and replacing every seal and o-ring, and using the proper PAG-46 oil
filling it back up with oil. There was some nastiness on the valve
plates,
kind of burned looking, like maybe the compressor was run low on oil or
something.  If this thing dies, I'll have to spring for a new compressor
I
guess.  Rebuilt two other compressors and never saw anything like this.

The nice thing about these Denso compressors, 10PA-15, is the only
special
tool required is a belt wrench or a chain wrench to hold the clutch while
you loosen the front nut, and then a shaft seal sleave to cover the
compressor shaft splines as you press the front case back on with the new
shaft seal.

Popped that back in, replaced the filter/dryer, then vacuum and fill the
system up.  Took me about 8 hours all together, but ICE COLD AC is now
back.

Only weird thing is that the recirculation function doesn't work.  Press
the button and the light comes on while you hold the button down, but as
soon as you let go, the light goes out.  Not able to troubleshoot that
yet,
could be a bad switch I suppose or might be the PBU.

[MBZ] This is Nice, But...

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Holy. $20k for an 11 year old stripper with 23k on the clock:

https://www.carmax.com/car/20866110?adcode=EM_SS1Match

-D

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Re: [MBZ] This is Nice, But...

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

This is true, but a Mercedes mechanic I know says that the warranties they 
offer are great - he’s had as much as $8k worth of work on their cars and they 
pay the bill, no questions asked. For that he says it’s worth it.

For sure.

-D

> On Jul 2, 2021, at 3:16 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> CarMax prices at the top of the market or above and their "no haggling" 
> policy for some reason makes people think it's a good deal.
> 
> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/indianapolis-2008-ford-ranger/7345110258.html
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 2, 2021, at 1:30 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Holy. $20k for an 11 year old stripper with 23k on the clock:
>> 
>> https://www.carmax.com/car/20866110?adcode=EM_SS1Match
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] OT - batteries and their warrantees

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I stopped using Costco batteries as I found them to leak in several instances. 
I went back to using Duracells.

-D

> On Jul 2, 2021, at 7:04 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> For the first time, I decided to test the "we'll replace your device if our
> battery leaks and kills it". Three Rayovac fancy AAA batteries leaked in my
> fancy though inexpensive multimeter since the last time I used it (6 months
> ago???).
> I contacted Rayovac, got an immediate reply listing the hoops I had to jump
> through (lots of photos of every number on each battery). I provided the
> requested info and photos, and got an email back telling me that they are
> sending a check in about 21 days.
> If the check arrives (and I have no reason to doubt that it will), I'll be
> impressed that they stood behind their promise.[image: device battery
> compartment (Small).jpg]
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Electric Vehicles On Collision Course With Reality

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One of the things I’ve heard of late and agree with is that the infrastructure 
to support charging at a scale that some are attempting to envision just 
doesn’t exist and probably never will.

-D


> On Jul 2, 2021, at 10:47 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Am I being too simplistic to wonder what will happen when all the cars are 
> electric (green wet dream) and all other consumer electronic/electrical 
> devices depend on plug in 110v for charging?  Seems to me, when that kind of 
> demand hits, the solar and wind farms will be woefully unable to 
> adequate;'fill the need?
> 
> tia,
> Larry
> 06 S350..
> 
> On 7/2/2021 8:07 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
>> No, the freight rail issue was the railroads trying to get a monopoly and 
>> shut everyone else down.  Huge shipping rate wars resulted in the collapse 
>> of the rail beds and operations because they weren't making enough money, in 
>> spite of being able to legally cooperate on setting rates.  Corporate 
>> stupidity.  Bankrupted the New York Central after they bought everyone else 
>> on the East Coast, leaving the nation with NO freight rail until the Feds 
>> stepped in, and killed the passenger service.  We got the grossly 
>> underfunded AmTrack instead.
>> 
>> The rail system should have been nationalized during WWi and operated like 
>> the highway system, with the rail companies operating the trains and the 
>> rails being owned and operated by the Federal government (like highways).  
>> Rail companies paid highway fuel tax on diesel fuel into the 1980s, directly 
>> subsidizing their competition.
>> 
>> To give you an idea of how crazy the rail system is, the 20th Century 
>> Limited from New York to Chicago passed over the rails owned and maintained 
>> by something like 175 railroad companies, some of which owned less the 20 
>> miles of track and had not owned equipment since the early teens.
>> 
>> Shear lunacy.  This includes the fact that for many years going west of the 
>> Mississippi River required going through Chicago, even if you were going 
>> from New Orleans to Alberquerque.  All the rails were laid by private 
>> companies for whatever they were doing in the mid to late 1800s, and in 
>> those days everything in the West (since it was almost all cattle being 
>> shipped for export) went to Chicago.  Once the local companies serving 
>> smaller cities dropped passenger service you have to take one of the big 
>> lines (if they still had service) and they all ran through Chicago.  Take a 
>> look at the railroad maps sometime if you don't believe me.
>> 
>> If I could take a train from Evansville to St. Louis I'd get to visit my 
>> niece and nephew a lot more, and could have take my Mom some years longer 
>> than we could in a car.
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[MBZ] Cars, Cars, Who Has the Cars?

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Was at the local MB dealer today. Lot looked like a ghost town. Chatted up the 
GM who was walking by when I was leaving and he said that they had fewer than 
50 (new) cars in inventory and none on the way. He said his “pre-owned” people 
are out scouring the private market for cars to resell.

It was a pretty surreal sight.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Ammo

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I would defer to Mitch, as he’s the firearms expert around here.

I loves my Ruger revolver despite it being single action. I have a Super Single 
Six as well that shoots .22, which is a blast and cheap to shoot all day long. 
I think single action makes you work a little harder to make your shot, since 
you’ve got to cock the trigger every time.

-D

> On Jun 30, 2021, at 6:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I know little about firearms but have seen the Ruger 57 showing up in my 
> YouTube recommendations, etc. Any thoughts? Shoots 5.7x28mm, a lighter round 
> but faster and with similar energy as 9mm. Supposedly less recoil (though if 
> energy is similar I'm not sure that makes sense) and more accurate.
> 
> It's apparently a more expensive round also, at least for now.
> 
> Allan
> 
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, at 6:22 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Looks like stuff is starting to trickle back into stock. I’ve been able to 
>> get some decent quality 9mm lately, despite having to pay $0.50/round. Ouch. 
>> Noticed there were tons of .38 special a few weeks ago, but that seemed to 
>> evaporate. I wanted to stock back up for my Ruger Blackhawk .357. Far more 
>> enjoyable shooting .38 special in it than .357. More shots with less wrist 
>> soreness.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Ammo

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Steel casing. Nope. Only brass in my stuff.

-D

> On Jun 30, 2021, at 9:40 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> the cost of shipping doesn’t make it any better of a deal than what I get 
>> from my regular ammo supplier.
> 
> Huh. I would figure shipping from somewhere close wouldn't be too much.
> 
> Like this place in Sarasota.
> 
> https://www.sharkcoasttactical.com/product/tula-9mm-luger-115gr-fmj-non-corrosive-1000-round-case/
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Ammo

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I have, too, but I’ve found that by the time I check on someone’s stock it’s 
either gone or the cost of shipping doesn’t make it any better of a deal than 
what I get from my regular ammo supplier.

Ammograb is another one  I’ve looked at. 

-D

> On Jun 30, 2021, at 7:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I've used ammoseek.com to find the best prices.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: June 30, 2021 5:23 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: d...@penoff.com
> Subject: [MBZ] OT - Ammo
> 
> Looks like stuff is starting to trickle back into stock. I’ve been able to 
> get some decent quality 9mm lately, despite having to pay $0.50/round. Ouch. 
> Noticed there were tons of .38 special a few weeks ago, but that seemed to 
> evaporate. I wanted to stock back up for my Ruger Blackhawk .357. Far more 
> enjoyable shooting .38 special in it than .357. More shots with less wrist 
> soreness.
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] 2000 CLK320 - 102k miles - $4,000

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

The DAS can read some of the top stuff, but not much - it’s pretty much a black 
box for the most part.

BBA Reman can rebuild and repair them, although it’s not cheap. I think I paid 
$350 some years back for mine to get repaired when it was throwing a fault I 
couldn’t clear. I was able to determine there was a fault in the controller, 
but what that fault was could not be revealed in DAS. Some research suggested 
that the accelerometer that’s in the controller was bad. This is critical for 
the operation of the roll bar, so if it fails the roll bar won’t deploy in a 
rollover. In pre-facelift models this is controlled by microswitches on the the 
rear suspension, but in facelift models that job was taken over by an 
accelerometer that’s inside of the top controller.

It acted up again a few years later, but since they have a lifetime warranty I 
just sent it back and they repaired it for free. I marked it so I knew if they 
replaced or just repaired it, and I got my controller back.

