Re: [MBZ] OT - Sealing Concrete

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

‎http://www.concretenetwork.com/concrete/maintaining/sealingplain.htm

http://www.concretenetwork.com/products-sealer/

http://youtu.be/FbeqnhjRCEw

http://www.kuhlman-corp.com/curing.asp


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sealing Concrete

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I would guess that your floor has a smooth finish on it though where a 
driveway will be a rougher finish.  When I worked at the airport during 
college, one of the newer hangars had a very smooth floor that had 
(probably) an epoxy finish on it too.  We had to mop and buff that thing 
once a week (my boss believed in a VERY clean hangar) and when it was 
wet like that it was extremely slippery too.  Even if we brought in wet 
airplanes, or washed one in the hangar, we had to get out the sqeegees 
and mops and dry everywhere. I remember slipping and sliding on wet 
patches in there if it had not be dried off.  Was somewhat problematic 
moving wet airplanes with the tug too as it would sometimes spin tires 
on the wet and that made for some tricky maneuvering.  Easy to clean oil 
drips though, they just wiped right up.


I worked in another old hangar that had probably been built in the 30s, 
that thing had a very rough concrete floor, actually made it much harder 
to move planes around though one's shoes and the tugs got some good 
traction.  It had a considerable patina, I'm sure from generations of 
big radials dripping oil all over.


--R



On 9/15/15 12:38 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

The concrete floor of my hangar is painted with something (I don't know
what, but B-12 Chemtool dissolves it), but it is SLIPPERY when WET !
Yes, oil, etc. wipes right up without leaving a stain. I bought special New
Balance anti-slip shoes for working our there. They help a lot.

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 11:25 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Quite a few of the retirees, who spend a lot of time keeping their yards
looking beautiful around here, have painted their drives with epoxy. The
white ones are very eye catching.
Sons BIL who formerly lived in Charleston had painted his shop floor with
epoxy. He said oil from his lawn tractor and other equipment was easily
cleaned up with a strong detergent. The floor was spotless when I saw it.
Martha would definitely prefer epoxy.
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sealing Concrete

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I put down Bona wood finish on my floors,  It's a catalyzed water-based 
finish.  I wonder if that might work outside to seal up concrete?  Not 
cheap, like $50 a gallon.


--R


On 9/15/15 12:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Martha has done garage floor epoxy and liked it.  However, painting is a who 
‘nuther matter, not to mention it’s not acceptable in our architectural 
covenants.

Also understand that this is a portion of my driveway, not all of it.  I had 
another “lane”, so to speak, added.  So I have 2/3 old driveway, 1/3 new 
driveway.

I was just looking for some sort of clear sealer that might cut down or prevent 
car drippings from getting into the surface.

Thanks,

Dan





On Sep 15, 2015, at 12:25 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
wrote:

Quite a few of the retirees, who spend a lot of time keeping their yards 
looking beautiful around here, have painted their drives with epoxy. The white 
ones are very eye catching.
Sons BIL who formerly lived in Charleston had painted his shop floor with 
epoxy. He said oil from his lawn tractor and other equipment was easily cleaned 
up with a strong detergent. The floor was spotless when I saw it.
Martha would definitely prefer epoxy.
Gerry

I took a look at Lowe’s this morning and came out totally unimpressed.  The 
selection was marginal at best, and even my go-to product, Thompson’s 
“WaterSeal”, has been compromised into a low VOC concoction that people pretty 
much universally pan in reviews.
I’m just going to leave things as-is for now. I may take this up later when I 
feel the need.
Dan

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sealing Concrete

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Quite a few of the retirees, who spend a lot of time keeping their yards 
looking beautiful around here, have painted their drives with epoxy. The white 
ones are very eye catching. 
Sons BIL who formerly lived in Charleston had painted his shop floor with 
epoxy. He said oil from his lawn tractor and other equipment was easily cleaned 
up with a strong detergent. The floor was spotless when I saw it.
Martha would definitely prefer epoxy.
Gerry
> 
> I took a look at Lowe’s this morning and came out totally unimpressed.  The 
> selection was marginal at best, and even my go-to product, Thompson’s 
> “WaterSeal”, has been compromised into a low VOC concoction that people 
> pretty much universally pan in reviews.
> I’m just going to leave things as-is for now. I may take this up later when I 
> feel the need.
> Dan

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sealing Concrete

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Martha has done garage floor epoxy and liked it.  However, painting is a who 
‘nuther matter, not to mention it’s not acceptable in our architectural 
covenants.

