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Hey Gary, Here's an article for you (or anyone else that needs to get healthier) that's pretty good. http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=226887 I follow this guy's posts regularly. He is more of an economist than health guy, but he makes good points on most subjects he writes on. Rick Knoble Sent from My Samsung tablet Original message From Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com Date: 12/16/2013 10:00 PM (GMT-06:00) To Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty i guess i'm interested enough in you to be interested in things that matter about you On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.comwrote: On Dec 16, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: you a grain guy or more a paleo meat kinda guy? Paleo, I 'spose. Why? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Dec 16, 2013 8:59 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: do i even like this guy? i think i ought to like him if i'm going to support him for such a position Why would you? This is the same Peter who wants to enact punitive taxes on private car ownership -- the latter being the reason we're all on this list -- as social engineering to encourage the development of nationwide high-speed rail. He's a victim of the delusion all too common to the scientifically and technically minded, that social and political problems admit to easy, logical solutions, and that the best people to decide and enact those solutions are those same scientists. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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eh, i find karl an insufferable blowhard, always screaming on how everyone he doesn't agree with needs to be tried for treason you can keep him :) On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 11:09 AM, rickknoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: Hey Gary, Here's an article for you (or anyone else that needs to get healthier) that's pretty good. http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=226887 I follow this guy's posts regularly. He is more of an economist than health guy, but he makes good points on most subjects he writes on. Rick Knoble Sent from My Samsung tablet Original message From Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com Date: 12/16/2013 10:00 PM (GMT-06:00) To Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty i guess i'm interested enough in you to be interested in things that matter about you On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Dec 16, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: you a grain guy or more a paleo meat kinda guy? Paleo, I 'spose. Why? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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you make a very compelling point here, alex, with a line of reasoning that i'm quite sympathetic to On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Dec 16, 2013 8:59 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: do i even like this guy? i think i ought to like him if i'm going to support him for such a position Why would you? This is the same Peter who wants to enact punitive taxes on private car ownership -- the latter being the reason we're all on this list -- as social engineering to encourage the development of nationwide high-speed rail. He's a victim of the delusion all too common to the scientifically and technically minded, that social and political problems admit to easy, logical solutions, and that the best people to decide and enact those solutions are those same scientists. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Peter Frederick wrote: Not to say I told you so, but the Reagan Revolution was only a revolution in the same way the engine rotation is a revolution -- the whole idea was to undo the banking regulation and tax system that had protected us from market and banking collapses that happened every couple years before the 1911 Federal Reserve creation and Anti--Trust laws. None of which happened in the 1980s, of course. It took another ten years for that. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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but it does get the rich super richer and gets more people into the super rich. basically it has destroyed the US economy forever so a few more people can have mansions and yachts. the tricky question for me is how do the corporations and wall street continue to rake is in the insane money when the rest of the USA is just one massive detroit? do they need to the USA to survive? On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: Not to say I told you so, but the Reagan Revolution was only a revolution in the same way the engine rotation is a revolution -- the whole idea was to undo the banking regulation and tax system that had protected us from market and banking collapses that happened every couple years before the 1911 Federal Reserve creation and Anti--Trust laws. Obvious then, obvious now, and unregulated capitalism (really unbridled speculation) breeds depressions and currency collapse like cold fronts breed storms. Markets are just people buying and selling, and they don't filter out lies, misrepresentation, or fraud, quite the opposite. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The rich can get richer only so long as they can screw money out of the banking system and manipulate stock prices for excessive gain. Once that runs dry it will be tulip bulbs all over again. We have had a hollow economy since Reagan was elected, with the expected (and widely predicted) results. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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see, this is what i'm wondering about. the USA is pretty much sucked dry yet corporate profits and stock prices are at a record high. maybe there is a message here that they can do it without the USA? y'know, sell KFC to the chinese and just keep the USA as a military and service slave class there is a real disconnect between wall street's rosy recovery and life as it is lived in much of the USA, so much so that it's hard to believe that both are true at the same time On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: The rich can get richer only so long as they can screw money out of the banking system and manipulate stock prices for excessive gain. Once that runs dry it will be tulip bulbs all over again. We have had a hollow economy since Reagan was elected, with the expected (and widely predicted) results. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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cf. quantitative easing --R On 12/16/13 8:51 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: see, this is what i'm wondering about. the USA is pretty much sucked dry yet corporate profits and stock prices are at a record high. maybe there is a message here that they can do it without the USA? y'know, sell KFC to the chinese and just keep the USA as a military and service slave class there is a real disconnect between wall street's rosy recovery and life as it is lived in much of the USA, so much so that it's hard to believe that both are true at the same time On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: The rich can get richer only so long as they can screw money out of the banking system and manipulate stock prices for excessive gain. Once that runs dry it will be tulip bulbs all over again. We have had a hollow economy since Reagan was elected, with the expected (and widely predicted) results. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 08:56:00 -0500 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: cf. quantitative easing In other words, printing money out of thin air and debasing the currency. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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which lasts for how much longer before the bottom falls out? can we just forever put a gun in everyone's ear and tell them they can only buy oil with the greenback dollar? On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 08:56:00 -0500 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: cf. quantitative easing In other words, printing money out of thin air and debasing the currency. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Better than a major depression, but the Fed has taken the wrong approach here. Low interest rates work when the money is used to build factories and employ people. Since we de-industrialized starting in the 70's, low interest rates just produce churn in the stock and bond markets and result in rent seeking, neither of which does squat for the real economy. The Fed should have make low interest rate bonds available ONLY for infrastructure and employment purposes, no investment allowed. This is the same problem with the dive in rates to fix the recession in 2001 which was strictly a market panic and should have been fixed by a couple day cooling off period on the stock exchanges. A small tax on financial transactions to kill off the 0.001% profit margin high speed trading would help here as well (I vote for a 2% excise tax myself) -- 99% of the trading on Wall Street would vanish and I suspect stock prices would quickly adjust to reflect the actual value of the companies issuing them instead of what speculators can pump them up to before they dump them. No mergers and acquisitions using borrowed money would be a good thing too, same as outlawing the practice of hedge funds loading up companies with huge amounts of debt and then killing them for a profit. Needless to say, I'm only a lone voice howling in the wilderness. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So Dodd Frank is Reagan's fault? Peter Frederick wrote: Not to say I told you so, but the Reagan Revolution was only a revolution in the same way the engine rotation is a revolution -- the whole idea was to undo the banking regulation and tax system that had protected us from market and banking collapses that happened every couple years before the 1911 Federal Reserve creation and Anti--Trust laws. None of which happened in the 1980s, of course. It took another ten years for that. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Dieselhead wrote: So Dodd Frank is Reagan's fault? No, no, the Dems are taking credit for Dodd-Frank as the cure-all for G-L-B. It's Gramm–Leach–Bliley that's all Reagan's fault, despite the fact that William Jefferson Clinton signed it into law in 1999. While Dem supporters all seem to be in agreement with the idea that everything wrong is Bush II's fault after five years of Obama while everything right is because of Obama, Peter's the only one I know who is so far distanced from reality that he claims everything wrong under the Obama administration is because Reagan beat Carter in 1980. OTOH, as long as Peter is this list's #1 contributor of mechanical knowledge on W123, 124, 126 and 201 chassis, we can afford to cut him some slack here. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Dec 16, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: can we just forever put a gun in everyone's ear and tell them they can only buy oil with the greenback dollar? Well we invaded Iraq for not doing that. We invaded Libya for not doing that. We will probably invade Iran for not doing that. Oh, and it's not just a gun. The USA is the only country to utilize nuclear weapons in a war. Rick Done with world politics for now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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at least we invaded afghanistan for a good reason -- cheap heroin for the war on drugs On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Dec 16, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: can we just forever put a gun in everyone's ear and tell them they can only buy oil with the greenback dollar? Well we invaded Iraq for not doing that. We invaded Libya for not doing that. We will probably invade Iran for not doing that. Oh, and it's not just a gun. The USA is the only country to utilize nuclear weapons in a war. Rick Done with world politics for now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Dec 16, 2013, at 12:32 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: at least we invaded afghanistan for a good reason -- cheap heroin for the war on drugs And Pipe-line-a-Stan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Afghanistan_Pipeline But some think not. http://www.911myths.com/html/9_11_and_the_afghan_pipeline.html Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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you a grain guy or more a paleo meat kinda guy? On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On Dec 16, 2013, at 12:32 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: at least we invaded afghanistan for a good reason -- cheap heroin for the war on drugs And Pipe-line-a-Stan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Afghanistan_Pipeline But some think not. http://www.911myths.com/html/9_11_and_the_afghan_pipeline.html Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Dec 16, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: you a grain guy or more a paleo meat kinda guy? Paleo, I 'spose. Why? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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i guess i'm interested enough in you to be interested in things that matter about you On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.comwrote: On Dec 16, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: you a grain guy or more a paleo meat kinda guy? Paleo, I 'spose. Why? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I vote for Peter for president -- On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: Better than a major depression, but the Fed has taken the wrong approach here. Low interest rates work when the money is used to build factories and employ people. Since we de-industrialized starting in the 70's, low interest rates just produce churn in the stock and bond markets and result in rent seeking, neither of which does squat for the real economy. The Fed should have make low interest rate bonds available ONLY for infrastructure and employment purposes, no investment allowed. This is the same problem with the dive in rates to fix the recession in 2001 which was strictly a market panic and should have been fixed by a couple day cooling off period on the stock exchanges. A small tax on financial transactions to kill off the 0.001% profit margin high speed trading would help here as well (I vote for a 2% excise tax myself) -- 99% of the trading on Wall Street would vanish and I suspect stock prices would quickly adjust to reflect the actual value of the companies issuing them instead of what speculators can pump them up to before they dump them. No mergers and acquisitions using borrowed money would be a good thing too, same as outlawing the practice of hedge funds loading up companies with huge amounts of debt and then killing them for a profit. Needless to say, I'm only a lone voice howling in the wilderness. Peter -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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president of kleblist? On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 11:33 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I vote for Peter for president -- On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Better than a major depression, but the Fed has taken the wrong approach here. Low interest rates work when the money is used to build factories and employ people. Since we de-industrialized starting in the 70's, low interest rates just produce churn in the stock and bond markets and result in rent seeking, neither of which does squat for the real economy. The Fed should have make low interest rate bonds available ONLY for infrastructure and employment purposes, no investment allowed. This is the same problem with the dive in rates to fix the recession in 2001 which was strictly a market panic and should have been fixed by a couple day cooling off period on the stock exchanges. A small tax on financial transactions to kill off the 0.001% profit margin high speed trading would help here as well (I vote for a 2% excise tax myself) -- 99% of the trading on Wall Street would vanish and I suspect stock prices would quickly adjust to reflect the actual value of the companies issuing them instead of what speculators can pump them up to before they dump them. No mergers and acquisitions using borrowed money would be a good thing too, same as outlawing the practice of hedge funds loading up companies with huge amounts of debt and then killing them for a profit. Needless to say, I'm only a lone voice howling in the wilderness. Peter -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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President of the world. On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: president of kleblist? On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 11:33 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I vote for Peter for president -- On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Better than a major depression, but the Fed has taken the wrong approach here. Low interest rates work when the money is used to build factories and employ people. Since we de-industrialized starting in the 70's, low interest rates just produce churn in the stock and bond markets and result in rent seeking, neither of which does squat for the real economy. The Fed should have make low interest rate bonds available ONLY for infrastructure and employment purposes, no investment allowed. This is the same problem with the dive in rates to fix the recession in 2001 which was strictly a market panic and should have been fixed by a couple day cooling off period on the stock exchanges. A small tax on financial transactions to kill off the 0.001% profit margin high speed trading would help here as well (I vote for a 2% excise tax myself) -- 99% of the trading on Wall Street would vanish and I suspect stock prices would quickly adjust to reflect the actual value of the companies issuing them instead of what speculators can pump them up to before they dump them. No mergers and acquisitions using borrowed money would be a good thing too, same as outlawing the practice of hedge funds loading up companies with huge amounts of debt and then killing them for a profit. Needless to say, I'm only a lone voice howling in the wilderness. Peter -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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do i even like this guy? i think i ought to like him if i'm going to support him for such a position On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 11:44 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: President of the world. On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: president of kleblist? On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 11:33 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I vote for Peter for president -- On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Better than a major depression, but the Fed has taken the wrong approach here. Low interest rates work when the money is used to build factories and employ people. Since we de-industrialized starting in the 70's, low interest rates just produce churn in the stock and bond markets and result in rent seeking, neither of which does squat for the real economy. The Fed should have make low interest rate bonds available ONLY for infrastructure and employment purposes, no investment allowed. This is the same problem with the dive in rates to fix the recession in 2001 which was strictly a market panic and should have been fixed by a couple day cooling off period on the stock exchanges. A small tax on financial transactions to kill off the 0.001% profit margin high speed trading would help here as well (I vote for a 2% excise tax myself) -- 99% of the trading on Wall Street would vanish and I suspect stock prices would quickly adjust to reflect the actual value of the companies issuing them instead of what speculators can pump them up to before they dump them. No mergers and acquisitions using borrowed money would be a good thing too, same as outlawing the practice of hedge funds loading up companies with huge amounts of debt and then killing them for a profit. Needless to say, I'm only a lone voice howling in the wilderness. Peter -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Wall Street is hot only because that's the only place to store money where it might keep up with inflation. It gas become a bubble, IMO. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 11:15 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty Better than a major depression, but the Fed has taken the wrong approach here. Low interest rates work when the money is used to build factories and employ people. Since we de-industrialized starting in the 70's, low interest rates just produce churn in the stock and bond markets and result in rent seeking, neither of which does squat for the real economy. The Fed should have make low interest rate bonds available ONLY for infrastructure and employment purposes, no investment allowed. This is the same problem with the dive in rates to fix the recession in 2001 which was strictly a market panic and should have been fixed by a couple day cooling off period on the stock exchanges. A small tax on financial transactions to kill off the 0.001% profit margin high speed trading would help here as well (I vote for a 2% excise tax myself) -- 99% of the trading on Wall Street would vanish and I suspect stock prices would quickly adjust to reflect the actual value of the companies issuing them instead of what speculators can pump them up to before they dump them. No mergers and acquisitions using borrowed money would be a good thing too, same as outlawing the practice of hedge funds loading up companies with huge amounts of debt and then killing them for a profit. Needless to say, I'm only a lone voice howling in the wilderness. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Did they drive a dark blue SD on Rogers to get there? I was driving the invisible van to take the children someplace and noticed there was an alien on the road. (Is it bad that, after living here 5 months, I only know 30% of the neighbors, but I recognize all the local adult European cars?) Anyway hope everything is healing nicely, congrats on the graduation, and I hope you have a pleasant trip home. :) Best, Tim On Dec 14, 2013 11:06 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: So the girl and Dr. Mom went to the UNC ER last night @ 8:30PM and got back @ 6AM after finally getting the alternator laceration stitched up by the 3rd doc to deal with it. The first, an intern, was lost, the second, a resident cleaned it up, and finally a real doc came and stitched it. 9.5 hours. Cheapchineechit casualty. Happy graduation evening! #drugs --R (sent from my miniPad) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No it was the ivory Mamabenz SD with the new alternator. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Dec 15, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: Did they drive a dark blue SD on Rogers to get there? I was driving the invisible van to take the children someplace and noticed there was an alien on the road. (Is it bad that, after living here 5 months, I only know 30% of the neighbors, but I recognize all the local adult European cars?) Anyway hope everything is healing nicely, congrats on the graduation, and I hope you have a pleasant trip home. :) Best, Tim On Dec 14, 2013 11:06 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: So the girl and Dr. Mom went to the UNC ER last night @ 8:30PM and got back @ 6AM after finally getting the alternator laceration stitched up by the 3rd doc to deal with it. The first, an intern, was lost, the second, a resident cleaned it up, and finally a real doc came and stitched it. 9.5 hours. Cheapchineechit casualty. Happy graduation evening! #drugs --R (sent from my miniPad) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I don't think greed is the problem, exactly. There will always be greedy people. The problem occurs when that greed that is enabled by government enforced monopolies and government suppression of potential competition that enshrines the status quo. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 1:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty medical system is broken. all about greed. greed has broken much in this country. the reagan revolution turned out to be something very different than what i believed it to be 30 years ago i had a japanese doctor who'd just fix stuff in the office. but he is dead now so i have sworn off doctors and just fix it myself. let them exploit someone other than me! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No it is not greed in particular, it is just that hospitals (or ERs specifically) are just really poorly operated and managed. And why urgent care places close at 8Pm is another mystery. --R On 12/15/13 4:52 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: I don't think greed is the problem, exactly. There will always be greedy people. The problem occurs when that greed that is enabled by government enforced monopolies and government suppression of potential competition that enshrines the status quo. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 1:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty medical system is broken. all about greed. greed has broken much in this country. the reagan revolution turned out to be something very different than what i believed it to be 30 years ago i had a japanese doctor who'd just fix stuff in the office. but he is dead now so i have sworn off doctors and just fix it myself. let them exploit someone other than me! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Gary wrote: the reagan revolution turned out to be something very different than what i believed it to be 30 years ago Absolutely!! +1 mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Scott wrote: The problem occurs when that greed that is enabled by government enforced monopolies and government suppression of potential competition that enshrines the status quo. Yep. This was clearly expressed in 1840 by Frederic Bastiat - The Law. DuckDuckGo to find it online. Short little book describing this dynamic. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Not to say I told you so, but the Reagan Revolution was only a revolution in the same way the engine rotation is a revolution -- the whole idea was to undo the banking regulation and tax system that had protected us from market and banking collapses that happened every couple years before the 1911 Federal Reserve creation and Anti--Trust laws. Obvious then, obvious now, and unregulated capitalism (really unbridled speculation) breeds depressions and currency collapse like cold fronts breed storms. Markets are just people buying and selling, and they don't filter out lies, misrepresentation, or fraud, quite the opposite. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Thnks. Wilt - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 11:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 22:30:13 -0500 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: BTW, #1 grandson likely finished his studies in Chapel Hill this week, also; heading to Paris and other points in Europe in Jan. for rest (3 semesters) of his masters studies. We all wish him well. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So the girl and Dr. Mom went to the UNC ER last night @ 8:30PM and got back @ 6AM after finally getting the alternator laceration stitched up by the 3rd doc to deal with it. The first, an intern, was lost, the second, a resident cleaned it up, and finally a real doc came and stitched it. 9.5 hours. Cheapchineechit casualty. Happy graduation evening! #drugs --R (sent from my miniPad) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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'Sorry they had such a bad experience at UNC ER; 'hope the recovery goes well. Is graduation in the stadium today? Quite a temperature and wx change from when ours was there back in May. Gonna visit Mama Dip's while you're there? ;) Wilt - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty So the girl and Dr. Mom went to the UNC ER last night @ 8:30PM and got back @ 6AM after finally getting the alternator laceration stitched up by the 3rd doc to deal with it. The first, an intern, was lost, the second, a resident cleaned it up, and finally a real doc came and stitched it. 9.5 hours. Cheapchineechit casualty. Happy graduation evening! #drugs --R (sent from my miniPad) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No, grad was yesterday in Gboro at the Coliseum. quite a large event, surprising. We are probably heading home soon if the boss rousts so no Mama Dips today. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Dec 14, 2013, at 11:37 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Sorry they had such a bad experience at UNC ER; 'hope the recovery goes well. Is graduation in the stadium today? Quite a temperature and wx change from when ours was there back in May. Gonna visit Mama Dip's while you're there? ;) Wilt - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty So the girl and Dr. Mom went to the UNC ER last night @ 8:30PM and got back @ 6AM after finally getting the alternator laceration stitched up by the 3rd doc to deal with it. The first, an intern, was lost, the second, a resident cleaned it up, and finally a real doc came and stitched it. 9.5 hours. Cheapchineechit casualty. Happy graduation evening! #drugs --R (sent from my miniPad) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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When we were kids this was a quick trip up to the local GP's office, made it several times myself, any hour of the day. If he answered the phone, he was in, and would clean you up and stitch up cuts, etc. for $5. Sad state we are in when you cannot get a simple cut stitched without a three hour wait. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Congratulations, again, and have a safe trip. 'Guess our visits to Ch. Hill are over for a while, well 'til grnson's next graduation, anyway, in spring of '15 if he comes back there for it. Remainder of his work for masters is in Europe (possibly, some in scary Mid-East) with UNC degree. Wilt - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty No, grad was yesterday in Gboro at the Coliseum. quite a large event, surprising. We are probably heading home soon if the boss rousts so no Mama Dips today. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Dec 14, 2013, at 11:37 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Sorry they had such a bad experience at UNC ER; 'hope the recovery goes well. Is graduation in the stadium today? Quite a temperature and wx change from when ours was there back in May. Gonna visit Mama Dip's while you're there? ;) Wilt - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty So the girl and Dr. Mom went to the UNC ER last night @ 8:30PM and got back @ 6AM after finally getting the alternator laceration stitched up by the 3rd doc to deal with it. The first, an intern, was lost, the second, a resident cleaned it up, and finally a real doc came and stitched it. 9.5 hours. Cheapchineechit casualty. Happy graduation evening! #drugs --R (sent from my miniPad) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That's what the minor emergency clinics are for. Our son cut a finger nearly to the bone playing with the wheels on his compound bow one Sat. AM. A trip to the minor emergency clinic and his finger was sown up and we were on our way in less than an hour (including insurance paperwork, etc.). On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: When we were kids this was a quick trip up to the local GP's office, made it several times myself, any hour of the day. If he answered the phone, he was in, and would clean you up and stitch up cuts, etc. for $5. Sad state we are in when you cannot get a simple cut stitched without a three hour wait. Peter -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Nothing new, back when I worked at Boy Scout camp 20 years ago I tripped and bent one of my fingers way in the wrong direction trying to catch myself. Hand swelled up so bad I couldn't hide I was hurt, I was trying to be a man about it after all. ;) Got somebody to take me to the ER, spent 8 odd hours waiting for an x-ray to tell me nothing was broken, put a splint on it and wait... -Curt Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 11:04:02 -0500 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty Message-ID: b84d25c5-739a-4f83-acc7-147a4a1e0...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii So the girl and Dr. Mom went to the UNC ER last night @ 8:30PM and got back @ 6AM after finally getting the alternator laceration stitched up by the 3rd doc to deal with it. The first, an intern, was lost, the second, a resident cleaned it up, and finally a real doc came and stitched it. 9.5 hours. Cheapchineechit casualty. Happy graduation evening! #drugs --R (sent from my miniPad) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Peter wrote: If he answered the phone, he was in, and would clean you up and stitch up cuts, etc. for $5. Sad state we are in when you cannot get a simple cut stitched without a three hour wait. Three hours? - Rich said 9.5 hours. Sad state is the understatement. $5 can't even buy $tar$ 600-calorie drink, muchless a few minor stitches, and Larry's 3-time knee replacement. The sad state is also that there is no hope of return to sanity for simple care. Tech rules, and rules badly. