Randy Bennell wrote:
Any of you folks watch Ice Pilots of the North about Buffalo Airways
out of Yellowknife?
It is amazing that they are still using aircraft that are 70 years old
for commercial purposes in such a difficult and hostile environment.
Did they ever do a 2nd season?
Mitch.
Randy, Mitch.
Ice Pilots NWT just started season 5.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.
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Randy
, November 11, 2013 1:30 PM
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Randy Bennell wrote:
Any of you folks watch Ice Pilots of the North about Buffalo Airways
out of Yellowknife?
It is amazing that they are still using aircraft that are 70 years old
for commercial purposes in such a difficult
With current liability laws and a lawsuit-happy society it is
liability-prohibitive to develop and build a new general aviation aircraft
design. Practically every general aviation commercial aircraft is based on
50-year-old designs.
I once read a speculation that if the Government was in
A new 172 Cessna will now cost you about $500,000 I'm told. 4 place garden
variety, 130 mph airplane.
Government regulations over past 20 years along with OSHA and EPA
compliance has driven up the price while sales have evaporated...
The old airplanes built 50 yrs ago are more rugged by far in
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote:
With current liability laws and a lawsuit-happy society it is
liability-prohibitive to develop and build a new general aviation aircraft
design. Practically every general aviation commercial aircraft is based on
Not true, even Cessna has new designs now (well, they bought them but are
building and selling them now). The TTx is a new, composit single engine
aircraft.
With superior safety and performance engineered into the design DNA of the
aircraft, every inch of the TTx has been meticulously refined for
the time
window for liability.
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On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche
The sport pilot license resulted in a new group of qualified aircraft that
sell in the $100k to $200k range - less than half the cost of a new
standard light aircraft. How that is supposed to help, I don't know. What
it has done is keep old geasers flying who can't (or are afraid they can't)
pass
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Not true, even Cessna has new designs now (well, they bought them but are
building and selling them now). The TTx is a new, composit single
On Nov 11, 2013 9:57 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote:
The aircraft are prohibitively expensive
because of government regulation and liability. How is the number of
pilots
factor in except (maybe) to increase demand which (all things being equal)
also increases price.
No, it
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-Curt
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 19:54:21 -0500
From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
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Try
There is no public folder that I see. Looks like they are either
private or have to be shared which entails inviting users.
--R
On 10/29/13 8:57 PM, Benz Hogs wrote:
That won't work. Put the file in your DB public folder, then right
click on the file and click Copy public link and give us
C:\Users\userID\Dropbox\Public is not a valid location? That's odd.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/75794764/How%20to%20use%20the%20Public%20folder.txt
Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (171,xxx mi)
On 10/30/2013 8:51 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:
There is no public folder that I
In later versions you have the ability to disable the Public folder. That may
be why he doesn't see it.
Just create a new folder, drop the files in it, and click the little link to
copy the link into your paste buffer then paste it in the body of an email to
the list.
Dan
Sent from my iPad
Sorry for the 3 posts, Gmail and Thunderbird freaked out together
Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (171,xxx mi)
On 10/30/2013 11:48 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:
In later versions you have the ability to disable the Public folder. That may
be why he doesn't see it.
Just create a
https://www.dropbox.com/s/je2iy2pwywph0wm/DSC_0463.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9shzrtlrgix4fu6/DSC_0463.jpg
I don't have those choices on my mac but this seems to be about the
closest thing. See if you can see it (one or the other) then I can add
some more.
--R
On 10/30/13 12:44 PM,
That worked. You can also share a folder like:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ffvo40wwkcjfdos/TWAxtMkp_s
Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (171,xxx mi)
On 10/30/2013 12:06 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:
I don't have those choices on my mac but this seems to be about the
closest thing.
On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 13:06:45 -0400 Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/je2iy2pwywph0wm/DSC_0463.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9shzrtlrgix4fu6/DSC_0463.jpg
I don't have those choices on my mac but this seems to be about the
closest thing. See
Don't know how I forgot it, but number two should be the Staggerwing Beech,
D17. A26 might replace the P38 - still undecided.
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 7:54 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
Try inviting mercedes@okiebenz.com and see what happens?
I agree with the SR-71 being the most sexy
I say we take off and nuke the whole site from orbit. It's the only way
to be sure.
Tungsten is what you use -- takes the re-entry heat better. The Rod
from God! Read The Moon is a Harsh Mistress to get a flavor how big
dumb lumps can wreak havoc. If you own the high ground it is pretty
- From: Rich Thomas
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Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 9:44 AM
Subject: [MBZ] OT One for Milt
When I was a kid I remember going to Grissom AFB in Indiana (it was
called something else then, Bunker Hill I
I stand corrected... Tungsten , not Titanium is the material of choice..
