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I know I'm late to the party but compare the PT Cruiser to the Chevy HHR. Imagine the talk at GM Hey that PT Cruiser is an ugly mother but they sell alot of 'em. Lets copy it. -Curt Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 07:08:03 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Chrysler To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Hendrik told us: The sooner Daimler-Benz gets rid of Chrysler, the better. I mean, that 300C would have to be the ugliest thing on the planet (it's like a shoebox on wheels) I think the PT Cruiser Convertable is uglier...with the top down, it looks like a claw foot bathtub on wheels. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 167K '87 Acura Legend 182K Litchfield Park, AZ .com - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Feb 20 14:29:43 2007 Received: from vms048pub.verizon.net ([206.46.252.48]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HJVzz-0003Wz-75 for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:29:43 + Received: from WFlaptop ([71.248.247.176]) by vms048.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Tue, 20 Feb 2007 08:28:59 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:24:23 -0500 From: Werner Fehlauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 14:29:43 - Jim - sounds like you acquire obsolete treasures like many of us do. So far I've managed to keep old computer stuff down to perhaps 8 cu. ft., which is a lot better than the ham radio gear, which still takes up well over 200 cu. ft. - and that's after taking several very nice (in their day) Model 28 TTY machines to the scrap yard, and finding a good home for an old Collins KWS-1, not to mention transformer and choke for a BC-610! And from monitoring this list, some have the same evil penchant by accumulating lots of M-B cars and parts... Life would be a lot simpler if I would just get up the courage and ambition to get rid of all that, instead of leaving it to someone else to throw out, eventually. Werner - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 2:12 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - PCs and Macs (was) Accents Jim - after more than 30 years of using PCs (starting with an 8080 in kit form), I suppose I'm too old to switch to one of those Apple/Mac/whatever boxes. Even worked up a box with a 6502 processor (as used in the early Apples) but on an S-100 bus, with a 300 baud modem using tape on the Kansas City standard. In those days memory was around $100 a K! I sit here not five feet from my 1802 kit box, and its successor the semi-kit 6502 OSI machine. (Cassette for both, floppies later added to the OSI.) And _its_ successor, the 68000 S-100 system. My first hard disk, and the first to even need a 16-bit address bus. What followed that? Not a PC, I looked at one and walked away in disgust. I waited, and succumbed to an original Mac. A NeXT followed it, a variety of work-origined Unixey machines, and now a variety of PPC Macs all running OSX. I still have them all. By the time I'm done with them they're worth far more to me as mementos than as assets to be sold. It's never too late to change, all you have to do is be willing to make a real upgrade. Not the same old SOS with maybe a few more mega-whatevers to it. Let us hope that Apple can survive long enough to get smug and get their ass kicked by something that is new and truly better. It won't come out of the Wintel hegemony, I'll tell you that. Wherever
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On Fri, 16 Feb 2007, OK Don wrote: I'd consider a Crossfire - but that's about it. Thats really a SLK with a custom skinjob IIRC. -j.
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On Fri, 16 Feb 2007, LarryT wrote: What's the concensus about the Chrysler Pacifica? Just curious - something about the looks I kinda like. Not in the market for anything - unless I fall into a W126 300SDL for a super price. Want one as a project car? make an offer. It runs but has lots of warts. (porcupine,compressor, driveline noise, belt tensioner) It has new oil lines and the tranny was replaced in the past 4 or 5 years Its in white marsh, MD. 410 335 2984 (its a black SDL, my brothers, parked at my parents. they want rid of it) Come on you know you want to make a Kaleb offer =) -j.
