Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k
I thought most of the oil is in the brew. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:21 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So - how do you extract the oil from the used grounds? We throw away a LOT of grounds from the employee lounge coffee machine at work --- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k
andrew strasfogel wrote: I thought most of the oil is in the brew. I thought this discussion started with the revelation that spent grounds are 15% oil by weight. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k
I see. Maybe that's why they smell so rank... On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: I thought most of the oil is in the brew. I thought this discussion started with the revelation that spent grounds are 15% oil by weight. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k
http://tinyurl.com/6mb4ks This looks like a good idea. Maybe it would be another for the mix of fuel choices. Just need to get somebody to scale it up clay On Dec 2, 2008, at 7:39 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I thought most of the oil is in the brew. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:21 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So - how do you extract the oil from the used grounds? We throw away a LOT of grounds from the employee lounge coffee machine at work --- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k
Great article! Sounds like a winning scale-up candidate, although one wonders about the energy balance since methanol and KOH are required, and each consumes energy in the manufacturing process... On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/6mb4ks This looks like a good idea. Maybe it would be another for the mix of fuel choices. Just need to get somebody to scale it up clay On Dec 2, 2008, at 7:39 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: I thought most of the oil is in the brew. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:21 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So - how do you extract the oil from the used grounds? We throw away a LOT of grounds from the employee lounge coffee machine at work --- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k
All that, and in DC you will need to get 16 permits, pay off various govt inspectors and authorities, get taxed outrageously, and donate to reelection campaigns to keep the crooks in office. --R Max Dillon wrote: How about calling your business Global Warming-R-Us? You see, composting will release more CO2, which according to Al Gore (let's take a momement to say Thanks for the Internet Al!) causes Man-Made Global Warming, drowning polar bears and sinking Pacific islands and allowing Brits to grow decent wine grapes (what Horror!) On second thought, I don't think it will work. Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:57:44 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Biodiesel *processor* for under $3K from Northern Tool To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On a vague tangent, I am currently hauling home the coffee grounds from the shop at work and composting them with my own vegetable waste, yard clippings, and chopped leaves. I am straining to come up with a business model for ALL D.C. restaurants and coffee shops to turn their bio waste stream (veggie only) into compost. I am VERY open to suggestions..,, -- Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD, 310k miles Charleston SC Digest lurker (on and off) since 2001 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k
1. No 2. No 3. No - in fact, property taxes are below those in MD where we lived before. It is irksome to lack representation in Congress, however (this will soon change). 4. Yes, I do donate to various partisan causes but never to crooks. This activity has borne fruit (pending the results of the Senate race in MN). Incidentally, if you're aware of a better political sytem do let us know. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All that, and in DC you will need to get 16 permits, pay off various govt inspectors and authorities, get taxed outrageously, and donate to reelection campaigns to keep the crooks in office. --R Max Dillon wrote: How about calling your business Global Warming-R-Us? You see, composting will release more CO2, which according to Al Gore (let's take a momement to say Thanks for the Internet Al!) causes Man-Made Global Warming, drowning polar bears and sinking Pacific islands and allowing Brits to grow decent wine grapes (what Horror!) On second thought, I don't think it will work. Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:57:44 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Biodiesel *processor* for under $3K from Northern Tool To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On a vague tangent, I am currently hauling home the coffee grounds from the shop at work and composting them with my own vegetable waste, yard clippings, and chopped leaves. I am straining to come up with a business model for ALL D.C. restaurants and coffee shops to turn their bio waste stream (veggie only) into compost. I am VERY open to suggestions..,, -- Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD, 310k miles Charleston SC Digest lurker (on and off) since 2001 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k
