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Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 10:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Iowa lobbyists ADM behind this?
Uh, what's happening in 3 weeks? And who needs a little boost from those
who stand to gain from this idiocy? The article in our local rag
, 2010 11:19 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Iowa lobbyists ADM behind this?
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:35:30 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
Fortunately another pure-gas reader went there and actually tested the
stuff, finding it at ~8% alcohol.
So, what's the easy way
, 2010 10:17 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Iowa lobbyists ADM behind this?
Uh, what's happening in 3 weeks? And who needs a little boost from those
who stand to gain from this idiocy? The article in our local rag had a
quote from the EPA idiot Lisa Something about how
Craig wrote:
So, what's the easy way to test the amount of ethanol? Specific gravity?
Wouldn't condensed water in the gasoline affect that measurement?
Put 10cc of water and 10cc of gas in a graduated cylinder and cork it.
Shake, shake, shake.
Let it settle, and check the division between the
Bingo! (see Craig's post below)
Shady gasoline wholesalers and retailers add ethanol and water. I
first encountered this in 1974 in the first energy crisis Put a
load of brand name premium in my BMW and as soon as the new fuel
got into the carbs it would barely run. One reason why I
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 07:24:57 -0400 Dillon, Meade M CIV
SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:
I believe that you can purchase a small testing device for several
dollars, Google knows all...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsSQSuCiUjE
Thanks, Max, I didn't think of that.
Loren, if you can get your hands on a gallon of gasoline (I sure don't know how
to do it without going to Lake Michigan or an airport), put a gallon of gasoline
and a gallon of E10 in sealed cans. Wait six months, then open them up and take
a sniff. The E10 is more decomposed than the gasoline,
Problem is that 10% seems to be *generally* OK (except for boaters
where it is a HUGE problem, and for your home power equipment) but above
that it can get problematic for older fuel systems that can corrode or
dissolve. Approval to go to 15% will cause lots of problems, both with
vehicles
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 08:22:37 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
Craig wrote:
So, what's the easy way to test the amount of ethanol? Specific
gravity? Wouldn't condensed water in the gasoline affect that
measurement?
Put 10cc of water and 10cc of gas in a graduated cylinder and
, 2010 9:57 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Iowa lobbyists ADM behind this?
Loren, if you can get your hands on a gallon of gasoline (I sure don't
know how to do it without going to Lake Michigan or an airport), put a
gallon of gasoline and a gallon of E10 in sealed cans. Wait
I agree that no alcohol gas is better for storage. However, what is
sold as gasoline now is not like the gas of old. But even the gas of
old was stinky and not good after a year. Why not just drain the
tank and run the engine out of fuel? I always drain the tank and run
the fuel out on
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
Why not just drain the tank and run the engine
out of fuel?
I heard somewhere---don't know if it's true---that this is OK for
four-cycles but a Bad Thing to do to two-cycles, since you're starving
the engine of lubrication
I heard the same unsubstantiated stuff 30-35 years ago when gasohol
first came out. how many cars sold in Brazil are different that what
is sold here? not much. Toada doesn't make brazil only cars, nor
do US manufacturers.
The anti -ethanol lobby uses outdated information about outdated
My chainsaw seems very happy after years of being treated that way.
But the topic was a 190E 2.3-16v and that is a 4 cycle.
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
Why not just drain the tank and run the engine
out of fuel?
I heard somewhere---don't know if
Dieselhead wrote:
Why not just drain the tank
and run the engine out of fuel? I always drain the tank and run the
fuel out on all the small engines that are used infrequently or
seasonally. My chainsaw is 20-30 years old and I took it into the shop
once a couple years ago because the
Dieselhead wrote:
My chainsaw seems very happy after years of being treated that way.
Letting a chain saw idle until it dies won't do any harm.
Running it out of fuel at full throttle (like cutting until it dies), not so
good.
Mitch.
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It may be a wash; if you don't run a 2 cycle dry, you'll have carb problems
eventually; the layers of varnish formed when the gas evaporates time and time
again will impair the function of the diaphragm
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URGENT REGULATORY ALERT (UPDATE)
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The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency confirmed that there is
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If they come up with a federal requirement to tell the consumer exactly how much
ethanol he's buying, and don't mandate that retailers sell E-anything, then it
might be a good thing.
Michigan, Indiana and Ohio don't require labeling unless it's E85, so I can
either call every station in
Uh, what's happening in 3 weeks? And who needs a little boost from
those who stand to gain from this idiocy? The article in our local rag
had a quote from the EPA idiot Lisa Something about how wonderful it was
to be using home-grown fuel, etc. then listed about 8 different groups
who
On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:35:30 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
Fortunately another pure-gas reader went there and actually tested the
stuff, finding it at ~8% alcohol.
So, what's the easy way to test the amount of ethanol? Specific gravity?
Wouldn't condensed water in the gasoline
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