Also understand that this is a portion of my driveway, not all of it.  I had 
another “lane”, so to speak, added.  So I have 2/3 old driveway, 1/3 new 
driveway.

I was just looking for some sort of clear sealer that might cut down or prevent 
car drippings from getting into the surface.

Thanks,

Dan




> On Sep 15, 2015, at 12:25 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Quite a few of the retirees, who spend a lot of time keeping their yards 
> looking beautiful around here, have painted their drives with epoxy. The 
> white ones are very eye catching. 
> Sons BIL who formerly lived in Charleston had painted his shop floor with 
> epoxy. He said oil from his lawn tractor and other equipment was easily 
> cleaned up with a strong detergent. The floor was spotless when I saw it.
> Martha would definitely prefer epoxy.
> Gerry
>> 
>> I took a look at Lowe’s this morning and came out totally unimpressed.  The 
>> selection was marginal at best, and even my go-to product, Thompson’s 
>> “WaterSeal”, has been compromised into a low VOC concoction that people 
>> pretty much universally pan in reviews.
>> I’m just going to leave things as-is for now. I may take this up later when 
>> I feel the need.
>> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sealing Concrete

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

http://www.justanswer.com/home-improvement/6yysk-best-longest-lasting-exterior-concrete-sealer.html

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00494T3AG


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sealing Concrete

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Absolutely not.

I took a look at Lowe’s this morning and came out totally unimpressed.  The 
selection was marginal at best, and even my go-to product, Thompson’s 
“WaterSeal”, has been compromised into a low VOC concoction that people pretty 
much universally pan in reviews.



I’m just going to leave things as-is for now. I may take this up later when I 
feel the need.

Dan



> On Sep 15, 2015, at 10:41 AM, WILTON via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Do you expect to find anybody at Lowe's who knows anything about the products?
> 
> Wilton
> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sealing Concrete

[OK Don via Mercedes]

The concrete floor of my hangar is painted with something (I don't know
what, but B-12 Chemtool dissolves it), but it is SLIPPERY when WET !
Yes, oil, etc. wipes right up without leaving a stain. I bought special New
Balance anti-slip shoes for working our there. They help a lot.

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 11:25 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Quite a few of the retirees, who spend a lot of time keeping their yards
> looking beautiful around here, have painted their drives with epoxy. The
> white ones are very eye catching.
> Sons BIL who formerly lived in Charleston had painted his shop floor with
> epoxy. He said oil from his lawn tractor and other equipment was easily
> cleaned up with a strong detergent. The floor was spotless when I saw it.
> Martha would definitely prefer epoxy.
> Gerry
> >
>
>
> --
>
OK Don

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sealing Concrete

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Thanks, Manfred, I’ll check that out.

I’m only looking for something that will seal it to keep oil and grease from 
staining it.  Fortunately, we don’t have to worry about freezing down here….

Dan


> On Sep 15, 2015, at 9:15 AM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Dan,
> I'm involved right now with painting the outside of my concrete dome. 
> Richards paints has a concrete sealer that they recommend to be used before 
> painting concrete. It is number 1791C, C for clear. I have no idea if it is 
> slippery in the rain as I haven't walked on the dome in the rain and don't 
> intend to. I don't even know if it seals against oil. The guy I talked to 
> said it is supposed to be an acrylic paint that is supposed to sink into the 
> concrete and seal out air so that the final elastomeric paint will do it's 
> job better. We'll see. Anyway you might give them a call and ask about it.
> 
> Richard's Paint Manufacturing Company, Inc.
> 200 Paint Street
> Rockledge, FL 32955
> 
> Phone: 800-432-0983
> 
> Manfred


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sealing Concrete

[MG via Mercedes]

Dan,
I'm involved right now with painting the outside of my concrete 
dome. Richards paints has a concrete sealer that they recommend 
to be used before painting concrete. It is number 1791C, C for 
clear. I have no idea if it is slippery in the rain as I haven't 
walked on the dome in the rain and don't intend to. I don't even 
know if it seals against oil. The guy I talked to said it is 
supposed to be an acrylic paint that is supposed to sink into the 
concrete and seal out air so that the final elastomeric paint 
will do it's job better. We'll see. Anyway you might give them a 
call and ask about it.