I kinda like that mayor y'all had, the one that got busted with hookers smoking crack or snorting coke or whatever, who staged a big comeback after doing his penance. Marion Barry, that's the guy, a stellar mayor, very popular! Weren't there bribes mixed in there too? (Maybe that is Buddy Cianci I am thinking of, he didn't do crack though.). I think our political system is great just as it is -- the best crooks money can buy! Oh, and back to the matter at hand, our little community in Mass had some sort of composting program going on with leaves and grass and stuff. I went one day and picked up a big load to spread on the lawn. After the first rain all the good stuff washed away and what was left was plaster chunks, nails, and broken glass. Seems the local cawntractahs figured out they could get rid of demo debris by mixing it in with leaves and grass and putting it by the curb for the city to collect, or dumping it on the pile at the city yahd. I was out there with my shop vac vacuuming the lawn after it dried out. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: 1. No 2. No 3. No - in fact, property taxes are below those in MD where we lived before. It is irksome to lack representation in Congress, however (this will soon change). 4. Yes, I do donate to various partisan causes but never to crooks. This activity has borne fruit (pending the results of the Senate race in MN). Incidentally, if you're aware of a better political sytem do let us know. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All that, and in DC you will need to get 16 permits, pay off various govt inspectors and authorities, get taxed outrageously, and donate to reelection campaigns to keep the crooks in office. --R Max Dillon wrote: How about calling your business Global Warming-R-Us? You see, composting will release more CO2, which according to Al Gore (let's take a momement to say Thanks for the Internet Al!) causes Man-Made Global Warming, drowning polar bears and sinking Pacific islands and allowing Brits to grow decent wine grapes (what Horror!) On second thought, I don't think it will work. Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:57:44 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Biodiesel *processor* for under $3K from Northern Tool To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On a vague tangent, I am currently hauling home the coffee grounds from the shop at work and composting them with my own vegetable waste, yard clippings, and chopped leaves. I am straining to come up with a business model for ALL D.C. restaurants and coffee shops to turn their bio waste stream (veggie only) into compost. I am VERY open to suggestions..,, -- Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD, 310k miles Charleston SC Digest lurker (on and off) since 2001 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k
What happened to Kaleb's no politics rule? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:16 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k I kinda like that mayor y'all had, the one that got busted with hookers smoking crack or snorting coke or whatever, who staged a big comeback after doing his penance. Marion Barry, that's the guy, a stellar mayor, very popular! Weren't there bribes mixed in there too? (Maybe that is Buddy Cianci I am thinking of, he didn't do crack though.). I think our political system is great just as it is -- the best crooks money can buy! Oh, and back to the matter at hand, our little community in Mass had some sort of composting program going on with leaves and grass and stuff. I went one day and picked up a big load to spread on the lawn. After the first rain all the good stuff washed away and what was left was plaster chunks, nails, and broken glass. Seems the local cawntractahs figured out they could get rid of demo debris by mixing it in with leaves and grass and putting it by the curb for the city to collect, or dumping it on the pile at the city yahd. I was out there with my shop vac vacuuming the lawn after it dried out. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: 1. No 2. No 3. No - in fact, property taxes are below those in MD where we lived before. It is irksome to lack representation in Congress, however (this will soon change). 4. Yes, I do donate to various partisan causes but never to crooks. This activity has borne fruit (pending the results of the Senate race in MN). Incidentally, if you're aware of a better political sytem do let us know. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All that, and in DC you will need to get 16 permits, pay off various govt inspectors and authorities, get taxed outrageously, and donate to reelection campaigns to keep the crooks in office. --R Max Dillon wrote: How about calling your business Global Warming-R-Us? You see, composting will release more CO2, which according to Al Gore (let's take a momement to say Thanks for the Internet Al!) causes Man-Made Global Warming, drowning polar bears and sinking Pacific islands and allowing Brits to grow decent wine grapes (what Horror!) On second thought, I don't think it will work. Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:57:44 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Biodiesel *processor* for under $3K from Northern Tool To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On a vague tangent, I am currently hauling home the coffee grounds from the shop at work and composting them with my own vegetable waste, yard clippings, and chopped leaves. I am straining to come up with a business model for ALL D.C. restaurants and coffee shops to turn their bio waste stream (veggie only) into compost. I am VERY open to suggestions..,, -- Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD, 310k miles Charleston SC Digest lurker (on and off) since 2001 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 11/30/2008 5:53 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 11/30/2008 5:53 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http
Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k
Rich Thomas wrote: All that, and in DC you will need to get 16 permits, pay off various govt inspectors and authorities, get taxed outrageously, and donate to reelection campaigns to keep the crooks in office. Kind of like Mexico, eh? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k