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Yup - the original SLK - not the new one. On 2/16/07, John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 16 Feb 2007, OK Don wrote: I'd consider a Crossfire - but that's about it. Thats really a SLK with a custom skinjob IIRC. -j. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
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yes, the aztec is very ugly, do they still make them? Another ugly vehicle is those scion things. those are fugly. Also, I have been seeing these toyota SUV things, those are really ugly too. LarryT wrote: I thought maybe I was the only one who thought they were ugly as hell! The cars look like they were designed by 8 year olds with ADD. I thought the Nissan Maxima was nice until my son drove one and said vision out the back was terrible because the C Pillars were so large. We had a 97 Chrysler Concord which my mother-in-law gave us (great MIL) the A Pillars caused visibility problems - especially when taking gentle curves. I wonder how much thought the designers really give to the people who have to eventually *drive* the new cars - after marketing sales have done their con jobs. The absolutely ugliest recent vehicle has to be the Pontiac Aztec. A mini-van looking like it's already been in a head-on collision right out of the showroom.. Later Dudes Dudettes -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com
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It's the R class - listed in the light truck group. I think I read somewhere that some of the metal that makes the MB version nice and strong was removed to lighten the Pacifica --- But - *if* I wanted a new car - I might look at the Pacifica. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
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Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yes, the aztec is very ugly, do they still make them? No, thank God. Although I hear they are pretty nice to own, likewise the Avalanche. Another ugly vehicle is those scion things. The Xb box on wheels? Not sure which is worse, that or the Honda Element. I think the Xa is probably a decent little car. Xb is overpriced and I can't get past the looks.
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Just wait until the Challenger comes out.. I checked it out at the Chicago Auto Show and if it looks anything like the prototype they'll have a winner on their hands Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 8:36 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Chrysler Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the chrysler 300 is one of the few domestic cars i'd actually buy. others include the ford focus, Jeep Cherokee (still made?), and that's about it. got any others? I rather like the look of the Dodge Magnum. Have never driven one, so can't say whether I'd buy one. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.
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I think the 300C doesn't really look all that bad, besides they do sell alot of them. You can't honestly judge every car by looks alone. Mercedes has had their share of ho hum plain janes too.. Looks don't make the car Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 8:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Chrysler Hendrik told us: The sooner Daimler-Benz gets rid of Chrysler, the better. I mean, that 300C would have to be the ugliest thing on the planet (it's like a shoebox on wheels) I think the PT Cruiser Convertable is uglier...with the top down, it looks like a claw foot bathtub on wheels. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 167K '87 Acura Legend 182K Litchfield Park, AZ .com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.
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On Fri, 16 Feb 2007, OK Don wrote: I'd consider a Crossfire - but that's about it. Thats really a SLK with a custom skinjob IIRC. -j. Yep- just recycled the chassis and shipped it w/new skin to Chrysler dealers who cannot and/or don't know how to fix the things and a supposed DCX mandate that MB dealers can't service them. Sounds like LOTS of fun to me. If you liked 'Merican cars from the 70's that you sat down low in with high belt lines and cheap plastic everywhere, you'll love the Magnum/Charger/300's. The Magnums are big cars with practically no cargo utility- its all about the styling. Tony Wirtel Tony Wirtel
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Just wait until the Challenger comes out.. I checked it out at the Chicago Auto Show and if it looks anything like the prototype they'll have a winner on their hands I can assure you that the production version will be very true to the concept vehicle. Ralph W. Currently engineering a good portion of the body panels on the Challenger.
