That is a Marines prerogative since they see the beach first while
the squids are lounging around on deck with a cool lemonade
clay
On 2 Jul 2008, at 19:35, Royce Engler wrote:
Hursty said
they now hire rent a cops to guard military bases.? if you go to
west point,
you get grilled
Sometime on 9-11-2001, Pres Bush was 70 miles from me and some 20 floors
under ground/concrete at Offutt Air Force Base near Omaha, NE. This
caused several friends to panic and think we'd be under attack very
soon. It's a shame they didn't get him too
Luther
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that
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Sometime on 9-11-2001, Pres Bush was 70 miles from me and some 20 floors
under ground/concrete at Offutt Air Force Base near Omaha, NE. This
caused several friends to panic and think we'd be under
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GWB, etc.
7. If nothing is done with Social Security, it will be Bankrupt by 2015.
This is pork, what has GW done on this? NOTHING but crow about how the
Democrats can't fix it.
9. THE largest increase in government spending ever. The Era of big
government just got its Messiah
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Sometime on 9-11-2001, Pres Bush was 70 miles
reason we'll do better this time?
People have been fighting and dying over that godforsaken area for thousands of
years.
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Hursty said
they now hire rent a cops to guard military bases.? if you go to west point,
you get grilled by rent a cops.? the greed is shameless.
I've got news for you, Brorent-a-cops took over base security a
looonnng time ago, maybe as far back as the Carter years.It was a
the rent a cops act like airport freaks. go there and check them out
yourself if you have a chance. it's a disgrace to the military to have them
there and i certainly wouldn't tolerate the rent a cops behavior if i were
anyone of consequence and the military academy.
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On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:06:28 -0400 Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I might not be able to forgive Clinton for his lying, but I certainly
don't have any love for the folks who spent $60M+ of tax dollars to
discover
For which a savings and loan scandal or fooling around with some trollop?
Clinton didn't kill 4000+ Americans in an unwinable foreign war.
-Curt
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:39:56 -0500
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To: 'mercedes@okiebenz.com' mercedes@okiebenz.com
What about the idea of using the Canadian military to police our streets?
Thats crazy to the extreme.
-Curt
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 03:57:30 +0200
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Peter wrote: I'm amazed, I though Nam was the screwup of the century, guess we
moved on to a new one. I cannot think of another situation short of the
American Revolution where every single decision was the worst possible
alternative, and the worst possible person put in charge.
If Barack
on 6/30/08 23:06, Bill R at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I might not be able to forgive Clinton for his lying, but I certainly don't
have any love for the folks who spent $60M+ of tax dollars to discover that
two consenting adults were engaged in a sex act.
Speaking for the rest of the world,
on 7/1/08 9:32, Curt Raymond at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What about the idea of using the Canadian military to police our streets?
Thats crazy to the extreme.
LOL well its not only crazy but the numbers wouldn't work too well I
suspect.
We have a very small military and we're already
7. If nothing is done with Social Security, it will be Bankrupt by 2015.
This is pork, what has GW done on this? NOTHING but crow about how the
Democrats can't fix it.
9. THE largest increase in government spending ever. The Era of big
government just got its Messiah.
If this is
Mac wrote: How can a nation turn on a president because he got a hummer in a
closet... then RE-ELECT another pres who has dragged them into a needless and
ugly war? No one outside the U.S. understands this disconnect. I am not trying
to be rude, but you need to know this is the way it is.
I
the
whole rest of the world? How is it possible that the rest of the world is so
dumb that they survived this long without us?
-Curt
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 10:54:22 -0500
From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Of OK Don
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Our Senate is guilty of gross negligence for not impeaching GWB and
Cheney years ago.
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As if all this after the fact stuff isn't
Curt wrote: What if the US didn't selfishly work to steal the resources of the
middle east and then dish out a pittance in foreign aid?
I wish we would do that. Let's go over and appropriate all the oil in the
middle east. We could have $1 gas again. I would go back to driving my Ford
Donald, I couldn't get past your #3 as I just saw this BS last week
and if you had taken the time to check the facts, (strange to say that
to an attorney!) you would see that she said nothing about taxing
retirement funds.
