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2020-07-07 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
s-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of > Mitch Haley via Mercedes > Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2020 3:48 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More > > On Sun, July 5, 2020 3:19 pm, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote

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2020-07-05 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Thanks for the explanation. I'm still skeptical on real-world effectiveness. I wonder what kind of SEER or net cooling capacity these things deliver? Using room air to cool the hot coil should make the supply air nice and cool at the expense of sucking hot, humid outside air into the space.

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2020-07-05 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The ones I've seen pull in room air and cool some, exhausting some as hot air. AFAIK all the air is taken from the room. Of course efficiency will be lower since the air that is exhausted has to be made up from somewhere -Curt On Sunday, July 5, 2020, 10:19:22 AM EDT, Kaleb Striplin

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2020-07-05 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On Sun, July 5, 2020 3:19 pm, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: > I eagerly await Dan's experience but I am skeptical. I don't see how it > can suck in warm outside air and exhaust even-warmer air through the same > duct/hose (unless it's coaxial). The suck in is through the side of the housing,

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2020-07-05 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
GMT-06:00) To: > Mercedes Discussion List Cc: > mi...@mitchellhaley.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More I had > extremely low expectations when my parents bought one.Let's draw 95° air > into the house, heat it up to make cold air, blow thehot air (and condensate > from th

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2020-07-05 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
tyee165 via Mercedes writes: > The thing that surprised me is that it managed to blow the condensate > out and there was no pan to empty like on a dehumidifier. I had a small window unit that I used in a camper. It had no drain for condensate. The condensor fan would dip into the accumulated

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2020-07-05 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Yes insulate the garage door with foam sheet to reduce the heat load. And be sure to seal the air inlet/outlet tightly at the wall or garage door, and seal any gaps tight at the door edge. On Sun, Jul 5, 2020, 9:47 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > On Sun, July 5, 2020 10:19 am, Kaleb

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2020-07-05 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On Sun, July 5, 2020 10:19 am, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > This is what I thought about getting to blow on my in my immediate area > in the shop. If you can spend most of your time where you can feel the breeze, it should make you feel a lot cooler for a kiloWatt or less. And it's on

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2020-07-05 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On Sun, July 5, 2020 10:41 am, tyee165 via Mercedes wrote: > I think the single hose is actually a double hose with an inner and outer > combined. Some (more expensive) models have intake and exhaust, which I would assume would need some degree of separation, or you'd just be sucking the exhaust

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2020-07-05 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
no pan to empty like on a dehumidifier.Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > Original message From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes > Date: 2020-07-05 06:38 (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes > Discussion List Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com Subject: > Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More I had extr

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2020-07-05 Thread tyee165 via Mercedes
...@mitchellhaley.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More I had extremely low expectations when my parents bought one.Let's draw 95° air into the house, heat it up to make cold air, blow thehot air (and condensate from the cold air) out the tube, drawing more 95°moist air into the building

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2020-07-05 Thread tyee165 via Mercedes
If you don't have a window that opens then I suggest you cut a hole in the wall to install it.Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes Date: 2020-07-05 09:29 (GMT-06:00) To: Okie Benz Cc: Dan Penoff Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split

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2020-07-05 Thread tyee165 via Mercedes
) To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Kaleb Striplin Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More This is what I thought about getting to blow on my in my immediate area in the shop. Sent from my iPhone> On Jul 5, 2020, at 6:38 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:> > I had extremely low expectation

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2020-07-05 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I’m not sure how effective it would be given the volume fo your shop. Maybe if you cordoned off an area with a big curtain, like a welding curtain, or something like that it might work? I’m just trying to cool a roughly 20’ by 20’ garage. The one I got is rated for 400 SF, so theoretically, it

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2020-07-05 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
This is what I thought about getting to blow on my in my immediate area in the shop. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 5, 2020, at 6:38 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > I had extremely low expectations when my parents bought one. > Let's draw 95° air into the house, heat it up to make

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2020-07-05 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I had extremely low expectations when my parents bought one. Let's draw 95° air into the house, heat it up to make cold air, blow the hot air (and condensate from the cold air) out the tube, drawing more 95° moist air into the building...but surprisingly enough, it seems to work about as well as a

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2020-07-05 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
day, July 04, 2020 5:24 PM > To: Mercedes List > Cc: Dan Penoff > Subject: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split and More > > So my HVAC engineer neighbor was over the other night and I was asking him > about his opinion on a mini-split in the garage… > > His take? Buy a portable 12,000

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2020-07-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
We’ll see…. -D > On Jul 4, 2020, at 7:32 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: > > Sounds like great progress Dan. > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Sat, Jul 4, 2020, 5:25 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > So my HVAC engineer neighbor was over the other night and

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2020-07-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Regular 15A 120V plug. One 4” dryer vent thingy which I will run under the small garage door and block the rest off with some chipboard pieces I have. -D > On Jul 4, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Huh. Vent: does it need one or two? In other words, does it heat up

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2020-07-04 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Sounds like great progress Dan. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Sat, Jul 4, 2020, 5:25 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > So my HVAC engineer neighbor was over the other night and I was asking him > about his opinion on a mini-split in the garage… > > His take? Buy a portable 12,000 BTU unit

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2020-07-04 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Huh.  Vent: does it need one or two?  In other words, does it heat up and discharge interior air or exterior air?  The kind I worked with needed exterior air. Regular electrical socket, or does it need a 30 amp or 220 socket? Max Dillon Charleston SC Jul 4, 2020 5:25:05 PM Dan Penoff via

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2020-07-04 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Nice On 7/4/2020 4:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: So my HVAC engineer neighbor was over the other night and I was asking him about his opinion on a mini-split in the garage… His take? Buy a portable 12,000 BTU unit and use that, forget about a mini-split. I bought one at Lowe’s

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2020-07-04 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
So my HVAC engineer neighbor was over the other night and I was asking him about his opinion on a mini-split in the garage… His take? Buy a portable 12,000 BTU unit and use that, forget about a mini-split. I bought one at Lowe’s today. I’m going to try it out in the morning tomorrow. It