Be ready to ship one to Andrew.
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'95 E300
On January 7, 2018 9:31:27 AM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
wrote:
>I got plenty of used driers around here already. I am all set.
>
>
>On 1/7/2018 8:30 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> Did you buy that
I got plenty of used driers around here already. I am all set.
On 1/7/2018 8:30 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
Did you buy that used AC drier on eBay? Might need one of those come summer.
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On January 6, 2018 9:07:55 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
wrote:
>Well it was just a used one I had laying around I replaced it with, and
>I just put in another
Exactly my thoughts.
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> On Jan 6, 2018, at 9:01 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> And did you ream the carbon out of the hole? Remove any and all bits of
> metal from the bad one? Excess carbon or a ground short will burn a new one
> up fast.
>
Well it was just a used one I had laying around I replaced it with, and I just
put in another used one so we will see if it lasts.
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> On Jan 6, 2018, at 7:51 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> We'll my Dad taught me that mechanical problems were very rarely
> coinci
And did you ream the carbon out of the hole? Remove any and all bits of metal
from the bad one? Excess carbon or a ground short will burn a new one up fast.
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My point exactly.
Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI
On Jan 6, 2018 8:54 PM, "OK Don via Mercedes" wrote:
> Duh, it was a used plug - - -
>
> On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 6:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > So when it got down to 3 I tried starting the 240d, it w
Duh, it was a used plug - - -
On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 6:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> So when it got down to 3 I tried starting the 240d, it would not start.
> Today it was 40 and it still would not start. It had a dead plug again, it
> was #2, the exact s
We'll my Dad taught me that mechanical problems were very rarely
coincidental. Why did both plugs fail?
Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI
On Jan 6, 2018 7:47 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> So when it got down to 3 I tried starting the 240d, it would not start.
So when it got down to 3 I tried starting the 240d, it would not start. Today
it was 40 and it still would not start. It had a dead plug again, it was #2,
the exact same one I relaxed with a used one before. Quite a coincidence.
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I won't even LOOK at it.
On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Don’t touch it. They degrade from heating and cooling over time, and
> become really brittle. Nearly every one I’ve ever replaced has been
> cracked in the center.
>
> Dan
>
>
> >
uld eventually start...
-Curt
From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2016 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing Update
I haven't needed one in at least 7 years and I drive my 1983 30
Don’t touch it. They degrade from heating and cooling over time, and become
really brittle. Nearly every one I’ve ever replaced has been cracked in the
center.
Dan
> On Oct 4, 2016, at 10:45 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> I haven't needed one in at least 7 years and I dri
x27;t store the spare where it gets hot.
>
> W
>
> - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: "Mercedes List"
> Cc: "Dan Penoff"
> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 7:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ]
Monday, October 03, 2016 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing Update
That is the “strip” fuse, John. Just as described in previous posts.
Replace it and you should be good to go - buy a couple of spares to have
around, too.
Dan
On Oct 3, 2016, at 7:12 PM, John Ingram via
> Curley wrote:
>
> Since the fuse blew, you could still have a grounded GP.
Yup. Or just a "worn" fuse. I have never overloaded one of those
fuses - but I've replace a lot of failed ones.
> Without a meter that has a range of 0-20 or 0-50 ohms or a finer
> scale, or a digital that can read in
>
> Looks like I need to get the relay.
As always, a good resoldering with perhaps a replacement capacitor or two
is all yours probably needs to work like new.
-- Jim
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According to the EPC, an 80-amp fuse is correct for 240Ds with FG numbers after
149279
On Monday, 03 Oct 2016, Curley McLain wrote:
>
>The 80 amp fuse is intended for running 6 glow plugs. It is the WRONG
>fuse. The correct fuse looks the same but will be 50 amp. This was in
>my post yester
Curley is The Last Word
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On 10/3/16 8:33 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
The 80 amp fuse is intended for running 6 glow plugs. It is the WRONG
fuse. The correct fuse looks the same but will be 50 amp. This was
in my post yesterday. Another post yesterday told you the fuse was in
Buy and keep a couple in the glove box.
On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> The 80 amp fuse is intended for running 6 glow plugs. It is the WRONG
> fuse. The correct fuse looks the same but will be 50 amp. This was in my
> post yesterday
e parallel plugs. It took a lng time to heat the
> plugs.
> I made new 10ga wires, ran them in parallel and starting improved
> immensely.
