Re: [MBZ] Anyone need what appears to be a brand new Betamax?

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Well, it was better quality than VHS…

Funny story: I had the whole collection of “Green Acres” on VHS, the commercial 
version, not ones I had recorded. I tried selling them for some time and got no 
takers.

The youngest son was working at the Grand Canyon for the NPS at the time, doing 
rim to rim to rim hikes over his nine day shift. There are bunkhouses for the 
NPS employees and contractors in various locations in the Canyon, with limited 
power and water, very basic. That, and anything that got there had to be packed 
in by someone or on a mule.

He mentioned the ancient books and VHS tapes with old CRT TVs being present, so 
when he was home between shifts one time, I gave him the collection of Green 
Acres tapes which packed down to a bunkhouse on the North Kaibab trail.

So my collection of Green Acres tapes now live in perpetuity in an NPS 
bunkhouse…

-D “Vould you like some hotscakes, dahling?”

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[MBZ] Anyone need what appears to be a brand new Betamax?

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[MBZ] Filthy, moldy, suspension malfunction, bad paint, misfire, CEL -- 2006 Mercedes-Benz cls-class CLS 500 Coupe 4D, $2, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Buy my turd

Engine starts up and runs but has misfire . Check engine light is on 
everything else works like it should


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[MBZ] I HAVE PROOF OF TITLE ORDERED IN MY NAME FOR THIS SLAMMED 2001 Mercedes-Benz s-class S 500 Sedan 4D, $2, 100

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Sounds very complicated

I will be getting the title in a month says the tag office I can write a 
bill of sale if it doesn’t sell for my asking price or trades I’ll 
honestly just keep it or mark the price up higher I’m only trying to get 
rid of to fund another project nothings wrong with the car it runs and 
drives amazingly just did a bunch of maintenance I’ll trade for a bunch 
of n55 parts with cash on your end or trade for a 96 civic d16y8 motor 
with cash on your end


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[MBZ] Drop a 2 and I'll come get it -- 2004 Mercedes-Benz cl-class CL 500 Coupe 2D, $2, 750

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Basket case although the wheels are worth something

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[MBZ] Dreamer -- 1958 Mercedes-Benz 300 se,$20,000

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Re: [MBZ] This is What Started it All

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The guy who turned me on to Mercedes had a 220D and lived in the Baltimore, MD 
area. If Potomac German Auto hadn’t been nearby, the car would have expired 
years earlier. I once went with him to a Saturday “special” at PGM where you 
could pay a fixed amount for everything you could carry out. He took this 10’ 
piece of steel pipe with us. I was puzzled until I saw him load up four doors 
with the window frames hung over the pipe and the pipe placed across his 
shoulders. This was pretty much an annual event for him in keeping the car on 
the road. I truly believe you could hear it rust if you stood close to it and 
listened.

And it was brown.

-D

> On May 5, 2024, at 9:55 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
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> Even though Mr. Hounschell had a heated garage with a floor drain in which he 
> washed and hosed off the undercarriage his 200D weekly in the winter, it 
> finally succumbed to the tin worm in 1997 becoming the rustiest car I have 
> ever seen. To be fair it, became his winter beater in 1978 when he bought his 
> first W123. 
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> AZBob
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>> On May 5, 2024, at 8:23 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
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>> At first it looked decent and reasonable, but the more I looked at the 
>> photos the worse it got. Loads of rust and bondo.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On May 5, 2024, at 10:17 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is exactly like the car my friend's father had that lit the MB flame 
>>> for me in 1974.  I have such fond memories of that car.
>>> 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/840578341453046/
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Re: [MBZ] This is What Started it All

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Even though Mr. Hounschell had a heated garage with a floor drain in which he 
washed and hosed off the undercarriage his 200D weekly in the winter, it 
finally succumbed to the tin worm in 1997 becoming the rustiest car I have ever 
seen. To be fair it, became his winter beater in 1978 when he bought his first 
W123. 

AZBob

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> At first it looked decent and reasonable, but the more I looked at the 
> photos the worse it got. Loads of rust and bondo.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On May 5, 2024, at 10:17 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> This is exactly like the car my friend's father had that lit the MB flame 
>> for me in 1974.  I have such fond memories of that car.
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/840578341453046/
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] This is What Started it All

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Those are great cars, and IMHO really helped cement MB's reputation.
Too bad they're not exactly rust-proof.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Vintage....Rare....Remarkable...Classic...Gem....Treasure....

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/cto/d/glendale-1973-mecedes-benz/7742111032.html

"Timeless piece of automotive histroy" but you couldn't take the time to put 
the wheel covers on for the pictures.
[https://images.craigslist.org/00Y0Y_5nzv1vjAL5A_0CI0t2_600x450.jpg]
1973 Mercedes for sale by owner - Glendale, AZ - 
craigslist
Title: Vintage 1973 Mercedes Benz 280 SE 4.5 - Rare Low Mileage Find! 
Description: Presenting a remarkable 1973 Mercedes Benz 280 SE 4.5 with just 
34,000 original miles. This classic gem is a true...
phoenix.craigslist.org
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Re: [MBZ] This is What Started it All

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At first it looked decent and reasonable, but the more I looked at the photos 
the worse it got. Loads of rust and bondo.


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> On May 5, 2024, at 10:17 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> This is exactly like the car my friend's father had that lit the MB flame 
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> 
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[MBZ] This is What Started it All

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

This is exactly like the car my friend's father had that lit the MB flame for 
me in 1974.  I have such fond memories of that car.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: 4-way switch troubleshooting

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Our garage was built with 2 3-way switches: one by the outside door to the
back, and one by the main opening.  Nothing by the door into the house,
and with the garage door opener you basically were _never_ conveniently
near a switch.  When I added on to the garage there was another door added,
also nowhere near a switch.

With considerable difficulty I added two more switches for the two interior 
doors
we use, and both had to be 4-ways.  (Adding wall boxes and getting them wired
in was quite a chore.)  Those are the only two that get used, and of course they
are not cheap should they wear out.  So far, though, there have been no 
failures.
Pushing 20 years now.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: 4-way switch troubleshooting

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 4 May 2024 18:29:38 -0700 Jim Cathey via Mercedes
 wrote:

> > I am thinking switch 3 is the bad one, does that sound right?
> 
> The one that behaves abby-normally is the first suspect.
> Murphy's law suggests that the most expensive one could be it.
> (That's the 4-way switch.)

My thought was the 4-way switch, too, but I had no rationale for that
judgement at the time.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: 4-way switch troubleshooting

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> I am thinking switch 3 is the bad one, does that sound right?

The one that behaves abby-normally is the first suspect.
Murphy's law suggests that the most expensive one could be it.
(That's the 4-way switch.)

We had ants get into one switch.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] OT: 4-way switch troubleshooting

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I have a 4-way switch configuration in the basement (lights can be turned on or 
off from three locations). Been working fine for years.

Suddenly it's acting strange. With the lights on, switch 1 and switch 2 will 
turn the lights off, switch 3 will not. If I understand correctly, that 
indicates that 3 is the bad switch.

However, if switch 3 is in the "up" position the other two switches don't work 
(lights remain on, except briefly as the switch is toggled). There is no brief 
cutout as switch 3 is toggled.

I am thinking switch 3 is the bad one, does that sound right?

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] if you don’t have 9k don’t even bother

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Well, it is the wild world of FBMP

--FT

On 5/4/24 11:41 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

I'm confused. Do they want to trade, or do they want money to sell outright?

