Re: [MBZ] Relocation talk again

2016-04-15 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > >Cc: Rich Thomas <richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 5:45 PM > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Relocation talk again > > > >But for ho

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2016-04-14 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Dr. Mann wrote: > The real issue with flying a helicopter is that it has nearly zero inherent > stability. Nice! - thanks for the doctoral thesis summary. Tell us about balloons and flight. My son has become one of only a handful of FAA balloon operations persons in the agency. ...yeah... big

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2016-04-13 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
But for how long tomorrow? --R On 4/13/16 4:59 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Pilot told me I could be flying the craft tomorrow. Until Curt runs out of cash ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

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2016-04-13 Thread clay via Mercedes
And you want our blessing? Get your butt to Dallas, dude clay On Apr 12, 2016, at 4:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > So the guy that was running Dallas got the east regional manager job and is > moving to Tampa. So his position is open and Dallas is the 2nd largest Market >

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2016-04-13 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
tivity.net> > Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 5:45 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Relocation talk again > >But for how long tomorrow? > >--R > >On 4/13/16 4:59 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >> Pilot told me I could be flying the craft tomorrow. > > >

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2016-04-13 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
The Osprey props/rotors are Allison turboprops which use cyclic pitch control that can change lift rapidly; either manually or by computer. It would seem that the same system could be used in a personal quadricopter driven by a light plane engine mechanically connected to the props. The main

Re: [MBZ] Relocation talk again

2016-04-13 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
The real issue with flying a helicopter is that it has nearly zero inherent stability. Rotor speed varies with load which varies with blade pitch angle, which varies as the blades make the circle from ascending angle of attack to descending angle of attack... [think direction of flight.. the

Re: [MBZ] Relocation talk again

2016-04-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
2016 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Relocation talk again But for how long tomorrow? --R On 4/13/16 4:59 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > Pilot told me I could be flying the craft tomorrow. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://w

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2016-04-13 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
But for how long tomorrow? --R On 4/13/16 4:59 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Pilot told me I could be flying the craft tomorrow. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

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2016-04-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
enz.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Relocation talk again I've been told that if you make the slightest false movement on a helicopter joystick, the aircraft will crash and burn in less than 5 seconds. In other words, complete 2000 hours of training before

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2016-04-13 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Multi-rotor copters (I don't know about Ospreys) require some fairly fast modulation of rotor lift to stay stable and maneuver, which apparently turbine or recip engines are not capable of doing. So they need electric motors that can be rapidly controlled. I looked into this, wondering why

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2016-04-13 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Per hours flown, which is the safest domestic helicopter? Engineers on another list argued about the use of full size quadracopters and similar planes as alternatives to conventional helicopters. They agreed that the failure of one prop would not mean the aircraft would necessarily crash; as

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2016-04-13 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 13/04/2016 10:47 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Gotta die sometime and I'd rather get it over with in a helo crash than dying slowly of cancer... -Curt Country song lyrics - everybody want to go to heaven but no body want to go right now RB

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2016-04-13 Thread Russ Williams via Mercedes
m> Cc: OK Don <okd...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Relocation talk again First, "still within easy driving distance" is not going to happen in the DFW area. Second, no Okie would willingly move to texas. Third, that 4-5 hour dri

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2016-04-13 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Kaleb, Get a small camper van, find a campground with showers. - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

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2016-04-13 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Way back when one summer I had an internship at NASA Langley. They did not tell me where I would be working, I just showed up the first day for orientation and we got our assignments. I got sent over to some offices in one of the hangars where the research aircraft lived, to a guy in the

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2016-04-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
11:22 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Relocation talk again On 13/04/2016 9:11 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > I took a helicopter ride of the Vegas strip last night. We found a Groupon so > for 3 of us it was only like $60 each for about a half hour ride. Now I want > a small chopper.W

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2016-04-13 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
nt: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 11:04 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Relocation talk again > > First, "still within easy driving distance" is not going to happen in the > DFW area. Second, no Okie would willingly move to texas. Third, that 4-5 > hour drive to/from the ranchito will ge

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2016-04-13 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 13/04/2016 9:11 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I took a helicopter ride of the Vegas strip last night. We found a Groupon so for 3 of us it was only like $60 each for about a half hour ride. Now I want a small chopper.We flew in a Robinson R44 II, looks like new they run half a

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2016-04-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
travel time to camp from 8.5 hours to probably 3... -Curt From: OK Don via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: OK Don <okd...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Relocation talk again

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2016-04-13 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Just like all the Massholes who moved to New Hampster, to Live Free and Die while raising taxes and imposing more laws and regulations. --R On 4/12/16 11:29 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 21:32:10 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: CT is a den