>
> -Curt
>
> From: Dwight Giles via Mercedes
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Dwight Giles
> Sent: Monday, Octob
The 80 amp fuse is intended for running 6 glow plugs. It is the WRONG
fuse. The correct fuse looks the same but will be 50 amp. This was in
my post yesterday. Another post yesterday told you the fuse was in the
top of the relay, under the relay cover, and exactly how to take the
cover off.
roved immensely.
-Curt
From: Dwight Giles via Mercedes
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Dwight Giles
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing
My two had been converted to parallel. 78 had glow button for relay on
firewall
Dwight Giles Jr.
80A. That's what I meant. I think. Whatever it is you can get them at
the stealer, they are (or used to be) pretty cheap. Keep a few in the
glove box along with a screwdriver for any field repairs.
--FT
On 10/3/16 7:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
That is the “strip” fuse, John. Ju
That is the “strip” fuse, John. Just as described in previous posts. Replace
it and you should be good to go - buy a couple of spares to have around, too.
Dan
> On Oct 3, 2016, at 7:12 PM, John Ingram via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
> I went out to the car and searched for the f
Hello Everyone,
I went out to the car and searched for the fuse and finally found it inside the
cover on top of the relay. I hope it is the right fuse because it was blown
and came out in two pieces. It is just a steel band and looks like the fuses
in the on-line websites. The only lettering
My two had been converted to parallel. 78 had glow button for relay on
firewall
Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
On Oct 3, 2016 2:24 PM, "Craig via Mercedes" wrote:
On Sun, 2 Oct 2016 16:44:44 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes
wrote:
> Yes that was my experience in my 78 & 79
On Sun, 2 Oct 2016 16:44:44 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes
wrote:
> Yes that was my experience in my 78 & 79 240D,s. fuse may have been
> over wheel well. Obvious fuse case.
But this is an '83, with parallel glow plugs and the relay on the
left-front fender.
Craig
> On Oct 2, 2016 4:13
No, but I'd guess you can buy a new relay for the price kent wants to
bodge up your car. About $130 for a new one and $30 to 75 for a used
one. Check out ebay You can use a 4 cyl or 5 cyl relay. Just put in
the right fuse.
If you think you want to go the pushbutton relay route, let me kno
Thank you all for the great replies to my questions. I knew I would get the
benefit of all your experience. I will start testing. Since the dashboard
indicator light goes on this indicates the fuse is good. Looks like I need to
get the relay.
There also is the push button relay kit from Merce
Yes that's right
Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
On Oct 2, 2016 5:28 PM, "fmiser via Mercedes" wrote:
> > > John wrote:
> > >
> > > Is there a relay or fuse that is the normal cause for this? If
> > > so, what is it and where is it?
>
> > Floyd wrote:
> >
> > GP fuse -- if it
Of
Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2016 4:13 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Floyd Thursby
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing
GP fuse -- if it is like my 300TD it is on the firewall in a little covered
holder, it
is a 20A strip fuse about 2in long and screws onto
I made one correction to Philip's post below. What he said, plus a
couple of clarifications. Batter voltage should be battery voltage.
1. 240D GP fuse is NOT 20A. It is 50 Amp. You can find them at VW
stealers if FLAPS does not have one for you. 5 cyl engines use a
bigger one, 60 or 65
I was thinking I have seen ones that are different amperage ratings - the strip
is wider or narrower depending on the size. They’re the same length, however.
Dan
> On Oct 2, 2016, at 5:26 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Mine were big in size. 1 1/2"?
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> 1982
> > John wrote:
> >
> > Is there a relay or fuse that is the normal cause for this? If
> > so, what is it and where is it?
> Floyd wrote:
>
> GP fuse -- if it is like my 300TD it is on the firewall in a
> little covered holder, it is a 20A strip fuse about 2in long and
> screws onto the contact
> John wrote:
>
> When I turn the key on my ’83 240D the glow plug light goes on as
> usual but it does not go off after 10 seconds or so as it used
> to. When I turn over the engine it doesn’t even try to start.
> It seems that the glow plugs never turned on. Is there a relay
> or fuse that is
Mine were big in size. 1 1/2"?
Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
On Oct 2, 2016 5:22 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes"
wrote:
> Are they 20A? I thought they were bigger than that. Although I believe
> there are different ones, too.
>
> Dan
>
> > On Oct 2, 2016, at 4:44 PM, Dwight
Are they 20A? I thought they were bigger than that. Although I believe there
are different ones, too.
Dan
> On Oct 2, 2016, at 4:44 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Yes that was my experience in my 78 & 79 240D,s. fuse may have been over
> wheel well. Obvious fuse case.
