Re: [MBZ] 124 monovalve variations

2019-12-24 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 25 Dec 2019 04:37:07 + (UTC) Max Dillon wrote: > > The SPDT function seems to be done mechanically in the base. I haven't > taken one apart yet, but I surmise that the solenoid moves a rod that > has two valve seats, which are opposed so that only one can be open at > a time. You

Re: [MBZ] 124 monovalve variations

2019-12-24 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
The SPDT function seems to be done mechanically in the base. I haven't taken one apart yet, but I surmise that the solenoid moves a rod that has two valve seats, which are opposed so that only one can be open at a time. The part is the entire assembly. Only the circulation pump is available

Re: [MBZ] 124 monovalve variations

2019-12-24 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Do you need the heated washer bottle in balmy SC?   My cars never had it.  I had to  make sure to use fluid rated to -40 in the winter.  (Or do without washers.) Could you delete the flow to the washer bottle and use the cheaper valve?   I salvaged a heated 126 washer bottle, but I don't

Re: [MBZ] 124 monovalve variations

2019-12-24 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 24 Dec 2019 17:22:56 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > Craig - your VIN brings up the same $$$ monovalve as my '95 E300. The > Daytona FL dealer I've been using has a list price of $520 for it. > 001-830-40-84 > > 004-830-20-84 seems to be for non-heated washer bottles, and

Re: [MBZ] 124 monovalve variations

2019-12-24 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Craig - your VIN brings up the same $$$ monovalve as my '95 E300. The Daytona FL dealer I've been using has a list price of $520 for it. 001-830-40-84 004-830-20-84 seems to be for non-heated washer bottles, and lists for $153 at same dealer. I'm going to poke around a bit more to see what I

Re: [MBZ] 124 monovalve variations

2019-12-24 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 24 Dec 2019 09:46:43 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > Craig - Send me your VIN so I can see which part number comes up for > your replacement monovalve. More than you wanted ... Craig VIN WDBEB28E1PB934645 1990-1993 300D 2.5 Turbo Chassis Type 124.128 Engine Type

Re: [MBZ] 124 monovalve variations

2019-12-24 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Craig - Send me your VIN so I can see which part number comes up for your replacement monovalve. - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go

Re: [MBZ] 124 monovalve variations

2019-12-24 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
This is different than the 87 -- circ pump is under the washer reservior on that car, monovalve is by the battery. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] 124 monovalve variations

2019-12-24 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Probably. Will have hoses attached. Doesn't look like what I remember from mine, but mine is an 87. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] 124 monovalve variations

2019-12-23 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Monovalve is on the right fender by the battery, it's on the return side of the heater core. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] 124 monovalve variations

2019-12-23 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
My current theory is that the bypass goes with the heated wiper washer fluid bottle. The bypass pipe parts are noted in the EPC to go with the heated bottle. Does anyone have a 124 diesel with no heated wiper washer fluid bottle? I'd like to know if your monovalve set-up includes the heater

Re: [MBZ] 124 monovalve variations

2019-12-22 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Well the mystery deepens. Looking up a generic E300, instead of searching by VIN, a different monovalve comes up, and it is forward compatible with many later cars from 1995 up until 2011, including 210 E300 with OM606, both turbo and non-turbo. Looking at the 124 2.5 models, 1991 used a

Re: [MBZ] 124 monovalve variations

2019-12-22 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Peter, I don't know how a bypass would help that. Maybe it encourages a continuous flow through more of the hoses, keeping them warmer? I'm recalling that Curley's 124 2.5 also has a bypass, I need to see about the cost of that monovalve new and if it could fit my car. Max Dillon Charleston

Re: [MBZ] 124 monovalve variations

2019-12-22 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Since diesels produce very little waste heat at idle, I would suspect that there is a bypass to prevent loss of cabin heat under low load -- the water can cool off enough on the way from the head to the core enough to cause erratic heat. These are luxury cars, people complain of the heat isn't

Re: [MBZ] 124 monovalve variations

2019-12-21 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 21 Dec 2019 08:46:08 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > I compared the '94 gasser monovalve to the '95 E300 monovalve, and the > major difference is that the E300 version has a bypass around the heater > core, so the valve is two-way and either feeds coolant to the heater > core or

Re: [MBZ] 124 monovalve variations

2019-12-21 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 21 Dec 2019 10:26:20 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > Yes, that part is pretty straightforward to design and execute. > > Plumbing the coolant flow is where it gets fun. Oh! Sorry, I did not think of that! > I need a new branch off the coolant circuit on the other side of the

Re: [MBZ] 124 monovalve variations

2019-12-21 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I've always built those out of soldered 1/2" copper fittings.   Made some the first time to send water to the MB heater I installed as a second heater for the frod van.   Last was to replace the crappy prastic Ys for the same purpose in the new dogde van so I don't get F.O.R.D again. Meade

Re: [MBZ] 124 monovalve variations

2019-12-21 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Yes, that part is pretty straightforward to design and execute. Plumbing the coolant flow is where it gets fun. I need a new branch off the coolant circuit on the other side of the existing monovalve for the bypass circuit. Right now that branching occurs in the existing monovalve body. This

Re: [MBZ] 124 monovalve variations

2019-12-21 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 21 Dec 2019 08:46:08 -0500 Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > One way to re-engineer would be replace the $450 valve (two-way) with > two on-off valves, one on the heater core circuit and one on the bypass > circuit, controlled so that either one or the other is open. That > would be a

[MBZ] 124 monovalve variations

2019-12-21 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I compared the '94 gasser monovalve to the '95 E300 monovalve, and the major difference is that the E300 version has a bypass around the heater core, so the valve is two-way and either feeds coolant to the heater core or bypasses the heater core. Gasser has no bypass, so the valve is simple