 From a truly funny movie that few probably remember:


[hqdefault.jpg]
This Could Very Well Be The Stupidest Person On The Face Of The 
Earth
youtu.be

-D



On May 4, 2024, at 8:36 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
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Running hot, CEL, TPMS, seatbelt light, driving while moron

Looking to trade my c63 amg I will only take 9k cash

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Re: [MBZ] if you don’t have 9k don’t even bother

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

This is the full clip of the scene, you really need to watch it to appreciate 
that line. Bill Pullman does an amazing job here:


[maxresdefault.jpeg]
"PERHAPS WE SHOULD SHOOT HIM!" RUTHLESS PEOPLE 
(1986)
youtu.be

-D


On May 4, 2024, at 8:41 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes  
wrote:

I'm confused. Do they want to trade, or do they want money to sell outright?

From a truly funny movie that few probably remember:


[hqdefault.jpg]
This Could Very Well Be The Stupidest Person On The Face Of The 
Earth
youtu.be

-D



On May 4, 2024, at 8:36 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Running hot, CEL, TPMS, seatbelt light, driving while moron

Looking to trade my c63 amg I will only take 9k cash

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1263155904646054

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[MBZ] no need to ask 50 questions 2008 Mercedes-Benz s-class S 63 AMG Sedan 4D, $12, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Stephen Preachawear Carter 
 
say DONT WASTE MINE OR YOUR TIME WITH LOWBALL OFFERS OR TRADES NOT CLOSE 
TO BEING EQUAL VALUE!


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Re: [MBZ] if you don’t have 9k don’t even bother

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I'm confused. Do they want to trade, or do they want money to sell outright?

From a truly funny movie that few probably remember:


[hqdefault.jpg]
This Could Very Well Be The Stupidest Person On The Face Of The 
Earth
youtu.be

-D



On May 4, 2024, at 8:36 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Running hot, CEL, TPMS, seatbelt light, driving while moron

Looking to trade my c63 amg I will only take 9k cash

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1263155904646054

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[MBZ] if you don’t have 9k don’t even bother

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Running hot, CEL, TPMS, seatbelt light, driving while moron

Looking to trade my c63 amg I will only take 9k cash

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1263155904646054

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[MBZ] Doesn’t turn on. 2008 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 320 BLUETEC Sedan 4D,$850

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Fuel pump? Key issue?  Something else?  hard to tell from the description.

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[MBZ] Rollins like a balla yo Matte green wrap ( jams too) 1984 Mercedes-Benz 500 sel, $17, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Euro, looks like it might actually have been green/green originally but 
I'm sure the paint is completely trashed.  Drop a 0 and we could talk


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[MBZ] only con is , No Title 2004 Mercedes-Benz m-class ML 500 Sport Utility 4D, $1, 800

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

looks like it might be a 430

MethodRich Ê Banz 



I have photo showing proof of perfect testing! (except for all the 
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting spec -- 2013 Mercedes-Benz gl-class,$18,599

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Yikes. Zu viele . 
It sure is pretty though. 

AZBob 

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> On May 4, 2024, at 8:08 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> Ask is way too high for the miles and year
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/796458959079158
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[MBZ] some going into the MILLIONS of miles.1978 Mercedes-Benz 240 d, $9, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

But does it have the rare ZUNDFOGLE engine?

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[MBZ] Interesting spec -- 2013 Mercedes-Benz gl-class,$18,599

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Ask is way too high for the miles and year

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Re: [MBZ] Car fax

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Nope. Carfax is quite expensive. Used to be $99 for six reports. It's now $99 
for four reports. Bumper is $38.97 every three months.

Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>

From: Mercedes  on behalf of RICK HAWKINS via 
Mercedes 
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 9:44:52 PM
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Cc: RICK HAWKINS 
Subject: [MBZ] Car fax

Folks

I thought carfax had a subscription and then you could do what you wanted

Thanks for the bumper report ..l wonder if Toyota has a national database

Xx rick

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[MBZ] Car fax

[RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes]

Folks

I thought carfax had a subscription and then you could do what you wanted 

Thanks for the bumper report ..l wonder if Toyota has a national database

Xx rick

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Re: [MBZ] Can someone run a car fax?

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Not free anymore 

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> On May 3, 2024, at 8:45 PM, RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes  
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> My GF wants to buy 2000 Toyota solara convertible ….  2T1FF28P6YC389380
> 
> 127k miles
> 
> Prob needs timing belt
> 
> If one of you has the car fax it would be great
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Can someone run a car fax?

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[MBZ] Can someone run a car fax?

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Folks 

My GF wants to buy 2000 Toyota solara convertible ….  2T1FF28P6YC389380

127k miles

Prob needs timing belt

If one of you has the car fax it would be great

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[MBZ] no issues at all (except the airmatic warning) -- 2005 Mercedes E500 - $3, 900 (Charlotte)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This vehicle is road ready with no issues at all.

title status: salvage 



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Re: [MBZ] Ivory?/Red -- 1987 Mercedes-Benz 300 sdl SDL,$6,500

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Repaint. VIN says Smoke Silver was the color it shipped with.

-D

On May 3, 2024, at 12:51 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:

There's no point in restoring a 1987 S Class turbo diesel unless it has a 
leather interior.

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That is a very unusual color combination. I have always liked the exterior 
cream color. Looks like a good deal, not so sure about that interior color with 
the cream outside, though.
-D

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Re: [MBZ] Ivory?/Red -- 1987 Mercedes-Benz 300 sdl SDL,$6,500

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There's no point in restoring a 1987 S Class turbo diesel unless it has a
leather interior.

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> That is a very unusual color combination. I have always liked the exterior
> cream color. Looks like a good deal, not so sure about that interior color
> with the cream outside, though.
> -D
>
> > On May 3, 2024, at 8:36 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
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Re: [MBZ] Ivory?/Red -- 1987 Mercedes-Benz 300 sdl SDL,$6,500

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That is a very unusual color combination. I have always liked the exterior 
cream color. Looks like a good deal, not so sure about that interior color with 
the cream outside, though.
-D

> On May 3, 2024, at 8:36 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
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>> Looks fairly decent
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>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/455825413482097
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Re: [MBZ] Only Expecting Offers in Person

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Re: [MBZ] Chrysler Mercedes....Who Knew?

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Re: [MBZ] S600

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A little crazy but not too bad. Looks nice

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Re: [MBZ] S600

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It’s not, but ask the owner what they’ve spent on maintenance.

It’s got ABC, which is a wonderful thing, but can be very, very expensive to 
maintain.

-D

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[MBZ] S600

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I feel this isn't insane:
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[MBZ] Chrysler Mercedes....Who Knew?

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[MBZ] Only Expecting Offers in Person

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Re: [MBZ] Poos's bumblebee -- 1998 Mercedes-Benz compresor,$7,500

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Alles.
It is the correct color for Ingersol Rand. (compressor)

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> Nice. Too bad it’s not an M112. No Kompressors, thank you.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Ivory?/Red -- 1987 Mercedes-Benz 300 sdl SDL,$6,500

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That color combo looks very odd. 

AZBob 

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Re: [MBZ] Poos's bumblebee -- 1998 Mercedes-Benz compresor,$7,500

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Nice. Too bad it’s not an M112. No Kompressors, thank you.

-D

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[MBZ] Poos's bumblebee -- 1998 Mercedes-Benz compresor,$7,500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/848947420597928/

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[MBZ] Needs transmission and a tire 1999 Mercedes CLK 430 for Sale!!! $900 OBO, $900

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Help Quanisha out!  I bet it just needs a new conductor plate.  Could be 
a reasonable flip at $600, the wheels look to be worth something


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[MBZ] in a rough spot right now just need the money 1999 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 320 AWD Wagon 4D, $1, 200

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Beater wagon could be a good utility and winter with a bit of work.  It 
actually doesn't look too bad


im down to negotiate. i just would like this thing gone.

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[MBZ] super low miles 2005 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 500 Sedan 4D, $9, 000

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And some crack too

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Re: [MBZ] I Had Two Birthdays Reading the Description

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Looks like it was listed 49weeks ago?

he also knows a lot about you: professional, a little quirky, daring to 
be different, conscientious about fuel economy, and you like a touch of 
luxury with your practicality.


