Whatever...
On Jan 29, 2008 3:21 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What topic would that be? When I setup the list I do not recall there
> being any certain topic that was only allowed to be spoke of.
>
> Zeitgeist wrote:
> > Well, please do, tell us all about your Mercedes Benz
Well there is what is known as the Nazi list, it is quite strict and
anal retentive.
Allan Streib wrote:
> On Jan 28, 2008, at 10:48 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:
>
>> this list has devolved into an almost off-topic, all the time affair.
>
> Well, you're right, but most listers seem to like it that way,
What topic would that be? When I setup the list I do not recall there
being any certain topic that was only allowed to be spoke of.
Zeitgeist wrote:
> Well, please do, tell us all about your Mercedes Benz automobiles. Couldn't
> be worse than the typical free-for-all bitch-fest about nothing th
While the 300TD awaits my mechanical attentions, I'm forced to plod along
through snow and sleet in the climate-controlled squalid discomfort of
heated leather seats found in my Audi Quattro--so sad for me
On Jan 29, 2008 11:19 AM, Alex Chamberlain
>
> I had three inches or so of snow with ice un
On Jan 28, 2008 10:22 PM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Care to bitch about them, instead of everything, but...?
>
> Stinking 115 and 123 don't have enough ground clearance or
> traction to negotiate our driveway right now. The 4wd Dodge
> is even having a time of it. If only I could
> Care to bitch about them, instead of everything, but...?
Stinking 115 and 123 don't have enough ground clearance or
traction to negotiate our driveway right now. The 4wd Dodge
is even having a time of it. If only I could get a 4wd 124
diesel wagon! The MB's are all grounded, at least until we
Well that little 8v engine is tough if you give it reasonable care.
Mine had close to 200K miles on it when I sold mine, and it still ran
like new. Plus it's a non-interference engine unlike the later 16v.
Allan
On Jan 28, 2008, at 11:22 PM, Kevin wrote:
> Not really. All four of the ones
Not really. All four of the ones in the yard are in varying states of
disrepair, and even if they weren't, the stupid 8v A2 jetta I have is the
current daily driver of choice, since 87 octane is WAY cheaper than diesel
right now.
It's not in the same class of car as your B4 passat wagon was, so I'
Alan,
Actually he is my favorite saint.. That's Saint Fu! {::<)
I ask for his invocation many times..
Take care,
Chuck
On Jan 28, 2008, at 8:35 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
>
> Please STFU if you're just going to gripe.
>
>
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fair enough...
On Jan 28, 2008 8:04 PM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Jan 28, 2008, at 10:48 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:
>
> > this list has devolved into an almost off-topic, all the time affair.
>
> Well, you're right, but most listers seem to like it that way, or are
> at least toler
On Jan 28, 2008, at 10:48 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:
> this list has devolved into an almost off-topic, all the time affair.
Well, you're right, but most listers seem to like it that way, or are
at least tolerant of it. I find a lot of it interesting, especially
the off-topic technical/mechanical
Agreed, and that's what I typically do, and counsel others to do, quite
frequently...but, this list has devolved into an almost off-topic, all the
time affair. I've been member of this list (or the mbz.org list) since '03,
and it's been an invaluable resource for most of that time...but, not so
mu
Well, OK that was a bit harsh of a response I guess. But the thread
subject pretty clearly indicates no MBZ content. Just delete it and
move on if you're not interested.
Allan
On Jan 28, 2008, at 10:39 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:
> Uh, this thread has no Mercedes content...capisce? This list is
Uh, this thread has no Mercedes content...capisce? This list is ostensibly
for the discussion of Mercedes Benz vehicles. There's the banned list and
limitless other resources out there bitching about whatever crosses one's
mind. Just sayin'
On Jan 28, 2008 7:35 PM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTE
Pot? Kettle? Where's YOUR Mercedes Benz contribution to this thread?
Please STFU if you're just going to gripe.
Allan
On Jan 28, 2008, at 10:29 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:
> Well, please do, tell us all about your Mercedes Benz automobiles.
> Couldn't
> be worse than the typical free-for-all bit
Well, please do, tell us all about your Mercedes Benz automobiles. Couldn't
be worse than the typical free-for-all bitch-fest about nothing that seems
to go on endlessly around here.
Why not keep it slightly more focused on the topic at hand, eh?
