Re: [MBZ] Think the E320 Needed...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yes, this is the 2002 E320 (W210) sedan.

-D

> On Aug 5, 2017, at 3:54 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
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> 
>> On August 5, 2017 at 2:08 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> M112.  V6 with 12 plugs.
> 
> I guess I should have read all the messages before posting. 
> So this is the W210? I was thinking W124, and was slightly confused because I 
> thought a 124 took 6 plugs in the top. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Think the E320 Needed...

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On August 5, 2017 at 2:08 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> M112.  V6 with 12 plugs.

I guess I should have read all the messages before posting. 
So this is the W210? I was thinking W124, and was slightly confused because I 
thought a 124 took 6 plugs in the top. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Think the E320 Needed...

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On August 5, 2017 at 3:46 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
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> 
> Done.  The driver’s side spark plugs were pretty easy, even easier than the 
> passenger side

There's 12 of them?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Think the E320 Needed...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Done.  The driver’s side spark plugs were pretty easy, even easier than the 
passenger side, mainly because having the engine raised up made it possible to 
get directly on them with a socket and not have to worry about universals or 
wobbly extensions.

AC compressor went right back on, took maybe all of five minutes to get it back 
in place and the belt and tensioner back to normal.

The car runs amazingly smooth now.  You can’t even feel the engine at idle.

While this wasn’t a small job, it wasn’t bad.  Glad that I was able to 
incorporate the two jobs together, as it made it a lot easier.

I still have to change the fuel filter, but I’ll do that tomorrow if I feel 
like it.  I’m pretty sure it’s the original as well.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Think the E320 Needed...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

100k.  The plugs in my engine were the original plugs from what I can tell.  I 
have roughly 93k on the clock.

-D


> On Aug 5, 2017, at 2:18 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 14:08:26 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> M112.  V6 with 12 plugs.
> 
> OH! That's a lot of plugs to change! How often do you have to do it?
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Think the E320 Needed...

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 14:08:26 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> M112.  V6 with 12 plugs.

OH! That's a lot of plugs to change! How often do you have to do it?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Think the E320 Needed...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

M112.  V6 with 12 plugs.

-D

> On Aug 5, 2017, at 1:47 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 12:58:34 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> I’ve gotten both mounts swapped and the passenger side spark plugs
>> done.  I haven’t lowered the driver’s side down yet and will be doing
>> that side’s plugs next.
> 
> I take it the engine is a V-6 and not an inline-6 like the M104.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Think the E320 Needed...

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 12:58:34 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I’ve gotten both mounts swapped and the passenger side spark plugs
> done.  I haven’t lowered the driver’s side down yet and will be doing
> that side’s plugs next.

I take it the engine is a V-6 and not an inline-6 like the M104.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Think the E320 Needed...

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

They all droop in the back

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> On Aug 5, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 3/4 of the way done with this job.  Some observations:
> 
> Having the engine up in the air makes removing the spark plugs easy-peasey - 
> at least on the passenger side.  I’ve gotten both mounts swapped and the 
> passenger side spark plugs done.  I haven’t lowered the driver’s side down 
> yet and will be doing that side’s plugs next.
> 
> You definitely have to unbolt the AC compressor to get the driver’s side 
> mount out, but it was amazingly easy.  I haven’t put it back yet as the 
> engine is still lifted up, but it’s close to the mounting points right now, 
> so lining everything up once the engine is lowered shouldn’t be an issue.
> 
> Mounts were definitely worn out.  Here’s a picture of the right side mount 
> with a new mount:
> 
> http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/Photo_dump.html#0
> 
> Despite reports to the contrary, the driver’s side wasn’t bad at all.  Now 
> that I have the little 16mm offset wrench (needed for both sides) it’s just a 
> matter of breaking loose the top bolt which can be unscrewed by hand for the 
> most part.  Lots of gyrations getting the bolt back in, but what I did was 
> get the top bolt and heat shield all lined up and then run the bolt into the 
> top of the mount.  Get everything on the top side tightened up while there’s 
> space, then lower the engine down and the bottom bolt hole lines right up.  
> If you do one side at a time the side that’s anchored maintains the 
> alignment, so you’re not moving the engine around trying to get the holes 
> lined up.
> 
> All in all, not a bad job.  Some brute force and fiddly stuff getting to the 
> top bolts on the mounts, but the rest is pretty straightforward.
> 
> I’m going to head out and finish the plugs on the driver’s side and put 
> everything back together.  That will be the end of major work that’s 
> necessary on this car.  Only thing left to address is the headliner, which is 
> starting to droop in the back…grrr.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2017, at 12:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Let us know the tricks to make it easier
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Think the E320 Needed...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

3/4 of the way done with this job.  Some observations:

Having the engine up in the air makes removing the spark plugs easy-peasey - at 
least on the passenger side.  I’ve gotten both mounts swapped and the passenger 
side spark plugs done.  I haven’t lowered the driver’s side down yet and will 
be doing that side’s plugs next.

You definitely have to unbolt the AC compressor to get the driver’s side mount 
out, but it was amazingly easy.  I haven’t put it back yet as the engine is 
still lifted up, but it’s close to the mounting points right now, so lining 
everything up once the engine is lowered shouldn’t be an issue.

Mounts were definitely worn out.  Here’s a picture of the right side mount with 
a new mount:

http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/Photo_dump.html#0

Despite reports to the contrary, the driver’s side wasn’t bad at all.  Now that 
I have the little 16mm offset wrench (needed for both sides) it’s just a matter 
of breaking loose the top bolt which can be unscrewed by hand for the most 
part.  Lots of gyrations getting the bolt back in, but what I did was get the 
top bolt and heat shield all lined up and then run the bolt into the top of the 
mount.  Get everything on the top side tightened up while there’s space, then 
lower the engine down and the bottom bolt hole lines right up.  If you do one 
side at a time the side that’s anchored maintains the alignment, so you’re not 
moving the engine around trying to get the holes lined up.

All in all, not a bad job.  Some brute force and fiddly stuff getting to the 
top bolts on the mounts, but the rest is pretty straightforward.

I’m going to head out and finish the plugs on the driver’s side and put 
everything back together.  That will be the end of major work that’s necessary 
on this car.  Only thing left to address is the headliner, which is starting to 
droop in the back…grrr.

-D


> On Aug 5, 2017, at 12:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Let us know the tricks to make it easier
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Think the E320 Needed...

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Let us know the tricks to make it easier

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2017, at 10:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Whew!
> 
> Just got the right (easy) side done.  Not pleasant, but at least now I know 
> what I’ve got to do to make the left side easier.  Time for lunch and then 
> heading out to do the left side mount and plugs.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2017, at 9:55 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
>> 
>> ….new motor mounts?
>> 
>> http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/Photo_dump.html#0
>> 
>> Doing the spark plugs while the engine is jacked up.  The plugs appear to be 
>> the originals.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Think the E320 Needed...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Whew!

Just got the right (easy) side done.  Not pleasant, but at least now I know 
what I’ve got to do to make the left side easier.  Time for lunch and then 
heading out to do the left side mount and plugs.

-D


> On Aug 5, 2017, at 9:55 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
> ….new motor mounts?
> 
> http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/Photo_dump.html#0
> 
> Doing the spark plugs while the engine is jacked up.  The plugs appear to be 
> the originals.
> 
> -D


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[MBZ] Think the E320 Needed...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

….new motor mounts?

http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/Photo_dump.html#0

Doing the spark plugs while the engine is jacked up.  The plugs appear to be 
the originals.

-D
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