Apparently my updated Typo 18.3 did not engage the Old fart forgets to
check, 8.4 feature.
Now, where did I put the app for that... it's laying around here
somewhere.. ;))
In any case, the lawn dart weapon from hell could
My vintage jet favorite is the Valkyrie.
I remember when these were in testing in the 60s. Had the Revelle model.
That was a sexy aircraft. It just looked intimidating.
Dan
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On Oct 28, 2013, at 9:31 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
B-58 Hustler was built in the time
On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 12:44:52 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
My vintage jet favorite is the Valkyrie.
I remember when these were in testing in the 60s. Had the Revelle model.
That was a sexy aircraft. It just looked intimidating.
And just think, all of these were designed with a
Hands down sexiest jet airplane ever built was the SR71, in my book.
Only 36 ever built. Designed and produced in record time without computers
or any of the fancy stuff we have today.. Nothing to date matches it for
speed [and that is still classified ] or altitude [also still classified].
I took a bunch of great pics of the one at the Air Space Museum at
Dulles. Got one as my wallpaper I'm thinking I should send the pic
to Costco to get printed ($18 for a 20x30).
--R
On 10/29/13 2:56 PM, G Mann wrote:
Hands down sexiest jet airplane ever built was the SR71, in my book.
On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:08:05 -0400 Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
I took a bunch of great pics of the one at the Air Space Museum at
Dulles. Got one as my wallpaper I'm thinking I should send the pic
to Costco to get printed ($18 for a 20x30).
How about sending
On 29/10/2013 1:40 PM, Craig wrote:
On Tue, 29 Oct 2013 12:44:52 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
My vintage jet favorite is the Valkyrie.
I remember when these were in testing in the 60s. Had the Revelle model.
That was a sexy aircraft. It just looked intimidating.
And just think,
I am trying to figure out how to make it available in a shared folder on
Dropbox but it looks like I have to invite specific people
--R
On 10/29/13 4:48 PM, Craig wrote:
How about sending it to us so we can admire it, too?
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Try inviting mercedes@okiebenz.com and see what happens?
I agree with the SR-71 being the most sexy aircraft, and thing the F104 is
the second (not to fly, jsut to look at). P51 would be third, and P38
fourth.
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
That won't work. Put the file in your DB public folder, then right
click on the file and click Copy public link and give us the link.
Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (171,xxx mi)
On 10/29/2013 7:54 PM, OK Don wrote:
Try inviting mercedes@okiebenz.com and see what happens?
When I was a kid I remember going to Grissom AFB in Indiana (it was
called something else then, Bunker Hill I think) to an open house day,
and getting to sit in the cockpit of one of these. I had built a
plastic model of it, and thought it was soo cool. These things
were so over the
I used to do work on the flight line and NAV power systems there in the 80s.
There was a refueling squadron based there as well as an A-10 wing that
belonged to the Indiana National Guard.
The A-10 is one ass-kicking aircraft. Got to sit in a cockpit of one once.
Something about that 20mm
Make that 30mm (GAU-8).
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I used to do work on the flight line and NAV power systems
).
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I used to do work on the flight line and NAV power systems there in the 80s
On Mon, 28 Oct 2013 17:40:37 -0400 Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
I heard the other day where the term the whole nine yards came from.
It refers to the length of an ammo belt on some fighter (was it a
Spitfire?) -- when the pilot unloaded the whole thing that was
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Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 9:44 AM
Subject: [MBZ] OT One for Milt
When I was a kid I remember going to Grissom AFB in Indiana (it was
called something else then, Bunker Hill I think) to an open house day,
and getting to sit in the cockpit of one of these. I
--R wrote:
Convair B-58 Hustler Low Level Bombing Capabilities
Not many delta wing aircraft used these days?
Is delta wing used only for supersonic? Was blackbird delta wing?
Interesting video - thanks.
mao
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B-58 Hustler was built in the time frame when Jet A was cheap and nukes had
to be hand delivered. That era passed pretty quickly with the cold war and
the missile silos built all over the place. Then came space with the
capacity to put a nuke in orbit and leave it there, ready to drop on a
Grant wrote:
Then came space with the
capacity to put a nuke in orbit and leave it there, ready to drop on a
moments notice for delivery anywhere on the earth in less time than it
takes to run through the pre-flight checklist on the B-58...
Say it ain't so.
Really - nukes in orbit?
Not REALLY in orbit - merely the capacity/ability to PUT nukes in orbit.
Wilton
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Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 9:58 PM
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Grant wrote
SR-71 blackbird has delta mid-to-aft plus chines up front.
Wilton
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--R wrote:
Convair B-58
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