>
> Dwig
Yes that was my experience in my 78 & 79 240D,s. fuse may have been over
wheel well. Obvious fuse case.
Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
On Oct 2, 2016 4:13 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes"
wrote:
GP fuse -- if it is like my 300TD it is on the firewall in a little covered
hold
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> Cc: Floyd Thursby
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Glow Plugs not Glowing
>
> GP fuse -- if it is like my 300TD it is on the firewall in a little covered
> holder, it
> is a 20A strip fuse about 2in long and screws onto the contacts. They cost
> like
> a
GP fuse -- if it is like my 300TD it is on the firewall in a little
covered holder, it is a 20A strip fuse about 2in long and screws onto
the contacts. They cost like a dollar, buy a couple to keep in the car.
Glow plug relay could be bad too (I'm guessing this car has a relay) but
the fuse i
Hello Everyone,
When I turn the key on my ’83 240D the glow plug light goes on as usual but it
does not go off after 10 seconds or so as it used to. When I turn over the
engine it doesn’t even try to start. It seems that the glow plugs never turned
on. Is there a relay or fuse that is the no
x27;s not the case any more.
Richard
--- On Fri, 10/2/09, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
> From: Dimitri Seretakis
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D glow plugs
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
> Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 5:42 PM
> Also I forgot to mention that the
> glow lig
he top,
and 0 volts at the bottom tells me it's not good.
IMPORTANT Dislcaimer: That is making the assumption that the voltage at the
plugs was measured during the glow cycle, not just at any random ole time.
Richard
--- On Fri, 10/2/09, Mitch Haley wrote:
From: Mitch Haley
Sub
.
IMPORTANT Dislcaimer: That is making the assumption that the voltage at the
plugs was measured during the glow cycle, not just at any random ole time.
Richard
--- On Fri, 10/2/09, Mitch Haley wrote:
> From: Mitch Haley
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D glow plugs
> To: "Mercedes Discus
the fuse.
I seem to remember about 10-11 volts at the plugs when the cycle was running,
with all the drops etc thru the glow relay.
Richard
--- On Fri, 10/2/09, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
> From: Dimitri Seretakis
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D glow plugs
> To: "Mercedes Discussion
I wonder if one of the plugs has a dead short?
If the strip fuse has no load running through it, it could show no voltage drop
but still be bad under load.
Mitch.
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riday, October 02, 2009 12:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D glow plugs
Can that 60 amp fuse be tested? I put a voltmeter across the fuse and
got nothing but when I put voltmeter on either side of the fuse to
ground then I got 12V. As far as glow plugs I did as Loren suggeste
ck.
Richard
--- On Fri, 10/2/09, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
From: Dimitri Seretakis
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D glow plugs
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 3:20 PM
Is the 60 amp fuse the one that looks
like a metal strip screwed in at both ends?
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Subject: [MBZ] 240D glow plugs
I don't think the glow plugs on my 82 240D are working. I'm not
familiar with this in parallel system, just the old 220D in series
system. Anyway, I turned
lurb years ago, and it's been posted all over the
net .. http://w123gassers.smfforfree2.com/index.php?topic=172.0 is one posting.
Maybe it will be of some help.
You're on the right track.
Richard
--- On Fri, 10/2/09, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
> From: Dimitri Seretakis
> Su
Yes - and it can look good in place, and be bad.
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
> Is the 60 amp fuse the one that looks like a metal strip screwed in at both
> ends?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 2, 2009, at 11:07 AM, Loren Faeth wrote:
>
> You almost had it.
>
>
Is the 60 amp fuse the one that looks like a metal strip screwed in at both
ends?
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On Oct 2, 2009, at 11:07 AM, Loren Faeth wrote:
You almost had it.
Take the plug off the relay ,and test the G1-G4 points in the plug to ground.
SHould be 1.4-1.7 ohms. High resistance, in
You almost had it.
Take the plug off the relay ,and test the G1-G4 points in the plug to
ground. SHould be 1.4-1.7 ohms. High resistance, indicates open
circuit, and bad plug. Lower resistance indicates a ground short,
and a bad plug.
If they all went out at once, and the resistance is in
I don't think the glow plugs on my 82 240D are working. I'm not familiar with
this in parallel system, just the old 220D in series system. Anyway, I turned
the key to glow position and hooked a voltmeter from the glow plugs (where wire
attaches to plug) to ground on all plugs and got nothing.
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