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Hendrik Reissen'd The sooner Daimler-Benz gets rid of Chrysler, the better. I mean, that 300C would have to be the ugliest thing on the planet (it's like a shoebox on wheels) and I can't see how Chrysler has added anything to DB, except for cheapening the brand. You know, I really don't know why you are so excited about anything they do, considering that you are not a Mercedes customer. Perhaps you have stock in the company? Unless you have purchased a new car from an MB dealer or buy your parts from one, you are somebody else's customer and none of your money is flowing into their coffers. As to the 300C, have you ever seen one? I wonder. Around here, they have sold well and I think it's because off their unusual design. In a dark color, particularly with larger aftermarket wheels, they are quite an eye-catcher. I have also taken note that the shut lines and paint quality are very good. Maybe not Audi-like, but excellent for a North American built car. And the price is surprisingly lower than you might expect. So, you hate them. So what? They are not my taste either but I'm willing to admit that Chrysler has come up with a winner. And considering the dreck they used to produce, this is a good sign for a struggling American company. The other DC product that is selling well is the Sprinter. Not only Fedex, DHL and UPS sales, but also lots of ordinary truck buyers. They are everywhere. RLE
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As to the 300C, have you ever seen one? I wonder. Around here, they have sold well and I think it's because off their unusual design. Every time I see a 300 or newer Caddy, I think rolling bunker. Those windows look like gun slits to me. And what do the smaller women do, sit on a stack of phone books? I'd get claustrophobia if I had to drive one of those on a regular basis.
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the chrysler 300 is one of the few domestic cars i'd actually buy. others include the ford focus, Jeep Cherokee (still made?), and that's about it. got any others? On 2/16/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As to the 300C, have you ever seen one? I wonder. Around here, they have sold well and I think it's because off their unusual design. Every time I see a 300 or newer Caddy, I think rolling bunker. Those windows look like gun slits to me. And what do the smaller women do, sit on a stack of phone books? I'd get claustrophobia if I had to drive one of those on a regular basis. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
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The Grand Cherokee is still made - we own 2. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sunil Hari Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 6:17 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Chrysler the chrysler 300 is one of the few domestic cars i'd actually buy. others include the ford focus, Jeep Cherokee (still made?), and that's about it. got any others? On 2/16/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As to the 300C, have you ever seen one? I wonder. Around here, they have sold well and I think it's because off their unusual design. Every time I see a 300 or newer Caddy, I think rolling bunker. Those windows look like gun slits to me. And what do the smaller women do, sit on a stack of phone books? I'd get claustrophobia if I had to drive one of those on a regular basis. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 290Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The cherokee (XJ) went away in 2001. It was replaced by the jeep liberty (sold as cherokee in outside the US) in 2002. (The liberty has a non-solid front axle and an front pumpkin). I seem to recall that the reason was noise about the I6 powertrain not meeting emissions specs or somesuch... (I believe the I6 was sold in the wrangler through the end of the TJ production (2006)) FWIW, the liberty was available in a diesel in 2005 (only 10k sold in the US... but then Mercedes only sold what 3500 210.025's each of 1998-9) -j. -- Original message -- From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] the chrysler 300 is one of the few domestic cars i'd actually buy. others include the ford focus, Jeep Cherokee (still made?), and that's about it. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 16 13:26:53 2007 Received: from customer-domains.icp-qv1-irony14.iinet.net.au ([203.59.1.169]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) id 1HI36y-0005xz-IU for mercedes@okiebenz.com; Fri, 16 Feb 2007 13:26:53 + Received: from 203-173-30-251.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO yourwxrsc38umf) ([203.173.30.251]) by ozemail-mail.icp-qv1-irony14.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 16 Feb 2007 22:26:09 +0900 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj0KAFA/1UXLrR77UGdsb2JhbACOZwEBKpJ0AQEB X-IronPort-AV: i=4.14,180,1170601200; d=scan'208; a=135861435:sNHT11262660 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 23:56:06 +1030 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] DaimlerChrysler or Daimler, Chrysler? X-BeenThere: mercedes@okiebenz.