The rest of your points are unfounded as wellfor instance, the
tax
gas ever again... One of the reasons gas is so expensive is the
amount of it we've wasted in Iraq...
-Curt
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 15:48:17 -0500
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On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 06:20:33 -0400 Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dou you mean that they found actionable wrongdoing on the part of the
president and were prevented from making the charges known or having any
filings made on the charges?
Yes.
Craig
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Gary wrote: the story is kind of silly. either we conclude that our president
and everyone around him, as well as the entire air defense system, is
completely inept or retarded or we conclude that it was an inside job. which
works best for you?
First of all I don't understand the point of
Rusty wrote: I think you are insane. But I have for years. Now we all know it
is true.
Agreed. Well said, Rusty.
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Peter wrote: I'm still quite suspicious of the exact timing of the event. I'm
quite sure the Nixon era rejects running things would take undue advantage
anyway, but they all were raised up, so to speak, in a culture where
skullduggery and illegal acts were not just accepted but expected in
Scott wrote: This comment reflects great ignorance of the functions and
capabilities of the current air defense and air traffic control systems. Until
the SECOND impact, the worst-case theory was a simple hijacking gone wrong.
Actually, Scott, I think it could be said more simply. I would say
i think that dubya and his crew would be more than capable of engineering
9/11. my impression is that they are absolutely amoral and capable of
anything at all.
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gary wrote: the story is kind of silly. either we conclude
how many hijackings on the same morning does it take before one suspects
that something might be up?
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Scott wrote: This comment reflects great ignorance of the functions and
capabilities of the current air defense and air
Gary wrote: i think that dubya and his crew would be more than capable of
engineering 9/11. my impression is that they are absolutely amoral and capable
of anything at all.
I note that you didn't answer my question at all. Do you think that the 1993
Bombing of the WTC indicates that Bill
sure, i'll admit whatever you like
i make the choice of malice or idiocy based on dubya's behavior while it
was happening and the the ability of the washington, dc plane to make it to
the pentagon. it kind smells to me on the face of it. i don't have reason
to suspect clinton with regards to
on 6/30/08 10:25, Donald Snook at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You have got to be kidding. Do you also believe that we never landed on the
moon?
By the same token, back at you: Do YOU believe the Warren Commission Report?
Mac
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On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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on 6/30/08 10:25, Donald Snook at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You have got to be kidding.
Mac wrote: By the same token, back at you: Do YOU believe the Warren
Commission Report?
No, but I don't really care. There probably was a second shooter. I think
most conspiracy theories are bogus. But, I did read Fatal Error about the JFK
assassination. It was very interesting. I won't
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the story is kind of silly. either we conclude that our president and
everyone
A friend has a poster that reads Never attribute to malice, that
which can be explained by stupidity. I don't know the source.
i make the choice of malice or idiocy based on dubya's behavior while it
was happening --
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies,
Hey look at this, someone is being charged in the bombing of the USS Cole. I
guess there is another explanation besides Bill Clinton did it and/or he was
completely inept.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25460351
it looks like maybe the answer is that Terrorism happens and sometimes it
cannot be
sure you can stop it. just knock down enough 85 year old women on oxygen
because they can't get their shoes off fast enough for you and we will all
be safe.
or so your dubya thinks, and i use that word only in the loosest possible
sense.
On 6/30/08, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey
The current Bush administration is probably the most corrupt one
since Harding, and there seems to be a very high proportion of
completely amoral people in there. After all, there is new
evidence that they were planning an invasion of Iraq before 9/11,
why not speed things up at bit?
My point exactly.
Peter
On Jun 30, 2008, at 9:30 AM, Gary Hurst wrote:
i think that dubya and his crew would be more than capable of
engineering
9/11. my impression is that they are absolutely amoral and capable of
anything at all.
