Re: [MBZ] 603 IP oil seals
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, sounds good. I take it the 602 and 603 pumps are pretty similar (modulo number of cylinders). So there are no hidden gotchas and I can hopefully just unbolt the plate and slap a new seal in there. What I was afraid of, of course, was having to take the IP off, or otherwise disturbing the thing's innards and making it necessary for it to be retimed. If anyone's interested here's two posts from the other forums (what other forums?) on the subject. http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php?p=1767696 http://mbca.cartama.net/showthread.php?t=24554 I love jobs where people say You need to stand on your head and have a set of offset ratcheting veeblefetzers and SPIDER MONKEY SIZE HANDS if you want to have a CHANCE to get the inside back corner screw off! I consider that a challenge. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 IP oil seals
Personally, I'd just remove the pump, 'cause working on that side of the engine is just plain icky. I can remove the pump in less than an hour. The large o-ring from an OM617 oil filter housing will function quite well as the bottom plate gasket. On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, sounds good. I take it the 602 and 603 pumps are pretty similar (modulo number of cylinders). So there are no hidden gotchas and I can hopefully just unbolt the plate and slap a new seal in there. What I was afraid of, of course, was having to take the IP off, or otherwise disturbing the thing's innards and making it necessary for it to be retimed. If anyone's interested here's two posts from the other forums (what other forums?) on the subject. http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php?p=1767696 http://mbca.cartama.net/showthread.php?t=24554 I love jobs where people say You need to stand on your head and have a set of offset ratcheting veeblefetzers and SPIDER MONKEY SIZE HANDS if you want to have a CHANCE to get the inside back corner screw off! I consider that a challenge. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 IP oil seals
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I'd just remove the pump, 'cause working on that side of the engine is just plain icky. I can remove the pump in less than an hour. Including removing the vacuum pump first? I had to replace mine and didn't enjoy it one bit. Plus I don't know what I did with the basket---can I get a new one to put on while the IP is off, I wonder? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 603 IP oil seals
How hard is it to change the seals on the 603 injection pump? Not the ones on the injector lines that keep fuel in, but the big ones that keep the oil in. I've had a persistent oil leak down the side of my IP for a year or so. Changed the O-ring on the shutoff lever (thanks, $3.99 Harbor Freight metric nitrile O-ring assortment!) but that only reduced the leak, didn't eliminate it. Now I think I've identified the main leak point as coming from the outer edge of the bottom plate. I figure there must be a gasket or seal around the edge, though I can't see anything. Can I take off the bottom plate with the pump in place, or does it have to come off of the engine (yikes!)? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 IP oil seals
Can I take off the bottom plate with the pump in place, or does it have to come off of the engine (yikes!)? If you can get at it, you can take it off. See my (not complete) story on my 602 pump sealing job. http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mb190d.html#ipseal -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 IP oil seals
On Feb 20, 2008 9:51 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can I take off the bottom plate with the pump in place, or does it have to come off of the engine (yikes!)? If you can get at it, you can take it off. See my (not complete) story on my 602 pump sealing job. http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mb190d.html#ipseal OK, sounds good. I take it the 602 and 603 pumps are pretty similar (modulo number of cylinders). So there are no hidden gotchas and I can hopefully just unbolt the plate and slap a new seal in there. What I was afraid of, of course, was having to take the IP off, or otherwise disturbing the thing's innards and making it necessary for it to be retimed. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com