Re: [MBZ] Climate Control Failure Mode
Jim, On your website you mention that full heat all the time regardless of temp. settings, buttons pushed or vehicle speed could be a symptom of monovalve failure. I've been expereiencing this for the past two months and was wondering what else it might be. I was under the imporession that a failed monovalve would provide heat at idle gradually cooling as the vehicle picke up speed. History - four years or so ago I replaced the monovalve insert and the foam tube behind the dash. Thank You, Fred Johnson Chicago 1977 240D 1983 300SD 1991 A-R 164L 1996 Civic Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Replace the smoke in your wires
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[MBZ] 126 Hazard Switch
Not that I've had to use it, but I cannot get the hazard lught function on my 83 300SD to function. I've tried two switches and checked, replaced fuses with no effect. Turn the switch on and nothing, and no turn indicators. With the swicth in the off position turn indicators work fine. Definitely not the same set-up as the 123. Anybody have word of wisdom or guidance? Thanks, Fred Johnson Chicago 1977 240D 1983 300SD 1991 A/R 164L 1996 Civic Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] climate control
Douglas, By this time you may have already found your issue but here's my $.02. First do you get heat at freeway speeds? What's the ambient temp. where you live? I ask because of my past experience. When I bought my first SD it had a torn monovalve diaphram AND the foam connecting tube from HVAC fan to the cabin temp. sensor in the middle of the dash was mostly non-existant. This allowed me to get heat only when the car was stopped or at low speed. When I did get heat it was at full blast. As the car sped up the heat would fade but fan speed was still maxed. I fixed the monovalve insert as this is a common malady. I then got full heat almost all the time, this was in Oct./Nov. Finally pulled the glove box and center vents to get to the gooey foam tube. Replaced it with foam pipe insulation and that fixed the problem. Takes some manoeuvering through smallish openings and is messy though. Monovalve was definitely the easier job that I would do first. I would recommend gloves and also cover anything in old towels that you do not want to get black goo on if you attack the insulation tube that connects the cabin temp. sensor to the fan motor. Fred Johnson 1977 240D 1983 300SD 1991 A/R 164L 1996 Civic __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: would you buy a rental car?
My family bought a 78 Mercury Zephyr from Hertz many years ago. Lasted 10 years 100k miles w/no problems. Got me through college. Would do it again through a rental car company or through CarMax or the like as cars come off lease. Fred Johnson 1977 240D 1983 300SD 1991 A/R 164 1996 Civic --- Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couple of people I know have been happy with cars they bought from Enterprise. I've also heard horror stories about the things people do to rental cars. Any opinions? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 300SD Fuel Line
In replacing my rear breake line I also found several leaks in the fuel lines where the rubber buffers are. The buffers are great places for dirt and water to be held in place to corrode these lines over time. For the past month I've been seraching out fuel lines. Mercedes no longer makes them. None but one dealership in the area had any idea on how to proceed. This morning I spoke to a tech who said I'm not working with a lot of pressure in the lines because the fuel pump is on the engine not the fuel tank, so I should be able to cut out the corroded sections and replace with fuel hose. What is the lists collective wisdom on this? It would be a lot easier than hunting down the correct size line and bending to fit. And so far I've run into dead end after dead end to finf replacement line. The good news (OT), I replaced the steering rack bushing on the Alfa last weekend. Now steers as sharply as I thought it should. Fred Johnson Chicago 1977 240D 1983 300SD 1991 A/R 164L 1996 Civic Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD Fuel Line
Gentlemen, thank you as always for your sage adivice. Tom, where would I be able to buy Oetiker clamps? Thanks, Fred --- Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might also consider getting a 25' roll of copper tubing, it's easier to hand form. Diesel eats copper. Don't do this. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD Fuel Line
I would be able to replace the complete line with Nylon 6 tubing if I follow your logic. I'd prefer this to patching. --- dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need a somewhat rigid tubing to hold up to the vacuum created by the lift pump on the engine. I've had good luck with Nylon-6 tubing from Mcmaster.com . I use a more flexible tubing to join the nylon to the existing metal in a butt-joint by covering both pieces and using spring clamps. I prefer spring clamps because they apply constant pressure as the metal tubing expands and contracts, and as the softer tubing deforms over time. When I've used worm-gear hose clamps, I've had to go back and tighten them up every year or so. If you don't overlap, use compression fittings. -Dave Walton On 9/26/07, Fred Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In replacing my rear breake line I also found several leaks in the fuel lines where the rubber buffers are. The buffers are great places for dirt and water to be held in place to corrode these