-D

> On Jun 29, 2021, at 3:17 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I know, but I doubt if there is much difference in the electronics, maybe 
> some other newer version, but I am guessing they are just as temperamental.  
> On the 129 the top controller stuff is some sort of black art to try to scan 
> and reset too, that might have improved with this model although if it is 
> like my 99E320 the HHTWIN is problematic in trying to dig into it too but it 
> might be the software and the implementation on this thing I bought.  Did you 
> ever do that on your SL500 when you did the hydraulics and how did that go?
> 
> In any case if the fuse and switch are not bad or need cleaning, could be a 
> PITA to chase it all down.  I don't know if the iCarsoft could read the top 
> stuff or not, it is hit or miss sometimes on the 210, so DAS/HHTWIN would be 
> needed if not, and even if that would work I don't know.  I guess it wouldn't 
> hurt to try to scan it, and then use any (non-) results to beat on the guy if 
> someone wanted to do that to try to get a deal on the car and deal with it.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 6/29/21 2:56 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> If it’s a CLK it’s not an R129. That being said, I know nothing about the 
>> top controllers on these and if they are any better or different from the 
>> R129s.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 29, 2021, at 2:46 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> the controllers can fry and they are spendy, all kinds of horror stories 
>>> with the R129s about jump starting them and frying the controller
>>> 
>>> My guess is the fuse if it has been sitting.  I'd check the battery voltage 
>>> and fuse first, ask if he tried to jumpstart it after sitting and buggered 
>>> it up that way.  these top controllers and all that stuff are very 
>>> problematic even if the hydraulics are working.  Might also need fluid but 
>>> that is easy.  I don't understand that business about the switches, but 
>>> they could be buggered too and need a good cleaning.
>>> 
>>> I'd offer $2k as it sits as the car looks nice, with the expectation that 
>>> the fix COULD be pricey and buying it could be an expensive risk, and if he 
>>> wants to keep messing with it to sell it then fine, here's my offer.  Maybe 
>>> some other fool would go more.
>>> 
>>> Plus apparently his phone will drain out the pics if he turns it sideways 
>>> to get the whole car in the pic, so he's an idiot anyway.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> On 6/29/21 2:17 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>>>> Obviously anything's possible on a 20 year old car, but are the power top 
>>>> motors/controllers a weak point on these?
>>>> 
>>>> Allan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021, at 2:02 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>> $2k then. If the motor  or controller is shot that’s big money.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Did he CHECK YOUR FUSES???
>>>>> 
>>>>> --FT
>>>>> Sent from iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 29, 2021, at 1:49 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "when i parked car for winter piwer top worked fine when i got back out 
>>>>>> for summer no longer works"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://dayton.craigslist.org/cto/d/west-alexandria-2000-mercedes-benz/7343527854.html
>>>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 2000 CLK320 - 102k miles - $4,000

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If it’s a CLK it’s not an R129. That being said, I know nothing about the top 
controllers on these and if they are any better or different from the R129s.

-D


> On Jun 29, 2021, at 2:46 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> the controllers can fry and they are spendy, all kinds of horror stories with 
> the R129s about jump starting them and frying the controller
> 
> My guess is the fuse if it has been sitting.  I'd check the battery voltage 
> and fuse first, ask if he tried to jumpstart it after sitting and buggered it 
> up that way.  these top controllers and all that stuff are very problematic 
> even if the hydraulics are working.  Might also need fluid but that is easy.  
> I don't understand that business about the switches, but they could be 
> buggered too and need a good cleaning.
> 
> I'd offer $2k as it sits as the car looks nice, with the expectation that the 
> fix COULD be pricey and buying it could be an expensive risk, and if he wants 
> to keep messing with it to sell it then fine, here's my offer.  Maybe some 
> other fool would go more.
> 
> Plus apparently his phone will drain out the pics if he turns it sideways to 
> get the whole car in the pic, so he's an idiot anyway.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 6/29/21 2:17 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> Obviously anything's possible on a 20 year old car, but are the power top 
>> motors/controllers a weak point on these?
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021, at 2:02 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>>> $2k then. If the motor  or controller is shot that’s big money.
>>> 
>>> Did he CHECK YOUR FUSES???
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 29, 2021, at 1:49 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 "when i parked car for winter piwer top worked fine when i got back out 
 for summer no longer works"
 
 https://dayton.craigslist.org/cto/d/west-alexandria-2000-mercedes-benz/7343527854.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] Snook-mobile For Sale

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That must have been his long range plan if the title is still an Okie title.

Let’s see if Kleb buys it back.

-D

> On Jun 29, 2021, at 3:06 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The Donald is selling the former Okie Acres car.
> 
> https://m.facebook.com/groups/W123NA/permalink/4094960373904004/?ref=m_notif_t=group_activity
> 
> https://m.facebook.com/donald.h.snook/posts/pcb.4094960373904004/?photo_id=10159204848198685=%2Fphotos%2Fviewer%2F%3Fphotoset_token%3Dpcb.4094960373904004%26photo%3D10159204848198685%26profileid%3D10265382238%26source%3D48%26refid%3D18%26ref%3Dm_notif%26notif_t%3Dgroup_activity%26__tn__%3DEH-R%26cached_data%3Dfalse%26ftid%3D=1=1
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Re: [MBZ] Corporate spying software

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They don’t have to go to web sites to get phished. Their mail account can be 
scraped from thousands of places on the web, or picked up off the dark web for 
compromised sources.

-D


On Jun 25, 2021, at 4:42 PM, Curt Raymond 
mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

If they couldn't go to those websites at all then they couldn't get phished...

-Curt

On Friday, June 25, 2021, 4:38:38 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via 
Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


Actually, those things wouldn’t make a lot of difference when it comes to 
ransomware. The vehicle for ransomware is email and people who get sucked into 
clicking on things they shouldn’t.

Phishing is where it’s at, and humans are the weak link.

-D

> On Jun 25, 2021, at 4:14 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
>> If they want to give me a locked-down machine, that can only access the 
>> internal network, VPN, a whitelist of approved external sites, etc. then
> fine, and it may be appropriate for a variety of reasons
>
> If corporations did that, they wouldn't be exposed to ransomware attacks 
> quite so often.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Corporate spying software

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Geez, what a bunch of cheapskates. $135k/year for a CIO in the government 
sector? No wonder people leave. That’s pretty lousy pay, especially for being 
in the GWN. Even in my government space that’s a $150k-$175k/year job.

He bailed to go to Homeland Security, where he’s making more money and still in 
the government sector.

-D

> On Jun 25, 2021, at 9:33 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Gmail is Verboten on the work system.  That does not stop bad things from 
> coming through.  AK courts are being held hostage by ransomware.  Lawyer gets 
> an email from those courts and it could contain malware.  And to make matters 
> more interesting— 
> https://www.alaskapublic.org/2021/06/24/amid-cyberattacks-alaskas-top-cybersecurity-official-quietly-left-his-job/
> 
> Pavlov and Skinner are easier to use than technical artistry if you want to 
> access computer systems.  
> 
> Clay
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2021, at 2:11 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> A lot of corporations have moved to Google mail and docs. So they can't
>> really block Gmail from work computers. Maybe Google has some way to
>> restrict it from their side as part of the corporate account setup.
>> 
>> One of the downsides of outsourcing this stuff is you give up some
>> control. Of course most companies do even worse trying to administer it
>> themselves.
>> 
>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] The Next Dan Mobile?

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Yes, and the radio is trashed.

These use the D2B fiber optic setup, and if someone goofs with it there’s 
little chance of getting it back in original condition. There is no easy way to 
interface between the Bose system and an aftermarket stereo. Just about 
anything you’ll find is a kludge.

Looked at a 2007 ML500 tonight. Sounded really good, had a really good history. 
Owner was a chain smoker and had clearly not cared for it in the last couple of 
years. Sad what someone can do to a 15 year old car that was really nice two 
years ago. The reeking of cigarette smoke was the icing on the cake.

The search continues. Sigh.

-D

> On Jun 25, 2021, at 6:07 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Higher miles than you'd like, I'm sure.
> 
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/pinellas-park-2002-mercedes-benz-ml320/7342064706.html
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Re: [MBZ] Corporate spying software

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Actually, those things wouldn’t make a lot of difference when it comes to 
ransomware. The vehicle for ransomware is email and people who get sucked into 
clicking on things they shouldn’t.

Phishing is where it’s at, and humans are the weak link.

-D

> On Jun 25, 2021, at 4:14 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> If they want to give me a locked-down machine, that can only access the 
>> internal network, VPN, a whitelist of approved external sites, etc. then
> fine, and it may be appropriate for a variety of reasons
> 
> If corporations did that, they wouldn't be exposed to ransomware attacks 
> quite so often.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] The Next Dan Mobile?

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You never know unless you look. Sucks, but there will be others. With bun 
warmers, hopefully.