Richard's Paint Manufacturing Company, Inc.
200 Paint Street
Rockledge, FL 32955

Phone: 800-432-0983

Manfred

From: Dan Penoff 

The extension of the driveway has passed the 28 day mark, so it?s 
considered cured.


I was thinking about sealing it with something, basically to keep 
nasty stuff out like grease and oil.  No risk of freezing down 
here, so that?s not an issue.


Research I have done indicates that Thompson?s has changed the 
composition of their ?water seal? product, rendering it less than 
useful based on complaints I?m seeing on the Web.


Does anyone have a suggestion for a similar product that I can 
find at my local big box home improvement store?


Thanks,

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sealing Concrete

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Do you expect to find anybody at Lowe's who knows anything about the 
products?


Wilton

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To: "Okie Benz" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: "Dan Penoff" <d...@penoff.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Sealing Concrete


Thanks, I already saw these and read them.  Helpful, but doesn’t really 
say anything about specific products.


I’m going to Lowe’s today and look around.

Dan



On Sep 15, 2015, at 3:24 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


‎http://www.concretenetwork.com/concrete/maintaining/sealingplain.htm

http://www.concretenetwork.com/products-sealer/

http://youtu.be/FbeqnhjRCEw

http://www.kuhlman-corp.com/curing.asp


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sealing Concrete

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On September 14, 2015 at 6:25 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> The extension of the driveway has passed the 28 day mark, so it’s considered
> cured.

I assume you demand a nonzero coefficient of friction in rainy weather?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sealing Concrete

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Of course.

Dan


> On Sep 14, 2015, at 7:25 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I assume you demand a nonzero coefficient of friction in rainy weather?
> 
> Mitch.
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[MBZ] OT - Sealing Concrete

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The extension of the driveway has passed the 28 day mark, so it’s considered 
cured.

I was thinking about sealing it with something, basically to keep nasty stuff 
out like grease and oil.  No risk of freezing down here, so that’s not an issue.

Research I have done indicates that Thompson’s has changed the composition of 
their “water seal” product, rendering it less than useful based on complaints 
I’m seeing on the Web.

Does anyone have a suggestion for a similar product that I can find at my local 
big box home improvement store?

Thanks,

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sealing Concrete

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

There you go, stain the whole thing black, maybe you can market that a 
fortune...
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On September 14, 2015 9:08:26 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Mop the new concrete with the next batch of Diesel drain oil, and
>you'll
>never have to worry about spilled oil on it again.
>
>On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 5:25 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> The extension of the driveway has passed the 28 day mark, so it’s
>> considered cured.
>>
>> I was thinking about sealing it with something, basically to keep
>nasty
>> stuff out like grease and oil.  No risk of freezing down here, so
>that’s
>> not an issue.
>>
>> Research I have done indicates that Thompson’s has changed the
>composition
>> of their “water seal” product, rendering it less than useful based on
>> complaints I’m seeing on the Web.
>>
>> Does anyone have a suggestion for a similar product that I can find
>at my
>> local big box home improvement store?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dan
>>
>
>-- 
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>who
>learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric
>fence
>for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sealing Concrete

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Didn't Grant recently post something for Andrew to seal his grow-shed floor?  
("Seedlings" my a$!, WDC is about to legalize pot, Andrew is getting the inside 
track to fund his retirement).
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On September 14, 2015 6:25:03 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>The extension of the driveway has passed the 28 day mark, so it’s
>considered cured.
>
>I was thinking about sealing it with something, basically to keep nasty
>stuff out like grease and oil.  No risk of freezing down here, so
>that’s not an issue.
>
>Research I have done indicates that Thompson’s has changed the
>composition of their “water seal” product, rendering it less than
>useful based on complaints I’m seeing on the Web.
>
>Does anyone have a suggestion for a similar product that I can find at
>my local big box home improvement store?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dan
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Sealing Concrete

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Mop the new concrete with the next batch of Diesel drain oil, and you'll
never have to worry about spilled oil on it again.

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 5:25 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The extension of the driveway has passed the 28 day mark, so it’s
> considered cured.
>
> I was thinking about sealing it with something, basically to keep nasty
> stuff out like grease and oil.  No risk of freezing down here, so that’s
> not an issue.
>
> Research I have done indicates that Thompson’s has changed the composition
> of their “water seal” product, rendering it less than useful based on
> complaints I’m seeing on the Web.
>
> Does anyone have a suggestion for a similar product that I can find at my
> local big box home improvement store?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan
>

-- 
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