Re: [MBZ] OT- microwave ovens

2024-01-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I hate that too, but we have a combo convection/air fryer countertop unit and at least it does get used pretty often. The worst are appliance "gadgets" taking up space but that you never use because they are only useful for *one* thing. On Thu, Jan 4, 2024, at 16:58, dan penoff.com via

Re: [MBZ] OT- microwave ovens

2024-01-04 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Agreed. I got introduced to air fryers via the youngest son. I like to refer to them as “adult Easy-Bake ovens”! They definitely have a place and can do some serious things with frozen convenience-type foods as well as warming up pizza. That said, it’s another appliance taking up counter or

Re: [MBZ] OT- microwave ovens

2024-01-04 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Every microwave oven I've ever examined had three different switches in series with the current to the main guts. What you describe should not be possible, unless some cheap-ass really compromised on the essential safety of the design. However you dispose of this POS, make sure you completely

Re: [MBZ] OT- microwave ovens

2024-01-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Combo convection oven/microwave seems odd to me because the operations are so different. You're essentially talking about a combo toaster oven/microwave. We have a combo toaster oven/convection oven/air fryer. The air fryer part is pretty garbage, it works okay but is too small to cook a

Re: [MBZ] OT- microwave ovens

2024-01-04 Thread MB list etc via Mercedes
Our microwave had the first example I've run across of failing "on". You put food in it, started the cooking cycle, then the bell sounded and it turned off. When you open the door, it turns on again. The only way to turn it off is to un-plug it. Now we have to leave it unplugged, open the door,

Re: [MBZ] OT- microwave ovens

2024-01-03 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 3 Jan 2024 16:03:44 -0800 Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > > Years ago, on the DEW Line, operators were getting cataracts from > > back-scatter. > > Had they worn their gold thin-film (IR-blocking) aviator's sunglasses > they'd have been fine, and looking sharp too! Well, yes and no.

Re: [MBZ] OT- microwave ovens

2024-01-03 Thread Frederick Moir via Mercedes
Jim, et al. The solution was to move the operation center 100 meters away out from underneath the antenna. Genius. Fred. On Wed, Jan 3, 2024 at 7:04 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Years ago, on the DEW Line, operators were getting cataracts from > back-scatter. >

Re: [MBZ] OT- microwave ovens

2024-01-03 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Years ago, on the DEW Line, operators were getting cataracts from > back-scatter. Had they worn their gold thin-film (IR-blocking) aviator's sunglasses they'd have been fine, and looking sharp too! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] OT- microwave ovens

2024-01-03 Thread Frederick Moir via Mercedes
Years ago, on the DEW Line, operators were getting cataracts from back-scatter. Nothing changes. Fred. On Wed, Jan 3, 2024 at 5:37 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > My grandmother had coffee cups that had a metal accent. Whatever that > metal was it was enough to

Re: [MBZ] OT- microwave ovens

2024-01-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
My grandmother had coffee cups that had a metal accent. Whatever that metal was it was enough to smoke several microwaves. My grandfather finally got rid of those mugs... -Curt On Wednesday, January 3, 2024 at 05:05:53 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: It's amazing how

Re: [MBZ] OT- microwave ovens

2024-01-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
It's amazing how small a residual piece of aluminum foil needs to be to cause a microwave to go ballistic. On Wed, Jan 3, 2024 at 5:02 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > And if that candy bar in your pocket is getting squishy, take a few > steps back… > > Or if it's

Re: [MBZ] OT- microwave ovens

2024-01-03 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> And if that candy bar in your pocket is getting squishy, take a few steps > back… Or if it's getting hard to read the label on it... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] OT- microwave ovens

2024-01-03 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
And if that candy bar in your pocket is getting squishy, take a few steps back… -D > On Jan 3, 2024, at 4:52 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Jan 2024 14:22:17 -0600 Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Do you have to wear the lead shield like at the dentist office when >>

Re: [MBZ] OT- microwave ovens

2024-01-03 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Microwaves are non-ionizing radiation, so, no, you do not have to wear a > lead apron. Just keep your eyes out of the way! However, high-voltage vacuum tubes can generate ionizing radiation, and not necessarily on purpose, so that is something to beware of. I don't know how likely magnetrons

