Re: [MBZ] GL amp draw
I am not really sure the Weezurd is all that great. I had to undo some of his "work" on this GL. On 6/19/2021 2:00 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: Send it to the Weezurd! --FT Sent from iPhone On Jun 19, 2021, at 11:21 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Well crap OK. Time to start digging I guess Sent from my iPhone On Jun 19, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: That's almost half an amp! Way too high... Max Dillon Charleston SC Jun 19, 2021 11:11:14 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes : On the ex Hoovie GL if the car sits for 3-4 days or so without being started battery is too low to start. I am checking amp draw right now and pic is what I am getting after everything shuts down. Is this normal or too high for one of these? Seems like it should be something like .05 but not sure I recall. With this car it’s got something like 3-4 fuse boxes so it seems like it could be hard to narrow down Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL amp draw
Send it to the Weezurd! --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jun 19, 2021, at 11:21 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Well crap OK. Time to start digging I guess > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 19, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> That's almost half an amp! Way too high... >> >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> >> >> Jun 19, 2021 11:11:14 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes : >> >>> On the ex Hoovie GL if the car sits for 3-4 days or so without being >>> started battery is too low to start. I am checking amp draw right now and >>> pic is what I am getting after everything shuts down. Is this normal or too >>> high for one of these? Seems like it should be something like .05 but not >>> sure I recall. With this car it’s got something like 3-4 fuse boxes so it >>> seems like it could be hard to narrow down >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL amp draw
0.01 = 1/100 of an amp, that is acceptable and sounds like normal. 0.06 is also not too bad. Sure hope this isn't "fixing" itself while you are looking. Follow Jim's advice, put some remote measuring device on it so you can close up all the doors and hood, and then let it sit for awhile to see if it goes away. Probably need to start the car up and drive it around, then park and leave it alone to see what happens. - Max Charleston SC On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 12:38 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I finished doing the rear fuse box. I’m in the back with all doors closed > lights off and let it settle down a few minutes first. I never came up with > any conclusions. After a while it would drop to .06 and stay there a while. > It’s now down to .01. I am thinking .06 to .01 is probably about normal. > The battery has a date of 12/20, is it possible it’s already going bad? > Dead battery aside it always seemed to me like it turns over slower than it > should like it would with a old weak battery. I supposed I could replace it > and see what happens. I did however load test it and it tested just fine. > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL amp draw
I finished doing the rear fuse box. I’m in the back with all doors closed lights off and let it settle down a few minutes first. I never came up with any conclusions. After a while it would drop to .06 and stay there a while. It’s now down to .01. I am thinking .06 to .01 is probably about normal. The battery has a date of 12/20, is it possible it’s already going bad? Dead battery aside it always seemed to me like it turns over slower than it should like it would with a old weak battery. I supposed I could replace it and see what happens. I did however load test it and it tested just fine. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 19, 2021, at 11:28 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > > >> >> some cars have computer systems that "wake up" if it senses a door opening >> or something. > > Yes, dynamic behavior makes the chase all the more fun. A likely better first > pass would be to instrument the battery feed, close up the car and let it go > to > sleep, then start pulling fuses until the load drops off. Then narrow it down > to what's on that circuit, etc. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL amp draw
SWMBO's Infiniti has an alarm system that stays on high alert if anything is open, like the trunk or hood. I was diagnosing a high current drain, decided to ask online in a forum before I spent hours pulling fuses, and got an immediate answer to close all the doors and trunk and then tape down the hood switch so the alarm system thought the hood was closed, and THEN check the current draw. It was normal. - Max Charleston SC On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 12:26 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > W210s go to sleep after 30 minutes or so. > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL amp draw
> some cars have computer systems that "wake up" if it senses a door opening or > something. Yes, dynamic behavior makes the chase all the more fun. A likely better first pass would be to instrument the battery feed, close up the car and let it go to sleep, then start pulling fuses until the load drops off. Then narrow it down to what's on that circuit, etc. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL amp draw
W210s go to sleep after 30 minutes or so. -D > On Jun 19, 2021, at 12:18 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > I remember seeing somewhere (Hoovies Garage? Car Wizard?) that some cars have > computer systems that "wake up" if it senses a door opening or something. > This one is going to be fun to find. > > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL amp draw
I remember seeing somewhere (Hoovies Garage? Car Wizard?) that some cars have computer systems that "wake up" if it senses a door opening or something. This one is going to be fun to find. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL amp draw