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[MBZ] 1985 Mercedes Turbo 300SD there is 2 one brown one black cash and Tow pick up by 4/3, $350

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

My husband is coming back home on 4/4.  or 5/4.  One of those days.

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[MBZ] Ivory?/Red -- 1987 Mercedes-Benz 300 sdl SDL,$6,500

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Looks fairly decent

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Re: [MBZ] OT cybertruck HAHAHA

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The likeness is good. Welcome to Floriduh!

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[MBZ] OT cybertruck HAHAHA

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[MBZ] OT this looks like a good deal

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1951 Packard ultra $2000 looks to be in not too bad condition 

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[MBZ] I Had Two Birthdays Reading the Description

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Re: [MBZ] W211 E500 more air suspension questions

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FCP Euro is listing only the rebuilt struts. RockAuto has both rebuilt and new.

Here's the Arnott page about them, but I can't say that it's particularly 
enlightening.

https://www.arnottindustries.com/all-struts-shocks/

I guess what they say about the OE cores "they eventually wear out and can no 
longer be rebuilt" makes some sense. They say theirs are "Engineered & 
assembled in the USA"

I compared the specifications, and they look the same except that the rebuilt 
struts list "Adjustable Damping - Yes" and the new ones say No.

FCP Euro lifetime warranties everything, so I'll probably buy the rebuilts from 
them despite the higher price vs. RockAuto. Basically would end up paying about 
$250 more for the lifetime warranty.

Arnott apparently does buy cores but they list the 03-09 E-Class (W211) fronts 
at only $50. Also if the car already has aftermarket struts (not sure yet) they 
would not buy those.


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> So the professionals are saying rebuilt Arnott rather than “new” as 
> they are made in China. Rebuilts are OE units and completely gone 
> through.
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>> People are telling me that both the rebuilt and “new” Arnotts have the same 
>> warranty (2 years?) If that’s the case, unless the core charge is something 
>> spectacular, it would seem that the new ones would be the best choice. That, 
>> or do the maths on the rebuilt ones with core and shipping charges through 
>> FCP so you get their lifetime warranty. See what Arnott is doing for cores, 
>> that is, are they purchasing cores outright? If so, you could go with new 
>> from FCP and sell off the cores to offset your costs.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 1, 2024, at 12:38 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apparently Arnott now sells "new" and "remanufactured" struts.
>>> 
>>> FCP Euro sells the rebuilt struts. Rock Auto has both.
>>> 
>>> The new ones are described as:
>>> 
>>>   This new assembly replaces the O.E. strut and features a new custom
>>>   tuned shock absorber calibrated to provide an outstanding ride and
>>>   performance. The Arnott strut includes a new air bladder from
>>>   ContiTech protected by an aluminum can along with a CNC machined top
>>>   mount made from aircraft quality aluminum. This new air strut comes
>>>   pre-assembled for easy installation and includes Arnott's long
>>>   lasting seals, bump stop, heavy duty crimping rings, and connector
>>>   valve along with a dust boot to protect the strut.
>>> 
>>> The rebuilts are:
>>> 
>>>   This Arnott rebuilt OE Mercedes-Benz air strut features a new
>>>   ContiTech air spring bladder along with a new CNC-machined aluminum
>>>   upper and lower piston.
>>> 
>>> They are only a few dollars different; the rebuilds do have a core charge 
>>> and require returning the old parts.
>>> 
>>> I wonder if the shops you heard from were talking about the "new" Arnott 
>>> struts or their rebuilds?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, May 1, 2024, at 12:41, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 I have not, but I’ll ask.
 
 -D
 
> On May 1, 2024, at 8:39 AM, Allan Streib  wrote:
> 
> NAPA sells some made by Dorman. Have you heard anything about those?
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 22:43, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Not any more, according to a number of independent MB shops I know. 
>> They suggest that the quality of the Arnott replacement struts has been 
>> dropping off.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 30, 2024, at 1:52 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> FCP Euro is wanting $600 each plus $200 core charge.
>>> 
>>> Rockauto $470 no core charge.
>>> 
>>> That's a big difference to pay for the lifetime FCP warranty. Are the 
>>> Arnotts pretty reliable?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 14:52, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
 19yo car, these are maintenance items.  Get some Arnotts and replace 
 them both and not have to worry about it for another 10-20yr
 
 --FT
 
 On 4/30/24 1:19 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> Still have not repaired my air leak, I know I need to do it sooner 
> rather than later as it's probably stressing the compressor.
> 
> I have noticed however that the leakdown seems much more pronounced 
> if I park with the wheels turned. Last night I parked at about 10pm 
> with the wheels about halfway to the left, and by 8am it was all the 
> way down. But when I park with the wheels straight it stays up or at 
> least leaks down much more slowly.
> 
> Does that more definitively indicate something leaking in the strut? 
> I just hate to spend the money on new struts if that isn't the 
> problem. I have not found leaks anywhere using the soapy water 

Re: [MBZ] OT Porch Problems

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Yeah I’m wondering if Tommy found out the guy was shorting him so squealed on 
him

--FT
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> On May 1, 2024, at 4:13 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Car dealers can be crooked.
> In other news, water is wet.
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT Regime changes on a budget

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4 skinnies and a .50 is all you need to create some mayhem 

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> On May 1, 2024, at 4:13 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That’s a really nice example of a Hilux. I’ve ridden in my fair share of 
> these in 3rd world countries, and they’re like the VW Beetle of the third 
> world. Nothing pretty, but tough to kill.
> 
> And what pickup truck would you choose if it didn’t have the capability of a 
> machine gun mount in the bed?
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 1, 2024, at 10:32 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/share/aWCJrx4uzjYycTzN/?mibextid=79PoIi
>> 
>> 
>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] W211 E500 more air suspension questions

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

So the professionals are saying rebuilt Arnott rather than “new” as they are 
made in China. Rebuilts are OE units and completely gone through.

-D

> On May 1, 2024, at 1:16 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> People are telling me that both the rebuilt and “new” Arnotts have the same 
> warranty (2 years?) If that’s the case, unless the core charge is something 
> spectacular, it would seem that the new ones would be the best choice. That, 
> or do the maths on the rebuilt ones with core and shipping charges through 
> FCP so you get their lifetime warranty. See what Arnott is doing for cores, 
> that is, are they purchasing cores outright? If so, you could go with new 
> from FCP and sell off the cores to offset your costs.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 1, 2024, at 12:38 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:
>> 
>> Apparently Arnott now sells "new" and "remanufactured" struts.
>> 
>> FCP Euro sells the rebuilt struts. Rock Auto has both.
>> 
>> The new ones are described as:
>> 
>>   This new assembly replaces the O.E. strut and features a new custom
>>   tuned shock absorber calibrated to provide an outstanding ride and
>>   performance. The Arnott strut includes a new air bladder from
>>   ContiTech protected by an aluminum can along with a CNC machined top
>>   mount made from aircraft quality aluminum. This new air strut comes
>>   pre-assembled for easy installation and includes Arnott's long
>>   lasting seals, bump stop, heavy duty crimping rings, and connector
>>   valve along with a dust boot to protect the strut.
>> 
>> The rebuilts are:
>> 
>>   This Arnott rebuilt OE Mercedes-Benz air strut features a new
>>   ContiTech air spring bladder along with a new CNC-machined aluminum
>>   upper and lower piston.
>> 
>> They are only a few dollars different; the rebuilds do have a core charge 
>> and require returning the old parts.
>> 
>> I wonder if the shops you heard from were talking about the "new" Arnott 
>> struts or their rebuilds?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, May 1, 2024, at 12:41, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I have not, but I’ll ask.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On May 1, 2024, at 8:39 AM, Allan Streib  wrote:
 
 NAPA sells some made by Dorman. Have you heard anything about those?
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 22:43, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Not any more, according to a number of independent MB shops I know. 
> They suggest that the quality of the Arnott replacement struts has been 
> dropping off.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 30, 2024, at 1:52 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> FCP Euro is wanting $600 each plus $200 core charge.
>> 
>> Rockauto $470 no core charge.
>> 
>> That's a big difference to pay for the lifetime FCP warranty. Are the 
>> Arnotts pretty reliable?
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 14:52, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 19yo car, these are maintenance items.  Get some Arnotts and replace 
>>> them both and not have to worry about it for another 10-20yr
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> On 4/30/24 1:19 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
 Still have not repaired my air leak, I know I need to do it sooner 
 rather than later as it's probably stressing the compressor.
 