-D

> On Jun 25, 2021, at 9:20 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yeah with the Bose you have to bypass most of the system and go direct to the 
> speakers. Might or might not work well. 
> 
> Sorry to hear about the ML. Bummer. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2021, at 8:27 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, and the radio is trashed.
>> 
>> These use the D2B fiber optic setup, and if someone goofs with it there’s 
>> little chance of getting it back in original condition. There is no easy way 
>> to interface between the Bose system and an aftermarket stereo. Just about 
>> anything you’ll find is a kludge.
>> 
>> Looked at a 2007 ML500 tonight. Sounded really good, had a really good 
>> history. Owner was a chain smoker and had clearly not cared for it in the 
>> last couple of years. Sad what someone can do to a 15 year old car that was 
>> really nice two years ago. The reeking of cigarette smoke was the icing on 
>> the cake.
>> 
>> The search continues. Sigh.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 25, 2021, at 6:07 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Higher miles than you'd like, I'm sure.
>>> 
>>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/pinellas-park-2002-mercedes-benz-ml320/7342064706.html
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Corporate spying software

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They do, but they’re not perfect. I can tell you that we see on average about 
200-250 emails a day that either have malware or are phishing that get caught 
by ATP (advanced threat protection). And consider that this is a dynamic thing, 
in that these perpetrators are constantly crafting and re-crafting stuff as 
quickly as it gets caught.

For example, our county attorney got phished this morning with an email crafted 
to appear that it was from one of our consulting attorneys from an outside law 
firm, asking him to open/download an attachment that claimed to be information 
for a case they were working on for us. The payload was bogus and would have 
blown up had they attempted to do so. Fortunately, a sharp-eyed assistant noted 
that the “from” domain didn’t match the firm’s domain so she reported it. And 
it has been my experience that attorneys are typically far from tech-savvy.

We use Outlook in an Azure tenant, which goes a long way in killing this stuff 
as you’ve got the collective exposure of literally millions of accounts that 
Microsoft administers in the cloud, so there are economies of scale from the 
standpoint of identifying bad stuff and then sharing that information out.

We beat it into our employees that if it looks even remotely sketchy, delete it 
or hit our “Phish button” in their mail client. That sends it to a sandboxed 
email account where we can analyze it and see if it’s malicious. We’ll often 
blacklist domains that this stuff comes from once we’ve gone over it, too, as 
well as reporting it up the chain to Microsoft and others.

We also use endpoint detection that resides on the workstations, and the second 
it sees something funky going on it immediately locks the machine down and 
alerts. So even if something does get past the user and starts to do something 
malicious, we’ll know it and that machine gets isolated.

Not foolproof, but it helps. A good line of work to be in, like being an 
undertaker. No matter how bad things get, there will all ways be a need for our 
services…

-D

> On Jun 25, 2021, at 6:04 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> Actually, those things wouldn’t make a lot of difference when it comes to 
>> ransomware. The vehicle for ransomware is email and people who get sucked 
>> into clicking on things they shouldn’t.
> 
> Hmm. So you are saying corporate email accounts don't have stringent email 
> filtering to weed out such things? I'm not being sarcastic, I don't have 
> corporate email accounts, so I am ignorant of such things.
> 
> Or is it people opening their personal email on corporate computers? That 
> wouldn't happen if it was locked down.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] FCPEuro

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I’ve found that more often than not FCP’s free shipping gets things to me as 
fast or faster than the paid option.

I saw this today on FB marketplace and messaged the guy. No word back yet:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1282151905538067/

2008 ML550. “Needs a little work” according to the seller. Says it shifts 
poorly from 1-2, but the ATF is low and they don’t have time to top it off. At 
first I thought this was a red herring, but then I remembered that the 722.9 
trannys have to be filled from the pan with a pump and the fill adapter, right?

-D 

> On Jun 26, 2021, at 8:26 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I ordered 2 transmission service kits for the $900E500 and $1200ML500 
> Thursday evening. Selected the free shipping option that said it would be 
> here next Friday. Ok fine. 2-day shipping was a lot. 
> 
> Got messages this morning it’s on a fedex truck for delivery today, shipped 
> out of Milford CT yesterday. Free 2-day shipping, almost as good as Amazon 
> Prime which delivered a fluid pump yesterday evening late after ordering it 
> Thursday too. 
> 
> Learnings:  Don’t pay for expedited shipping. 
> 
> Looks like I can try to get the $1200ML500 sorted tomorrow, see if I can get 
> it transmitting properly. The E I gotta send off for a new conductor plate 
> ($$$) and get that running. 
> 
> If the ML works that’s a quick flip as I don’t particularly care for it.  
> Even if not I’ll try to unload it.  The E is very nice and entertaining to 
> drive though a quite boring color combo, so I might enjoy it for a little 
> while and pretend to be a boring old white man. Maybe I should break out some 
> black knee socks and sandals.  
> 
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Re: [MBZ] FCPEuro

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Can you see the level using the DAS? I would expect to take my laptop and scan 
the p*ss out of it before I considered buying it.

-D

> On Jun 26, 2021, at 8:59 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That looks nice. 
> 
> It’s probably been forever that the fluid has been changed.  Apparently the 
> “lifetime” fluid likes to be changed every 40kmi.  I’d beat him down on price 
> based on that (and how would he know it’s low, there’s no dipstick) then do a 
> drain/flush (through the cooler lines) then refill. Yes you need a pump and 
> tool to fill from the bottom and a scanner to get the temp up to 45C (I 
> think) and watch that, then add or drain fluid until it doesn’t drip out the 
> drain/fill hole. 
> 
> There’s a whole procedure, not hard but more involved than the 722.6, will 
> take 9-10L to do it all with the cooler flush. Youtubers abound. 
> 
> The kit has 7L, I ordered another 5L jug so should be enough for both. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 26, 2021, at 8:35 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I saw this today on FB marketplace and messaged the guy. No word back yet:
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1282151905538067/
>> 
>> 2008 ML550. “Needs a little work” according to the seller. Says it shifts 
>> poorly from 1-2, but the ATF is low and they don’t have time to top it off. 
>> At first I thought this was a red herring, but then I remembered that the 
>> 722.9 trannys have to be filled from the pan with a pump and the fill 
>> adapter, right?
>> 
>> -D 
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Re: [MBZ] FCPEuro

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And then you have the adapter that fits in the tube that you have to use to 
pump fluid into it?

I’m surprised the DAS wouldn’t give you fluid level like it does for engine oil.

-D

> On Jun 26, 2021, at 9:15 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nope. There’s a little tube about 2” long that sits above the drain plug in 
> the pan that sets the level of the fluid. To drain the fluid you have to poke 
> it out with a drift after you open the drain plug, it just fits in there with 
> an o-ring. 
> 
> It’s an abysmally stupid design, a dipstick/fill tube would be so much 
> easier. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 26, 2021, at 9:03 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Can you see the level using the DAS? I would expect to take my laptop and 
>> scan the p*ss out of it before I considered buying it.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 26, 2021, at 8:59 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That looks nice. 
>>> 
>>> It’s probably been forever that the fluid has been changed.  Apparently the 
>>> “lifetime” fluid likes to be changed every 40kmi.  I’d beat him down on 
>>> price based on that (and how would he know it’s low, there’s no dipstick) 
>>> then do a drain/flush (through the cooler lines) then refill. Yes you need 
>>> a pump and tool to fill from the bottom and a scanner to get the temp up to 
>>> 45C (I think) and watch that, then add or drain fluid until it doesn’t drip 
>>> out the drain/fill hole. 
>>> 
>>> There’s a whole procedure, not hard but more involved than the 722.6, will 
>>> take 9-10L to do it all with the cooler flush. Youtubers abound. 
>>> 
>>> The kit has 7L, I ordered another 5L jug so should be enough for both. 
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 26, 2021, at 8:35 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I saw this today on FB marketplace and messaged the guy. No word back yet:
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1282151905538067/
>>>> 
>>>> 2008 ML550. “Needs a little work” according to the seller. Says it shifts 
>>>> poorly from 1-2, but the ATF is low and they don’t have time to top it 
>>>> off. At first I thought this was a red herring, but then I remembered that 
>>>> the 722.9 trannys have to be filled from the pan with a pump and the fill 
>>>> adapter, right?
>>>> 
>>>> -D 
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Re: [MBZ] Floyd's New Ride

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Exactly. That’s why I used the proper spelling.

-D

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 11:41 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Parts and LABOUR
> 
> —FT
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 11:15 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> At least they’ve rebuilt the brakes. That’s easily $3k-$5k of parts and 
>> labour.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 11:12 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You do know that all Rolls Royce come equipped with an engine driven
>>> vacuum pump that only connects to your bank accounts. Apparently, because
>>> it is a Rolls Royce, the vacuum pump does indeed continue to "Run While
>>> Parked".
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 8:08 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Silver Shadow II ! Or 11.  Or Li.
>>>> 
>>>> "$10K is asking price but will consider serious cash offers, trades
>>>> possible"
>>>> 
>>>> I might seriously offer to trade a much newer wunderbar German-American
>>>> SUV with AC that BLOWS ICE COLD.
>>>> 
>>>> And seriously, what could possibly go wrong with a tutone turd-brown
>>>> 43yo Roller?
>>>> 
>>>> --FT
>>>> 
>>>> On 6/28/21 10:49 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>> Sorry, this is it:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> https://blackjackmotorcarsllc.com/inventory/30026/view/001385/Tampa-FL/1978-Rolls%20Royce-Silver%20Shadow%20Ii
>>>>> 
>>>>> -D
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 10:38 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Looks like you gotta be a local member to see posts.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Maybe you could go check it out for me, I could trade a late (late
>>>> being within the last 15yr) model German SUV imported from Alabama
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --FT
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6/28/21 10:24 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/370523373026985/permalink/4155471694532115/?sale_post_id=4155471694532115
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> FB listing for a 1978 Rolls Royce Silve Spur. $10k
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Pretty solid with some interior cosmetics needed.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -D
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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[MBZ] Fwd: German Cars For Sale Blog

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This is nice. Love the color.