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2016-04-12 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I commuted 4 hr each way for about 5 yrs. I called where I stayed a line shack. You can stay in an old camper trailer, a shipping container or the back of a van or pickup of you want to save money. Universities have lots of PE/Rec buildings with (free) showers if you have digs without a

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2016-04-12 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 21:32:10 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: > CT is a den of thieves. The yawkas with money move there to escape > the liberal paradise of newyawk and then made ct into an ever worse > liberal paradise. Sort of like, "For you travel across sea

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2016-04-12 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
First, "still within easy driving distance" is not going to happen in the DFW area. Second, no Okie would willingly move to texas. Third, that 4-5 hour drive to/from the ranchito will get old fast. You'll need to budget for that PPL and an airplane - cuts the travel time down to 2½ hours. Just

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2016-04-12 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
So this is a good opportunity that also represents a bit of risk. You can minimize your risk by assuming a bit of unpleasantness in having to "commute" down there and crash in an apartment during the week while keeping your okie ranchito to visit on the weekends. It would be a burden on your

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2016-04-12 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Holy. I was just talking to a guy who is based in Connecticut, and he was saying that people are leaving in droves because of the outrageous cost of living there. He was saying that he's going to accept a lower paying position that will move him to the Carolinas just to get out. Good luck.

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2016-04-12 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
So if mallas is a stepping stone, how about getting a small apt or trailer house for short term (1-2 years) and keep el rancho costa plenny, and go there (OK) weekends or whenever you can accumulate 3-4 days in a row.Think of el Rancho costa plenny as your vacation home. Then if you take

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2016-04-12 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Kaleb wrote: > I have been in the Tulsa area all my life. Let me be DebbieDowner. Don't. Be happy. Stay in OkieLand. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

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2016-04-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I have never lived or worked in or around a major city such as Dallas. I have been in the Tulsa area all my life. My peers are managers in other markets who have no interest in moving to Tulsa. If I left one of my employees would probably promote maybe. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 12, 2016,

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2016-04-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Well that market down there is in good shape, has been ran well and has good employees so I don't think there will be any issues there. When I took over here I was new to this division and market was a mess. So I am used to that sort of thing. If this move happened it would be for more money

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2016-04-12 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Are your peers thinking of your welfare or their own; i.e. would one of them get your Oklahoma territory if you moved to Dallas? If you've never lived and worked in a major international city, my advice would be don't do it. Gerry > On 4/12/16 7:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > >

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2016-04-12 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
If you want to move up it goes with the territory. Managing people can be a royal PITA or really easy. It depends mostly on the environment and how they’re treated. Hopefully you know the people in Dallas and have an idea of what the environment is like. If they’re happy now your work is

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2016-04-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Btw this is the same job I have now except I would be going from managing 5 employees to managing 18 employees and 3 assistant managers. A lot more headache for sure. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 12, 2016, at 6:56 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes > wrote: > > How far is

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2016-04-12 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rich Thomas <richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Relocation talk again How far is Dallas from where you live now? Could you do a 4-day work week then commute back

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2016-04-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
We work from home so I don't have to commute to an office everyday just have to be able to drive to visit customers daily. What headlights? I don't know anything about any headlights. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 12, 2016, at 7:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: >

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2016-04-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
It's about 4 hours from Tulsa, closer to 5 hours from where I live now. If I did it I would have to probably go down during the week and stay in a hotel or something until school was out and/or house or houses was sold up here. Might have to get a cheap rental until sold up here. Selling this

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2016-04-12 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
;mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Relocation talk again Holy.  I was just talking to a guy who is based in Connecticut, and he was saying that people are leaving in droves because of the outrageous cost of

Re: [MBZ] Relocation talk again

2016-04-12 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: Rich Thomas <richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 7:56 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Relocation talk again > > How far is Dallas from where you live now? &

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2016-04-12 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Relocation talk again How far is Dallas from where you live now? Could you do a 4-day work week then commute back to Okieland?  Just rent a cheap apartment down there?  Wifey could either work there too or visit if she wants a big ci

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2016-04-12 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That’s about a 300 mile commute one way. Again, relocations are never a win, but if it’s a good career move you can recoup your losses over time. Just how long that takes is based on how much more you’ll make. Also, if it’s a good direction to go promotion-wise, you just have to factor that

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2016-04-12 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
How far is Dallas from where you live now? Could you do a 4-day work week then commute back to Okieland? Just rent a cheap apartment down there? Wifey could either work there too or visit if she wants a big city fix? --R On 4/12/16 7:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: So the

[MBZ] Relocation talk again

2016-04-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
So the guy that was running Dallas got the east regional manager job and is moving to Tampa. So his position is open and Dallas is the 2nd largest Market behind Houston in our company. It would be a good career move within the company to take that market as the last 3 people to run it have been