lines over time. For the past month I've been seraching out fuel lines. Mercedes no longer makes them. None but one dealership in the area had any idea on how to proceed. This morning I spoke to a tech who said I'm not working with a lot of pressure in the lines because the fuel pump is on the engine not the fuel tank, so I should be able to cut out the corroded sections and replace with fuel hose. What is the lists collective wisdom on this? It would be a lot easier than hunting down the correct size line and bending to fit. And so far I've run into dead end after dead end to finf replacement line. The good news (OT), I replaced the steering rack bushing on the Alfa last weekend. Now steers as sharply as I thought it should. Fred Johnson Chicago 1977 240D 1983 300SD 1991 A/R 164L 1996 Civic Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300SD Fuel Line
Dave, I pass by a Harbor Freight on the way home and will look tonight. I was also thinking about the overlap thing. While I don't do WVO, I do get free 3-5 gallon pails of vegetable oil occasionally, food service business. I add a gallon or two at each fill up to stretch the $3.20/gal. diesel. It's enough to leave a nice aroma and it's free. Fred --- dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You still have to do something with the ends. You can order nylon that will fit snugly inside the existing flexible tubing at the gas tank and lift pump - the same way the current metal tubing does. I use a larger size tubing and did the overlap thing with the existing hose, rather than fit inside it. I'm running on WVO and the larger tubing helps the thicker liquid flow better. I have found the Harbor Freight digital caliper to be helpful when measuring for tubing size: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=47257 The 6 is on sale for $16 online. If you print the page and show it to the local store, they will match the price. -Dave Walton On 9/26/07, Fred Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would be able to replace the complete line with Nylon 6 tubing if I follow your logic. I'd prefer this to patching. --- dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need a somewhat rigid tubing to hold up to the vacuum created by the lift pump on the engine. I've had good luck with Nylon-6 tubing from Mcmaster.com . I use a more flexible tubing to join the nylon to the existing metal in a butt-joint by covering both pieces and using spring clamps. I prefer spring clamps because they apply constant pressure as the metal tubing expands and contracts, and as the softer tubing deforms over time. When I've used worm-gear hose clamps, I've had to go back and tighten them up every year or so. If you don't overlap, use compression fittings. -Dave Walton On 9/26/07, Fred Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In replacing my rear breake line I also found several leaks in the fuel lines where the rubber buffers are. The buffers are great places for dirt and water to be held in place to corrode these lines over time. For the past month I've been seraching out fuel lines. Mercedes no longer makes them. None but one dealership in the area had any idea on how to proceed. This morning I spoke to a tech who said I'm not working with a lot of pressure in the lines because the fuel pump is on the engine not the fuel tank, so I should be able to cut out the corroded sections and replace with fuel hose. What is the lists collective wisdom on this? It would be a lot easier than hunting down the correct size line and bending to fit. And so far I've run into dead end after dead end to finf replacement line. The good news (OT), I replaced the steering rack bushing on the Alfa last weekend. Now steers as sharply as I thought it should. Fred Johnson Chicago 1977 240D 1983 300SD 1991 A/R 164L 1996 Civic Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fuel Line Sourcing
In replacing the rear brake line on the SD I've also found out that I have a leaking fuel line. Does anybody have a source for the hard fuel lines that run from the tank to the front of the car besides the dealer? I'll visit one of the local MB dealers at lunch to see what their availability and price is. Fred Johnson Chicago 1977 240D 1981 300SD 1991 A/R 164L 1996 Civic Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Brake line removal acrobatics
Still working on the blown out rear brake line on my 300SD. As a precaution I looked over the lines on my other vehicles and they look as good as new, even the 240D!!! Continues to confirm my suspicions that the SD was not the best looked after or maintained vehicle. Does anybody out there have any experience removing brake lines from these vehicles w/out bending or otherwise disfiguring the lines? I've removed all of the brackets that support the rear brake lines and fuel lines (the acrobatics part). Disconnected the line at the M/C and at the rear. The line is hanging free. I am now looking for the magic way to manoeuver the vehicle and brake line in order to remove the line. Thanks, Fred Johnson 1977 240D 1983 300SD 1991 A/R 164L 1996 Civic Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Brake lines adjunct (Strange Days)
BTW I do have some nice Craftsmen made in USA flare wrenches ;-) As you all know one of the brake lines split on the SD on Friday. Car is still waiting for my time. Yesterday leaving work the check engine light came on in the Civic. Car was semi-driveable as I had no warm idle. So that car is in the shop waiting for a cat. converter and O2 sensor. What am I left driving that has a/c.? The old reliable Alfa (!?). The car that has not let me down in 3 years of ownership. Someone cue the music and Rod Serling!! Fred Johnson Chicago 1977 240D 1983 300SD 1991 A/R 164L 1996 Civic Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Brake Lines