andrew strasfogel wrote: 3. No - in fact, property taxes are below those in MD where we lived before. It is irksome to lack representation in Congress, however (this will soon change). You're moving, or the 'conspiracy theorists' are correct when they say that the socialists are planning to grant statehood for DC and Puerto Rico to help skew the voting pool? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I make no claims for Mass. politicians. Also, Mayor Barry is so very last millennium. The D.C. government has really cleaned up its act since he left office. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: All that, and in DC you will need to get 16 permits, pay off various govt inspectors and authorities, get taxed outrageously, and donate to reelection campaigns to keep the crooks in office. Kind of like Mexico, eh? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k
I have no idea what you're talking about. What has PR to do with this? On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: 3. No - in fact, property taxes are below those in MD where we lived before. It is irksome to lack representation in Congress, however (this will soon change). You're moving, or the 'conspiracy theorists' are correct when they say that the socialists are planning to grant statehood for DC and Puerto Rico to help skew the voting pool? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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You on banned lite yet? Rich Thomas wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I am still waiting for input regarding a good business model for creating a 100 percent safe and effective municipal composting program solely for the region's restaurants and coffee shops. How this veered off into a political discussion is beyond me. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You on banned lite yet? Rich Thomas wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Your thread was hijacked. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 9:38 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k I am still waiting for input regarding a good business model for creating a 100 percent safe and effective municipal composting program solely for the region's restaurants and coffee shops. How this veered off into a political discussion is beyond me. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You on banned lite yet? Rich Thomas wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 11/30/2008 5:53 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 11/30/2008 5:53 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I am still waiting for input regarding a good business model for creating a 100 percent safe and effective municipal composting program solely for the region's restaurants and coffee shops. You've gotten what you paid for. Seriously, if it were so easy that someone could formulate a business plan for recycling coffee grounds for profit, in response to an email posting on a Mercedes-Benz discussion list, well then I guess someone would already be doing it. The fact that nobody is already doing it means either: a) You've hit on a really unique idea. b) Others have already considered the concept and concluded there's no money to be made (note that does not necessarily mean it's a bad idea, you might have an approach that nobody else considered). Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It's a great model, you just have to find the right market. Small Caribbean countries that lack good topsoil and sewage infrastructure would be very appreciative of someone stepping up to organize an effort like this. Unfortunately, the US comes in about dead last in the world when it comes to implementing green ideas. -Dave Walton On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:37 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still waiting for input regarding a good business model for creating a 100 percent safe and effective municipal composting program solely for the region's restaurants and coffee shops. How this veered off into a political discussion is beyond me. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You on banned lite yet? Rich Thomas wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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andrew strasfogel wrote: I have no idea what you're talking about. What has PR to do with this? I was just reading a diatribe this weekend, in which a fellow claimed the Obaminoids were plotting to increase their power by granting statehood to the presumably socialist residents of DC and PR. The very next day you mentioned Congressional representation for DC, so I figured maybe you and the Obama hater knew something about The Messiah's plans that I didn't know. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k
because composting releases CO2, and according to Albore, the almighty expert on everything, releasing CO2 kills the planet. Someone on the list merely pointed out the hypocrisy. It is not political, other than albore belongs to a political party. At 09:37 AM 12/1/2008, you wrote: I am still waiting for input regarding a good business model for creating a 100 percent safe and effective municipal composting program solely for the region's restaurants and coffee shops. How this veered off into a political discussion is beyond me. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You on banned lite yet? Rich Thomas wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k
I think the two of you need a time out. Besides, my compost bins generate good CO2. ALS On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: because composting releases CO2, and according to Albore, the almighty expert on everything, releasing CO2 kills the planet. Someone on the list merely pointed out the hypocrisy. It is not political, other than albore belongs to a political party. At 09:37 AM 12/1/2008, you wrote: I am still waiting for input regarding a good business model for creating a 100 percent safe and effective municipal composting program solely for the region's restaurants and coffee shops. How this veered off into a political discussion is beyond me. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You on banned lite yet? Rich Thomas wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k