-D

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1997 Mercedes-Benz 
E420

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With basically all the attention paid to the E55 AMG when talking about the 
W210 Mercedes-Benz E-Class, I think sometimes we forget that there was another 
V8 in the family. Well, technically two V8s with the aging M119 in the E420 and 
the new kid on the block M113 with the facelift E430. Today, we have one of the 
best early E420s I think I’ve come across in a long time, and even better, it 
is painted in Viola Metallic. This won’t last long.

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1997 Mercedes-Benz E420 on 
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Year: 1997
Model: E420
VIN: WDBJF72F4VA108344
Engine: 4.2 liter V8
Transmission: 5-speed automatic
Mileage: 57,450 mi
Location: San Diego, California
Price: $8,950 Buy It Now

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About this vehicle
This 1997 Mercedes-Benz E420 is an original. The owner has had it for 3 years. 
The vehicle runs great and is mainly used for weekend drives.
Seller’s Notes
I have more pictures and video available, please let me know No low ball 
offers, I know real value of the car. Only responsible buyers
Vehicle Details
Mercedes Benz E W210 with V8, this is an original low miles car, with a clean 
history in amazing shape, it still feels like a new car when you drive it, the 
interior is like new, the paint is beautiful, no leaks whatsoever, all manual 
books come with the car. XENON headlights with washer system, Mercedes 
telephone system Leather seats with dual memory package, electric steering 
column, heated seats, sunroof, climate control, BOSE sound system e.t.c. 
Everything is fully functional. zero rust, no dents all necessary maintaice has 
been done. Don’t miss your chance to buy that beauty

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for the US-market, so if you wanted a V8 E-Class in late-1996 and early-1997, 
this was it. A major factor on this one is obviously the Viola Metallic paint, 
and given how many of these were silver/tan/grey/black/white, this one is a 
breath of fresh air. I know not everyone can do purple cars, but I am all for 
it. Add in just over 57,000 miles, and this one looks like a winner to me.

The Buy It Now price tag of $9,000 seems reasonable given how the market has 
been, but makes me think twice considering I’ve purchased two E55s for less 
than that. Still, I think this is an awesome buy and priced reasonable, so it 
wouldn’t surprise me if it sells fairly soon, if not already sold. Grab it 
while you can, but I don’t think there is another like it.

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[MBZ] Floyd's New Ride

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https://www.facebook.com/groups/370523373026985/permalink/4155471694532115/?sale_post_id=4155471694532115

FB listing for a 1978 Rolls Royce Silve Spur. $10k

Pretty solid with some interior cosmetics needed.

-D



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Re: [MBZ] Floyd's New Ride

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At least they’ve rebuilt the brakes. That’s easily $3k-$5k of parts and labour.

-D

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 11:12 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> You do know that all Rolls Royce come equipped with an engine driven
> vacuum pump that only connects to your bank accounts. Apparently, because
> it is a Rolls Royce, the vacuum pump does indeed continue to "Run While
> Parked".
> 
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 8:08 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Silver Shadow II ! Or 11.  Or Li.
>> 
>> "$10K is asking price but will consider serious cash offers, trades
>> possible"
>> 
>> I might seriously offer to trade a much newer wunderbar German-American
>> SUV with AC that BLOWS ICE COLD.
>> 
>> And seriously, what could possibly go wrong with a tutone turd-brown
>> 43yo Roller?
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> On 6/28/21 10:49 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Sorry, this is it:
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://blackjackmotorcarsllc.com/inventory/30026/view/001385/Tampa-FL/1978-Rolls%20Royce-Silver%20Shadow%20Ii
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 10:38 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Looks like you gotta be a local member to see posts.
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe you could go check it out for me, I could trade a late (late
>> being within the last 15yr) model German SUV imported from Alabama
>>>> 
>>>> --FT
>>>> 
>>>> On 6/28/21 10:24 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/370523373026985/permalink/4155471694532115/?sale_post_id=4155471694532115
>>>>> 
>>>>> FB listing for a 1978 Rolls Royce Silve Spur. $10k
>>>>> 
>>>>> Pretty solid with some interior cosmetics needed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -D
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights

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Agreed, the enloops are by far the best rechargeables out there in my 
experience.

-D

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 10:03 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> How much is shocking? Amazon has Panasonic enloops @ $15 for 4. Its a little 
> more than I paid for Sanyos in 2014 ($12) but not staggeringly.
> I wouldn't buy anything other than enloops and I'd stick to a name brand.
> Get a good charger too, I have the older version of this: 
> https://www.amazon.com/Powerex-MH-C9000PRO-Professional-Charger-Analyzer/dp/B08DJDQ4Y8/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1=maha=1624888949=8-3
> The only thing I buy batteries for is the game camera, because theytake 8x 
> AAs and the batteries last a year anyway...
> 
> -Curt
> 
>On Monday, June 28, 2021, 9:24:11 AM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel 
>  wrote:  
> 
> I needed some rechargeable AAAs and D cells and was shocked at the cost - 
> even on ebay.  Must be the price inflation for Li.
> 
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 8:03 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>  These will use like 1/5 of the energy and last 20x as long. In the long run 
> they're a way better deal if for no other reason than you wont need to find 
> and replace as much.LEDs are much more rugged in use too.
> One of my favorite features of the gas fridge at camp is the LED lights in 
> it. They use 3x AA batteries, just have to remember to take one out when we 
> go home or the lights stay on...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 4:35:59 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
>  Funny how we are happy to now pay $20+ for two 100W bulbs, when the same 
> rated incandescent bulbs would have cost maybe $1 before they were banned.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 26, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> I was at Costco this afternoon and they had these LED lights you screw 
>> into a regular bulb fixture, they have 3 parts you can adjust to aim 
>> them to the side, down, whatever.  Pack of 2 for $20 on sale.  I had 
>> seen these things on web adverts and they were a bit more than that, 
>> like $11 or $13 each.  So I bought a set and put them in the garage shop 
>> when I got home. WHOA These things are great, much more light than a 
>> 100W bulb and you can orient them to shine on a large area.  I think I'm 
>> going to get another set to go into these little rooms in the back of 
>> the garage where I have other stuff.
>> 
>> If you are a Costco member I would strongly recommend getting some. They 
>> are so transformative Bob is now my auntie!
>> 
>> -- 
>> --FT
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Floyd's New Ride

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Sorry, this is it:

https://blackjackmotorcarsllc.com/inventory/30026/view/001385/Tampa-FL/1978-Rolls%20Royce-Silver%20Shadow%20Ii

-D

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 10:38 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Looks like you gotta be a local member to see posts.
> 
> Maybe you could go check it out for me, I could trade a late (late being 
> within the last 15yr) model German SUV imported from Alabama
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 6/28/21 10:24 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/370523373026985/permalink/4155471694532115/?sale_post_id=4155471694532115
>> 
>> FB listing for a 1978 Rolls Royce Silve Spur. $10k
>> 
>> Pretty solid with some interior cosmetics needed.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
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[MBZ] Okie/Floyd Acres Potential

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Conductor plate?

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/tampa-1998-mercedes-benz-e320/7343271703.html

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Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights

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Maybe it’s the quality of the lamps you’re buying?

I buy only name brand, like GE, and I’ve got a house full of them that are at 
least a couple years old or more. Have yet to replace one.

I did have to replace one in an outside fixture, but it’s on roughly 8-12 hours 
a day and it’s in an inverted position, which I suspect might have something to 
do with the failure, not to mention the temperature and climate extremes it’s 
exposed to.

I gladly use LEDs over CFLs, as I hate having to wait for them to “warm up”.

-D

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 1:12 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have not experienced the LED lights lasting longer. Maybe the LEDs 
> themselves do, but there are electronics to convert the 120VAC line supply to 
> whatever the LED needs and that seems to be the weak point. I am replacing 
> LED bulbs (and CFLs before that) about as often as I did incandescents.
> 
> Allan
> 
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 8:02 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>> 
>> These will use like 1/5 of the energy and last 20x as long. In the long run 
>> they're a way better deal if for no other reason than you wont need to find 
>> and replace as much.
>> LEDs are much more rugged in use too.
>> 
>> One of my favorite features of the gas fridge at camp is the LED lights in 
>> it. They use 3x AA batteries, just have to remember to take one out when we 
>> go home or the lights stay on...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 4:35:59 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Funny how we are happy to now pay $20+ for two 100W bulbs, when the same 
>> rated incandescent bulbs would have cost maybe $1 before they were banned.
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Jun 26, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I was at Costco this afternoon and they had these LED lights you screw 
>>> into a regular bulb fixture, they have 3 parts you can adjust to aim 
>>> them to the side, down, whatever.  Pack of 2 for $20 on sale.  I had 
>>> seen these things on web adverts and they were a bit more than that, 
>>> like $11 or $13 each.  So I bought a set and put them in the garage shop 
>>> when I got home. WHOA These things are great, much more light than a 
>>> 100W bulb and you can orient them to shine on a large area.  I think I'm 
>>> going to get another set to go into these little rooms in the back of 
>>> the garage where I have other stuff.
>>> 
>>> If you are a Costco member I would strongly recommend getting some. They 
>>> are so transformative Bob is now my auntie!
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] FCPEuro

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I’m surprised that FedEx and others are better acquainted with your 
neighborhood due to all the hoi polloi that frequent it. Or is that because 
they’re up the road and you’re not?

