Use a proper 220V plug though so no one plugs in something they ought
not to.
Friends of ours bought a home that had been occupied by some Asian folks
previously and fried a new microwave oven the first time they plugged it in.
Seems the previous folks had switched some of the kitchen outlets
'Seems criminal and negligent or, at least, bordering on such.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Converting euro 220v appliance to 120v
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:36 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
'Seems criminal and negligent or, at least, bordering on such.
My inspector checked every outlet fixture. I thought it seemed like
overkill, but I didn't ask. Now I know why. :)
That said he probably wouldn't have checked the
You could mount a double box in the wall with a box-mount combination
circuit breaker/GFCI (if they're still avaialble) in one side and a 220v
(right angle) receptacle in the other. If you want to plug in more than two
appliances, then mount a triple box in the wall with two receptacles. That
--R wrote:
Yeah, but it's Chairman Mao we are talking about here, he always has one
foot in the grave (which he has dug in the back yard) anyway.
Besides, what is life if you aren't living on the ragged edge?
You know me too well.
I should have done the Red Bull sky drop this week.
mao
Mountain Man wrote:
Jim wrote:
Unless, of course, the thingy itself was designed to
be strapped (internally) for 120V. Unlikely, I'd say.
Or try it on 120V and see how happy it is. It'll be
running at 1/4 power, though.
1/4 power and 1/4 speed? - might not be bad.
I suspect it would be
Could you use a computer power supply to provide be the converter?
No. Those operate (internally) by rectifying a high-voltage DC
supply, then powering an inverter from that to supply whatever
voltons are required. If not designed to supply 220V, which
would be a step-UP and not the step-DOWN
Like I said --
Wilton
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From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Converting euro 220v appliance to 120v
Wire a receptacle 220 volt. You'll
But he's not spinning vinyl; he's merely spinning a grinder.
Wilton
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From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Converting euro 220v appliance to 120v
is strap some easy rewire fix?
If designed for it, yes. If not, no way Jose.
2:1 step up sounds like lab equipment?
Yup. Handy to have around, sometimes. Somewhere I've
got one. Heavy little bugger, I know that.
Easiest thing is to get a different appliance. Second-easiest
get a
If you have an electric stove or oven in the kitchen you have 220V right
there, just run another outlet off it (but make sure it is hard to plug
in a 110 thingie. Or you can take it off your dryer plug but you would
have to make coffee by the laundry. I wired up a 220V plug next to my
dryer
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
If you have an electric stove or oven in the kitchen you have 220V right
there, just run another outlet off it (but make sure it is hard to plug in a
110 thingie. Or you can take it off your dryer plug
: [MBZ] OT - Converting euro 220v appliance to 120v
If you have an electric stove or oven in the kitchen you have 220V right
there, just run another outlet off it (but make sure it is hard to plug in
a 110 thingie. Or you can take it off your dryer plug but you would have
to make coffee
New welder 110 or 220?
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD
Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
If you have an electric stove or oven in the kitchen you have 220V
right
there, just run another outlet off it (but make sure it is hard to plug
in a 110 thingie. Or
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From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Converting euro 220v appliance to 120v
If you have an electric stove or oven in the kitchen you have 220V
right
there, just
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Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Converting euro 220v appliance to 120v
That's what I did, plug is spec for 220, 20 or 30 amp. Cannot plug in a
110.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD
WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
'Should be a small
Not sure what the issue would be for running stove and outlet at the
same time -- that is what a circuit breaker is for.
Yes, my plug is (maybe, likely) anti-code but I needed power and took a
few minutes to get it. I'll keep the inspector out of the house (he
thought my work on the addition
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
Not sure what the issue would be for running stove and outlet at the same
time -- that is what a circuit breaker is for.
Your wife is more tolerant than mine, it sounds like. :)
Yes, my plug is (maybe,
It's darned hard to find high-quality vendors!
From my Dad - If you want it done right, do it yourself.
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 12:54 PM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote:
On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
Not sure what the issue would be
If I could find a suitable job I would be working to turn all I earn
over to contractors (after paying my taxes), with the added benefit of
having to worry about their work, supervise it, argue with them, put up
with their issues, etc etc. to get it done to my satisfaction (which has
a high
Well that is likely true, but if Mao needs his coffee without a lot of
drama...
--R
On 10/11/12 1:54 PM, Tim C wrote:
My recollection is that the stove is required to be on its own
circuit.