 I have noticed however that the leakdown seems much more pronounced if 
 I park with the wheels turned. Last night I parked at about 10pm with 
 the wheels about halfway to the left, and by 8am it was all the way 
 down. But when I park with the wheels straight it stays up or at least 
 leaks down much more slowly.
 
 Does that more definitively indicate something leaking in the strut? I 
 just hate to spend the money on new struts if that isn't the problem. 
 I have not found leaks anywhere using the soapy water test.
 
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Re: [MBZ] W211 E500 more air suspension questions

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People are telling me that both the rebuilt and “new” Arnotts have the same 
warranty (2 years?) If that’s the case, unless the core charge is something 
spectacular, it would seem that the new ones would be the best choice. That, or 
do the maths on the rebuilt ones with core and shipping charges through FCP so 
you get their lifetime warranty. See what Arnott is doing for cores, that is, 
are they purchasing cores outright? If so, you could go with new from FCP and 
sell off the cores to offset your costs.

-D

> On May 1, 2024, at 12:38 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:
> 
> Apparently Arnott now sells "new" and "remanufactured" struts.
> 
> FCP Euro sells the rebuilt struts. Rock Auto has both.
> 
> The new ones are described as:
> 
>This new assembly replaces the O.E. strut and features a new custom
>tuned shock absorber calibrated to provide an outstanding ride and
>performance. The Arnott strut includes a new air bladder from
>ContiTech protected by an aluminum can along with a CNC machined top
>mount made from aircraft quality aluminum. This new air strut comes
>pre-assembled for easy installation and includes Arnott's long
>lasting seals, bump stop, heavy duty crimping rings, and connector
>valve along with a dust boot to protect the strut.
> 
> The rebuilts are:
> 
>This Arnott rebuilt OE Mercedes-Benz air strut features a new
>ContiTech air spring bladder along with a new CNC-machined aluminum
>upper and lower piston.
> 
> They are only a few dollars different; the rebuilds do have a core charge and 
> require returning the old parts.
> 
> I wonder if the shops you heard from were talking about the "new" Arnott 
> struts or their rebuilds?
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 1, 2024, at 12:41, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> I have not, but I’ll ask.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 1, 2024, at 8:39 AM, Allan Streib  wrote:
>>> 
>>> NAPA sells some made by Dorman. Have you heard anything about those?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 22:43, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 Not any more, according to a number of independent MB shops I know. 
 They suggest that the quality of the Arnott replacement struts has been 
 dropping off.
 
 -D
 
> On Apr 30, 2024, at 1:52 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> FCP Euro is wanting $600 each plus $200 core charge.
> 
> Rockauto $470 no core charge.
> 
> That's a big difference to pay for the lifetime FCP warranty. Are the 
> Arnotts pretty reliable?
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 14:52, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> 19yo car, these are maintenance items.  Get some Arnotts and replace 
>> them both and not have to worry about it for another 10-20yr
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> On 4/30/24 1:19 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Still have not repaired my air leak, I know I need to do it sooner 
>>> rather than later as it's probably stressing the compressor.
>>> 
>>> I have noticed however that the leakdown seems much more pronounced if 
>>> I park with the wheels turned. Last night I parked at about 10pm with 
>>> the wheels about halfway to the left, and by 8am it was all the way 
>>> down. But when I park with the wheels straight it stays up or at least 
>>> leaks down much more slowly.
>>> 
>>> Does that more definitively indicate something leaking in the strut? I 
>>> just hate to spend the money on new struts if that isn't the problem. I 
>>> have not found leaks anywhere using the soapy water test.
>>> 
>>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT Regime changes on a budget

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That’s a really nice example of a Hilux. I’ve ridden in my fair share of these 
in 3rd world countries, and they’re like the VW Beetle of the third world. 
Nothing pretty, but tough to kill.

And what pickup truck would you choose if it didn’t have the capability of a 
machine gun mount in the bed?

-D

> On May 1, 2024, at 10:32 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/share/aWCJrx4uzjYycTzN/?mibextid=79PoIi
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Porch Problems

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Car dealers can be crooked.
In other news, water is wet.

Rick

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Re: [MBZ] W211 E500 more air suspension questions

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I will ask. I suspect it was the rebuilt ones.

-D

> On May 1, 2024, at 12:38 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:
> 
> Apparently Arnott now sells "new" and "remanufactured" struts.
> 
> FCP Euro sells the rebuilt struts. Rock Auto has both.
> 
> The new ones are described as:
> 
>This new assembly replaces the O.E. strut and features a new custom
>tuned shock absorber calibrated to provide an outstanding ride and
>performance. The Arnott strut includes a new air bladder from
>ContiTech protected by an aluminum can along with a CNC machined top
>mount made from aircraft quality aluminum. This new air strut comes
>pre-assembled for easy installation and includes Arnott's long
>lasting seals, bump stop, heavy duty crimping rings, and connector
>valve along with a dust boot to protect the strut.
> 
> The rebuilts are:
> 
>This Arnott rebuilt OE Mercedes-Benz air strut features a new
>ContiTech air spring bladder along with a new CNC-machined aluminum
>upper and lower piston.
> 
> They are only a few dollars different; the rebuilds do have a core charge and 
> require returning the old parts.
> 
> I wonder if the shops you heard from were talking about the "new" Arnott 
> struts or their rebuilds?
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 1, 2024, at 12:41, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> I have not, but I’ll ask.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 1, 2024, at 8:39 AM, Allan Streib  wrote:
>>> 
>>> NAPA sells some made by Dorman. Have you heard anything about those?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 22:43, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 Not any more, according to a number of independent MB shops I know. 
 They suggest that the quality of the Arnott replacement struts has been 
 dropping off.
 
 -D
 
> On Apr 30, 2024, at 1:52 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> FCP Euro is wanting $600 each plus $200 core charge.
> 
> Rockauto $470 no core charge.
> 
> That's a big difference to pay for the lifetime FCP warranty. Are the 
> Arnotts pretty reliable?
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 14:52, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> 19yo car, these are maintenance items.  Get some Arnotts and replace 
>> them both and not have to worry about it for another 10-20yr
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> On 4/30/24 1:19 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Still have not repaired my air leak, I know I need to do it sooner 
>>> rather than later as it's probably stressing the compressor.
>>> 
>>> I have noticed however that the leakdown seems much more pronounced if 
>>> I park with the wheels turned. Last night I parked at about 10pm with 
>>> the wheels about halfway to the left, and by 8am it was all the way 
>>> down. But when I park with the wheels straight it stays up or at least 
>>> leaks down much more slowly.
>>> 
>>> Does that more definitively indicate something leaking in the strut? I 
>>> just hate to spend the money on new struts if that isn't the problem. I 
>>> have not found leaks anywhere using the soapy water test.
>>> 
>>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] W211 E500 more air suspension questions

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Apparently Arnott now sells "new" and "remanufactured" struts.

FCP Euro sells the rebuilt struts. Rock Auto has both.

