Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back

2015-03-20 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
could be.  Around PNW we are very strict e-cyclers.  You can drop 
off all manner of monitor, CPU, printer and other things that plug 
in.  I suspect it gets crated up and sent to the orient for salvage


clay



more likely, they stand a container on end, doors open, and dump the 
junk in with an elevator.  More stuff shipped per container this way, 
and no crating charges.


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Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back

2015-03-20 Thread clay via Mercedes
could be.  Around PNW we are very strict e-cyclers.  You can drop off all 
manner of monitor, CPU, printer and other things that plug in.  I suspect it 
gets crated up and sent to the orient for salvage

clay


On Mar 19, 2015, at 6:20 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:

 There is some guy around here who begs on freecycle for e-waste all the time, 
 I'm sure he has some backyard smelter thing going on.
 
 --R
 
 
 
 On 3/19/15 1:02 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
 Salvage the gold ---
 
 On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:34 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
  Sadly, there would be no value to the garbage inside the cases.
 
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Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back

2015-03-20 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I saw a vid posted on some tech site yesterday of all that crap in a big 
hopper going into a shredder, every bit of plastic, metal, and whatever 
else is in there.  They pointed out most of it was printers, which are 
cheaper to replace than buy ink carts.  It probably does get shipped to 
Africa or China or somewhere for recovery of whatever is useful.  Having 
seen how they do that -- big outdoor piles of burning smoldering smoking 
stuff -- it is rather horrifying.


--R



On 3/20/15 7:07 PM, clay wrote:

could be.  Around PNW we are very strict e-cyclers.  You can drop off all 
manner of monitor, CPU, printer and other things that plug in.  I suspect it 
gets crated up and sent to the orient for salvage

clay


On Mar 19, 2015, at 6:20 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:


There is some guy around here who begs on freecycle for e-waste all the time, 
I'm sure he has some backyard smelter thing going on.

--R



On 3/19/15 1:02 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Salvage the gold ---

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:34 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:


  Sadly, there would be no value to the garbage inside the cases.

clay




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Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back

2015-03-20 Thread clay via Mercedes
I meant it as pallets.  Some of the stuff is broken down, then wrapped on the 
pallet.  CRTs get that treatment when removed from cases, printers go whole, 
logic and cards dump in giant cardboard box on a pallet.  Small junk is tossed 
in big box with wires.  ABS and metal are sent to local scrap yards.  


On Mar 20, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

 could be.  Around PNW we are very strict e-cyclers.  You can drop off all 
 manner of monitor, CPU, printer and other things that plug in.  I suspect it 
 gets crated up and sent to the orient for salvage
 
 clay
 
 
 more likely, they stand a container on end, doors open, and dump the junk in 
 with an elevator.  More stuff shipped per container this way, and no crating 
 charges.
 
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Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back

2015-03-20 Thread clay via Mercedes
I thought it was all dolled up based on Gump having manual trans, no fogs, no 
PS, no auto lock, no AC, no cruise, wind up glass, manual antenna, solid roof, 
steel wheels, one mirror, mono radio, color match vent

clay


On Mar 19, 2015, at 7:22 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

 Yea that's pretty much all standard
 
 My 115 has none of that, except the fog lights which are
 part of the headlight assembly anyway.
 
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Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back

2015-03-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Yea that's pretty much all standard

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 19, 2015, at 12:01 AM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 Sounds like a standard W115 300D to me, mine had all that and it wasn't
 special, well except for your special seats.
 
 On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 9:40 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 AC, cruise, power window, sun roof, power steering, bundts, power lock,
 Grundig stereo radio/speakers, power antenna, dual side mirrors, fog
 lights.  I think it may have been upholstered in the foreskins of elephants
 based on the mold on the seats.  Oh, those were the SE seats.
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back

2015-03-19 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
There is some guy around here who begs on freecycle for e-waste all the 
time, I'm sure he has some backyard smelter thing going on.


--R



On 3/19/15 1:02 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Salvage the gold ---

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:34 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:


  Sadly, there would be no value to the garbage inside the cases.

clay







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Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back

2015-03-19 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

Yea that's pretty much all standard


My 115 has none of that, except the fog lights which are
part of the headlight assembly anyway.

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Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back

2015-03-19 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
My 76 has all but the bundts and the radio and antenna. No idea what 
radio was in to begin with. It had a bad aftermarket one when I got it 
and now it has a hole where that used to be.
I have a couple of decent aftermarket ones I could install but have yet 
to do so.


RB

On 19/03/2015 12:01 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Sounds like a standard W115 300D to me, mine had all that and it wasn't
special, well except for your special seats.

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 9:40 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:


AC, cruise, power window, sun roof, power steering, bundts, power lock,
Grundig stereo radio/speakers, power antenna, dual side mirrors, fog
lights.  I think it may have been upholstered in the foreskins of elephants
based on the mold on the seats.  Oh, those were the SE seats.







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Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back

2015-03-19 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 19/03/2015 9:22 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

Yea that's pretty much all standard


My 115 has none of that, except the fog lights which are
part of the headlight assembly anyway.

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Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back

2015-03-18 Thread clay via Mercedes
AC, cruise, power window, sun roof, power steering, bundts, power lock, Grundig 
stereo radio/speakers, power antenna, dual side mirrors, fog lights.  I think 
it may have been upholstered in the foreskins of elephants based on the mold on 
the seats.  Oh, those were the SE seats.




---
clay

 I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm 
 looking for didn't fall out.