I was just reading that some of the very rich and powerful made a side trip to 
your humble island earlier this week on their way north.

-D

> On Jun 26, 2021, at 4:23 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I left the house to go to Costco about noon, we had a brief (like 10min) 
> thundershower before I left, and it was sprinkling a bit still, nothing much, 
> the sky was clearing.
> 
> I'm about 2mile up the road and I get a text from Fedex saying my package 
> cannot be delivered due to weather delays in my area, will be delivered 
> Monday (attempt).  Seriously?  My driveway barely had the dust settled.  I 
> got back home and called Fedex, finally reached a live person who said 
> someone would check into it and call me back.
> 
> Ay yi yi, these people make me crazy.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 6/26/21 3:52 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> On Sat, Jun 26, 2021, at 8:34 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I’ve found that more often than not FCP’s free shipping gets things to me 
>>> as fast or faster than the paid option.
>> Same. Have also seen this with other vendors. I think the 5-10 days quoted 
>> on most "free" shipping options are a worst-case scenario both as a CYA for 
>> the seller and also to entice people into paying for the faster options.
>> 
>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT Pennsylvania Group

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Remulac

-D

> On Jun 26, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Lithuania
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Sat, Jun 26, 2021, 10:01 AM Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> 
>> Old country?  You mean the planet Zirkon?
>> 
>> On Sat, Jun 26, 2021 at 6:36 AM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Ah yes the Coal region  my grandfather lived in Dickson City when he came
>>> from the old country in the 1899's
>>> 
>>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jun 25, 2021, 4:51 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 
 
>>> https://www.iheart.com/content/2021-06-25-police-stop-exorcism-in-lumber-aisle-at-pennsylvania-hardware-store/
 
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Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Didn’t someone post a link to a YT video recently about a guy with a big pole 
building that replaced some high bay lighting with some LED panels? Those were 
amazing.

-D

> On Jun 26, 2021, at 4:57 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I just put in three type A LED replacement bulbs in my basement fixtures.   A 
> lot more light, and probably half the power usage.  More expensive that 
> rewiring the fixtures. but quick and easy.
> 
> I may have to clean that bench off and use it now.
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Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Say what you will, but I’ve had ClipLight Super Seal fix leaks in AC systems on 
cars here in Florida, and they’ve lasted 2-4 years or more. Only stuff I would 
consider using. That’s even for nasty ones like W140 evaporator leaks.

The other thing you have to deal with is the porosity of the original hoses, as 
they weren’t barrier style hoses. That’s the cause for the annual “top off” 
that many older systems often need.

I had a 1982 300SD I put almost 200k on over a four year period. When I got it 
I put barrier style hoses on it and completely rebuilt the system, everything 
but a new evaporator. In the four years I owned it I put exactly six ounces of 
refrigerant (R-134a) into the system, and that was more as a precaution than a 
need. It made ice cubes in the hottest weather.

-D

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 8:18 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've always been told they are a bandaid at best. Permanent repair of a leak 
> will require replacing the leaking part(s) (and even that is not really 
> permanent. All AC systems eventually leak).
> 
> That said, some products are probably better than others, and may slow or 
> stop a small leak for a while.
> 
> Allan
> 
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 8:00 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
>> What is the conventional wisdom/experience on best auto AC sealers?
>> 
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of dan penoff.com via Mercedes
>> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:09 PM
>> To: Okie Benz 
>> Cc: dan penoff.com 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend
>> 
>> I’m thinking we put a can of sealant into that system a while back. The good 
>> stuff, too.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah, last summer I put some test refrigerant in and got out the 
>>> sniffer, and no sign at all of leakage from the evap.  I should 
>>> probably test it again now, just to be sure.
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 5:53 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < 
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Glad it wasn’t the evaporator…
>>>> 
>>>> -D
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Finally got hot enough for me to decide to fix the AC in the '95 
>>>>> E300 I bought from Dan a couple years ago.  Took all of an hour, if 
>>>>> that, to get the compressor out (front seal was leaking).  After 
>>>>> removing the wiper washer fluid tank and loosening the serpentine 
>>>>> belt, I had easy access
>>>> from
>>>>> above to get all four bolts loose, remove the manifold connection, 
>>>>> and
>>>> also
>>>>> the electrical connection on top of the compressor.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And then OCD takes over, and I spent about 5 hours cleaning off the 
>>>>> compressor, carefully opening it up, carefully taking it completely 
>>>>> apart and replacing every seal and o-ring, and using the proper 
>>>>> PAG-46 oil filling it back up with oil. There was some nastiness on 
>>>>> the valve
>>>> plates,
>>>>> kind of burned looking, like maybe the compressor was run low on oil 
>>>>> or something.  If this thing dies, I'll have to spring for a new 
>>>>> compressor
>>>> I
>>>>> guess.  Rebuilt two other compressors and never saw anything like this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The nice thing about these Denso compressors, 10PA-15, is the only
>>>> special
>>>>> tool required is a belt wrench or a chain wrench to hold the clutch 
>>>>> while you loosen the front nut, and then a shaft seal sleave to 
>>>>> cover the compressor shaft splines as you press the front case back 
>>>>> on with the new shaft seal.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Popped that back in, replaced the filter/dryer, then vacuum and fill 
>>>>> the system up.  Took me about 8 hours all together, but ICE COLD AC 
>>>>> is now
>>>> back.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Only weird thing is that the recirculation function doesn't work.  
>>>>> Press the button and the light comes on while you hold the button 
>>>>> down, but as soon as you let go, the light goes out.  Not able to 
>&

Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I’m thinking we put a can of sealant into that system a while back. The good 
stuff, too.

-D

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yeah, last summer I put some test refrigerant in and got out the sniffer,
> and no sign at all of leakage from the evap.  I should probably test it
> again now, just to be sure.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 5:53 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Glad it wasn’t the evaporator…
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Finally got hot enough for me to decide to fix the AC in the '95 E300 I
>>> bought from Dan a couple years ago.  Took all of an hour, if that, to get
>>> the compressor out (front seal was leaking).  After removing the wiper
>>> washer fluid tank and loosening the serpentine belt, I had easy access
>> from
>>> above to get all four bolts loose, remove the manifold connection, and
>> also
>>> the electrical connection on top of the compressor.
>>> 
>>> And then OCD takes over, and I spent about 5 hours cleaning off the
>>> compressor, carefully opening it up, carefully taking it completely apart
>>> and replacing every seal and o-ring, and using the proper PAG-46 oil
>>> filling it back up with oil. There was some nastiness on the valve
>> plates,
>>> kind of burned looking, like maybe the compressor was run low on oil or
>>> something.  If this thing dies, I'll have to spring for a new compressor
>> I
>>> guess.  Rebuilt two other compressors and never saw anything like this.
>>> 
>>> The nice thing about these Denso compressors, 10PA-15, is the only
>> special
>>> tool required is a belt wrench or a chain wrench to hold the clutch while
>>> you loosen the front nut, and then a shaft seal sleave to cover the
>>> compressor shaft splines as you press the front case back on with the new
>>> shaft seal.
>>> 
>>> Popped that back in, replaced the filter/dryer, then vacuum and fill the
>>> system up.  Took me about 8 hours all together, but ICE COLD AC is now
>> back.
>>> 
>>> Only weird thing is that the recirculation function doesn't work.  Press
>>> the button and the light comes on while you hold the button down, but as
>>> soon as you let go, the light goes out.  Not able to troubleshoot that
>> yet,
>>> could be a bad switch I suppose or might be the PBU.
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Glad it wasn’t the evaporator…

-D

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Finally got hot enough for me to decide to fix the AC in the '95 E300 I
> bought from Dan a couple years ago.  Took all of an hour, if that, to get
> the compressor out (front seal was leaking).  After removing the wiper
> washer fluid tank and loosening the serpentine belt, I had easy access from
> above to get all four bolts loose, remove the manifold connection, and also
> the electrical connection on top of the compressor.
> 
> And then OCD takes over, and I spent about 5 hours cleaning off the
> compressor, carefully opening it up, carefully taking it completely apart
> and replacing every seal and o-ring, and using the proper PAG-46 oil
> filling it back up with oil. There was some nastiness on the valve plates,
> kind of burned looking, like maybe the compressor was run low on oil or
> something.  If this thing dies, I'll have to spring for a new compressor I
> guess.  Rebuilt two other compressors and never saw anything like this.
> 
> The nice thing about these Denso compressors, 10PA-15, is the only special
> tool required is a belt wrench or a chain wrench to hold the clutch while
> you loosen the front nut, and then a shaft seal sleave to cover the
> compressor shaft splines as you press the front case back on with the new
> shaft seal.
> 
> Popped that back in, replaced the filter/dryer, then vacuum and fill the
> system up.  Took me about 8 hours all together, but ICE COLD AC is now back.
> 
> Only weird thing is that the recirculation function doesn't work.  Press
> the button and the light comes on while you hold the button down, but as
> soon as you let go, the light goes out.  Not able to troubleshoot that yet,
> could be a bad switch I suppose or might be the PBU.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I did the glow plugs on that car, but unfortunately I used Bosch. I have 
learned since that they are suboptimal.

