Realistically there isn't any way to protect anything that somebody can't get
through. A chainsaw cutting into a building will make a heck of a racket and
the neighbors walk their dog by the camp pretty much every day. They also live
close enough that they'd hear somebody running a saw at
But isn't your camp in an area where most folks have a chain saw? Maybe
already in the back of the pickup truck? Wouldn't take much to cut a
nice big hole through the OSB.
On 02/03/2022 3:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
Geez, you just made me think about the "new" garage at camp,
Geez, you just made me think about the "new" garage at camp, it's got
corrugated metal on the outside but I *think* the metal covers OSB so just
peeling back the tin would not be sufficient.
-Curt
On Wednesday, March 2, 2022, 02:21:53 PM EST, OK Don via Mercedes
wrote:
My neighbor
My neighbor poured a four inch concrete curb like mound along the base of
the wall so they can't get to the bottom screws. The corrugated nature of
the panels makes it hard to fold down. Now that the horse is out, he thinks
he's protected.
On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 1:53 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes
No alarm system?
On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 4:29 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Years ago, my brother in law, (before he married my sister) had his home
> broken into while he was away for a vacation. The burglars broke into
> the house and loaded stuff into his car
Years ago, my brother in law, (before he married my sister) had his home
broken into while he was away for a vacation. The burglars broke into
the house and loaded stuff into his car which was in the attached garage
and stole the car too. They keys were hanging in the house so it made it
Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 11:20 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Allan Streib
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shop door
The main entry doors on all my homes has always opened inwards. Not sure if a
different code would apply to a non-residential building like a shop or garage?
On Tue, Mar 1
But this is still a good idea, however.
-D
> On Mar 1, 2022, at 1:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> One thing I do with the cars parked inside I don’t leave the keys in them. I
> usually have them sitting somewhere not easily seen. That way somebody can’t
> just break in and
I would be more concerned about tools and equipment. Burglars are far less
likely to be breaking in to steal a car. Tools are far easier to fence.
-D
> On Mar 1, 2022, at 1:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> One thing I do with the cars parked inside I don’t leave the keys in
It does not, thankfully.
-D
> On Mar 1, 2022, at 1:33 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Does your garage have windows?
>
>
>
>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022, at 3:25 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> I have similar concerns for the service door on my garage at the
>> Flagstaff
Does your garage have windows?
On Tue, Mar 1, 2022, at 3:25 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> I have similar concerns for the service door on my garage at the
> Flagstaff house. It’s a wooden frame service door, which, with minimal
> effort but a lot of noise, could be breached.
>
>
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Cc: Kaleb Striplin
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shop door
One thing I do with the cars parked inside I don’t leave the keys in them. I
usually have them sitting somewhere not easily seen. That way somebody can’t
just break in and drive a bunch of cars out, hopefully.
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I have similar concerns for the service door on my garage at the Flagstaff
house. It’s a wooden frame service door, which, with minimal effort but a lot
of noise, could be breached.
This summer I plan on installing a steel frame/door. Not cheap, but if properly
installed is far more secure and
One thing I do with the cars parked inside I don’t leave the keys in them. I
usually have them sitting somewhere not easily seen. That way somebody can’t
just break in and drive a bunch of cars out, hopefully.
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> On Mar 1, 2022, at 1:50 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes
>
Must be a way to fix that too.
On 01/03/2022 1:50 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
That’s what I’ve often thought about when I used to have an indoor storage
unit. A rechargeable drill, 1/4” socket driver, and about 3-5 minutes and I
could be in any one of the units with minimal
I like this.
-D
> On Mar 1, 2022, at 11:40 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> So we're talking about a man door where the hinge pins are on the outside?
>
> Remove one screw from each hinge, insert a pin the same diameter as the screw
> which protrudes from the hinge the depth of
That’s what I’ve often thought about when I used to have an indoor storage
unit. A rechargeable drill, 1/4” socket driver, and about 3-5 minutes and I
could be in any one of the units with minimal effort.
-D
> On Mar 1, 2022, at 11:19 AM, OK Don via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> A neighbor of ours
$1,000 deductible?
I would think it a good idea to try to avoid having to replace a lot of
tools.
Maybe build a locked storage unit inside the garage as well and store
the tools in it.
Cameras would be a good idea as well and a monitored alarm. People may
break in but if the alarm goes off,
Most fire codes I have encountered across the decades require one "man
door" to open outward per so many building square feet or distance from the
most remote place in the floor plan. [wording varies across jurisdictions,
but the intent remains the same, have a way to escape in case of fire].
At some point the ROI goes negative when reinforcing a structure to stop a
determined intruder. Do what is reasonable to deter impulsive opportunists,
then let insurance handle any losses.
On Tue, Mar 1, 2022, at 2:38 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
> How solid is your door? We have had
How solid is your door? We have had our offices broken into a couple of
times and the thieves just break the door. I assume they use a sledge
hammer and just bang the door hard enough near the lock to break a chunk
out of the door. Solid doors but basically plywood on either side with
particle
Seems like you could do this anywhere on the hinge side of the door, would not
need to remove a hinge screw?
On Tue, Mar 1, 2022, at 1:52 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> That reminds me they do sell hinges that do that. They have studs that
> stick out and you have to drill holes in
That reminds me they do sell hinges that do that. They have studs that stick
out and you have to drill holes in the frame and when the door is closed the
studs stick into the holes.