On Jan 28, 2008 7:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAI
No, they are all doing fine, as far as what Im driving. Got plenty of
projects though.
Zeitgeist wrote:
> Care to bitch about them, instead of everything, but...?
>
> On Jan 28, 2008 6:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I have a few
>>
>> Zeitgeist wrote:
>>> Does anyone
Care to bitch about them, instead of everything, but...?
On Jan 28, 2008 6:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a few
>
> Zeitgeist wrote:
> > Does anyone here own a Mercedes Benz?
>
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> Does anyone here own a Mercedes Benz?
>
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance
> Larry,
>
> I could sure use some more input.
>
> I also have Tri Care and for the first few years it was wonderful.
> Howeve
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Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 3:19 PM
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> Hi Dave,
> I'm in a similar boat - 57 and disabled for ~10 years. Since I went on SS
>
LarryT wrote:
>
> I believe the biggest problem the military has is underpaid enisted men -
> especially those with families who find they need food stamps to get by.
How about the guard and reserve troops who get deactivated one day short
of earning military benefits for their full time service
Does anybody else see the irony in how long this post got?
Can we trim things please folks? My spacebar is gonna wear out.
-Curt
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:08:58 -0500
From: "dave walton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance:
To: "Mercedes Disc
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> From: "dave walton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 8:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance:
>
>
> > How about the military? Aside from stories abou
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> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 7:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance:
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> >I thought all the anti-establishment types like you had already
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>I thought
dave walton wrote:
>
> I thought all the anti-establishment types like you had already left for
> Canada?
Those weren't anti-establishment, they were just draft avoiders.
The establishment in Canada is trying to catch up to the English nanny-state,
but every time it looks like they've caught
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Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance:
> Awhile back a friend of mine was in Germany when his appendix started
> acting
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> John,
>
> There are some truly destitute people in our country through no fault of
> their own and no fault of their background, but this is a
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Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance: was: Coffee is
y
> Champus!
>
> I am 55 years of age and disabled - Who the heck do you think is gong to
> give my any kind of insurance health or life?
>
>
> Dave H...
>
>
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> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:07 AM
> To: &
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> From: "dave walton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:49 AM
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> > Until everyone that needs medical attention can get it, I don&
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Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Ins
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance: was: Coffee is Hot
> Your experience is atypical - and that's a good thing.
>
> -Dave Walton
>
> On Jan 11, 2008 9:26 AM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Actually, they're not getting *all* of your tax
> dollars. Every school district receives a fixed
> amount from the state and federal government for every
> student in attendance.
They may not be getting it, but I'm sure giving it!
It's not that they'd notice directly, but if getting
money fro
Actually, they're not getting *all* of your tax
dollars. Every school district receives a fixed
amount from the state and federal government for every
student in attendance. They're rabid about this in
most district, making sure that every last child is
accounted for, as each one means $$ in the
"dave walton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Sorry, but I have to leave to make a living so I can afford my
> health insurance premiums.
Well I'm glad you realize it's not my responsibility.
To quote Calvin Coolidge: "The normal must care for themselves."
Allan
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Allan Streib wrote:
I was responding to the earlier point
> about private insurers deny claims for necessary treatment, with my
> personal experience that the only denials my family and I ever
> encountered being from the government plan (Medicare).
>
> Allan
I have worked for health insurers a
Thanks,
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Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:05 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance
Tom Hargrave wrote:
> Sure,
If you have no credit to speak of, what impact can there be?
It is passed on to the bills of the rest of the users. Why am I
paying $20.00 for tylenol? I could have just brought my own with me
and saved that charge. The funky gown got billed too. My jammies
were not the right fashion. Sa
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I know this WW2 retired Navy veteran, 28 years with 100% disability, now
83.Takes home more than I gross.
Also has this thing, "Tricare for Life" which just about pays 100% of
EVERYTHING of all his (and his wife's) surgeries, hospital stays, ER bills,
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There is a vote with wallet process going on in Seattle. The public
enrollment has dropped to 49k from a high of 96k. Where are the
kids? Private schools. For each missing kid, the district is not
getting its $5500 per student. It does cost the parents at least
that much for tuition.
Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance: was: Coffee is Hot
Actually - that would violate the Constitution.