Kleb’s just miffed because I sold you the car and he missed out on the deal.

-D

On Jun 28, 2021, at 8:42 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Maybe I should follow your lead and buy some jalopy from Hoovie?

The AC was not working and I knew that going into the deal.

But now that you mention it, one of the glow plugs has died, so I need to do 
that job now.  Dan's son or the previous owner had just paid for that job, 
there was a receipt with the car, but I'll bet the garage that did that used 
some cheap brand of plugs.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Jun 28, 2021 6:18:36 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>:

Now the truth comes out, poos ripped you off.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:09 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

I’m thinking we put a can of sealant into that system a while back. The good 
stuff, too.

-D

On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Yeah, last summer I put some test refrigerant in and got out the sniffer,
and no sign at all of leakage from the evap.  I should probably test it
again now, just to be sure.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 5:53 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
<
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Glad it wasn’t the evaporator…

-D

On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Finally got hot enough for me to decide to fix the AC in the '95 E300 I
bought from Dan a couple years ago.  Took all of an hour, if that, to get
the compressor out (front seal was leaking).  After removing the wiper
washer fluid tank and loosening the serpentine belt, I had easy access
from
above to get all four bolts loose, remove the manifold connection, and
also
the electrical connection on top of the compressor.

And then OCD takes over, and I spent about 5 hours cleaning off the
compressor, carefully opening it up, carefully taking it completely apart
and replacing every seal and o-ring, and using the proper PAG-46 oil
filling it back up with oil. There was some nastiness on the valve
plates,
kind of burned looking, like maybe the compressor was run low on oil or
something.  If this thing dies, I'll have to spring for a new compressor
I
guess.  Rebuilt two other compressors and never saw anything like this.

The nice thing about these Denso compressors, 10PA-15, is the only
special
tool required is a belt wrench or a chain wrench to hold the clutch while
you loosen the front nut, and then a shaft seal sleave to cover the
compressor shaft splines as you press the front case back on with the new
shaft seal.

Popped that back in, replaced the filter/dryer, then vacuum and fill the
system up.  Took me about 8 hours all together, but ICE COLD AC is now
back.

Only weird thing is that the recirculation function doesn't work.  Press
the button and the light comes on while you hold the button down, but as
soon as you let go, the light goes out.  Not able to troubleshoot that
yet,
could be a bad switch I suppose or might be the PBU.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Yes, there are Sanden conversions for these.

-D

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:50 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sanden?
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 6/28/21 6:44 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> Is there a more modern compressor that fits/works with W116 and W123 cars? 
>> They use the ACDelco "upside down" compressor IIRC. RockAuto lists one by 
>> Nissens, as well as remans by ACDelco and Four Seasons.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 6:22 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I'll buy you a beer to be my AC tech.  Hell maybe a six pack.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> On 6/28/21 5:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
 Finally got hot enough for me to decide to fix the AC in the '95 E300 I
 bought from Dan a couple years ago.  Took all of an hour, if that, to get
 the compressor out (front seal was leaking).  After removing the wiper
 washer fluid tank and loosening the serpentine belt, I had easy access from
 above to get all four bolts loose, remove the manifold connection, and also
 the electrical connection on top of the compressor.
 
 And then OCD takes over, and I spent about 5 hours cleaning off the
 compressor, carefully opening it up, carefully taking it completely apart
 and replacing every seal and o-ring, and using the proper PAG-46 oil
 filling it back up with oil. There was some nastiness on the valve plates,
 kind of burned looking, like maybe the compressor was run low on oil or
 something.  If this thing dies, I'll have to spring for a new compressor I
 guess.  Rebuilt two other compressors and never saw anything like this.
 
 The nice thing about these Denso compressors, 10PA-15, is the only special
 tool required is a belt wrench or a chain wrench to hold the clutch while
 you loosen the front nut, and then a shaft seal sleave to cover the
 compressor shaft splines as you press the front case back on with the new
 shaft seal.
 
 Popped that back in, replaced the filter/dryer, then vacuum and fill the
 system up.  Took me about 8 hours all together, but ICE COLD AC is now 
 back.
 
 Only weird thing is that the recirculation function doesn't work.  Press
 the button and the light comes on while you hold the button down, but as
 soon as you let go, the light goes out.  Not able to troubleshoot that yet,
 could be a bad switch I suppose or might be the PBU.
 -
 Max
 Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I know I did a complete set and they were Bosch. Later on I was told that 
modern Bosch GPs were lacking in quality and that Beru were considered far 
better and longer lasting.

I used antiseize on them and reamed them.

-D

On Jun 28, 2021, at 8:50 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Ah, well there's been at least two glow plug jobs recently then, so that's 
good, probably won't have any stuck glow plugs.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Jun 28, 2021 8:47:38 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>:

I did the glow plugs on that car, but unfortunately I used Bosch. I have 
learned since that they are suboptimal.

Kleb’s just miffed because I sold you the car and he missed out on the deal.

-D

On Jun 28, 2021, at 8:42 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:

Maybe I should follow your lead and buy some jalopy from Hoovie?

The AC was not working and I knew that going into the deal.

But now that you mention it, one of the glow plugs has died, so I need to do 
that job now.  Dan's son or the previous owner had just paid for that job, 
there was a receipt with the car, but I'll bet the garage that did that used 
some cheap brand of plugs.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Jun 28, 2021 6:18:36 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>:

Now the truth comes out, poos ripped you off.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:09 PM, dan 
penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:

I’m thinking we put a can of sealant into that system a while back. The good 
stuff, too.

-D

On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:

Yeah, last summer I put some test refrigerant in and got out the sniffer,
and no sign at all of leakage from the evap.  I should probably test it
again now, just to be sure.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 5:53 PM dan 
penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 wrote:

Glad it wasn’t the evaporator…

-D

On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 wrote:

Finally got hot enough for me to decide to fix the AC in the '95 E300 I
bought from Dan a couple years ago.  Took all of an hour, if that, to get
the compressor out (front seal was leaking).  After removing the wiper
washer fluid tank and loosening the serpentine belt, I had easy access
from
above to get all four bolts loose, remove the manifold connection, and
also
the electrical connection on top of the compressor.

And then OCD takes over, and I spent about 5 hours cleaning off the
compressor, carefully opening it up, carefully taking it completely apart
and replacing every seal and o-ring, and using the proper PAG-46 oil
filling it back up with oil. There was some nastiness on the valve
plates,
kind of burned looking, like maybe the compressor was run low on oil or
something.  If this thing dies, I'll have to spring for a new compressor
I
guess.  Rebuilt two other compressors and never saw anything like this.

The nice thing about these Denso compressors, 10PA-15, is the only
special
tool required is a belt wrench or a chain wrench to hold the clutch while
you loosen the front nut, and then a shaft seal sleave to cover the
compressor shaft splines as you press the front case back on with the new
shaft seal.

Popped that back in, replaced the filter/dryer, then vacuum and fill the
system up.  Took me about 8 hours all together, but ICE COLD AC is now
back.

Only weird thing is that the recirculation function doesn't work.  Press
the button and the light comes on while you hold the button down, but as
soon as you let go, the light goes out.  Not able to troubleshoot that
yet,
could be a bad switch I suppose or might be the PBU.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Copart

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

The way the used market is these days that’s no surprise. I just read an 
article about how dealers are even trolling FB and CL for cars to buy and 
resell.

-D

> On Jun 26, 2021, at 9:43 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Copart has now changed their membership to require a annual fee of something 
> like $59 per year.  They dropped mine down to the new free version which I 
> guess lets you search cars but you can't have saved searched, or bid on 
> anything of course.  I guess I am done with Copart now.  It has probably been 
> at least a year since anything has been selling for anything remotely 
> reasonable.  If things were normal and you could still find decent deals 
> there I might consider paying the $59, but not now.
> 
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[MBZ] This Is Really Nice

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

It’s a rare day when you see something on PeachParts that isn’t a steaming pile 
of junk. This is actually pretty nice, and the price isn’t ridiculous 
considering the condition and what it is:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-benz-cars-sale/411459-1970-mercedes-300sel-sedan-excellent-sale-300-sel-v-8-new-air-suspension-fs.html

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Mine are primarily GEs from Lowe’s. I have some big globes I used to replace 
similar incandescents in our guest bath. Big and clunky, but put out more light 
and far, far less heat. They’re now used in a new fixture that inverts them, so 
it will be interesting to see how that might affect them.

One place I’ve found LEDs to be significantly better is in the underside light 
on my microwave. On microwaves that are mounted over a stove the work lights 
they offer are typically 40W “appliance” bulbs that are really weak when it 
comes to illumination. I bought a “corncob” style 40W equivalent for our new 
microwave, and it makes a major difference on the amount of light that shines 
on the stove top.