I'm jumping in late here, so not sure what's been talked about. We have green boxes here. Well, we have every known colour of box set out on the kirbside. lol. Green is for compost. Lot of ppl here with gardens, will still throw the easy compost stuff in their own composter. We have to mulch our grass too, no collecion of that. As for leaf collecion, that is all composted on a big scale, as is stuff from the collecion of green boxes, which will contain veg matter, and also paper with oil, such as pizza trays etc. As for you trying to get something going from restaurants, maybe try to sign up the easy places first, coffee shops, as you've done, and vegitarian places, so you don't have to worry so much about seperating out old meat products. Here, the city offers back for free (well, we pay for it with taxes, nothing the government offers is free!) all the stuff it composted, just bring your own bags. Landscapers not included. Not sure from a business perspective how it would work. Do you plan to sell the end product? Maybe give the restaurants a cut of the profit? Maybe like used cooking oil, not just take it for free, but pay them. Again, composting is done on a big scale here, so not sure how scaleable it is. Easy to do in your back garden, and easy when the city does it and forces everyone to play by rules, AND, they have the taxpayers dollars to cover the start up cost, which are substantial at first. Anyway, I love that American spirit of coming up with new ideas, and turning them into successful money making ventures. Best of luck, Ed 300E 2008/12/1 andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think the two of you need a time out. Besides, my compost bins generate good CO2. ALS On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: because composting releases CO2, and according to Albore, the almighty expert on everything, releasing CO2 kills the planet. Someone on the list merely pointed out the hypocrisy. It is not political, other than albore belongs to a political party. At 09:37 AM 12/1/2008, you wrote: I am still waiting for input regarding a good business model for creating a 100 percent safe and effective municipal composting program solely for the region's restaurants and coffee shops. How this veered off into a political discussion is beyond me. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You on banned lite yet? Rich Thomas wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k
By using the term business model I am not suggesting that a profit can be turned on the composting of garbage! BTW, where is this enlightened burg that you call home? Maybe I should move there! On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 5:01 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm jumping in late here, so not sure what's been talked about. We have green boxes here. Well, we have every known colour of box set out on the kirbside. lol. Green is for compost. Lot of ppl here with gardens, will still throw the easy compost stuff in their own composter. We have to mulch our grass too, no collecion of that. As for leaf collecion, that is all composted on a big scale, as is stuff from the collecion of green boxes, which will contain veg matter, and also paper with oil, such as pizza trays etc. As for you trying to get something going from restaurants, maybe try to sign up the easy places first, coffee shops, as you've done, and vegitarian places, so you don't have to worry so much about seperating out old meat products. Here, the city offers back for free (well, we pay for it with taxes, nothing the government offers is free!) all the stuff it composted, just bring your own bags. Landscapers not included. Not sure from a business perspective how it would work. Do you plan to sell the end product? Maybe give the restaurants a cut of the profit? Maybe like used cooking oil, not just take it for free, but pay them. Again, composting is done on a big scale here, so not sure how scaleable it is. Easy to do in your back garden, and easy when the city does it and forces everyone to play by rules, AND, they have the taxpayers dollars to cover the start up cost, which are substantial at first. Anyway, I love that American spirit of coming up with new ideas, and turning them into successful money making ventures. Best of luck, Ed 300E 2008/12/1 andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think the two of you need a time out. Besides, my compost bins generate good CO2. ALS On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: because composting releases CO2, and according to Albore, the almighty expert on everything, releasing CO2 kills the planet. Someone on the list merely pointed out the hypocrisy. It is not political, other than albore belongs to a political party. At 09:37 AM 12/1/2008, you wrote: I am still waiting for input regarding a good business model for creating a 100 percent safe and effective municipal composting program solely for the region's restaurants and coffee shops. How this veered off into a political discussion is beyond me. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You on banned lite yet? Rich Thomas wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k
I'm sure there's a way to make money out of pretty much anything. Our local Zoo would collect the droppings from the larger animals, elephants etc and sell it as Zoo Poo. lol. No kidding, the stuff was about $3.00 for a 5lb bag!! If you have access to coffee grinds from all your local Starbucks, maybe rather than just composting, you can turn it into an end product, and attach a price to it for your effort. Maybe a natural weekly drain maintainer. Leave a nice coffee smell too. lol I'm up in Toronto, where they arel trying to soon ban plastic coffee lids on paper coffee cups. Plastic shopping bags are on the hit list too and will probably soon be gone, or you'll have to pay for them. The local wine shop (it's all controlled via the gov) banned plastic bags about a year ago, so we're back to paper ones, and boxes. Probably won't have any trees left in a few years with the demand for paper now! lol Ed 300E 2008/12/1 andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] By using the term business model I am not suggesting that a profit can be turned on the composting of