Article I, Section 8, Clause 3
-Dave Walton
On Jan 11, 2008 12:19 PM, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's not but we are fast heading towards
ge-
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Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:21 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance: was: Coffee is Hot
figure i should join the navy? can i have my own nuclear sub?
On Jan 11, 2008
08 11:16 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance: was: Coffee is Hot
And the reason they maintain the roads is for "National Defense", right?
They do it because it would not get done otherwise and it is in
everyone's best interest that it b
Scott Ritchey wrote:
> What paragraph of
> the Constitution authorizes that?
The same paragraph that authorizes 95% of federal spending.
What? You can't see it? It's right there, hidden between
the lines in the commerce clause. [/rant]
Mitch
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My bad.
Sorry, but I have to leave to make a living so I can afford my health
insurance premiums. I have a server that needs attention.
Later...
-Dave Walton
On Jan 11, 2008 12:23 PM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "dave walton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > If you don't care abo
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance: was: Coffee is Hot
>
>
> I have to question the underlying and unstated assumption that it'
"dave walton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If you don't care about people that cannot get adequate medical
> treatment, I can't help you. I'm glad that everyone in your world
> is doing well, really.
You are jumping to conclusions. I was responding to the earlier point
about private insurers d
figure i should join the navy? can i have my own nuclear sub?
On Jan 11, 2008 11:13 AM, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Then again, I'm a health-care provider in another government-run program -
> the US Navy. I can say that our quality of care and billing procedures
> and
> coverage ar
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I have to question the underlying
And the reason they maintain the roads is for "National Defense", right?
They do it because it would not get done otherwise and it is in
everyone's best interest that it be done.
-Dave Walton
On Jan 11, 2008 12:09 PM, Scott Ritchey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have to question the underlying
I have to question the underlying and unstated assumption that it's the
Federal Government's job to provide health care for all. What paragraph of
the Constitution authorizes that?
Scott
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Tom Hargrave wrote:
> Sure, but if you are poor you have no credit.
So then you only have "health insurance" if you are too poor to care
about credit (and then if you try to move up from that you won't have
credit for some time). I imagine there are quite a few people who are
in between dirt p
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of John Robbins
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:22 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ]
If you don't care about people that cannot get adequate medical
treatment, I can't help you.
I'm glad that everyone in your world is doing well, really.
-Dave Walton
On Jan 11, 2008 11:32 AM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "dave walton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Spend a day vol
My wife had to do a resident rotation at Boston City Hospital (remember
the show St. Elsewhere?). A lot of their patients were walk(or
transport)-ins, and they got excellent care, in some cases better than
private payers, because Unkie was footing the bill and there was not a
lot of oversight
] National Health Insurance
Sunil Hari wrote:
> Not pay it. it's really that simple. Public hospitals are specifically
NOT
> allowed to send their bills to collection agencies so they have to eat the
> cost.
They may not send it to collections but does it still affect
Friday, January 11, 2008 10:59 AM
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance: was: Coffee is Hot
> I've met many people that wish they could get health care from the VA.
>
> The VA facility here is actually top-notch. Much improved from 20 y
"dave walton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Spend a day volunteering in a soup kitchen in the inner city, then get
> back to me, okay?
> I'm in Cleveland Ohio, and maybe we have it worse that other areas.
> but just because your limited experience has not brought you in
> contact with the realitie
cedes Discussion List"
Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance
> Sunil Hari wrote:
>> Not pay it. it's really that simple. Public hospitals are specifically
>> NOT
>> allowed to send their bills to collection agencies so they have to eat
>> the
&g
11, 2008 11:07 AM
To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'"
Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance
> Walk into any public hospital with no money & no insurance & you will
> discover that we all do have healthcare. Some of my relatives are poor &
> they do this any ti
Don't pay.
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance
Tom Har
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Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:00 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance: was: Coff
Sunil Hari wrote:
> Not pay it. it's really that simple. Public hospitals are specifically NOT
> allowed to send their bills to collection agencies so they have to eat the
> cost.
They may not send it to collections but does it still affect credit?
John
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Not pay it. it's really that simple. Public hospitals are specifically NOT
allowed to send their bills to collection agencies so they have to eat the
cost.
Of course, if you try this at a private hospital, they'll stabilize you in
the ER and then boot you.