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Converting euro 220v appliance to 120v
If I could find a suitable job I would be working to turn all I earn over
to contractors (after paying my taxes), with the added benefit of having
to worry about their work, supervise it, argue with them, put up with
their issues
, October 11, 2012 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Converting euro 220v appliance to 120v
If I could find a suitable job I would be working to turn all I earn over
to contractors (after paying my taxes), with the added benefit of having
to worry about their work, supervise it, argue with them, put
Jim wrote:
Easiest thing is to get a different appliance. Second-easiest
get a step-up transformer.
The grinder is made 110v also, so universal motor strap may be in place?
I dunno what the thing sounds like - blender or other, but it is
coffee grinder so prolly loud? - I have never seen one,
If you have an electric stove or oven in the kitchen you have 220V
right there, just run another outlet off it
That is very much against code, and for a good reason.
The circuit breaker is probably 50A. If you developed
a short in your weenie little device the circuit (either
in your
On Thu, 11 Oct 2012 20:40:59 -0500 Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
wrote:
Jim wrote:
Easiest thing is to get a different appliance. Second-easiest
get a step-up transformer.
The grinder is made 110v also, so universal motor strap may be in place?
I dunno what the thing sounds like -
Yeah, but it's Chairman Mao we are talking about here, he always has one
foot in the grave (which he has dug in the back yard) anyway.
Besides, what is life if you aren't living on the ragged edge?
--R
On 10/11/12 10:23 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
If you have an electric stove or oven in the
If you have an electric stove or oven in the kitchen you have 220V
right there, just run another outlet off it
That is very much against code, and for a good reason.
The circuit breaker is probably 50A. If you developed
a short in your weenie little device the circuit (either
in your
I see an italian 2prong kitchen appliance (espresso grinder) that
seems nice - maybe 1/3hp.
Aside from a converter plug in device, can this device be wired
differently by me and fitted with US plug for use on 120v? Euro is
220v, 50hz while US is 120v, 60hz - doesn't sound drastically
different?
, 2012 8:18 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT - Converting euro 220v appliance to 120v
I see an italian 2prong kitchen appliance (espresso grinder) that
seems nice - maybe 1/3hp.
Aside from a converter plug in device, can this device be wired
differently by me and fitted with US plug for use on 120v? Euro
Aside from a converter plug in device, can this device be wired
differently by me and fitted with US plug for use on 120v? Euro is
220v, 50hz while US is 120v, 60hz - doesn't sound drastically
different?
Oh, it's VERY DRASTICALLY different! To smoke a 110V device
in a second hit it with 220V.
Jim wrote:
Unless, of course, the thingy itself was designed to
be strapped (internally) for 120V. Unlikely, I'd say.
Or try it on 120V and see how happy it is. It'll be
running at 1/4 power, though.
1/4 power and 1/4 speed? - might not be bad.
As to strapped for 120v, many are 120v but
Computers and many other electronic devices have power supplies that will
take 100-250V and make it right for the output.
Appliances are not the same.
US 110V = single phase, 3 wire 60Hz; between 2 hots you get 220V, between
either hot and neutral you get 110V.
Euro 220V = single phase, 2
Universal voltage appliances are Japanese -- one side of the island is
110V 60Hz US standard, the other (West) side is German -- 220V 50Hz.
This is why having those exploded nuclear power stations off line was
such a problem -- it requires an inverter plant to transfer power from
the west
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 21:20:08 -0500 Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
wrote:
Jim wrote:
Unless, of course, the thingy itself was designed to
be strapped (internally) for 120V. Unlikely, I'd say.
Or try it on 120V and see how happy it is. It'll be
running at 1/4 power, though.
1/4
Wire a receptacle 220 volt. You'll be feeding the motor 60 Hz, not 50, so it
will run a little fast, but I don't think that will matter too much in a
grinder.
We have several Italian appliances from living there, I wired one outlet on the
kitchen island for 220 so we can use them. Have a
, that makes you
hafta have a 220 receptacle at the kitchen counter/cabinet.
Wilton
- Original Message - From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:18 PM
Subject: [MBZ] OT - Converting euro 220v appliance
OK, what about this Jim? since you are magical and able to make due with
microwave tin and whatevery you have on hand.
Could you use a computer power supply to provide be the converter? They have
the little 60/50 switch on the back, so should be able to step up or down a few
hundred watts of
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