-D

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 1:27 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The best ones I've had are some "corn cob" bulbs I bought on Amazon a few 
> years ago. They came in unlabeled packaging so don't know what brand they 
> are. I have them in outside fixtures and so far they have held up. I don't 
> buy from Amazon anymore and have not been able to find those elsewhere 
> locally, or I would have them in the garage as well.
> 
> Indoor bulbs I have bought from Lowes. GE or Feit are the brands I've seen. 
> Just had to replace one in the laundry room the other day as it had developed 
> a strobe-light like flicker.
> 
> Bathroom has clear glass globe lights, I recently bought some GE LEDs to 
> replace those ($16 for 4 bulbs). They look more like incandescents, the LEDs 
> are in thin thread-like arrangements that look more like indandescent 
> filaments. We'll see how those hold up. They do kick off MUCH less heat than 
> the incandescent bulbs, which is something.
> 
> Allan
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 1:17 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Maybe it’s the quality of the lamps you’re buying?
>> 
>> I buy only name brand, like GE, and I’ve got a house full of them that are 
>> at least a couple years old or more. Have yet to replace one.
>> 
>> I did have to replace one in an outside fixture, but it’s on roughly 8-12 
>> hours a day and it’s in an inverted position, which I suspect might have 
>> something to do with the failure, not to mention the temperature and climate 
>> extremes it’s exposed to.
>> 
>> I gladly use LEDs over CFLs, as I hate having to wait for them to “warm up”.
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Re: [MBZ] Oh Dan

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Cut the deal with the seller and I’ll go pick it up and park it at my place. 
You can crash here and enjoy the pool if you like, too.

-D

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:58 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dang I would be all over that. In fact maybe I should have poos pick it up 
> for me and I fly down to get it. 
> 
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>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 2:55 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Could be. That many electrical issues would suggest fuses. Not a bad 
>> looking car. Kleb says the E430s are quite sprightly!
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:50 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Says the wipers don't work. Fuse? Rain sensor?
>>> 
>>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/tampa-2001-mercedes-e430-for-sale/7343395475.html
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Oh Dan

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There are as many as three fuse blocks in these cars. Stuff breaks and then 
people have no idea where to find the fuses.

-D

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 4:01 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> IMO wipers and headlights are critical safety devices and should be fused 
> individually with no other loads on the circuit, and direct switching (maybe 
> via a relay but nothing electronic on a common bus). I had a Dodge minivan 
> with an electrical issue where ALL the accessories (wipers included) would 
> cut out randomly, and it put me in a dangerous situation more than once.
> 
> Allan
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 3:55 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Could be. That many electrical issues would suggest fuses. Not a bad looking 
>> car. Kleb says the E430s are quite sprightly!
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:50 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Says the wipers don't work. Fuse? Rain sensor?
>>> 
>>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/tampa-2001-mercedes-e430-for-sale/7343395475.html
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Oh Dan

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Could be. That many electrical issues would suggest fuses. Not a bad looking 
car. Kleb says the E430s are quite sprightly!

-D

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:50 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Says the wipers don't work. Fuse? Rain sensor?
> 
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/tampa-2001-mercedes-e430-for-sale/7343395475.html
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Re: [MBZ] This Is Really Nice

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Hmm, don’t know but I don’t think so. Jaime would know for sure. These are so 
more refined looking with the color-keyed wheel covers.

-D

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>  wrote:
> 
> That is nice. For some reason I don't think the Bundt wheels look right on 
> that car. Was that original?
> 
> Allan
> 
>> On Sun, Jun 27, 2021, at 7:55 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> It’s a rare day when you see something on PeachParts that isn’t a steaming 
>> pile of junk. This is actually pretty nice, and the price isn’t ridiculous 
>> considering the condition and what it is:
>> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-benz-cars-sale/411459-1970-mercedes-300sel-sedan-excellent-sale-300-sel-v-8-new-air-suspension-fs.html
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Okie shop flooded

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Probably, and then you wouldn’t have an open ditch to deal with.

-D

> On Jul 11, 2021, at 10:14 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You think that would be better than just cutting a drainage ditch to let it 
> drain?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jul 11, 2021, at 9:05 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Get a roll of drain tubing and rent a Ditch Witch for a day. Run a drain 
>> tile from that area out to the road or to the pond.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jul 11, 2021, at 10:02 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was talking the neighbor the other day and he said he didn’t understand 
>>> why they didn’t build the pond in that area behind the shop where all the 
>>> water runs too instead of at the opposite end of the property. I should 
>>> look into building another one. I wonder how much that costs. 
>>> 
>>> The levees themselves are fine. It’s just the water that runs off the roof 
>>> of the shop collects between the shop and the levee and gets up to the 
>>> level of the concrete pad then starts coming in. I went back out last night 
>>> and the water is all run out for the most part. Will air it out today. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 11, 2021, at 8:56 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hope you get that figured out, sounds pretty miserable.  Are you allowed 
>>>> to
>>>> dig out a big pond / drainage area?  I'd think about that, create a nice
>>>> big pond, and then all that dirt that is dug out can be used to build up
>>>> your levees and such to keep water out of the shop.  May need to use some
>>>> ancient Egyptian technology to get your elevations correct.
>>>> 
>>>> Not a solution to flooding, but have you thought about pouring a concrete
>>>> floor in the shop?
>>>> -
>>>> Max
>>>> Charleston SC
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 7:31 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Went out to the shop just now and it’s got an inch or 2 of water in it. On
>>>>> the back side of the shop there is an overhead door that I never use. In
>>>>> the pasture behind that the water from the back average drains in that 
>>>>> area
>>>>> toward the road. There is some dirt work done next to the shop, basically
>>>>> they built a small levee behind the barn and shop to direct water toward
>>>>> the road instead of in the shop. The problem is there is a space about 5
>>>>> feet wide between the backside of this and the shop that water will pond
>>>>> and if it gets up to the door will come in. I have not seen it this bad
>>>>> before but I have been meaning to see if I can get an angle blade for the
>>>>> tractor and cut a ditch at the end of the shop to let this water drain out
>>>>> toward the road instead of getting deep enough to get into the shop. The
>>>>> closed overhead door on the opposite wall was holding water in so I 
>>>>> cracked
>>>>> it open to allow it just flow out the other side. I need to solve this
>>>>> problem ASAP so this does not continue to happen.  Water also runs thru 
>>>>> the
>>>>> barn which I would like to stop. It also has this levee behind and to the
>>>>> high side of the barn but still gets water thru it. I think it’s runoff
>>>>> from the roof. For that I’m probably going to need to haul in some dirt to
>>>>> build up the level of the dirt floor inside the shop so water does not 
>>>>> come
>>>>> in. After it does, it’s literally a mud pit in there.
>>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Okie shop flooded

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It would be, only they would be “Okie drains”.



-D

> On Jul 11, 2021, at 1:53 PM, greg via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> My house in the PNW has "French Drains" which prevent my garage from
> flooding. What you are describing sounds like basically the same thing.
> 
> 
> 
>> Yeah dig a trench around the perimeter of the building, put in some
>> gravel then a drain pipe with gravel over, then connect it to a drain
>> going out to your retention pond or ditch or whatever.  Kind of a
>> reverse septic field.  You want to get the water from around the
>> building.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Okie shop flooded

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Get a roll of drain tubing and rent a Ditch Witch for a day. Run a drain tile 
from that area out to the road or to the pond.

-D

> On Jul 11, 2021, at 10:02 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was talking the neighbor the other day and he said he didn’t understand why 
> they didn’t build the pond in that area behind the shop where all the water 
> runs too instead of at the opposite end of the property. I should look into 
> building another one. I wonder how much that costs. 
> 
> The levees themselves are fine. It’s just the water that runs off the roof of 
> the shop collects between the shop and the levee and gets up to the level of 
> the concrete pad then starts coming in. I went back out last night and the 
> water is all run out for the most part. Will air it out today. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 11, 2021, at 8:56 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hope you get that figured out, sounds pretty miserable.  Are you allowed to
>> dig out a big pond / drainage area?  I'd think about that, create a nice
>> big pond, and then all that dirt that is dug out can be used to build up
>> your levees and such to keep water out of the shop.  May need to use some
>> ancient Egyptian technology to get your elevations correct.
>> 
>> Not a solution to flooding, but have you thought about pouring a concrete
>> floor in the shop?
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 7:31 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Went out to the shop just now and it’s got an inch or 2 of water in it. On
>>> the back side of the shop there is an overhead door that I never use. In
>>> the pasture behind that the water from the back average drains in that area
>>> toward the road. There is some dirt work done next to the shop, basically
>>> they built a small levee behind the barn and shop to direct water toward
>>> the road instead of in the shop. The problem is there is a space about 5
>>> feet wide between the backside of this and the shop that water will pond
>>> and if it gets up to the door will come in. I have not seen it this bad
>>> before but I have been meaning to see if I can get an angle blade for the
>>> tractor and cut a ditch at the end of the shop to let this water drain out
>>> toward the road instead of getting deep enough to get into the shop. The
>>> closed overhead door on the opposite wall was holding water in so I cracked
>>> it open to allow it just flow out the other side. I need to solve this
>>> problem ASAP so this does not continue to happen.  Water also runs thru the
>>> barn which I would like to stop. It also has this levee behind and to the
>>> high side of the barn but still gets water thru it. I think it’s runoff
>>> from the roof. For that I’m probably going to need to haul in some dirt to
>>> build up the level of the dirt floor inside the shop so water does not come
>>> in. After it does, it’s literally a mud pit in there.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Quick Flip For Dan?

