I wrote it that way for a reason...
-Curt
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 18:48:41 -0500
From: Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com
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Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com writes:
Stray question regarding oil refining.
I think I have heard stories lately about the pipeline for the tar
sand oil from Canada. Are they saying this oil is really dirty to
refine?
I think in the past it was too expensive to refine, maybe in part
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Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com writes
They are going to mine it anyway, and sell it to the Chinese, so whether
it is dirty or whatever is not relevant to the argument. The Canadians
are not so tied up in the fringe issue at this time.
I don't know if the pipeline will be above ground or below ground
through Nebraska (have not
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Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com writes:
Stray question regarding oil refining.
I think I have heard
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Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com writes:
Stray question regarding oil
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They are going to mine it anyway, and sell it to the Chinese, so whether
it is dirty or whatever is not relevant
and sell us finished product
-Curt
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 11:58:47 -0800
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They are going to mine it anyway, and sell it to the Chinese, so whether
it is dirty or whatever is not relevant
the proposal.
-Curt
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 08:33:39 -0500
From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
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Here's an interesting story relative to refineries and the technology they use:
In 1998 I was RIFF'ed out of a position. I was searching for something new and
got a call from a fellow I knew at Waukesha Engine, in where else, but
Waukesha, WI.
Seems that Waukesha has a obscure little division
Whow, what a thing of beauty that must have been back in 1906.
Follows my point exactly. The refinery business is in the dark ages, has
been kept in the dark ages, and EPA and others will not embrace anything
new and approved because getting anything approved means running a
gauntlet through
Dan Penoff wrote:
Anyway, for some bizarre reason, the CFR has been the standard used by nearly
every refinery in the world to measure and test the octane of the fuels they
produce. You would think by now that there would be some sort of means of doing
this in a lab or something
And
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Mountain Manmaontin@gmail.com writes:
Stray question regarding oil refining.
I think I have heard stories lately about the pipeline for the tar
sand oil
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Worldwide lack of refineries is the problem right now entirely, theres
actually a surplus of oil (although that doesn't make much sense with
prices, blame that on speculators) and a shortage of refined product.
I'm surprised the Chinese haven't set up a mega
Scott wrote:
Question: What do you call a place that exports raw materials and imports
finished goods?
Answer: A colony.
Nice.
So, who's colony are we? - catch that --R?
mao
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There's that fallacy again - it's not our oil. It's the oil company's,
and they'll do with it what they like, sell it where they like, and buy
crude where they like. Unless we nationalize oil (Saudi Arabia and
Venezuela), it's not ours to claim. The oil companies have no national
interests -
This seems to be a fairly accurate description of the pipeline and it's effects:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-01/keystone-oil-pipeline-seen-raising-gas-prices-in-midwest-energy.html
The Economist wrote:
The final section of the pipeline would have taken oil from Cushing, Oklahoma,
to
Well, yeah, that is correct, but if TSHTF how long would it take the
gummint to nationalize our oil. Or put all kinds of controls on
exports, imports, etc etc, you know, for the common good?
The Nobel Prize winner (not the Peace Prize, the chemistry or physics)
Chu says the gummint's plan is
Was par for the past four months and when I filled up last, it had dropped
below #2. I think the fuel oil moves much faster at my place, since they do
home heating as well. BioD must be on contract, as I can not see them turning
it over fast enough to keep up with present pricing.
clay
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clay wrote:
...since they do home heating as well.
Stray question regarding oil refining.
I think I have heard stories lately about the pipeline for the tar
sand oil from Canada. Are they saying this oil is really dirty to
refine?
Shall we stray a bit off to politics?
For what reason, other
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