Does anyone have any experience buying pre formed hard brake lines or bending their own? Couldn't find them on Rusty's site. Had an experience driving home from work yesterday in the SD wherein I'll have to replace one of the hard brake lines for the front brakes. Thanks, Fred Johnson Chicago 1977 240D 1983 300SD 1991 A/R 164L 1996 Civic Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines
Dan and Rich, thanks for your motivation. Will have to go out to the NAPA and get started. Fred --- Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can get the tube at the auto parts store, and the fittings (make sure you put them on before you do the flare!) and the flaring and bending tools, which aren't much money (or the auto parts store might let you borrow them). It is not hard to do if you just don't bend too far or too fast. I have made up lines before, the hardest part is not cutting it too short! --R Fred Johnson wrote: Does anyone have any experience buying pre formed hard brake lines or bending their own? Couldn't find them on Rusty's site. Had an experience driving home from work yesterday in the SD wherein I'll have to replace one of the hard brake lines for the front brakes. Thanks, Fred Johnson Chicago 1977 240D 1983 300SD 1991 A/R 164L 1996 Civic Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bad glow plugs
As others have said, something is not quite right. I replaced the glow plugs in my 240D after ~100k miles. These were because of a bad relay. The SD is still going strong on the plugs that came with the car 100+k miles ago. Fred Johnson Chicago 1977 240D 1983 300SD 1991 A/R 164L 1996 Civic --- BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just got back from my Indy. Three of the five new glow plugs I had installed a few months ago were bad. Two would not heat at all, two were fine, and one got warm. He replaced all five just in case. Is this something that happens very often? The ones I had in there before lasted quite awhile. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 291k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Sun Roof RR
The sunroof on the SD is making a groaning sound when I hit the button to open. Will have to manually open through the trunk and do some maintenance. Does anybody on the list have a good write up on cleaning and lubricating the rails and anything else that might need atttention after 26 years? Thanks, Fred Johnson 1977 240D 1983 300SD 1991 AR 164L 1996 Civic Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL
Re: [MBZ] Sun Roof RR
I've heard about the famous paste. I think Rusty sells them in small tubes. I think I have more of a dilemna. Will look over my 123 paper manuals to see how much is transferable to a 126. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Crankshaft Balancer Bolts
Guys, thanks for all the suggestions. The cardboard is an excellent idea. The last time I did this ~5 years ago I remember using a toothbrush with brake cleaner to clean the head of the bolts then using heavy duty gloves because of the dirt oil/grease mess and the proximity to the radiator. I've thought about getting a radiator comb several times but would probably spend way too many hours with my new toy getting the fins on all the vehicles just right. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] dexron III/mercon to Mobil 1 ATF transition
Ditto on the better shifting in the morning in the SD, although I still need to replace the K2(?) spring with an assembly that I bought a year ago. Been running it in both MB's for ~100k miles w/30k change intervals. Gives me more peace of mind than anything else in the 240D as I roar down the highway and the trans is spinning away. Fred Johnson Chicago 1977 240D 1983 300SD 1996 Civic 1991 A-R 164L Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/
Re: [MBZ] Nailing
Does anyone know what model of Racor filter set up to purchase? Anyone recently install a Racor filter? I've had this issue with my 240D since I purchased it 8 1/2 years ago. 120k miles and a new set of injectors three years ago have not changed a thing. TIA Fred Johnson Chicago 1977 240D 1983 300SD 1991 A-R 164L 1996 Civic --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on 120K miles in my '78 300D from new, nailing (rat-a-tat) sounds were caused by bad spray patterns which were caused (for one thing) by water passing through the nozzles and deforming the holes. It's not necessarily a steady sound but more random and very annoying. That's why my car had thirteen warranty injector replacements in 50K miles after which I installed a Racor water separator which completely ended the problem until I sold the car at 120K miles. There will now be posted several stuff and nonsense rebuttals to this and my reply will be that my post is based on personal hands-on experience. BTW, as I recall when my car was around, the injector pop-off pressure was 1750psi for the 300D whereas the 300SD was 2150psi, according to my dealer. And I recall that the turbo version was a much more even and slightly quieter combustion sound. I do know that any reasonably experienced diesel driver can tell the difference blindfolded. RLE Sponsored Link Rates near 39yr lows. $510,000 Loan for $1698/mo. Calcuate new payment. www.LowerMyBills.com/lre
Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D vs. 300SD?
