Re: [MBZ] Current Tap

2020-04-16 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 13:47:15 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
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> I have a label maker that neatly solves those kinds of problems... it
> prints on a plastic like material that applies with an adhesive  backing
> [peel off , stick on]... Made by DYMO.
> I use it to make labels to stick to oil filters , ie. date, mileage,
> engine hours, etc. and to label and document engine work, oil change
> info, etc.. IF I recall.. less than $30 6 yrs ago. It has more than
> paid for it's self.

Perhaps you could make a label for me ...   :-)


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Current Tap

2020-04-16 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
I have a label maker that neatly solves those kinds of problems... it
prints on a plastic like material that applies with an adhesive  backing
[peel off , stick on]... Made by DYMO.
I use it to make labels to stick to oil filters , ie. date, mileage, engine
hours, etc. and to label and document engine work, oil change info, etc..
IF I recall.. less than $30 6 yrs ago. It has more than paid for it's self.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 9:04 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> > I have a yellow paint pen, but I'm not too sure how it would last on
> > electrical tape ...
>
> Or on the body of one of the plugs?  Probably mark both x1 and x10
> if done that way.
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Current Tap

2020-04-16 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> I have a yellow paint pen, but I'm not too sure how it would last on
> electrical tape ...

Or on the body of one of the plugs?  Probably mark both x1 and x10
if done that way.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Current Tap

2020-04-15 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 10:20:04 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
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> Very nicely done.

Thank you!


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Re: [MBZ] Current Tap

2020-04-15 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 07:19:55 -0700 Jim Cathey 
wrote:

> Sweet.

Thank you!


> I'd attempt to paint a "x 10" on that ring somehow, it's amazing
> how leaky memory can be sometimes.

I have a yellow paint pen, but I'm not too sure how it would last on
electrical tape ...


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Re: [MBZ] Current Tap

2020-04-15 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 20:24:01 -0500 fmiser via Mercedes
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> Nice.

Thank you!


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Re: [MBZ] Current Tap

2020-04-15 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Jim wrote:

> Sweet.  I'd attempt to paint a "x 10" on that ring somehow, it's
> amazing how leaky memory can be sometimes.

Labeling is always a Good Idea.

Though with the visually obvious 1x on the neutral, it should be
pretty easy to compare and figure out the multiplier for the loop.

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Re: [MBZ] Current Tap

2020-04-15 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I will add, that it would be very easy to make up a short extension cord 
with the wires separated so that the clamp on meter could get at one 
wire, especially if you used one of the flat cords with the groove down 
the middle. The only thing lacking would be the 10X coil.


RB


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Re: [MBZ] Current Tap

2020-04-15 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 15/04/2020 6:19 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

My Amprobe clamp on ammeter came with a current transformer for regular plug in 
the wall sort of stuff.

https://www.amprobe.com/product/els2a/ 

Pretty simple and cheap, you could certainly use it with other clamp on meters.

-D


I bought one a while back at Menards. Don't recall the brand name but it 
was in the store grouping of meters etc. Seems to work fine. I have 3 
different clamp on meters. I think the jaws are big enough on all of 
them to use with the splitter.


RB


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Re: [MBZ] Current Tap

2020-04-15 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Very nicely done. If I made it, it would work but it would not look 
quite so perfect.


RB


On 14/04/2020 7:57 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

Shirley recently asked me to do something which required measuring the AC
current drawn by a load. I have been frustrated by not having a current
tap, something with which to measure the current drawn by an AC load, so
I decided to build one, shown in the attached picture. The neutral wire
can be used to provide a 1x point on which to clamp a clamp-on AC ammeter.
The line wire is wound in a 10-turn loop, so it provides a 10x point on
which to clamp the ammeter.


Craig



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Re: [MBZ] Current Tap

2020-04-15 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Sweet.  I'd attempt to paint a "x 10" on that ring somehow, it's amazing
how leaky memory can be sometimes.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Current Tap

2020-04-15 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> I wonder how accurate a Kill-a-watt is?  I find it a handy tool.

Close enough, IMHO.  I have two of them, one lives on Big Bertha.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Current Tap

2020-04-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
My Amprobe clamp on ammeter came with a current transformer for regular plug in 
the wall sort of stuff.

https://www.amprobe.com/product/els2a/ 

Pretty simple and cheap, you could certainly use it with other clamp on meters.

-D

> On Apr 15, 2020, at 6:40 AM, Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, April 15, 2020 1:42 am, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
>> I wonder how accurate a Kill-a-watt is?  I find it a handy tool.
> 
> The Hertz function makes a great tachometer for generators.
> Before Kill-a-watt, I had to use a quartz stopwatch and an electric
> digital clock.
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Re: [MBZ] Current Tap

2020-04-15 Thread Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes
On Wed, April 15, 2020 1:42 am, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
> I wonder how accurate a Kill-a-watt is?  I find it a handy tool.

The Hertz function makes a great tachometer for generators.
Before Kill-a-watt, I had to use a quartz stopwatch and an electric
digital clock.

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Re: [MBZ] Current Tap

2020-04-14 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
I wonder how accurate a Kill-a-watt is?  I find it a handy tool.

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> Craig via Mercedes
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> Subject: [MBZ] Current Tap
> 
> Shirley recently asked me to do something which required measuring the AC
> current drawn by a load. I have been frustrated by not having a current tap,
> something with which to measure the current drawn by an AC load, so I
> decided to build one, shown in the attached picture. The neutral wire can be
> used to provide a 1x point on which to clamp a clamp-on AC ammeter.
> The line wire is wound in a 10-turn loop, so it provides a 10x point on which 
> to
> clamp the ammeter.
> 
> 
> Craig


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Re: [MBZ] Current Tap

2020-04-14 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Craig wrote:

> I have been frustrated by not having a current tap, something
> with which to measure the current drawn by an AC load,

> The line wire is wound in a 10-turn loop, so it provides a 10x
> point on which to clamp the ammeter.

Nice.

I built one by stripping the jacket off of an 1ft extension
cable.  Quick and easy - but no current multiplying.

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Re: [MBZ] Current Tap

2020-04-14 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 20:11:33 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
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> Cool! I never thought about a 10X loop!

I was looking at electrical stuff on a website (maybe Zoro) and saw
something similar. I thought the 10x loop was a good idea, so that's
what I did.


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Re: [MBZ] Current Tap

2020-04-14 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 17:59:50 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
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> Fancy. 

Thank you.


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Re: [MBZ] Current Tap

2020-04-14 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Cool! I never thought about a 10X loop!

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 7:58 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Shirley recently asked me to do something which required measuring the AC
> current drawn by a load. I have been frustrated by not having a current
> tap, something with which to measure the current drawn by an AC load, so
> I decided to build one, shown in the attached picture. The neutral wire
> can be used to provide a 1x point on which to clamp a clamp-on AC ammeter.
> The line wire is wound in a 10-turn loop, so it provides a 10x point on
> which to clamp the ammeter.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Current Tap

2020-04-14 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Fancy. 

Bob R

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> On Apr 14, 2020, at 5:58 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Shirley recently asked me to do something which required measuring the AC
> current drawn by a load. I have been frustrated by not having a current
> tap, something with which to measure the current drawn by an AC load, so
> I decided to build one, shown in the attached picture. The neutral wire
> can be used to provide a 1x point on which to clamp a clamp-on AC ammeter.
> The line wire is wound in a 10-turn loop, so it provides a 10x point on
> which to clamp the ammeter.
> 
> 
> Craig
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