Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Diesel Engines

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

I keep waiting for someone to develop a bioreactor fuel source. Oh wait - I
think that is called a horse. But one without all the balky tendencies and
with a smaller package would be nice.
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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Diesel Engines

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

"Continuous improvement"

Isn't that what human life is all about?

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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Diesel Engines

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Are you believing there is an engine under there somewhere?

Makes me want an OM621, or a 1940 vintage Shovey 6 cyl, or a frod 300 
Six.  Or, a M180.



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[MBZ] New Mercedes Diesel Engines

[Craig via Mercedes]

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[MBZ] New Mercedes Diesel

[LarryT]

Hello,
Was reading about the new Diesel on the MB website and they talk about 
new piezoelectric fuel injectors which contribute to the efficiency of the 
engine.

I'm trying to understand how the piezoelectric concept helps the 
injectors?  I read Wikipaedia and it says Piezioelectric is the ability of 
some materials (notably crystals and certain ceramics) to generate an 
electric potential  and while I understand what they are saying (sort of), 
I can't grasp how it helps fuel injectors.

Previous injectors were controlled by electrical pulses from the ECU as 
I understand it - but I can't see how the Piezio effect would be better.

Can someone provide a easily understood paragraph or 2?

BTW, the new diesel is now available in the E Class, ML, GL and R class. 
While I cannot afford a new MB perhaps in a few years I can find a nice used 
one.

Thx -

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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Diesel

[Tom Hargrave]

They respond (open and close)  much faster, allowing more control of the
injection cycle.

Thanks, Tom
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-Original Message-
From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: 10/18/07 12:09 PM
Subject: [MBZ] New Mercedes Diesel

Hello,
Was reading about the new Diesel on the MB website and they talk
about 
new piezoelectric fuel injectors which contribute to the efficiency of
the 
engine.

I'm trying to understand how the piezoelectric concept helps the 
injectors?  I read Wikipaedia and it says Piezioelectric is the ability
of 
some materials (notably crystals and certain ceramics) to generate an 
electric potential  and while I understand what they are saying (sort
of), 
I can't grasp how it helps fuel injectors.

Previous injectors were controlled by electrical pulses from the ECU
as 
I understand it - but I can't see how the Piezio effect would be better.

Can someone provide a easily understood paragraph or 2?

BTW, the new diesel is now available in the E Class, ML, GL and R
class. 
While I cannot afford a new MB perhaps in a few years I can find a nice
used 
one.

Thx -

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Diesel/Piezio

[JFreezn]

 
Piezio to me was:  hit a rock, generate a spark.  This would be  the 
opposite;  provide a spark will move a valve, a glorified solenoid  valve.  
These 
electronic injectors are so quick that they permit 3 to 5  firings per power 
stroke, which controls the severity of the flame front travel  and gets more 
power 
while reducing the noise level and emissions.

They  respond (open and close)  much faster, allowing more control of  the
injection cycle.



Jim  Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 264 K miles 
98 ML 320, 152 K  miles



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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Diesel/Piezio

[Hendrik Fay]

And they would more than likely cost more each than an old 300D.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 Piezio to me was:  hit a rock, generate a spark.  This would be  the 
 opposite;  provide a spark will move a valve, a glorified solenoid  valve.  
 These 
 electronic injectors are so quick that they permit 3 to 5  firings per power 
 stroke, which controls the severity of the flame front travel  and gets more 
 power 
 while reducing the noise level and emissions.

 They  respond (open and close)  much faster, allowing more control of  the
 injection cycle.



 Jim  Friesen
 Phoenix AZ
 79 300SD, 264 K miles 
 98 ML 320, 152 K  miles




   

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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Diesel/Piezio

[LarryT]

Thx Jim -
Excellent explanation.  Now I understand why Piezio is the best way to 
drive an injector.

That's quite a leap forward.

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Diesel/Piezio



 Piezio to me was:  hit a rock, generate a spark.  This would be  the
 opposite;  provide a spark will move a valve, a glorified solenoid  valve. 
 These
 electronic injectors are so quick that they permit 3 to 5  firings per 
 power
 stroke, which controls the severity of the flame front travel  and gets 
 more power
 while reducing the noise level and emissions.

 They  respond (open and close)  much faster, allowing more control of  the
 injection cycle.



 Jim  Friesen
 Phoenix AZ
 79 300SD, 264 K miles
 98 ML 320, 152 K  miles



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Re: [MBZ] New Mercedes Diesel

[OK Don]

Re: Piezioelectric is the ability of some materials (notably
crystals and certain ceramics) to generate an electric potential.

The material has two modes - if you apply pressure or deform it, it
will generate electricity, per the article. However, if you apply
electricity to it, it will deform, or move. Hence, you can use it to
very quickly open and close a valve 


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