Ditto on what Jeff and others have said about the differences. I prefer the 123 though. I prefer the smaller size and the feeling of driving the car versus riding along. For me the 126 makes a great vacation/highway cruiser. In most other situations I find it a little large and unwieldy and drive the 123, Civic or Alfa. Systems wise I prefer the manual heating/AC controls versus the ACC on the 126. Power locks, seats and windows are just something else that can go wrong. I am the only person that drives my vehicles so I've set the seat once. Back and forth from work, it's the 240D. 700 mile roundtrip to Des Moines, or up to Wisc somewhere then it's the 300SD...and if I'm really feeling lucky,the Alfa. Fred Johnson Chicago 1977 240D 1981 300SD 1991 A/R 164L 1996 Civic --- Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ahhh, the dfferences are many and varied. The S class is a much better drive. Quieter and more relaxed, especially on the highway! Between the two, I'd take the S any day! No comparison!! I've had both and the 123 is not in the same league as the 126. (Obviously) Jeff Zedic Toronto ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com We have the perfect Group for you. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups (http://groups.yahoo.com)
Re: [MBZ] Paint Link? Was Food Fight
http://www.towerpaint.com/ Have ordered paint for both MB's. Was reccomended by Marshall Booth some years ago. Fred Johnson 1977 240D 1983 300SD 1996 Civic 1991 A-R 164L Peter T. Arnold wrote: About twenty posts on food, no reply to the request for a link to buy German Auto paint. I see nothing has changed here.. Carnivores have a name for vegetarians, LUNCH! -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 1987 300SDL 252KMI 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 196Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 83 300SD Light Tube Question
I'm ordering a light tube from Rusty for the left most center console switch on my 83 300SD but have forgotten whether that is the switch for the sun roof or the rear dome light. Cam someone with a better memory or an SD at their disposal help me out? Thanks, Fred Johnson Chicago 1977 240D 1983 300SD __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] ACC Issues with 300SD
Tried this last night and determined it is the ignition switch. A huge relief it isn't the ACC unit. Fred --- Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Disconnect (and plug) the vacuum hose to the IP shutoff pod. Then turn off the car (which will stay running) and turn it back on. Is the ACC fine then? That would indicate that the ignition switch is going bad, if the trip to the Start position is what makes the ACC crap out. One can also try teasing the key to see if you can make the ACC symptoms change, but I like the vacuum hose trick, which gives you full mobility to play with on the switch. The alternative diagnosis is that the motion and vibration of the moving vehicle is what's taking out the ACC, which might point towards bad solder joints inside the pushbutton array, of which I have had plenty. That repair, at least, is cheap. If you are handy and can solder. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Hard Starting 240D
Thanks for everyones help. The consensus seems to be glow plugs first. Didn't know that glow plugs degraded. Therefore I'm off to the local big box store to get a hair dryer. I'll point it down the intake tract tomorrow morning and see if there's a marked difference. If there's a difference in starting then it's time to convert. I've been putting off converting to the pin style plugs. The 300SD has them and starts to well below 0F so there hasn't been a need to convert the older 240D. I'm currently taking my time doing a valve gasket replacement, valve adjustment and general block de-oiling of the 300SD. Ergo the reluctant starting on the 240D is receiving my attention. Question about the hot air trick - does a hot air gun put out too much heat? I'd hate to fire up any oil or other goop in the intake tract that the valve cover breather throws in there. Thanks, Fred Johnson 1977 240D 1983 300SD __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Hard Starting 240D
Don't waste your money on a hair dryer. Running hot air down the intake WON'T tell you if the glow plugs are insufficient! Even when the engine is hot and it's, 90 degrees F outside, properly working plugs should be allowed to glow for 5-10 seconds for optimal starting. Parallel plugs are FAR superior to even brand new PERFECT loop plugs. Low compression is the most common cause in situations with all of the symptoms you have, but if heat from the block heater (it DOES work doesn't it?) should make starting faster. Heat is unlikely to improve a fuel problem. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi (retired) Just ordered a conversion kit from Rusty. Fred __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[MBZ] Hard Starting 240D