garbage! BTW, where is this enlightened burg that you call home? Maybe I should move there! On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 5:01 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm jumping in late here, so not sure what's been talked about. We have green boxes here. Well, we have every known colour of box set out on the kirbside. lol. Green is for compost. Lot of ppl here with gardens, will still throw the easy compost stuff in their own composter. We have to mulch our grass too, no collecion of that. As for leaf collecion, that is all composted on a big scale, as is stuff from the collecion of green boxes, which will contain veg matter, and also paper with oil, such as pizza trays etc. As for you trying to get something going from restaurants, maybe try to sign up the easy places first, coffee shops, as you've done, and vegitarian places, so you don't have to worry so much about seperating out old meat products. Here, the city offers back for free (well, we pay for it with taxes, nothing the government offers is free!) all the stuff it composted, just bring your own bags. Landscapers not included. Not sure from a business perspective how it would work. Do you plan to sell the end product? Maybe give the restaurants a cut of the profit? Maybe like used cooking oil, not just take it for free, but pay them. Again, composting is done on a big scale here, so not sure how scaleable it is. Easy to do in your back garden, and easy when the city does it and forces everyone to play by rules, AND, they have the taxpayers dollars to cover the start up cost, which are substantial at first. Anyway, I love that American spirit of coming up with new ideas, and turning them into successful money making ventures. Best of luck, Ed 300E 2008/12/1 andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think the two of you need a time out. Besides, my compost bins generate good CO2. ALS On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: because composting releases CO2, and according to Albore, the almighty expert on everything, releasing CO2 kills the planet. Someone on the list merely pointed out the hypocrisy. It is not political, other than albore belongs to a political party. At 09:37 AM 12/1/2008, you wrote: I am still waiting for input regarding a good business model for creating a 100 percent safe and effective municipal composting program solely for the region's restaurants and coffee shops. How this veered off into a political discussion is beyond me. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:27 AM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You on banned lite yet? Rich Thomas wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k
So - how do you extract the oil from the used grounds? We throw away a LOT of grounds from the employee lounge coffee machine at work --- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are merely games. - Ernest Hemingway '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ''97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k
How about calling your business Global Warming-R-Us? You see, composting will release more CO2, which according to Al Gore (let's take a momement to say Thanks for the Internet Al!) causes Man-Made Global Warming, drowning polar bears and sinking Pacific islands and allowing Brits to grow decent wine grapes (what Horror!) On second thought, I don't think it will work. Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:57:44 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Biodiesel *processor* for under $3K from Northern Tool To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On a vague tangent, I am currently hauling home the coffee grounds from the shop at work and composting them with my own vegetable waste, yard clippings, and chopped leaves. I am straining to come up with a business model for ALL D.C. restaurants and coffee shops to turn their bio waste stream (veggie only) into compost. I am VERY open to suggestions..,, -- Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD, 310k miles Charleston SC Digest lurker (on and off) since 2001 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k
Yep, composting releases the dreaded CO2 gas into the air. But so does breathing passing gas! So, I have a suggestion for this global warming mess - let's all of us not eat pinto beans, broccoli or other gassy food for one year. The CO2 emissions saved by not passing gas should have a huge impact on the total atmospheric CO2 concentration! We also need to install butt plugs on dairy cows... Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Max Dillon Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 9:47 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT business idea - was Biodiesel *processor* for under $3k How about calling your business Global Warming-R-Us? You see, composting will release more CO2, which according to Al Gore (let's take a momement to say Thanks for the Internet Al!) causes Man-Made Global Warming, drowning polar bears and sinking Pacific islands and allowing Brits to grow decent wine grapes (what Horror!) On second thought, I don't think it will work. Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:57:44 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Biodiesel *processor* for under $3K from Northern Tool To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On a vague tangent, I am currently hauling home the coffee grounds from the shop at work and composting them with my own vegetable waste, yard clippings, and chopped leaves. I am straining to come up with a business model for ALL D.C. restaurants and coffee shops to turn their bio waste stream (veggie only) into compost. I am VERY open to suggestions..,, -- Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD, 310k miles Charleston SC Digest lurker (on and off) since 2001 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1820 - Release Date: 11/29/2008 6:52 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1820 - Release Date: 11/29/2008 6:52 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