Re: [MBZ] OT- microwave ovens

2024-01-03 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 3 Jan 2024 14:22:17 -0600 Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: > Do you have to wear the lead shield like at the dentist office when > they take x-rays? Microwaves are non-ionizing radiation, so, no, you do not have to wear a lead apron. Just keep your eyes out of the way! Craig

Re: [MBZ] OT- microwave ovens

2024-01-03 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> will boil a cup of water in seconds, I’ve never had a microwave that powerful > before. For that matter, if it’s used at full power for any length of time, > it can pop the breaker it’s on… The old-school half-wave rectifier magnetron power supply can only draw significant power from the line

Re: [MBZ] OT- microwave ovens

2024-01-03 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
That sounds like ours. Dang thing will boil a cup of water in seconds, I’ve never had a microwave that powerful before. For that matter, if it’s used at full power for any length of time, it can pop the breaker it’s on… -D > On Jan 3, 2024, at 3:28 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > >

Re: [MBZ] OT- microwave ovens

2024-01-03 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Do you think it still produces as much power as it initially did? My wife whines that it's 'weak', but I followed the test instructions I'd dug up, and it's still within spec. It's just that newer inverter-based microwaves can be more powerful than this. From my notes: > She'd complained

Re: [MBZ] OT- microwave ovens

2024-01-03 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Do you have to wear the lead shield like at the dentist office when they take x-rays? Randy On 03/01/2024 2:19 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Magic Chef for the “as close as you can get to original commercial-grade microwave” approach. We have one in the AZ house that could melt

Re: [MBZ] OT- microwave ovens

2024-01-03 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Magic Chef for the “as close as you can get to original commercial-grade microwave” approach. We have one in the AZ house that could melt steel, I believe, it’s so powerful. -D > On Jan 3, 2024, at 3:04 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 03/01/2024 1:39 PM, Jim Cathey via

Re: [MBZ] OT- microwave ovens

2024-01-03 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 03/01/2024 1:39 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: Well, my 1978 Amana is still working well... :-) -- Jim Do you think it still produces as much power as it initially did? We had an Amana for many years but my wife began to think it did not work as well as it had in the past and

Re: [MBZ] OT- microwave ovens

2024-01-03 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Well, my 1978 Amana is still working well... :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT- microwave ovens

2024-01-03 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Not specifically for a convection combo. My microwave is a Goldstar (I belive now the brand would be called LG) and is about 30 years old. I don't know if current models will deliver the same longevity but the old ones were evidently well-made. On Wed, Jan 3, 2024, at 14:01, MB list etc via

[MBZ] OT- microwave ovens

2024-01-03 Thread MB list etc via Mercedes
It's time for a new one - wife wants one with a combo convection feature. Anyone have recommendations for or against various brands? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options

Re: [MBZ] OT: Microwave ovens

2008-05-02 Thread Mitch Haley
Craig McCluskey wrote: Another problem is that the cooling fan is jammed and doesn't run. That's what you get for not having in store pickup of appliances and electronics these days. I bought two window air conditioners last year and never unboxed them. I hope UPS didn't convert them into scrap

Re: [MBZ] OT: Microwave ovens

2008-05-02 Thread Jim Cathey
in the market for a new microwave...I was not impressed. So far I've been very pleased with the Amana in our kitchen. Built like the proverbial brick s***house inside, very repairable. Of course, it dates from the late 70's when those things were most definitely _not_ cheap. I've had to do

Re: [MBZ] OT: Microwave ovens

2008-05-02 Thread John Robbins
Jim Cathey wrote: And it doesn't beep at me. Ever. I hate beeping. My mircowave gets upset if I haven't taken the food out fast enough for its liking... about every 30 seconds or so it beeps at me. Kinda overkill IMO. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT: Microwave ovens

2008-05-02 Thread Rich Thomas
I like that feature. Many times I have finished supper or whatever, next meal I go to put something in the wave, and there I find part of the last meal. Oooops. Our dryer does it too, that is really annoying. --R John Robbins wrote: Jim Cathey wrote: And it doesn't beep at me. Ever.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Microwave ovens

2008-05-02 Thread pm7088
We bought a 1st generation AMANA in about 1977, cost about $800 (Real $), made out of stainless steel, built like a Benz bank vault. Our 2 year old Frigidaire is the hero of the kitchen. I'm amazed when I use it. Put in left overs, push warm button and the are warm, regardless of weight,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Microwave ovens