Harbor Fright has such a device, I have one. It has a plug that mimics a blade fuse with an ammeter attached to it. About $14, if I recall. -D > On Jun 19, 2021, at 12:08 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Dig online first, figure out what the common reasons are, and try those. > You may get lucky. Maybe some computer somewhere thinks it needs to keep > working day and night. Radio amp staying on, or something easy like that. > > Would be nice if someone made a meter adapter for those blade fuses, so you > could pull a fuse, stick the adapter in the slot, and immediately see if > that circuit is the culprit. What would be really madenning would be a > fault such that pulling the fuse will cure the fault, so when you try to > measure the draw on that fuse location, you get a normal (probably zero) > reading. > > Did you see if there are any codes from any of the various systems? > - > Max > Charleston SC > > > On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 11:21 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Well crap OK. Time to start digging I guess >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jun 19, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> That's almost half an amp! Way too high... >>> >>> Max Dillon >>> Charleston SC >>> >>> >>> Jun 19, 2021 11:11:14 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com>: >>> On the ex Hoovie GL if the car sits for 3-4 days or so without being >> started battery is too low to start. I am checking amp draw right now and >> pic is what I am getting after everything shuts down. Is this normal or too >> high for one of these? Seems like it should be something like .05 but not >> sure I recall. With this car it’s got something like 3-4 fuse boxes so it >> seems like it could be hard to narrow down Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL amp draw
Dig online first, figure out what the common reasons are, and try those. You may get lucky. Maybe some computer somewhere thinks it needs to keep working day and night. Radio amp staying on, or something easy like that. Would be nice if someone made a meter adapter for those blade fuses, so you could pull a fuse, stick the adapter in the slot, and immediately see if that circuit is the culprit. What would be really madenning would be a fault such that pulling the fuse will cure the fault, so when you try to measure the draw on that fuse location, you get a normal (probably zero) reading. Did you see if there are any codes from any of the various systems? - Max Charleston SC On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 11:21 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Well crap OK. Time to start digging I guess > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 19, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > That's almost half an amp! Way too high... > > > > Max Dillon > > Charleston SC > > > > > > Jun 19, 2021 11:11:14 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com>: > > > >> On the ex Hoovie GL if the car sits for 3-4 days or so without being > started battery is too low to start. I am checking amp draw right now and > pic is what I am getting after everything shuts down. Is this normal or too > high for one of these? Seems like it should be something like .05 but not > sure I recall. With this car it’s got something like 3-4 fuse boxes so it > seems like it could be hard to narrow down > >> > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL amp draw
Time to start pulling fuses. A lot of fuses. -D > On Jun 19, 2021, at 11:21 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Well crap OK. Time to start digging I guess > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 19, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> That's almost half an amp! Way too high... >> >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> >> >> Jun 19, 2021 11:11:14 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes : >> >>> On the ex Hoovie GL if the car sits for 3-4 days or so without being >>> started battery is too low to start. I am checking amp draw right now and >>> pic is what I am getting after everything shuts down. Is this normal or too >>> high for one of these? Seems like it should be something like .05 but not >>> sure I recall. With this car it’s got something like 3-4 fuse boxes so it >>> seems like it could be hard to narrow down >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL amp draw
Well crap OK. Time to start digging I guess Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 19, 2021, at 10:13 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > That's almost half an amp! Way too high... > > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > > > Jun 19, 2021 11:11:14 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes : > >> On the ex Hoovie GL if the car sits for 3-4 days or so without being started >> battery is too low to start. I am checking amp draw right now and pic is >> what I am getting after everything shuts down. Is this normal or too high >> for one of these? Seems like it should be something like .05 but not sure I >> recall. With this car it’s got something like 3-4 fuse boxes so it seems >> like it could be hard to narrow down >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL amp draw
That's almost half an amp! Way too high... Max Dillon Charleston SC Jun 19, 2021 11:11:14 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes : > On the ex Hoovie GL if the car sits for 3-4 days or so without being started > battery is too low to start. I am checking amp draw right now and pic is what > I am getting after everything shuts down. Is this normal or too high for one > of these? Seems like it should be something like .05 but not sure I recall. > With this car it’s got something like 3-4 fuse boxes so it seems like it > could be hard to narrow down > > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] GL amp draw
On the ex Hoovie GL if the car sits for 3-4 days or so without being started battery is too low to start. I am checking amp draw right now and pic is what I am getting after everything shuts down. Is this normal or too high for one of these? Seems like it should be something like .05 but not sure I recall. With this car it’s got something like 3-4 fuse boxes so it seems like it could be hard to narrow down Sent from my iPhone___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
