Re: [MBZ] Diesel SL Was: Cheap SL

2010-12-22 Thread Curt Raymond
Why 'zat? I've had a couple v6s and while I find them generally uninspiring I can't think of anything to really dislike them for. -Curt Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 20:35:56 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel SL

Re: [MBZ] Diesel SL Was: Cheap SL

2010-12-22 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 7:18 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Why 'zat? I've had a couple v6s and while I find them generally uninspiring I can't think of anything to really dislike them for. Bah! A V-6 is an engineering solution in search of a problem. They're inherently

Re: [MBZ] Diesel SL Was: Cheap SL

2010-12-22 Thread LWB250
Tell me about it The wife drives a Mazda6, which has a transverse V-6 in it. The spark plugs should be changed at 80k. You have to remove the (plastic) intake manifold to access the plugs on the bank closest to the firewall. I think flat rate time is a couple of hours for the job, which

Re: [MBZ] Diesel SL Was: Cheap SL

2010-12-22 Thread OK Don
I had similar sentiments, until I bought the ML - that 320 V6 is sweet. The advantage is more room under the hood. The I6 in the 300E was really crammed in there. No room at either end of the engine. The M112.942 engine seems fine to work on, even in the squashed nose of the ML. I don't know what

Re: [MBZ] Diesel SL Was: Cheap SL

2010-12-22 Thread Mitch Haley
LWB250 wrote: Tell me about it The wife drives a Mazda6, which has a transverse V-6 in it. The spark plugs should be changed at 80k. Transverse V-6 are horrible, but I bet a transverse V-8 is worse. I do prefer a straight 6 for its simplicity and inherent lack of vibration. That said,

Re: [MBZ] Diesel SL Was: Cheap SL

2010-12-22 Thread E M
I haven't done the chain on the W124 yet, but everything else has been a snap with that engine. After working on the 911, and a few GM cars that have had their engines in sideways and upside down, the Benz I6 almost allows me to stand in the engine bay while working on it. hee hee. I think the

Re: [MBZ] Diesel SL Was: Cheap SL

2010-12-22 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Transverse V-6 are horrible, but I bet a transverse V-8 is worse. Luckily no one builds cars with transverse V-8s any more except the loonies at Cadillac. I think Volvo has them too, in their biggest cars and SUVs, but that's

Re: [MBZ] Diesel SL Was: Cheap SL

2010-12-22 Thread E M
I don't think Ferrari have mad any transversely mounted V8s for a few models now. You still have to take the engine out of the car to check the oil level though. ;-) hee hee My Ferrari friends are going to jump all over me for that one! Ed 300E On 22 December 2010 16:13, Alex Chamberlain

Re: [MBZ] Diesel SL Was: Cheap SL

2010-12-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Alex Chamberlain wrote: Luckily no one builds cars with transverse V-8s any more except the loonies at Cadillac. I think Volvo has them too, in their biggest cars and SUVs, but that's all I can think of. Ferrari, maybe (do they still make anything mid-engined?), but if you own a Ferrari

Re: [MBZ] Diesel SL Was: Cheap SL

2010-12-22 Thread OK Don
Which reminds me that I need to sell the Plymouth mini van before it needs another set of plugs - and buy one that has just had the plugs changed! On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: Luckily no one builds cars with transverse V-8s any

Re: [MBZ] Diesel SL Was: Cheap SL

2010-12-22 Thread Dieselhead
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel SL Was: Cheap SL

2010-12-22 Thread Curt Raymond
Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel SL Was: Cheap SL Message-ID:     aanlkti=oy5=b3mafjwt=ifv2tcxslbd24ge6zxm7c...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 7:18 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud

Re: [MBZ] Diesel SL Was: Cheap SL

2010-12-22 Thread Dieselhead
Have you changed the plug wires yet? that is worse than changing the plugs. I don't mind changing the plugs in the 3.3 in the 96-2000 body now that I know how to do it. but you need a comfortable shop and you have to be able to raise the front end and back end, so it takes 4 jack stands.

Re: [MBZ] Diesel SL Was: Cheap SL

2010-12-22 Thread OK Don
Nope. I do have the four stands, and the shop is OK in nice weather :-) The originals got changed under the extended warranty, so I haven't learned how to do it, and would rather skin knuckles on a Mercedes - On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Have you

[MBZ] Diesel SL Was: Cheap SL

2010-12-21 Thread Dieselhead
Rolf, Got any info, pictures, contacts etc. I am pondering a 380SL 2.5D using an OM602 turbo. By the time I start, I maybe able to find a 2.7 L out of a Sprinter, if that would fit. I think a rusty 87 190D 2.5 with a 5 speed would be a nice donor for the R107 transplant. I've seen em

Re: [MBZ] Diesel SL Was: Cheap SL

2010-12-21 Thread Mitch Haley
Dieselhead wrote: Rolf, Got any info, pictures, contacts etc. I am pondering a 380SL 2.5D using an OM602 turbo. By the time I start, I maybe able to find a 2.7 L out of a Sprinter, if that would fit. I think a rusty 87 190D 2.5 with a 5 speed would be a nice donor for the R107

Re: [MBZ] Diesel SL Was: Cheap SL

2010-12-21 Thread E M
A 2.5 litre diesel engine can only just move a 190 forward, slowly. I don't think it would provide enough grunt to even shuffle an SL around a parking lot. Ed 300E On 21 December 2010 19:41, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Rolf, Got any info, pictures, contacts etc. I am pondering a

Re: [MBZ] Diesel SL Was: Cheap SL

2010-12-21 Thread E M
This is where bolting on some 24s might help. hee hee Ed 300E On 21 December 2010 20:08, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Dieselhead wrote: Rolf, Got any info, pictures, contacts etc. I am pondering a 380SL 2.5D using an OM602 turbo. By the time I start, I maybe able to find a 2.7 L

Re: [MBZ] Diesel SL Was: Cheap SL

2010-12-21 Thread Mitch Haley
E M wrote: A 2.5 litre diesel engine can only just move a 190 forward, slowly. I don't think it would provide enough grunt to even shuffle an SL around a parking lot. My 1987 (and 1992) OM602s are rated for more horsepower than the 617 in my 1979 300SD, and I thought my SD was quick enough

Re: [MBZ] Diesel SL Was: Cheap SL

2010-12-21 Thread Dieselhead
nope, just speculation. Find a rusty 2.5T, find a trans flywheel that would be compatible etc. The 603 is slanted some. I think you could add a little more slant if need be. I've never seen the 2.7 sprinter engine, but it seems likely to be a descendant of the 5cyl version of the 606.