On 1/11/08, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROT
Then again, I'm a health-care provider in another government-run program -
the US Navy. I can say that our quality of care and billing procedures and
coverage are second to none.
Billing is easy when it's all "free." And with every procedure and every
patient I've seen, cost has been no object -
Tom Hargrave wrote:
> Walk into any public hospital with no money & no insurance & you will
> discover that we all do have healthcare. Some of my relatives are poor &
> they do this any time they are sick.
What do they do when the hospital gives them a bill?
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Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 9:49 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance
Until everyone that needs medical attention can get it, I don't really
care if some of us have to put up with inconveniences.
I've met many people that wish they could get health care from the VA.
The VA facility here is actually top-notch. Much improved from 20 years ago.
-Dave Walton
On Jan 11, 2008 10:36 AM, Rory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Keep in mind that the government already runs one health care entity,
> any
Spend a day volunteering in a soup kitchen in the inner city, then get
back to me, okay?
I'm in Cleveland Ohio, and maybe we have it worse that other areas.
but just because your limited experience has not brought you in
contact with the realities of life in America does not mean all is
well.
-Dav
Until everyone that needs medical attention can get it, I don't really
care if some of us have to put up with inconveniences. No doubt, we
will always be able to pay more and get better service - even for our
health care. This IS America, after all...
I love it when pudgy white upper middle class
Keep in mind that the government already runs one health care entity,
anyone remember the VA? With that as an example, I'm VERY frightened
of Government health care.
Saw a quote on Joesherlock.com awhile back: "Government health care;
combining the efficiency of the US Government with the compas
"dave walton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Your experience is atypical - and that's a good thing.
Is it?
Nobody in my family the I know of has ever had private insurance deny
anything. That includes all of my Dad's lung cancer surgery,
radiation, and chemo over more than a decade, my mom's k
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> From: "dave walton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 8:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance: was: Coffee
Loren Faeth wrote:
>
> No, WAY more than anything that can exist in business. Nothing in
> business can be screwed up the way a government can screw it up
Nothing in *continuing business* can be that screwed up, because
businesses run like governments fail quickly.
Mitch.
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> Capitalism then says they don't get any. I would argue
> that system is not appropriate for providing healthcare.
Any proposed replacement that doesn't allow for meaningful
competition, wherein dissatisfied 'customers' can't vote
with their feet (and associated dollars) is doomed to fail.
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> Unfortunately,
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> To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
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> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 12:04 AM
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> > Sort of like the private sector?
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>> Sort of like the private sector?
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>> On Jan 9, 2008 6:16 PM, Lar
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> >I have a friend who has many years in the insurance business. His
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> > is valued by me and it is th
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From: "WALTER WARREN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] National Health Insurance: was: Coffee is Hot
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dave walton wrote:
> Are you assuming that we all think it should not be covered?
> Just what are we supposed to do with all the crazies out there?
> I suspect counseling and drugs are cheaper than a jail cell even with
> housing and food subsidies.
And a jail cell certainly isn't going to solve t
Are you assuming that we all think it should not be covered?
Just what are we supposed to do with all the crazies out there?
I suspect counseling and drugs are cheaper than a jail cell even with
housing and food subsidies.
-Dave Walton
On Jan 9, 2008 1:39 AM, WALTER WARREN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro
Any program that involves the government handling the money, or that
is not based on individual choice and responsibility, will fail.
RICHARD FIne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What really gets me, is you know that Hilary knows that in no way
> could the Fed run a National Health Care program...
my understanding is that social security is not "run" though in any
meaningful way. the money is taken by force and then spent by the
government on unrelated projects. then you eventually get back far far less
than you would had you invested it in any other program and eat cat food
while fighting
What really gets me, is you know that Hilary knows that in no way could the Fed
run a National Health Care program... it really pisses me off when they even
bring it up...
Each time someone talks to me possivie about it, I ask them... well, what did
the Feds do to Social Security Medicare
I have a friend who has many years in the insurance business. His opinion
is valued by me and it is this :"Keep the politicians out of the ins.
coverage business. We just had a major cost increase because the WA State
lawmakers deemed it necessary that mental health should be covered."
URGH!!!
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From: "John Robbins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> archer wrote:
>> In your opinion, perhaps. In my opinion it's never too late to discuss
>> and
>> offer solutions for major problems that face America.
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> Its also a very political topic... something best reserved for ban
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