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9.cp2 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_okiebenz.com.okiebenz.com List-Unsubscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com List-Post: mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 13:26:54 - Toyota has build a reputation for building affordable and reliable transportation, boring as the rest of the Asian cars but the perception of quality is there. - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] DaimlerChrysler or Daimler, Chrysler? Maybe they can sell to Toyota. They seem to be taking over the industry. Can't quite understand why. We have 2 Toyotas right now (in addition to 3 Fords, the Benz and a Chevy) and I don't think the Toyotas are any better than the rest. Didn't we just have this thread recently? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:30 PM To: mercedes Subject: [MBZ] DaimlerChrysler or Daimler, Chrysler? An emotional day for Chrysler's workers in Warren http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070214/BUSINESS01/70214011 Daimler open to partial sale of Chrysler http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17149205/ Detroit___s Slump Could Break Up Chrysler Group http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/15/business/15auto.html?ei=5094en=b87e6eeff177df5bhp=ex=1171515600partner=homepa gepagewanted=print Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.412 / Virus Database: 268.18.0/689 - Release Date: 15/02/2007
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Hendrik told us: The sooner Daimler-Benz gets rid of Chrysler, the better. I mean, that 300C would have to be the ugliest thing on the planet (it's like a shoebox on wheels) I think the PT Cruiser Convertable is uglier...with the top down, it looks like a claw foot bathtub on wheels. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 167K '87 Acura Legend 182K Litchfield Park, AZ .com
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I kinda like mine with scissor doors, 22s, black window tint, and a big thumper sound system, yo. --R ...that 300C would have to be the ugliest thing on the planet (it's like a shoebox on wheels)
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Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the chrysler 300 is one of the few domestic cars i'd actually buy. others include the ford focus, Jeep Cherokee (still made?), and that's about it. got any others? I rather like the look of the Dodge Magnum. Have never driven one, so can't say whether I'd buy one. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230
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They are horrible cars, I think they look nasty and visibility out of them, especially the psueo-wagon, is terrible, but they are VERY popular. Only real problem with them is that joke of a slab of cast iron, the Hemi. Only Chrysler would dust of a 1951 engine design and install it new vehicles today. That hog does produce hp, but at the cost of miserable milage (12 is good for a 300C Hemi, the trucks are worse). They are also HUGE. However, they sell like hotcakes around here, so Chrysler is doing something right. Put a decent motor in it and it might be a decent car. Not to my taste (I strongly prefer my 72 W115 for style), but they gotta sell cars. The biggest drawback to the current Chrysler lineup is that they have not a single vehicle that competes with the most popular Toyota and Honda best sellers. Peter
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I'd consider a Crossfire - but that's about it. I rather like the look of the Dodge Magnum. Have never driven one, so can't say whether I'd buy one. Allan -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager
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I think the PT Cruiser Convertable is uglier...with the top down, it looks like a claw foot bathtub on wheels. More like a claw foot easter basket on wheels. Doesn't it have a huge 'handle'? And that extremely high beltline. Bleah. Modern style: pants _and_ cars that don't fit! -- Jim
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I thought maybe I was the only one who thought they were ugly as hell! The cars look like they were designed by 8 year olds with ADD. I thought the Nissan Maxima was nice until my son drove one and said vision out the back was terrible because the C Pillars were so large. We had a 97 Chrysler Concord which my mother-in-law gave us (great MIL) the A Pillars caused visibility problems - especially when taking gentle curves. I wonder how much thought the designers really give to the people who have to eventually *drive* the new cars - after marketing sales have done their con jobs. The absolutely ugliest recent vehicle has to be the Pontiac Aztec. A mini-van looking like it's already been in a head-on collision right out of the showroom.. Later Dudes Dudettes -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Chrysler Hendrik told us: The sooner Daimler-Benz gets rid of Chrysler, the better. I mean, that 300C would have to be the ugliest thing on the planet (it's like a shoebox on wheels) I think the PT Cruiser Convertable is uglier...with the top down, it looks like a claw foot bathtub on wheels. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 167K '87 Acura Legend 182K Litchfield Park, AZ .com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.411 / Virus Database: 268.17.39/687 - Release Date: 2/14/2007