The new ones are described as:

This new assembly replaces the O.E. strut and features a new custom
tuned shock absorber calibrated to provide an outstanding ride and
performance. The Arnott strut includes a new air bladder from
ContiTech protected by an aluminum can along with a CNC machined top
mount made from aircraft quality aluminum. This new air strut comes
pre-assembled for easy installation and includes Arnott's long
lasting seals, bump stop, heavy duty crimping rings, and connector
valve along with a dust boot to protect the strut.

The rebuilts are:

This Arnott rebuilt OE Mercedes-Benz air strut features a new
ContiTech air spring bladder along with a new CNC-machined aluminum
upper and lower piston.

They are only a few dollars different; the rebuilds do have a core charge and 
require returning the old parts.

I wonder if the shops you heard from were talking about the "new" Arnott struts 
or their rebuilds?



On Wed, May 1, 2024, at 12:41, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> I have not, but I’ll ask.
>
> -D
>
>> On May 1, 2024, at 8:39 AM, Allan Streib  wrote:
>> 
>> NAPA sells some made by Dorman. Have you heard anything about those?
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 22:43, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Not any more, according to a number of independent MB shops I know. 
>>> They suggest that the quality of the Arnott replacement struts has been 
>>> dropping off.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Apr 30, 2024, at 1:52 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 FCP Euro is wanting $600 each plus $200 core charge.
 
 Rockauto $470 no core charge.
 
 That's a big difference to pay for the lifetime FCP warranty. Are the 
 Arnotts pretty reliable?
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 14:52, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> 19yo car, these are maintenance items.  Get some Arnotts and replace 
> them both and not have to worry about it for another 10-20yr
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 4/30/24 1:19 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> Still have not repaired my air leak, I know I need to do it sooner 
>> rather than later as it's probably stressing the compressor.
>> 
>> I have noticed however that the leakdown seems much more pronounced if I 
>> park with the wheels turned. Last night I parked at about 10pm with the 
>> wheels about halfway to the left, and by 8am it was all the way down. 
>> But when I park with the wheels straight it stays up or at least leaks 
>> down much more slowly.
>> 
>> Does that more definitively indicate something leaking in the strut? I 
>> just hate to spend the money on new struts if that isn't the problem. I 
>> have not found leaks anywhere using the soapy water test.
>> 
>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] W211 E500 more air suspension questions

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

RockAuto also has these by "FCS" for $365.

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=11387517=1426429=7556=1387

I probably sound like I'm cheaping out, and if it were a newer car I'd not 
hesitate to just put new Bilsteins in it but the car is 20 years old. I'm 
taking more of a "keep it on the road" approach with it. Yet I want to get 
something that's not going to blow out in 18 months and especially not leave me 
on the side of the road needing a tow.

I should probably try to see what brand it has on it now, whether they are the 
factory originals or have already been replaced.

Allan


On Wed, May 1, 2024, at 12:41, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> I have not, but I’ll ask.
>
> -D
>
>> On May 1, 2024, at 8:39 AM, Allan Streib  wrote:
>> 
>> NAPA sells some made by Dorman. Have you heard anything about those?
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 22:43, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Not any more, according to a number of independent MB shops I know. 
>>> They suggest that the quality of the Arnott replacement struts has been 
>>> dropping off.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Apr 30, 2024, at 1:52 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 FCP Euro is wanting $600 each plus $200 core charge.
 
 Rockauto $470 no core charge.
 
 That's a big difference to pay for the lifetime FCP warranty. Are the 
 Arnotts pretty reliable?
 
 
 On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 14:52, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> 19yo car, these are maintenance items.  Get some Arnotts and replace 
> them both and not have to worry about it for another 10-20yr
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 4/30/24 1:19 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> Still have not repaired my air leak, I know I need to do it sooner 
>> rather than later as it's probably stressing the compressor.
>> 
>> I have noticed however that the leakdown seems much more pronounced if I 
>> park with the wheels turned. Last night I parked at about 10pm with the 
>> wheels about halfway to the left, and by 8am it was all the way down. 
>> But when I park with the wheels straight it stays up or at least leaks 
>> down much more slowly.
>> 
>> Does that more definitively indicate something leaking in the strut? I 
>> just hate to spend the money on new struts if that isn't the problem. I 
>> have not found leaks anywhere using the soapy water test.
>> 
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[MBZ] OT Regime changes on a budget

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Re: [MBZ] W211 E500 more air suspension questions

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I have not, but I’ll ask.

-D

> On May 1, 2024, at 8:39 AM, Allan Streib  wrote:
> 
> NAPA sells some made by Dorman. Have you heard anything about those?
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 22:43, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Not any more, according to a number of independent MB shops I know. 
>> They suggest that the quality of the Arnott replacement struts has been 
>> dropping off.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 30, 2024, at 1:52 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> FCP Euro is wanting $600 each plus $200 core charge.
>>> 
>>> Rockauto $470 no core charge.
>>> 
>>> That's a big difference to pay for the lifetime FCP warranty. Are the 
>>> Arnotts pretty reliable?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 14:52, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
 19yo car, these are maintenance items.  Get some Arnotts and replace 
 them both and not have to worry about it for another 10-20yr
 
 --FT
 
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> Still have not repaired my air leak, I know I need to do it sooner rather 
> than later as it's probably stressing the compressor.
> 
> I have noticed however that the leakdown seems much more pronounced if I 
> park with the wheels turned. Last night I parked at about 10pm with the 
> wheels about halfway to the left, and by 8am it was all the way down. But 
> when I park with the wheels straight it stays up or at least leaks down 
> much more slowly.
> 
> Does that more definitively indicate something leaking in the strut? I 
> just hate to spend the money on new struts if that isn't the problem. I 
> have not found leaks anywhere using the soapy water test.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Straight 6 gas motor 1964 Unimog Troop Carrier for Sale, $11, 500

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Is that an M110 engine? The thing probably has a top speed of about 45mph. 
Seems to be missing the interior engine cover, otherwise looks pretty original.


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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/386807733819084
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[MBZ] Straight 6 gas motor 1964 Unimog Troop Carrier for Sale, $11, 500

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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/386807733819084

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[MBZ] Limpio,$2,500

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Mercedes Benz C230

Pintura no limpio

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1402997237252856

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[MBZ] Could be a good deal -- 2006 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 500 4MATIC Sedan 4D, $2, 200

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Offer $1500, put on the new bags in his driveway, head home

Car runs great but it needs rear airbags which I have,windshield,and it 
has a small exhaust leak. Heat and Ac works,clean interior. $2200 or 
best offer.


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[MBZ] has oil leak and misfires really bad 2008 Mercedes-Benz e-class E 350 Sedan 4D, $1, 300

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Bad news bro.  One mismatched wheel.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/240603995778844

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Re: [MBZ] 2003 ML500 - 74k miles - $10,800

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Unrealistic price.  Maybe $6k on a good day...

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> Look clean, bland colors, aftermarket radio.
>
> No tow hitch, but I guess at least you know that it hasn't been abused
> towing.
>
> Ambitious price.
>
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[MBZ] I Think the Odo Has Been Broke for 40 years

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The interior belies the mileage I'd say.

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Re: [MBZ] W211 E500 more air suspension questions

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

NAPA sells some made by Dorman. Have you heard anything about those?


On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 22:43, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Not any more, according to a number of independent MB shops I know. 
> They suggest that the quality of the Arnott replacement struts has been 
> dropping off.
>
> -D
>
>> On Apr 30, 2024, at 1:52 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> FCP Euro is wanting $600 each plus $200 core charge.
>> 
>> Rockauto $470 no core charge.
>> 
>> That's a big difference to pay for the lifetime FCP warranty. Are the 
>> Arnotts pretty reliable?
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 14:52, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 19yo car, these are maintenance items.  Get some Arnotts and replace 
>>> them both and not have to worry about it for another 10-20yr
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> On 4/30/24 1:19 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
 Still have not repaired my air leak, I know I need to do it sooner rather 
 than later as it's probably stressing the compressor.
 