2008-05-02 Thread John Robbins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Put in left overs, push warm button and the are warm, regardless of weight, quantity, etc. How do they do that? How do they thaw red meat perfectly without cooking it a little? I wish mine would work that well! The meat always gets a little browned on the outside.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Microwave ovens

2008-05-02 Thread Rolf
I want one of the new ones that is a toaster, a grill, a convection oven AND microwave. Cant beat that with a bat. -Rolf Craig McCluskey wrote: We've been in the market for a new microwave oven. After looking at the local hardware store (where the microwave ovens were still in their boxes)

Re: [MBZ] OT: Microwave ovens

2008-05-02 Thread Rich Thomas
WOW! A floor polish AND a dessert topping! --R Rolf wrote: I want one of the new ones that is a toaster, a grill, a convection oven AND microwave. Cant beat that with a bat. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list

[MBZ] OT - Microwave ovens

2008-05-02 Thread Wilton Strickland
'Bought an Amana for $180 at U-Tapao Royal Thai Naval Base, Thailand, base exchange in Nov '72; brought it home in the bomb bay of a B-52 Jan '73. The unit was bigger than most units now and HEAVY; 'built like a Benz 123. 'Used it for 24 yrs and was still working fine, but plastic ceiling in it

Re: [MBZ] OT: Microwave ovens

2008-05-02 Thread Curt Raymond
Just add water, makes its own sauce. Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 11:30:28 -0500 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Microwave ovens To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed WOW

Re: [MBZ] OT: Microwave ovens

2008-05-02 Thread Rolf
. -Rolf Curt Raymond wrote: Just add water, makes its own sauce. Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 11:30:28 -0500 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Microwave ovens To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO

Re: [MBZ] OT - Microwave ovens

2008-05-02 Thread Douglas
Subject: [MBZ] OT - Microwave ovens 'Bought an Amana for $180 at U-Tapao Royal Thai Naval Base, Thailand, base exchange in Nov '72; brought it home in the bomb bay of a B-52 Jan '73. The unit was bigger than most units now and HEAVY; 'built like a Benz 123. 'Used it for 24 yrs and was still

Re: [MBZ] OT: Microwave ovens

2008-05-02 Thread Bill R
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 2:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Microwave ovens What you really want is this http://www.vorwerk.com/thermomix/html/ My wife is all hot on it but the $1k+ price tag makes parts of me shrivel. (2008-05-02 14:47:49) *rolf:* hey (2008-05-02 14

Re: [MBZ] OT: Microwave ovens

2008-05-02 Thread OK Don
Our 1975 Kenmore - bottom of the line - microwave finally died - with that burning transformer smell - this last Dec. The new (cheap) one that replaced it is also too light to push the buttons on without pushing it off the counter. I need to apply some glue to hold it still. On Fri, May 2, 2008

Re: [MBZ] OT: Microwave ovens

2008-05-02 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 02 May 2008 06:43:10 -0400 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig McCluskey wrote: Another problem is that the cooling fan is jammed and doesn't run. That's what you get for not having in store pickup of appliances and electronics these days. I bought two window air

[MBZ] OT: Microwave ovens

2008-05-01 Thread Craig McCluskey
We've been in the market for a new microwave oven. After looking at the local hardware store (where the microwave ovens were still in their boxes) and online, I decided to get one from Amazon.com. I chose the Sharp R-230KK Black 800-Watt 4/5 cubic foot oven because many of the others are 17+

Re: [MBZ] OT: Microwave ovens

2008-05-01 Thread Mitch Haley
Craig McCluskey wrote: I put it on our formica counter and immediately noticed that the hard plastic (front) and metal (rear) feet slide very easily over the counter, especially when you try to push to button to open the door. It might be easier to put a dab of silicone on each foot than to

Re: [MBZ] OT: Microwave ovens

2008-05-01 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 02 May 2008 00:31:03 -0400 Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig McCluskey wrote: I put it on our formica counter and immediately noticed that the hard plastic (front) and metal (rear) feet slide very easily over the counter, especially when you try to push to button to open

Re: [MBZ] OT: Microwave ovens

2008-05-01 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: going to open the thing to try to free the fan (I heard some fan-blade-banging-against-something type noises when I first powered it up), but they have tamper-resistant torx screws holding the cover on. Bits to drive