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL
As if all this after the fact stuff isn't sufficient proof of the
culpability of the main person responsible for much of the current mess our
country faces, as the historians are already writing this moron's epitaph
and it doesn't look good. For those of you who may not be aware, I really
wonder
I guess you forgot about Clinton, those people should have been in
prison, not running for president
Peter Frederick wrote:
The current Bush administration is probably the most corrupt one
since Harding, and there seems to be a very high proportion of
completely amoral people in there.
Peter wrote: The current Bush administration is probably the most corrupt one
since Harding, and there seems to be a very high proportion of completely
amoral people in there.
Please provide evidence of this extreme statement.
Donald H. Snook
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Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
how many hijackings on the same morning does it take before one
suspects that something might be up?
Well at least two. For heavens sake, nothing like this had ever
happened before, I guess unless you count the Kamakaze attacks in
WWII. It was all over in
Kaleb wrote: I guess you forgot about Clinton, those people should have been
in prison, not running for president. Thank you, I was hoping someone else
was thinking the same thing I was.
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Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
sure, i'll admit whatever you like
i make the choice of malice or idiocy based on dubya's behavior
while it was happening and the the ability of the washington, dc
plane to make it to the pentagon. it kind smells to me on the face
of it.
I suspect you
Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
sure you can stop it. just knock down enough 85 year old women on
oxygen because they can't get their shoes off fast enough for you
and we will all be safe.
or so your dubya thinks, and i use that word only in the loosest
possible sense.
You are quite
And the fourth plane didn't hit it's target, whatever that target was.
I am very proud of the military and civilian response that day, it's
that kind of behavior that has made this a great nation.
GW's behavior that day was the exact opposite of leadership, and what
followed was worse.
Our Senate is guilty of gross negligence for not impeaching GWB and
Cheney years ago.
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As if all this after the fact stuff isn't sufficient proof of the
culpability of the main person responsible for much of the current mess
that nation is under attack. no effort is made to either protect the
president nor to stop the attackers. the lack of reaction is beyond
belief. my government cannot respond to attack in only a mere hour or so??
say it is a fix that isn't going as smoothly as planned and weigh bush's
confusion
i'm out of mind? isn't that our response to terrorism? this and
fabricating two never ending wars? i'd say that it is your dubya who is out
of his mind, but i suspect he isn't as dumb a he is playing.
they now hire rent a cops to guard military bases. if you go to west point,
you get grilled
the reason is that it is all one big racket. the democrats are as happy
with this war as the republicans. as long as the people do not insist it is
stopped, it will go on.
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:53 AM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Our Senate is guilty of gross negligence for not
and who should be running it? Nancy?
OK Don wrote:
Our Senate is guilty of gross negligence for not impeaching GWB and
Cheney years ago.
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As if all this after the fact stuff isn't sufficient proof of the
culpability of
Yes - that's the problem -- no real leadership anywhere.
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
and who should be running it? Nancy?
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Norman, OK
There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.
-Benjamin Disraeli and/or
I thought Vietnam had taken the cake. Here's my brief take on the Iraq
Fiasco:
George had decided he was going to “get” Saddam any way he could, after all,
Saddam had tried to kill his daddy. Texas cowboys don’t let “Black Bart”
get away with trying to kill Daddy. He just had to find a good
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 03:54:15 +0200 Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
that nation is under attack. no effort is made to either protect the
president nor to stop the attackers. the lack of reaction is beyond
belief. my government cannot respond to attack in only a mere hour or
so??
say
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:26:01 -0500 Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
My point exactly.
Peter
On Jun 30, 2008, at 9:30 AM, Gary Hurst wrote:
i think that dubya and his crew would be more than capable of
engineering
9/11. my impression is that they are absolutely amoral and
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:51:24 -0500 Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
GW's behavior that day was the exact opposite of leadership, and what
followed was worse.
I reiterate my point about Congress-critters.
Everyone was caught by surprise. Stop dumping on Bush.
Craig
Actually, I think the idea was to get access (without Saddam) to the
Iraqi oil. Done deal now -- more of those ho big contracts.
