[MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-19 Thread Wilton Strickland
How is the OVP mounted. Does it simply plug into a fixed base receptacle, or what? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-19 Thread Jim Cathey
How is the OVP mounted. Does it simply plug into a fixed base receptacle, or what? In my 126, yes. Right next to the Klima, near the fuse box. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For

[MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-19 Thread Wilton Strickland
Ordered OVP from Rusty yesterday afternoon; at my front door late this morning. Thanks. Wife out somewhere with the car. 'Hope both are ok. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-19 Thread Wilton Strickland
on edge of the plug with flat screwdriver got it started. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac How is the OVP mounted. Does it simply plug

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-18 Thread Luther
Could this be why my SDL likes to shudder when I drop the car to idle from a higher RPM? The RPM will drop below 500 and rise back up to the set 700 rpm. I've tried adjusting the RPM control behind the fusebox, and it doesn't change. Luther On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:04:36 -0500, dave walton

[MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-18 Thread Wilton Strickland
You guys were right, of course, on location of the OVP. 'Sitting right up there just inboard of the brake booster. 'Ordered one from Rusty this morning. I may do an autopsy on the old one. Thanks, again. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts

[MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-17 Thread Wilton Strickland
'Drove the 126 coupla miles this morning. Tac went to 0 for minute or so again; all other instruments remained normal. So is this an overvolt relay prob? BTW, what does overvolt relay do? 'Sounds like it's supposed to protect some system from an overvolt situation. So is there a prob with the

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-17 Thread dave walton
The tachometer signal goes through the overvoltage relay - at least it does on my 87SDL. That is the limit of my knowledge. I'm hoping others will chime in to paint the bigger picture and fill in the details. I am curious why the overvoltage relay needs a tach signal and what it does with it.

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-17 Thread Jim Cathey
BTW, what does overvolt relay do? 'Sounds like it's supposed to protect some system from an overvolt situation. Exactly. As power to many of the more electronically-filled items goes _through_ the OVP relay, and as the OVP gets flakey inside, you can have problems with any/all of these

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-17 Thread Wilton Strickland
So the prob IS the OVP, then, right? Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac BTW, what does overvolt relay do? 'Sounds like it's supposed

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
think I told you that several days ago Wilton Strickland wrote: So the prob IS the OVP, then, right? Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-17 Thread Jim Cathey
The tachometer signal goes through the overvoltage relay - at least it does on my 87SDL. That is the limit of my knowledge. I'm hoping others will chime in to paint the bigger picture and fill in the details. I am curious why the overvoltage relay needs a tach signal and what it does with it.

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-17 Thread Jim Cathey
So the prob IS the OVP, then, right? Maybe. It's certainly a prime suspect, if other things (such as ABS and the airbag system) are also acting up. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-17 Thread Wilton Strickland
PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac think I told you that several days ago Wilton Strickland wrote: So the prob IS the OVP, then, right? Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey

[MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-17 Thread Wilton Strickland
Kaleb, I just noticed I spelled your name with an i. 'Sorry. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-17 Thread dave walton
If it helps - when my overvoltage relay was acting up the tach went to zero and the ABS light came on. Other than that things were normal. -Dave Walton On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The tachometer signal goes through the overvoltage relay - at least it

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-17 Thread dave walton
Oh - one more thing.. The idle speed changed when it kicked in or out. Don't recall which was a higher rpm. If you were stopped at a light with the brake on when it changed, you could feel the car hunkering down or releasing a bit as the engine put more or less umph to the transmission. HTH

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-17 Thread Jim Cathey
Oh - one more thing.. The idle speed changed when it kicked in or out. Don't recall which was a higher rpm. It would have gone higher during the malfunction. The car's set to idle very high as a fail-safe, and the idle control system (powered through the OVP) drags it down to where it should

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-17 Thread Peter Frederick
That's exactly what it does -- it conditions the current for the engine controls and the tach signal is from the crank position sensor, so if it's intermittant, the usual failure mode, the tach signal will vanish as the electronics switch off. Your idle will go to the mechanical stop at

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-17 Thread Wilton Strickland
, 2008 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac That's exactly what it does -- it conditions the current for the engine controls and the tach signal is from the crank position sensor, so if it's intermittant, the usual failure mode, the tach signal will vanish as the electronics switch off. Your

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-14 Thread dave walton
I recently had a problem on an 87SDL where the Tachometer worked intermittently for several weeks, then failed completely. Resistance across pins 12 on the Klima (Kilma) relay socket was ~ 9k ohms - so the wires to the engine speed sensor were probably okay. Swapping the overvoltage relay fixed

[MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-13 Thread Wilton Strickland
'Bout an hour ago while at about 30 mph in the 350SDL, a needle flicker on the instrument panel suddenly cought my eye. The tac had gone to 0! Air speed was stilI good at 30; engine response good - still plenty of power, but tac was at 0. After coupla minutes, tac suddenly jumped back up to

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-13 Thread Mitch Haley
Wilton Strickland wrote: Tips? Drive it 'til the 300D is mobile again. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-13 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Hi Wilton, When was the last fuse replacement? Memory might be wrong, but I recall that was the cause for tach failure on my 300SD... Take care, Chuck To remember Marshall.. Change ALL fuses out every 10 years! On Jun 13, 2008, at 8:07 AM, Wilton Strickland wrote: 'Bout an hour ago

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-13 Thread Wilton Strickland
My first thought. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac Wilton Strickland wrote: Tips? Drive it 'til the 300D is mobile again

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-13 Thread Peter Frederick
Replace the instrument fuse (especially if your oil pressure dropped to zero at the same time) and the OVP relay. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL tac

2008-06-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
overvoltage relay Wilton Strickland wrote: 'Bout an hour ago while at about 30 mph in the 350SDL, a needle flicker on the instrument panel suddenly cought my eye. The tac had gone to 0! Air speed was stilI good at 30; engine response good - still plenty of power, but tac was at 0. After