Re: [MBZ] OT using UK appliance in US

The UK plugs are huge, ugly and awkward.   In the late 60s, the plugs I saw in England were all 2 prong.   I don't think the grounded outlet was added until the 70s in the UK.  Fred probably has better info.  In the late 60s, there was not much building going on in the UK.   It may have been

Re: [MBZ] OT using UK appliance in US

The UK has MUCH more rigid standards for plugs than we do. Their plug has been 3 prongs and the current standard looks to have been in use since 1947... -Curt On Monday, February 24, 2020, 10:04:56 AM EST, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 08:48:40 -0500 Allan Streib via

Re: [MBZ] OT using UK appliance in US

On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 08:48:40 -0500 Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: > fmiser via Mercedes writes: > > > If it is two prong power cord (no ground) then the neutral could > > be connected to the chassis. That would be bad. It would make > > the blender case 120 V above earth ground. > > Worth

Re: [MBZ] OT using UK appliance in US

fmiser via Mercedes writes: > If it is two prong power cord (no ground) then the neutral could > be connected to the chassis. That would be bad. It would make > the blender case 120 V above earth ground. Worth checking, but I'd be very surprised if a kitchen appliance were set up that way.

Re: [MBZ] OT using UK appliance in US

The original post also said 1500 watts.   I suspect the "3 hp" is a sears roebuck and co rating.   Way more then "optimistic"   More like fraudulent.  1hp = 33,000 ft lb/min. Curt Raymond via Mercedes February 23, 2020 at 3:42 PM 3hp = 2200+ watts. Too much for

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3hp = 2200+ watts. Too much for a 15a outlet... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 8:10 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote: I know nought of electrons and wire diagrams, but figure you would be able to jigger around the wires on the interior to fit the need.  What I

Re: [MBZ] OT using UK appliance in US

> Floyd wrote: > Well that is what I am wondering.  I could wire a 220V socket > off his dryer outlet but I am wondering if the US version of > 220V (hot-hot) would be compatible with the UK version of 220V > (hot-neutral). Yes. Or no. The motor won't care. It is within the rated voltage.

Re: [MBZ] OT using UK appliance in US

I know nought of electrons and wire diagrams, but figure you would be able to jigger around the wires on the interior to fit the need. What I do see that would deter using 110v is that you have a 3hp motor. Having worked in the pool business, that is a pretty stout motor which would have been

Re: [MBZ] OT using UK appliance in US

Maybe Floyd can check out the motor.   If it is a universal motor, then he is home free.   I was not willing to assume it was.   He should probably still check out the plug with an ohmmeter to see if both prongs are isolated from the case. If indeed it was made for +230 and common, they may

Re: [MBZ] OT using UK appliance in US

> The motor will not run as it should on 60 cycle power.. The common brush-style motor used in small appliances, the high-speed noisy ones, are also known as "universal" motors. They will run on DC, or AC of the 20Hz, 50Hz, 60Hz variety. They simply do not care. They might have a problem with

Re: [MBZ] OT using UK appliance in US

True, but floyd's original post said it was rated 220-240v 50-60 cycle.   so the isolation transformer should do the trick without breaking the bank. G Mann via Mercedes February 22, 2020 at 2:18 PM Major issue not being addressed in this thread.. USA 220v is 60

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Excellent, it's a non issue then. Should be able to change over to a USA type 220 plug and expect it to run. On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 1:46 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It says 50/60 is OK for the motor > > --FT > > On 2/22/20 3:18 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

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It says 50/60 is OK for the motor --FT On 2/22/20 3:18 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Major issue not being addressed in this thread.. USA 220v is 60 cycle EU 220v is 50 cycle.. Even is you match wiring to a USA plug, you still have the cycle problem. The motor will not run as it should on

Re: [MBZ] OT using UK appliance in US

Major issue not being addressed in this thread.. USA 220v is 60 cycle EU 220v is 50 cycle.. Even is you match wiring to a USA plug, you still have the cycle problem. The motor will not run as it should on 60 cycle power.. Someone, somewhere makes a "converter" that will step the 60 cycle USA to

Re: [MBZ] OT using UK appliance in US

ohmmeter is yor friend on appliance.  jim might be able to answer other part if you know the motor design. Floyd Thursby via Mercedes February 22, 2020 at 1:50 PM Well that is what I am wondering.  I could wire a 220V socket off his dryer outlet but I am

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Isolation transformer would be safest. ie 220Vac to 220Vac.and no current path between input and output. Your local electrical supply house is your friend. Fred. On Sat, Feb 22, 2020 at 2:51 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Well that is what I am wondering. I

Re: [MBZ] OT using UK appliance in US

Well that is what I am wondering.  I could wire a 220V socket off his dryer outlet but I am wondering if the US version of 220V (hot-hot) would be compatible with the UK version of 220V (hot-neutral).  I'm thinking electrically it is just voltage across the poles but I'm wondering if the

Re: [MBZ] OT using UK appliance in US

Depends. UK as most of Europe has been 220V/50Hz forever. If it’s a purpose/market built appliance, and it sounds like it is, he’s probably screwed unless he wants to set up a 220V receptacle for it. It’s unlikely it could be retired for a lower voltage. -D > On Feb 22, 2020, at 2:35 PM,

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The converter would be easiest I think. I think it would run fine on a US receptacle? I am sure that would not fry it, but maybe it would not be safe from a shock hazard perspective? Max Dillon Charleston SC Feb 22, 2020 2:35:24 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes : > A buddy of mine bought an

[MBZ] OT using UK appliance in US

A buddy of mine bought an Optimum blender from a guy in UK off ebay not thinking it will have the UK plug and their voltage (duh).  It is like a Vitamix but apparently better and more powerful, from an Aussie company but made in Taiwan.  AC220V-240V 50-60Hz rated 1500W, 3HP 2238W motor which