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What's the concensus about the Chrysler Pacifica? Just curious - something about the looks I kinda like. Not in the market for anything - unless I fall into a W126 300SDL for a super price. But - *if* I wanted a new car - I might look at the Pacifica. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Chrysler I'd consider a Crossfire - but that's about it. I rather like the look of the Dodge Magnum. Have never driven one, so can't say whether I'd buy one. Allan -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.412 / Virus Database: 268.18.0/689 - Release Date: 2/15/2007
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I prefer the 300 on looks but then I really don't want a van. If I were going to get something like that, I would prefer the new Suburban. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 3:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Chrysler What's the concensus about the Chrysler Pacifica? Just curious - something about the looks I kinda like. Not in the market for anything - unless I fall into a W126 300SDL for a super price. But - *if* I wanted a new car - I might look at the Pacifica. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Chrysler I'd consider a Crossfire - but that's about it. I rather like the look of the Dodge Magnum. Have never driven one, so can't say whether I'd buy one. Allan -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.412 / Virus Database: 268.18.0/689 - Release Date: 2/15/2007 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Aren't those built on a pretty much exclusivly MB chassis? Bob R - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Chrysler I'd consider a Crossfire - but that's about it. I rather like the look of the Dodge Magnum. Have never driven one, so can't say whether I'd buy one. Allan -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Elephantine. Biggest vehicle on the road short of a Suburban, and the visibility must stink, I can't see inside it while driving my Benz. Peter
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- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Chrysler Hendrik Reissen'd (ummnh that's Riessen, thank you) The sooner Daimler-Benz gets rid of Chrysler, the better. I mean, that 300C would have to be the ugliest thing on the planet (it's like a shoebox on wheels) and I can't see how Chrysler has added anything to DB, except for cheapening the brand. You know, I really don't know why you are so excited about anything they do, considering that you are not a Mercedes customer. Perhaps you have stock in the company? Unless you have purchased a new car from an MB dealer or buy your parts from one, you are somebody else's customer and none of your money is flowing into their coffers. Sorry Rodger, I won't ever say anything again about anything remotley to do with DC, DB or anything else unless I create a strong financial connection. I did buy a new HD motorcyle once, perhaps I'll save my comments when something about them comes up. Hang on I bought a Grundig TV new, so I can talk about them and how crappy they are nowadays. Although I do buy parts from DC now and again (well oil filters mostly) but I guess that doesn't qualify me to speak my mind about the future direction of the company. However if you decide that only people who have bought a new car from DC or hold shares in the company are allowed to say anything in relation to what DC is doing, then we may as well get Kaleb to ban all those who do not have shares or have bought a new MB. How many will that leave on the list? As to the 300C, have you ever seen one? I wonder. Around here, they have sold well and I think it's because off their unusual design. In a dark color, particularly with larger aftermarket wheels, they are quite an eye-catcher. I have also taken note that the shut lines and paint quality are very good. Maybe not Audi-like, but excellent for a North American built car. And the price is surprisingly lower than you might expect. So, you hate them. So what? They are not my taste either but I'm willing to admit that Chrysler has come up with a winner. And considering the dreck they used to produce, this is a good sign for a struggling American company. Yes I have seen one or two but even in the flesh they leave me cold, an austentacious vehicle for those who can't afford a real snob car. What really gets me about them(and a lot of other cars) is the small size of the side windows, must be like sitting in a coffin. Is it possible to check your blind spot? What about parking the thing? I hope they have put some sort of entertaiment pack in there for the kids because they can't look out of the windows to pass the time, unless they are into watching clouds. Now this probably something you have never done but I like to roll down the window and put my elbow on the window sill every now and again when I am cruising along, is that possible in a 300C? No, to me this is a car that was designed for yuppies to impress their yuppie friends. The other DC product that is selling well is the Sprinter. Not only Fedex, DHL and UPS sales, but also lots of ordinary truck buyers. They are everywhere. Yeah we got a lot of them as well, along with the Vito and MB100(which is a Korean van with a MB star on it) RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.412 / Virus Database: 268.18.0/689 - Release Date: 15/02/2007