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> On Mar 1, 2022, at 12:40 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> So we're talking
I think if somebody wants in bad enough they will get in
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> On Mar 1, 2022, at 12:19 PM, OK Don via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> A neighbor of ours had all his tools and the three bladed prop for his
> Cessna 210 stolen one night by thieves that removed the screws from a panel
>
So we're talking about a man door where the hinge pins are on the outside?
Remove one screw from each hinge, insert a pin the same diameter as the screw
which protrudes from the hinge the depth of the other hinge. When the door is
closed the pins engage both hinges so the door cannot be removed
Doesn'
t work too well when you live 15 miles away from the hangar, and don't go
there every day. He was un-insured to boot.
On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 12:33 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> That’s why you have dogs and weapons
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
> > On
That’s why you have dogs and weapons
--FT
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> On Mar 1, 2022, at 1:29 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> A neighbor of ours had all his tools and the three bladed prop for his
>> Cessna 210 stolen one night by thieves that removed the screws from a panel
>> of the
> A neighbor of ours had all his tools and the three bladed prop for his
> Cessna 210 stolen one night by thieves that removed the screws from a panel
> of the sheet metal on his hangar. Instant door.
That's why professional mechanics have those spendy big toolchests.
They lock, fairly securely,
A neighbor of ours had all his tools and the three bladed prop for his
Cessna 210 stolen one night by thieves that removed the screws from a panel
of the sheet metal on his hangar. Instant door.
On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 8:29 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Big knife,
Ouch.
On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 12:29 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> But really, how could anyone find anything in your shop to be able to
> steal?
>
> AZBob
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 1, 2022, at 10:24 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>
But really, how could anyone find anything in your shop to be able to steal?
AZBob
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> On Mar 1, 2022, at 10:24 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Well, I wasn't that old when it occurred. Maybe 6 or 7.
>
>> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 12:20 PM Allan Streib
Well, I wasn't that old when it occurred. Maybe 6 or 7.
On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 12:20 PM Allan Streib wrote:
> That fire was in 1911. How old are you??
>
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
> I grew up with memories of the infamous Triangle Fire that trapped
>
Didn't realize you were talking about the pedestrian door. Use, steel,
and put the bar on the outside. Set it up so that it can be locked in
the open position so that you cannot be locked inside the garage.
On 01/03/2022 10:57 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
How do I get out of the
That fire was in 1911. How old are you??
On Tue, Mar 1, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> I grew up with memories of the infamous Triangle Fire that trapped hundreds
> of women behind exit doors that opened inward. Yet, our entry door opens in
> rather than out.
>
> On Tue, Mar 1,
How do I get out of the shop once the bar is in place?
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> On Mar 1, 2022, at 10:44 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Install a big bar across on the inside that slides into pockets of some sort
> on both sides of the door. Removing the hinges would not permit it
Install a big bar across on the inside that slides into pockets of some
sort on both sides of the door. Removing the hinges would not permit it
to open.
I would like one of the hinged doors like they have on aircraft hangars.
Opens out and up so is out of the way.
Randy
On 28/02/2022 9:32
> I grew up with memories of the infamous Triangle Fire that trapped hundreds
> of women behind exit doors that opened inward. Yet, our entry door opens in
> rather than out.
In rather than out is safer, in general, because you can't block somebody in
just by putting something big in front of the
Could be. Perhaps I will just leave it. Would like to do something about the
exposed hinges though.
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> On Mar 1, 2022, at 10:16 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Isn’t it fire code it has to open outward? Although there are probably no
> fire codes in Okieland.
I grew up with memories of the infamous Triangle Fire that trapped hundreds
of women behind exit doors that opened inward. Yet, our entry door opens in
rather than out.
On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 11:21 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> The main entry doors on all my
The main entry doors on all my homes has always opened inwards. Not sure if a
different code would apply to a non-residential building like a shop or garage?
On Tue, Mar 1, 2022, at 11:15 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> Isn’t it fire code it has to open outward? Although there are
Isn’t it fire code it has to open outward? Although there are probably no fire
codes in Okieland.
AZBob
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> On Mar 1, 2022, at 7:41 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>
> Roll up door with a hand operated chain drive to roll it up, instead of
> electric. Then if the
Roll up door with a hand operated chain drive to roll it up, instead of
electric. Then if the electric goes out you can operate the door. The roll
up door takes up the least space since you don't have the overhead rails
like garage doors with spring assist, ect.
No hinges to deal with, and the
Big knife, machete. Peel your way in like a can opener, would take mere
seconds.
Wouldn't want the door to swing inwards, very inconvenient regards occupying
valuable space. It's probably best the way it is. Are there big-boy versions
of
those hidden cabinet hinges?
-- Jim
That’s true I suppose.
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> On Feb 28, 2022, at 10:19 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> If the shop is a metal building someone can just walk up to it with a cutter
> and make their own door wherever they want.
>
>
>> On Mon, Feb 28, 2022, at 10:32 PM, Kaleb
If the shop is a metal building someone can just walk up to it with a cutter
and make their own door wherever they want.
On Mon, Feb 28, 2022, at 10:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> One thing that has always bothered me about my shop is the door. It
> opens outward with the hinges
You could take out the frame and flip the whole thing around
--FT
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> On Feb 28, 2022, at 10:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> One thing that has always bothered me about my shop is the door. It opens
> outward with the hinges outside. It does have set screws
One thing that has always bothered me about my shop is the door. It
opens outward with the hinges outside. It does have set screws that can
only be accessed with the door open so the hinge pins can't be easily
popped out. That would not stop somebody from with enough time and
nobody around
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