 I have noticed however that the leakdown seems much more pronounced if I 
 park with the wheels turned. Last night I parked at about 10pm with the 
 wheels about halfway to the left, and by 8am it was all the way down. But 
 when I park with the wheels straight it stays up or at least leaks down 
 much more slowly.
 
 Does that more definitively indicate something leaking in the strut? I 
 just hate to spend the money on new struts if that isn't the problem. I 
 have not found leaks anywhere using the soapy water test.
 
 Allan
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Re: [MBZ] This looks incredibly weird -- 1974 Mercedes-Benz 450SL - $22, 500 (Palm Coast)

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My best guess is that somewhere in Europe there is a car bone yard with a
set that is decent or could be refurbed to decent.. "If money is no object,
anything is possible"... :))
The ask on this car is out of my lunch money limit, so I can only lust for
it.. If you buy it, take me for a ride... [even with the ugly bumpers, haha]

On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 8:27 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> I suppose those can still be found?
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
> > On Apr 30, 2024, at 7:13 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Throw a set of Euro style bumpers on it and I could love it for life.
> > It presents well in the Pics [except for those bone ugly bumpers].
> >
> >
> >> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 12:10 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> >>
> >> Those park benches really do it no good aesthetically
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] W211 E500 more air suspension questions

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Not any more, according to a number of independent MB shops I know. They 
suggest that the quality of the Arnott replacement struts has been dropping off.

-D

> On Apr 30, 2024, at 1:52 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> FCP Euro is wanting $600 each plus $200 core charge.
> 
> Rockauto $470 no core charge.
> 
> That's a big difference to pay for the lifetime FCP warranty. Are the Arnotts 
> pretty reliable?
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 14:52, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> 19yo car, these are maintenance items.  Get some Arnotts and replace 
>> them both and not have to worry about it for another 10-20yr
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> On 4/30/24 1:19 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Still have not repaired my air leak, I know I need to do it sooner rather 
>>> than later as it's probably stressing the compressor.
>>> 
>>> I have noticed however that the leakdown seems much more pronounced if I 
>>> park with the wheels turned. Last night I parked at about 10pm with the 
>>> wheels about halfway to the left, and by 8am it was all the way down. But 
>>> when I park with the wheels straight it stays up or at least leaks down 
>>> much more slowly.
>>> 
>>> Does that more definitively indicate something leaking in the strut? I just 
>>> hate to spend the money on new struts if that isn't the problem. I have not 
>>> found leaks anywhere using the soapy water test.
>>> 
>>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] This looks incredibly weird -- 1974 Mercedes-Benz 450SL - $22, 500 (Palm Coast)

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I suppose those can still be found?

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> On Apr 30, 2024, at 7:13 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Throw a set of Euro style bumpers on it and I could love it for life.
> It presents well in the Pics [except for those bone ugly bumpers].
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 12:10 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Those park benches really do it no good aesthetically
>> 
>> 
>> https://daytona.craigslist.org/cto/d/palm-coast-1974-mercedes-benz-450sl/7742114036.html
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[MBZ] 2003 ML500 - 74k miles - $10,800

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Look clean, bland colors, aftermarket radio.

No tow hitch, but I guess at least you know that it hasn't been abused towing.

Ambitious price.

https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/loveland-clean-2003-mercedes-benz-ml500/7742492427.html
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Re: [MBZ] This looks incredibly weird -- 1974 Mercedes-Benz 450SL - $22, 500 (Palm Coast)

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Throw a set of Euro style bumpers on it and I could love it for life.
It presents well in the Pics [except for those bone ugly bumpers].


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> Those park benches really do it no good aesthetically
>
>
> https://daytona.craigslist.org/cto/d/palm-coast-1974-mercedes-benz-450sl/7742114036.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT Porch Problems

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On 2024-04-30 17:37, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
So, do you think Porsche found out and put the screws to the 
dealership, or that the owner of the dealership found out and was not 
happy that he did not get the bribery monies?


I'm thinking that the manager was selling cars for X+Y and embezzling 
the Y whilst putting the X on the paperwork.


My guess is that if proven, he should be charged with embezzlement and 
assessed criminal damages of Y or Y+interest.


Asking for a full refund of several years' earned wages is pie in the 
sky dreaming, unless it's the only way for him to avoid a many year 
prison sentence (and I don't see a many year prison term in his future 
anyway).


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Re: [MBZ] OT Porch Problems

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So, do you think Porsche found out and put the screws to the dealership, 
or that the owner of the dealership found out and was not happy that he 
did not get the bribery monies?


Randy


On 30/04/2024 4:30 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
The local Benz stealer also owns the other high-end stores in town. 
I'm wondering if this guy is related to a guy I know


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 Lawsuit accuses former manager at SC Porsche dealership of taking
 bribes for cars

David Wren dw...@postandcourier.com
3–4 minutes


The owner of a Porsche automobile dealership in Charleston is suing 
its former sales manager over allegations that he required customers 
to make under-the-table payments totaling hundreds of thousands of 
dollars to secure the highly sought after vehicles they wanted to buy.


Baker Motor Co., owner of the Porsche Charleston dealership 
 on Savannah Highway in West 
Ashley, is accusing James Marino of pocketing bribes for high-demand 
cars since at least 2022, according to a lawsuit filed in Charleston 
County court 
.


Marino has not filed a response to the lawsuit, and he could not be 
reached for comment. A lawyer for Baker Motor Co. did not immediately 
respond to an email seeking further information.


Marino had been sales manager at the dealership for six years before 
being terminated in March after the alleged bribery scheme was 
discovered, according to the lawsuit.



 



The dealership "specializes in selling high-end, luxury Porsche 
automobiles," the lawsuit states, adding the vehicles "are in high 
demand, and there are often numerous potential buyers competing for 
them."


A report by Road & Track 
 
states the timeline for ordering a Porsche can be as little as three 
months, but "the waitlist for models like the 718 generation Cayman or 
even a 992 generation 911 Carrera S can be years long."


"With nearly every Porsche model in high demand, build allocations are 
highly sought after and the models that aren't spoken for upon dealer 
arrival become highly competitive assets," the magazine stated.



 



The lawsuit states that as sales manager, "Marino had the final say in 
determining which potential buyer would be allowed to purchase these 
high-demand automobiles."


Baker Motor says in court documents that Marino's actions were 
"intentional, willful, wanton, reckless and malicious." The company 
wants a judge to force Marino to repay all of the money he made from 
the alleged scheme as well as all of the wages and benefits he 
received during his time at the dealership. Baker Motor is also asking 
for unspecified punitive damages and legal fees.





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[MBZ] OT Porch Problems

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

The local Benz stealer also owns the other high-end stores in town.  I'm 
wondering if this guy is related to a guy I know


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 Lawsuit accuses former manager at SC Porsche dealership of taking
 bribes for cars

David Wren dw...@postandcourier.com
3–4 minutes


The owner of a Porsche automobile dealership in Charleston is suing its 
former sales manager over allegations that he required customers to make 
under-the-table payments totaling hundreds of thousands of dollars to 
secure the highly sought after vehicles they wanted to buy.


Baker Motor Co., owner of the Porsche Charleston dealership 
 on Savannah Highway in West Ashley, 
is accusing James Marino of pocketing bribes for high-demand cars since 
at least 2022, according to a lawsuit filed in Charleston County court 
.


Marino has not filed a response to the lawsuit, and he could not be 
reached for comment. A lawyer for Baker Motor Co. did not immediately 
respond to an email seeking further information.


Marino had been sales manager at the dealership for six years before 
being terminated in March after the alleged bribery scheme was 
discovered, according to the lawsuit.