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Probably a tweaker. No thanks.

-D

> On Jul 12, 2021, at 2:23 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
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> 
> And I do mean quick. A V8 in that car should scoot pretty well.
> 
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/dade-city-benz-priced-to-move-fast/7349728447.html
> 
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[MBZ] Nice 1987 300TD

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Nice 300TD. Looks like someone might get a deal.

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rMLBmL7G/1987-mercedes-benz-300td

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Re: [MBZ] W116 rear window seal

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Readily available from any dealer for a little over $100. Don’t use URO!!! OE 
rubber is the only way to go.

I would find and pay a competent mobile glass guy in your area to do the work. 
These can be notoriously difficult to do, and they’re easy to crack as they’re 
often laminated glass if there is a rear window defogger. It might take some 
calling around on your part, but there’s someone in your area that will do this 
for you. Finding a replacement would not be fun, and it would likely be 
expensive.

-D

> On Jul 12, 2021, at 7:11 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Classic center?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 10, 2021, at 6:46 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> With all the rain lately I've noticed the rear window seal is leaking in 
>> the 300SD.
>> 
>> I see Autohauz has the URO seal. FCP Euro lists nothing. Any other options I 
>> should consider?
>> 
>> https://www.autohausaz.com/pn/1166700039
>> 
>> A bit nervous to contemplate removing the window glass. If I break it are 
>> there any sources for replacement other than finding glass at a junkyard?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W116 rear window seal

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Just use the part number.

-D

> On Jul 12, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hmm. When I try to choose my vehicle, the first stumbling block is that the 
> "Year" selector only goes back to 1984.
> 
> Allan
> 
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021, at 1:29 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>> This dealer has the best discount. 26 percent.
>> 
>> https://www.mbdirectparts.com/
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Allan Streib via 
>> Mercedes 
>> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 12:21 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Cc: Allan Streib
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W116 rear window seal
>> 
>> No dealer here. Is there an online one you like?
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021, at 7:31 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Readily available from any dealer for a little over $100. Don’t use URO!!! 
>>> OE rubber is the only way to go.
>>> 
>>> I would find and pay a competent mobile glass guy in your area to do the 
>>> work. These can be notoriously difficult to do, and they’re easy to crack 
>>> as they’re often laminated glass if there is a rear window defogger. It 
>>> might take some calling around on your part, but there’s someone in your 
>>> area that will do this for you. Finding a replacement would not be fun, and 
>>> it would likely be expensive.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 12, 2021, at 7:11 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Classic center?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 10, 2021, at 6:46 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> With all the rain lately I've noticed the rear window seal is leaking in 
>>>>> the 300SD.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I see Autohauz has the URO seal. FCP Euro lists nothing. Any other 
>>>>> options I should consider?
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.autohausaz.com/pn/1166700039
>>>>> 
>>>>> A bit nervous to contemplate removing the window glass. If I break it are 
>>>>> there any sources for replacement other than finding glass at a junkyard?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Allan
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1990 560SEL - 190k miles, no reverse - $3,000

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A Sun Valley rebuild is only $1750 exchange. That’s not bad. Get the car for 
$1500, drop about $2500-$3000 for the transmission and R and you’ve got a 
560SEL for under $5k.

-D

> On Jul 12, 2021, at 5:57 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> "Price is negotiable..." 
> 
> ...hopefully by a lot to make this worth fixing.
> 
> https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/columbus-1990-mercedes-benz-560-sel/7350070021.html
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Re: [MBZ] 1964 220SE 4-speed

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If the car is original and in good condition $40k-$50k would not be 
unrealistic. I didn’t look that closely at it, but if it has been repainted and 
not a “correct” MB color for the vintage, that would take away from the value.

That being said, restorable parts cars like this that are drivable are bringing 
in the teens on a good day. Beaters in the 20s.

I suspect the ask is not being shown because he’s afraid it will put people off.

-D

> On Jul 6, 2021, at 1:20 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Jul 6, 2021, at 12:02 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>> Anyone have sales prices for this model over the past 5 years?  More than 
>> $1, I wager.
> 
> Just eyballing BaT it looks like they have sold for or been bid to high teens 
> to low 30s. I guess that might be the high end of the market given the 
> bidding fevers that break out there.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] It Was White

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Love the overspray on the door latch.

-D

> On Jul 6, 2021, at 1:51 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
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> 
> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/orlando-1994-e320-mercedes/7347008335.html
> 
> https://www.lastvin.com/vin/az1nGEyXv1gdxv67l
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Re: [MBZ] W123 transmission pan bolts torque

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No sealant. There is a rubber seal that is used that seals perfectly without 
sealant. The pan has places formed into the edges that make it seal properly 
and will distort if you overtighten. A common misstep by many, which causes the 
pan to leak.

-D

> On Jul 6, 2021, at 11:36 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
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> 
> Do you normally use some form of sealant on the pan to transmission surfaces 
> as well? Or locktite? 7 or 8 Nm sounds sort of like not much more than finger 
> tight.
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
> On 05/07/2021 5:40 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
>> 8 Nm with cork gasket, 7 Nm with rubber gasket
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via Mercedes
>> Sent: Monday, July 5, 2021 6:11 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Allan Streib 
>> Subject: [MBZ] W123 transmission pan bolts torque
>> 
>> Anyone know the tightening torque for a W123 transmission pan? I know it's
>> important to not overtighten and warp the pan. I'm thinking something like
>> 8-10 lb-ft?
>> 
>> Allan
> 
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Re: [MBZ] UV protection?

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

303 Protectant.

-D

> On Jul 6, 2021, at 11:38 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Any of you folks have a good recommendation for a product that will protect 
> vinyl upholstery? I am thinking of our boat rather than the road vehicles.
> 
> Lots of different stuff out there but is any of it any good?
> 
> Randy
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Re: [MBZ] UV protection?

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I’ve used it for years. Very popular in the boating community, used to be the 
only place you could find it was in boating stores like West Marine.

-D

> On Jul 6, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
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> 
> I know that was supposed to be the go-to product when everyone started saying 
> not to use Armor-all.
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
> On 06/07/2021 10:41 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> 303 Protectant.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jul 6, 2021, at 11:38 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Any of you folks have a good recommendation for a product that will protect 
>>> vinyl upholstery? I am thinking of our boat rather than the road vehicles.
>>> 
>>> Lots of different stuff out there but is any of it any good?
>>> 
>>> Randy
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W123 transmission pan bolts torque

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I think it’s more like 10 nm.

-D

> On Jul 5, 2021, at 6:10 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Anyone know the tightening torque for a W123 transmission pan? I know it's 
> important to not overtighten and warp the pan. I'm thinking something like 
> 8-10 lb-ft?
> 
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[MBZ] Another One with a Little Stain on the Driver's Seat

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https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/clearwater-2004-mercedes-benz-s600-83k/7346723758.html

-D
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Re: [MBZ] 1995 E320 Cabriolet - 57k miles - $28,900

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Dude, that’s in Oak Park. Think old money north Meridian Street in Indy.

-D

> On Jul 6, 2021, at 7:11 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
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> 
> Must be nice when you can afford a $4,000 fridge in the garage
> 
> https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/chicago-1995-mercedez-benz-e320/7347134686.html
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Re: [MBZ] Beater E320 - 207k miles - $1,900

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For $1500 it would be a decent deal based on the description and pictures.

-D

> On Jul 6, 2021, at 6:59 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Some issues but doesn't look half bad really.
> 
> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/greenwood-2001-mercedes-benz-e320/7347129532.html
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Re: [MBZ] 2004 Crossfire Manny - 47k miles - $9,995

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This is true. Essentially an SLK chassis with a Chrysler designed body. I’ve 
worked on a few, they’re actually quite nice despite being a Chrysler product 
on a Mercedes chassis.

-D

> On Jul 9, 2021, at 2:18 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Those are basically a SLK but probably with some cheaper components 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 9, 2021, at 1:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Easy to imagine this becoming a cult classic pretty soon
>> 
>>> On Fri, Jul 9, 2021 at 1:00 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Kinda on topic I guess. Never liked the look of these, but that is usually
>>> the case for me with Chrysler styling.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/d/bloomington-2004-chrysler-crossfire/7348073809.html
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Re: [MBZ] I Hate When That Happens

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Ouch. Sucks getting old, doesn’t it? Could be worse, like a knee or hip 
replacement.

Just had my 10 year colonoscopy and they found a “pre-cancerous” polyp. So now 
I’m on for every three years, Fun, but better than pushing up daisies.

-D

> On Jul 9, 2021, at 4:20 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
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> 
> Went to the Ortho Doc. Need rotator cuff surgery.
> Big fun.
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