Over the past year it is becoming more and more difficult to start my 240D first thing in the morning. Different ambient temperature and plugging in the block heater have not made a difference. I have just recently looked into it and have replaced the spin on fuel filter, cleaned the in line fuel filter, replaced the injector fuel return hoses and adjusted the valves all to no avail. I will usually glow the car twice then turn it over between 2-3 minutes for 45 seconds at a time. While this is going on a grayish cloud of semi burnt diesel exits the tail pipe. I have the new type manual fuel pump and have pumped between 100-150 times before and between attempts with no effect. Now I am seeking the collected wisdom of the list. Additional info - I have the old style loop glow plugs. The ones on the vehicle are at least 7 years and 100K miles old. Do these degrade over time? The starter seems to be turning the engine over fast enough as it catches eventually, but it may be original. The Interstate battery is two years old. If it was compression I would think I'd see increased oil consumption but am still using only 1 quart per 1k miles. Most of these miles between 75-80 mph. Any ideas or help would be appreciated, outside of selling the vehicle. Thanks, Fred Johnson 1977 240D 1983 300SD __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[MBZ] Bio-Diesel in Chicago Suburbs
If anyone is out in the western suburbs there is a Road Ranger at the corner of Roosevelt and Midwest Rd in Lombard that is selling Bio Diesel. Don't know if it's the straight stuff or 80/20. Price is the same as regular #2, $1.499. Fred Johnson 1983 300SD 1977 240D Chicago __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel in Chicago Suburbs
Sorry, s/b 2.499. Still hard to believe the price of this stuff is above [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For $1.499 I'll drive over from Cleveland to fill up! -Dave Walton 94 S350, 99E300 On 2/24/06, Fred Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone is out in the western suburbs there is a Road Ranger at the corner of Roosevelt and Midwest Rd in Lombard that is selling Bio Diesel. Don't know if it's the straight stuff or 80/20. Price is the same as regular #2, $1.499. Fred Johnson 1983 300SD 1977 240D Chicago __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Here comes an oil thread -- Sorry in advance it is a new topic though its about a gasser
I use the Mobil1 weight suggested by the manuf. in the Civic and Corolli in my fleet. Don't know how cold it gets in Wichita but I feel I get a little insurance with synthetics approaching 0F in N. Ill. May be an old husbands tale about flowing quicker, remaining viscous and adhering to metal longer after shut down but it has worked for me. The Honda, Toyotas and 300SD start up immediately no matter how cold. The 240D and 164L, well they're a different story for different reasons Fred Johnson 1977 240D 1983 300SD 1993 Civic 1999 Corolla 1993 Corolla 1991 AR 164L __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Frapper was Re: Here comes an oil thread -- Sorry in advance it is a newtopic though its about a gasser
Will do. I've been listening lately. Haven't had any diesel related issues in quite a while. Had to replace the idle cable on the 240D recently but that's been it. --- Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fred, Haven't seen you in a while on here. Please sign up for Frapper. I am the only one on here in the Chicagoland area currently... http://www.frappr.com/benzbunch Rick Knoble '85 300 CD - Original Message - From: Fred Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[MBZ] Cruise Control Question
On my 83 300SD the cruise control will not hold the desired speed. I can use the accelerate function to get the vehicle up to speed. I can also keep my foot on the accelerator and feel the cruise control trying to hold the vehicle at speed until it eventually gives up. Yesterday I cleaned and lubed the cruise control linkages with ATF. Also cleaned the #12 fuse block. Car had same issues this morning. Any ideas? Thanks, Fred Johnson 1977 240D 1983 300SD Chicago __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Cruise Control Question
Chris, Marshall, Dave, Thanks for the advice. I'll pull the amplifier tonight. I'll also clean the connections. If the issue persists, then it's time for a re-build. Fred __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com