 



The dealership "specializes in selling high-end, luxury Porsche 
automobiles," the lawsuit states, adding the vehicles "are in high 
demand, and there are often numerous potential buyers competing for them."


A report by Road & Track 
 
states the timeline for ordering a Porsche can be as little as three 
months, but "the waitlist for models like the 718 generation Cayman or 
even a 992 generation 911 Carrera S can be years long."


"With nearly every Porsche model in high demand, build allocations are 
highly sought after and the models that aren't spoken for upon dealer 
arrival become highly competitive assets," the magazine stated.



 



The lawsuit states that as sales manager, "Marino had the final say in 
determining which potential buyer would be allowed to purchase these 
high-demand automobiles."


Baker Motor says in court documents that Marino's actions were 
"intentional, willful, wanton, reckless and malicious." The company 
wants a judge to force Marino to repay all of the money he made from the 
alleged scheme as well as all of the wages and benefits he received 
during his time at the dealership. Baker Motor is also asking for 
unspecified punitive damages and legal fees.


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Re: [MBZ] W211 E500 more air suspension questions

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

FCP Euro is wanting $600 each plus $200 core charge.

Rockauto $470 no core charge.

That's a big difference to pay for the lifetime FCP warranty. Are the Arnotts 
pretty reliable?


On Tue, Apr 30, 2024, at 14:52, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> 19yo car, these are maintenance items.  Get some Arnotts and replace 
> them both and not have to worry about it for another 10-20yr
>
> --FT
>
> On 4/30/24 1:19 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> Still have not repaired my air leak, I know I need to do it sooner rather 
>> than later as it's probably stressing the compressor.
>>
>> I have noticed however that the leakdown seems much more pronounced if I 
>> park with the wheels turned. Last night I parked at about 10pm with the 
>> wheels about halfway to the left, and by 8am it was all the way down. But 
>> when I park with the wheels straight it stays up or at least leaks down much 
>> more slowly.
>>
>> Does that more definitively indicate something leaking in the strut? I just 
>> hate to spend the money on new struts if that isn't the problem. I have not 
>> found leaks anywhere using the soapy water test.
>>
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[MBZ] This looks incredibly weird -- 1974 Mercedes-Benz 450SL - $22, 500 (Palm Coast)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Those park benches really do it no good aesthetically

https://daytona.craigslist.org/cto/d/palm-coast-1974-mercedes-benz-450sl/7742114036.html

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Re: [MBZ] W211 E500 more air suspension questions

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

19yo car, these are maintenance items.  Get some Arnotts and replace 
them both and not have to worry about it for another 10-20yr


--FT

On 4/30/24 1:19 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Still have not repaired my air leak, I know I need to do it sooner rather than 
later as it's probably stressing the compressor.

I have noticed however that the leakdown seems much more pronounced if I park 
with the wheels turned. Last night I parked at about 10pm with the wheels about 
halfway to the left, and by 8am it was all the way down. But when I park with 
the wheels straight it stays up or at least leaks down much more slowly.

Does that more definitively indicate something leaking in the strut? I just 
hate to spend the money on new struts if that isn't the problem. I have not 
found leaks anywhere using the soapy water test.

Allan
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[MBZ] W211 E500 more air suspension questions

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Still have not repaired my air leak, I know I need to do it sooner rather than 
later as it's probably stressing the compressor.

I have noticed however that the leakdown seems much more pronounced if I park 
with the wheels turned. Last night I parked at about 10pm with the wheels about 
halfway to the left, and by 8am it was all the way down. But when I park with 
the wheels straight it stays up or at least leaks down much more slowly.

Does that more definitively indicate something leaking in the strut? I just 
hate to spend the money on new struts if that isn't the problem. I have not 
found leaks anywhere using the soapy water test.

Allan
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[MBZ] 2008 Mercedes-Benz $150 CD radio and it works SLK 350,$150

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I want one that doesn't work so I'll have to pass

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Re: [MBZ] Interesting but I think price is too high

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We get that in New England too, especially in the farm county up north.

-Curt

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  On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 7:45 PM, dan penoff.com via 
Mercedes wrote:   I guess a lot of people who haven’t 
grown up in the Midwest don’t understand the thrill of sitting out on the 
(enclosed) porch and watching the whole process of a big storm blowing up. 
Something I never tire of, but don’t see much of anymore, either.

-D

> On Apr 29, 2024, at 9:34 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Two nights ago we had a batch go through. First time in 40+ years I went to 
> bed with a tornado warning underway. 
> Lightning struck a 525kV line tower about 400 yards from the house as we were 
> watching the sideways rain. One kind of forgets how impressive that is. The 
> whole experience was a little overwhelming to my youngest daughter who had 
> never experienced the routine having lived in AZ all her life. 
> I finished all the projects my dad had ready for me (rear brakes on the Ram I 
> traded him, replacing a couple of janky boards on his expansive deck and 
> prepping it for staining, setting a precast concrete stoop off his front 
> porch, fetching and installing a modem for his house), we’ve done the 
> requisite family visits introducing the new granddaughter, so it’s time to 
> fly back to AZ tomorrow. 
> Little Inch is busting some top teeth through so the trip home might be a 
> little fussy. 
> 
> AZBob
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>> On Apr 29, 2024, at 9:21 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Better get out of Caterpillar Land before the next batch of Kaleb’s 
>> windstorms come your way.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 29, 2024, at 5:40 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey, I’m in Peoria right now. We go back to AZ tomorrow.
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Apr 29, 2024, at 7:22 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 A little high but for $4-5k would be a good deal esp if you had a trans 
 to pop in the one that won’t move.
 
 —FT
 
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Re: [MBZ] Looks nice -- 1970 Mercedes-Benz 220d,$9,000

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It wouldn't hurt.  LOL.

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> Would you have to have Dean touch it first?
>
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> > Buy for $7k and then sell on BAT for $12,500.
> >
> >> On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 9:58 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> No idea of what a reasonable price might be
> >>
> >> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/724714333071974
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting but I think price is too high

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I believe I have related this story before about a tornado in maybe 1974 
that went through Indiana and did huge amounts of damage.


I belonged to the flying club at Purdue and there was a deal if you 
washed and waxed an airplane you could get a couple hours of flying time 
for free.  I corralled a buddy who also lived in Fort Wayne, we were HS 
friends and classmates and he would go home with me occasionally, to 
come out and help me do the plane.  The club had its planes at this 
little private airport a bit NE of WLafayette kinda out in the country.  
We were out there one afternoon, I think it was a Sunday doing the 
plane, had washed it outside then pushed it into the hangar to wax it 
out of the sun.  It was a gorgeous spring afternoon.


After awhile maybe around 3ish I noticed the sky was getting a little 
weird, kind of a yellow glow, wind had died down and the insects had 
quit making bug noises.  The guy who owned the airport lived in a little 
house there and had a coupla dogs that were acting kinda weird.  I told 
my buddy we should probably think about going back to campus as I had 
seen this before and had an idea of what was coming.  I had a car at the 
time for a little while that my parents had let me take to school for 
some reason I forget and had driven it to the airport.  Anyway, we got 
in the car and put on the radio and the announcers were all screaming 
about storms and tornadoes so we said we had made a good call. Got about 
halfway back to campus and it started raining so hard we couldn't even 
see out of the windshield.  I pulled over best I could to what I thought 
was the side of the road and stopped. Wind was incredible and we both 
thought we were in the middle of a tornado, the radio was saying there 
was one going through and it was bad.  We were both about as scared as 
20yos can be because it was pretty rough.


After a few minutes the rain and wind stopped and the storm passed on by 
and sun came out, it was weird.  We got back to campus and of course 
everyone in the dorm was talking about it.  There were a couple of 
high-rise dorms maybe 1/4-1/2 mile away from ours that you could see, 
they were all saying the tornado was coming right at one of them but 
passed over at the last second and went up into the cloud then dropped 
down again and headed NE.  Next few days the news was full of reports 
about the storm and tornado and damaged it had caused for like 
20-30miles.  It was crazy.