Incompetence is the hallmark of this crowd when they have to actually
DO something instead of just push people around.
I'm amazed, I though Nam was the screwup of
on 6/30/08 21:54, Gary Hurst at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
that nation is under attack. no effort is made to either protect the
president nor to stop the attackers. the lack of reaction is beyond
belief. my government cannot respond to attack in only a mere hour or so??
say it is a fix
, 2008 9:17 PM
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I guess you forgot about Clinton, those people should have been in
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On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:06:28 -0400 Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I might not be able to forgive Clinton for his lying, but I certainly
don't have any love for the folks who spent $60M+ of tax dollars to
discover that two consenting adults were engaged in a sex act.
They actually found a
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:51 PM
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And the fourth plane didn't hit it's target, whatever that target was.
I am very proud of the military and civilian response that day, it's
that kind of behavior that has made this a great nation.
GW's behavior that day was the exact
yup, it's the pentagon where everything is going to fall apart in the story
. something is not kosher and we may never know the full extent of the
president's complicity in the 9/11 attacks
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:58 PM, Steve MacSween
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on 6/30/08 21:54, Gary Hurst
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I guess you forgot about Clinton, those people should have been in
prison, not running for president
Steve MacSween wrote:
My biggest beef is with the Pentagon attack. You are telling me that a guy
who was rated poorly by his instructors, who only had basic maneouvering
training in a simulator, was able to bring a jetliner onto the
ultra-low-level approach path required to make that hit,
Bill R wrote:
I might not be able to forgive Clinton for his lying, but I certainly don't
have any love for the folks who spent $60M+ of tax dollars to discover that
two consenting adults were engaged in a sex act.
Some very funny dealings with Chinese and Indonesian interests, among other
nope
OK Don wrote:
Yes - that's the problem -- no real leadership anywhere.
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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I guess you forgot about Clinton, those people should have been in
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The one good thing about the upcoming election is that we get rid of George
IV (GWB). In a dialog on the subject with my brother, I thought I'd pass
along his recent note:
H. L. Mencken divined in 1920 the election of George W. One some great and
glorious day the plain folks of the land will
you think the next guy will also blow up famous buildings to create an
environment of political and economic repression?
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The one good thing about the upcoming election is that we get rid of George
IV (GWB). In a dialog on
Glenn Brown wrote:
One some great and
glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at
last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
November 1963???
January 1977???
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you think the next guy will also blow up famous buildings to create an
environment
29, 2008 7:42 PM
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you think the next guy will also blow up famous buildings to create an
environment of political and economic repression?
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The one good thing about the upcoming election is that we
And here I thought I was only paranoid
Peter
On Jun 29, 2008, at 2:42 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
you think the next guy will also blow up famous buildings to create an
environment of political and economic repression?
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
the story is kind of silly. either we conclude that our president and
everyone around him, as well as the entire air defense system, is completely
inept or retarded or we conclude that it was an inside job. which works
best for you?
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Peter Frederick [EMAIL
I'm still quite suspicious of the exact timing of the event. I'm
quite sure the Nixon era rejects running things would take undue
advantage anyway, but they all were raised up, so to speak, in a
culture where skullduggery and illegal acts were not just accepted
but expected in order to
I think you are insane. But I have for years. Now we all know it is true.
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the story is kind of silly. either we conclude that our president and
everyone around him, as well as the entire air defense system, is completely
inept or retarded or we
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I think you are insane. But I have for years. Now we all know it is true.
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the story is kind of silly. either we conclude that our president and
everyone around him
Good point Rusty,
It's the old thing about *not* saying anything allowing people to
*believe* you are an idiot Vs. saying something and letting them *know* you
are one.
I think it was Mark Twain who said that, perhaps?
Bible based, originally.
Proverbs 17:28 (New International Version)
28
The final word, which most people haven't heard, is that there were
no torpedo boats in the Gulf of Tonkin that night. They were chasing
radar echoes from interference and beam curvature that were known to
produce phantom returns, and the torpedoes were their own and each
other's
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