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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All the urgent care places closed at 8PM when they decided at 8:15 to get it tended, so off to the zoo. Now she has alternator infection, yay. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Dec 14, 2013, at 1:50 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: That's what the minor emergency clinics are for. Our son cut a finger nearly to the bone playing with the wheels on his compound bow one Sat. AM. A trip to the minor emergency clinic and his finger was sown up and we were on our way in less than an hour (including insurance paperwork, etc.). On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: When we were kids this was a quick trip up to the local GP's office, made it several times myself, any hour of the day. If he answered the phone, he was in, and would clean you up and stitch up cuts, etc. for $5. Sad state we are in when you cannot get a simple cut stitched without a three hour wait. Peter -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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medical system is broken. all about greed. greed has broken much in this country. the reagan revolution turned out to be something very different than what i believed it to be 30 years ago i had a japanese doctor who'd just fix stuff in the office. but he is dead now so i have sworn off doctors and just fix it myself. let them exploit someone other than me! On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: When we were kids this was a quick trip up to the local GP's office, made it several times myself, any hour of the day. If he answered the phone, he was in, and would clean you up and stitch up cuts, etc. for $5. Sad state we are in when you cannot get a simple cut stitched without a three hour wait. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Alternator casualty
So in Greensboro today attending daughter's graduation and after we worked on swapping a new Bosch alternator for the chinee POS the shop put on, which failed. It was not even necessary, so lost a good Bosch for the POS. So now a new Bosch which is fine. Drove the car from Gboro blasting along at 80 or so, no problemos. Anyway, daughter was helping me as she likes this sort of thing, and was below to catch the POS as I was letting it down, and sliced a finger good, somehow. Got back to Chapel Hill with the SIL fam, Dr. mom takes a look, and off they all go to the ER to get it cleaned up and stitched up. Nice graduation present courtesy of the jackleg shop and POS alternator. Plus it was cold out while I was changing the thing. --R (sent from my miniPad) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty
Rich Thomas wrote: Anyway, daughter was helping me as she likes this sort of thing, and was below to catch the POS as I was letting it down, and sliced a finger good, somehow. I always remember to wear gloves, right after my hand starts bleeding. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 21:31:10 -0500 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: It was not even necessary, so lost a good Bosch for the POS. That really must have griped you. Anyway, daughter was helping me as she likes this sort of thing, Wonderful! Encourage it! and was below to catch the POS as I was letting it down, and sliced a finger good, somehow. Got back to Chapel Hill with the SIL fam, Dr. mom takes a look, and off they all go to the ER to get it cleaned up and stitched up. Nice graduation present courtesy of the jackleg shop and POS alternator. I guess she has seen all of the sides of car repair, up close and personal. Plus it was cold out while I was changing the thing. At least you weren't out in the cold all by yourself. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty
ATTAGIRL/ATTABOY and congratulations on the graduation and repairs; my sympathies on the wounding. 'Hope it heals well and quickly. BTW, #1 grandson likely finished his studies in Chapel Hill this week, also; heading to Paris and other points in Europe in Jan. for rest (3 semesters) of his masters studies. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 9:31 PM Subject: [MBZ] Alternator casualty So in Greensboro today attending daughter's graduation and after we worked on swapping a new Bosch alternator for the chinee POS the shop put on, which failed. It was not even necessary, so lost a good Bosch for the POS. So now a new Bosch which is fine. Drove the car from Gboro blasting along at 80 or so, no problemos. Anyway, daughter was helping me as she likes this sort of thing, and was below to catch the POS as I was letting it down, and sliced a finger good, somehow. Got back to Chapel Hill with the SIL fam, Dr. mom takes a look, and off they all go to the ER to get it cleaned up and stitched up. Nice graduation present courtesy of the jackleg shop and POS alternator. Plus it was cold out while I was changing the thing. --R (sent from my miniPad) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 22:30:13 -0500 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: BTW, #1 grandson likely finished his studies in Chapel Hill this week, also; heading to Paris and other points in Europe in Jan. for rest (3 semesters) of his masters studies. We all wish him well. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