Next weekend I got my buddy and we took the plane up for a reconnoiter.  
Flew to the SW a bit and found where the ground path had started then 
followed it for the whole path and it was 20-30miles.  Stayed pretty low 
so we could see the damage on the ground.  It had the whole deal -- 2x4s 
through phone poles, the path going between a house and shed or garage 
like a plow had torn up the ground but left everything either side 
completely intact.  The craziest thing was this steel truss bridge over 
the Wabash river had been picked up off its pilings and moved like 100ft 
downstream  and dropped intact in the river.


I remembered really bad tornadoes, Palm Sunday in probably 1965 or 1966 
or so that had even worse devastation. My parents went on a drive to 
oogle the damage and that made an impression on me.  This one was right 
up there.


A couple years later kind of the same situation, one spring afternoon it 
was getting a little weird, tornadoes were around, radio was saying 
there was one to the west.  I was living in this apartment complex at 
the time, my window faced west, I was looking out and shonuff about 
5-10miles away I could see one dancing from a cloud.  I kept an eye on 
it for a bit but it went on north of where I was and I don't think it 
actually did much damage anywhere.  Scary enough though.


We have them here on the Island too, I think a few years back associated 
with one of the hurricanes I had a small one hit right in front of the 
house in the woods, a few days later I noticed a bunch of small trees 
down in a swirl pattern.  A bit later I checked out the recorded radar 
path and it looked like it probably did come right through but here the 
strength was not registering so I guess it was not too strong.  It was 
winding and raining pretty hard at the time in the hurricane so did not 
hear or see it directly.


Be vigilant!

--FT

On 4/29/24 12:54 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

I recall when a tornado went through just south of our first house in
Indiana. As you drove down SR 37 you could see it’s path through the
forests and fields. Like a lawn mower went through and just cleared a
path.

And yes, tonadoes*do*  sound like really loud freight trains.

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Re: [MBZ] Looks nice -- 1970 Mercedes-Benz 220d,$9,000

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Would you have to have Dean touch it first? 

AZBob

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> On Apr 29, 2024, at 12:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> 
> Buy for $7k and then sell on BAT for $12,500.
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 9:58 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> No idea of what a reasonable price might be
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/724714333071974
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting but I think price is too high

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Summers when I worked at FWA I’d stand out on the ramp and watch storms 
building a long ways off. Watched a few ternaders develop and scoot off 
different directions while marveling at nature’s power

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> On Apr 29, 2024, at 12:45 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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> 
> I guess a lot of people who haven’t grown up in the Midwest don’t understand 
> the thrill of sitting out on the (enclosed) porch and watching the whole 
> process of a big storm blowing up. Something I never tire of, but don’t see 
> much of anymore, either.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2024, at 9:34 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Two nights ago we had a batch go through. First time in 40+ years I went to 
>> bed with a tornado warning underway.
>> Lightning struck a 525kV line tower about 400 yards from the house as we 
>> were watching the sideways rain. One kind of forgets how impressive that is. 
>> The whole experience was a little overwhelming to my youngest daughter who 
>> had never experienced the routine having lived in AZ all her life.
>> I finished all the projects my dad had ready for me (rear brakes on the Ram 
>> I traded him, replacing a couple of janky boards on his expansive deck and 
>> prepping it for staining, setting a precast concrete stoop off his front 
>> porch, fetching and installing a modem for his house), we’ve done the 
>> requisite family visits introducing the new granddaughter, so it’s time to 
>> fly back to AZ tomorrow.
>> Little Inch is busting some top teeth through so the trip home might be a 
>> little fussy.
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Apr 29, 2024, at 9:21 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Better get out of Caterpillar Land before the next batch of Kaleb’s 
>>> windstorms come your way.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Apr 29, 2024, at 5:40 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Hey, I’m in Peoria right now. We go back to AZ tomorrow.
 
 AZBob
 
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>> On Apr 29, 2024, at 7:22 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> A little high but for $4-5k would be a good deal esp if you had a trans 
> to pop in the one that won’t move.
> 
> —FT
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Looks nice -- 1970 Mercedes-Benz 220d,$9,000

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Buy for $7k and then sell on BAT for $12,500.

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Re: [MBZ] Interesting but I think price is too high

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He doesn’t need one with the windbreak of the Back 40.

-D

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>> On 29/04/2024 11:51 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
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>>> stores with tornadoes headed our way. A tornado quickly developed and went 
>>> thru a town where I have family. 40 years and 1 day ago, a huge tornado 
>>> blew thru that same town and blew it away. This one was not nearly as bad.  
>>> We didn’t end up with anything but a little wind and rain at Okie acres.
>>> 
>>> 
>> Do you have a storm shelter?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting but I think price is too high

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But it is a 300CD

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Re: [MBZ] Interesting but I think price is too high

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Nope

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> On 29/04/2024 11:51 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
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>> stores with tornadoes headed our way. A tornado quickly developed and went 
>> thru a town where I have family. 40 years and 1 day ago, a huge tornado blew 
>> thru that same town and blew it away. This one was not nearly as bad.  We 
>> didn’t end up with anything but a little wind and rain at Okie acres.
>> 
>> 
> Do you have a storm shelter?
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Re: [MBZ] Interesting but I think price is too high

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I recall when a tornado went through just south of our first house in Indiana. 
As you drove down SR 37 you could see it’s path through the forests and fields. 
Like a lawn mower went through and just cleared a path.

And yes, tonadoes *do* sound like really loud freight trains.

-D

> On Apr 29, 2024, at 9:51 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> We were up at midnight- 1am watching the weather because we had a line of 
> stores with tornadoes headed our way. A tornado quickly developed and went 
> thru a town where I have family. 40 years and 1 day ago, a huge tornado blew 
> thru that same town and blew it away. This one was not nearly as bad.  We 
> didn’t end up with anything but a little wind and rain at Okie acres. 
> 
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>> On Apr 29, 2024, at 11:45 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
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>> I guess a lot of people who haven’t grown up in the Midwest don’t 
>> understand the thrill of sitting out on the (enclosed) porch and watching 
>> the whole process of a big storm blowing up. Something I never tire of, but 
>> don’t see much of anymore, either.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 29, 2024, at 9:34 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Two nights ago we had a batch go through. First time in 40+ years I went to 
>>> bed with a tornado warning underway.
>>> Lightning struck a 525kV line tower about 400 yards from the house as we 
>>> were watching the sideways rain. One kind of forgets how impressive that 
>>> is. The whole experience was a little overwhelming to my youngest daughter 
>>> who had never experienced the routine having lived in AZ all her life.
>>> I finished all the projects my dad had ready for me (rear brakes on the Ram 
>>> I traded him, replacing a couple of janky boards on his expansive deck and 
>>> prepping it for staining, setting a precast concrete stoop off his front 
>>> porch, fetching and installing a modem for his house), we’ve done the 
>>> requisite family visits introducing the new granddaughter, so it’s time to 
>>> fly back to AZ tomorrow.
>>> Little Inch is busting some top teeth through so the trip home might be a 
>>> little fussy.
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Apr 29, 2024, at 9:21 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Better get out of Caterpillar Land before the next batch of Kaleb’s 
 windstorms come your way.
 
 -D
 
> On Apr 29, 2024, at 5:40 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> Hey, I’m in Peoria right now. We go back to AZ tomorrow.
> 
> AZBob
> 
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>>> On Apr 29, 2024, at 7:22 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>> A little high but for $4-5k would be a good deal esp if you had a trans 
>> to pop in the one that won’t move.
>> 
>> —FT
>> 
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 On Apr 28, 2024, at 10:44 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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>>> Sent from my iPhone
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