On Mar 17, 2015, at 8:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

 What sort of bells and whistles?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 17, 2015, at 7:43 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 The more I get to know her, the sadder I feel.  This was one of the loaded 
 variety.  All the bells and whistles, but in 40 years the leaks and soaking 
 against sheet metal have rusted out the corners of the cabin floor.  There 
 is extensive application of fiberglass muck, but I am still seeing road and 
 daylight in area.  Since it will be a beater, I guess a garbage HF welder 
 will serve for me to figure out welding.   I am now on the lookout for the 
 old time micro-nukers so I can Cathey the rust areas.  Can't be using cash 
 to fix, has to be as low budget as can be found, or I disqualify for LeMons
 
 clay
 
 On Mar 16, 2015, at 4:30 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 
 Props for saving an MB from the crusher!
 
 It does sound like a great Lemons car...
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Mar 16, 2015, at 6:09 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 May I not be forced to live in a cardboard box, but I am now half owner of 
 a 1975 300D.  SWMBA is out of state, so will not find out of this new toy 
 for a few months
 
 I think this is another of the K'leb tauntings that I ended up getting.  
 Like Gump, somebody on list made mention that I should look at this thing. 
  I put that thought on ignore until last month.  IIRC, the car listed for 
 around $1k.  Over time the value decreased and when I looked three weeks 
 ago, CL had it at $650.  PO listed it as no start but had been driven all 
 summer until no start condition arose.  I went to see what I found, and 
 had arranged with #1 boy that if it were decent, we would go in on it 
 together.  Something to get him out of the basement and learning how to 
 shade tree his own rides later on.
 
 I went to see it on a cloudy/misty day and learned the PO had a penchant 
 for older cars.  He is driving a '92 w190, but had an old SD at one point, 
 and got this car (300D) on a lark, thinking he would restore it somehow.  
 Owner before him has sort of boogered the car up by installing seats out 
 of an SE (w126) and they did not want to stay bolted down.  Windows had 
 stopped working and were half down, so in our climate mold had set up 
 shop.  The driver side doors had also developed a latching issue and would 
 not remain shut.  There was obvious external rust on the rear quarter 
 panel, but the fronts seemed solid.  Somebody had tried to renovate the 
 car a number of years ago with generic carpet and padding on the floor, 
 put bundts all around, installed the wrong battery, had aftermarket 
 speakers front and back, messed up alligator texture original silver paint.
 
 The no start was due to shakes went starts that had worn the cable to 
 the starter until it snapped.  No electrons to the starter.  I saw that 
 and while hooked to my W220 battery (jump attempt) had him glow the thing 
 and try a start while I held the cable to the place on the starter it 
 wanted to be.  I used heavy rubber gloves, but would not have complained 
 if I was taken out by my own stupidity.  The thing did attempt to turn 
 over.  So, that indicated that the engine was not seized and that the 
 starter wanted to work.  Seemed like it might work for a messing around 
 car.  
 
 I returned home and shared my data with #1 boy.  He was noncommittal, 
 which is fine.  I made interested noises to the seller, but told him I had 
 a few other things to consider, so he should feel free to offer it to 
 somebody with cash.  His price was not in line with the value, and I was 
 not going to waste cash or time getting the car in much better shape.  
 From what I had seen, this would be a great 24 Hours of LeMons car.  Strip 
 it down and salvage what I could to fund the project.
 
 Seller contacted me last week and said all the other tire kickers were far 
 from interested.  If I wanted, he would sell for $400 or just take the 
 $300 for scrap value, since he really needed it gone.  This time #1 boy 
 was a bit more interested, and we made plans to drag the thing home.  I 
 had hoped to put some fresh fuel in, and connect the starter cable, or 
 build myself one.  As back up, I made up a 0 gauge cable and faked up a 
 bumper guard for the pusher in case I could get it bump started.  And off 
 he went in the pouring rain.
 
 We arrived in good time and rousted the seller.  Poked around the car 
 trying to get wires secured and the doors strapped shut.  Hooked the 
 jumper 

Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back

2015-03-18 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
When we graduated college on of friends hauled home a microVAX. Used it as a 
coffee table for years. Wish I had it now, it'd patch a lot of holes.

Curt

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Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back

2015-03-18 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

I only used the microwave because I had it.  Old computer
(server) cases are _much_ superior!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back

2015-03-18 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Sounds like a standard W115 300D to me, mine had all that and it wasn't
special, well except for your special seats.

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 9:40 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 AC, cruise, power window, sun roof, power steering, bundts, power lock,
 Grundig stereo radio/speakers, power antenna, dual side mirrors, fog
 lights.  I think it may have been upholstered in the foreskins of elephants
 based on the mold on the seats.  Oh, those were the SE seats.




-- 
OK Don

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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back

2015-03-18 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Salvage the gold ---

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:34 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

  Sadly, there would be no value to the garbage inside the cases.

 clay




-- 
OK Don

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our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves.

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2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back

2015-03-18 Thread clay via Mercedes
AH, I could just bid on a pallet of old office computers at the local sheriff 
auction.  That would stay off the radar as a car part.  Sadly, there would be 
no value to the garbage inside the cases.

clay

On Mar 18, 2015, at 7:02 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

 When we graduated college on of friends hauled home a microVAX. Used it as a 
 coffee table for years. Wish I had it now, it'd patch a lot of holes.
 
 Curt
 
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Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back

2015-03-18 Thread clay via Mercedes
The rust in the trunk area will be bondo, as will the holes where I pulled the 
trim.  Weight reduction, along the lines of deleting AC and Cruise hardware.  
The cabin floor, I think is a bit more load bearing, as I am sure to find out 
when I start the rust busting.

I got all the seats out, the foam carpet pad and generic black auto carpeting.  
Wet foam is really heavy.  Seats from a W126 must weigh close to 80# each.  I 
will have to suck up the water in the cabin and go to town with the grinder to 
find out just how little floor I have left.  The front fender did not rot out, 
the floor did.

clay



On Mar 18, 2015, at 12:45 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

 I found that double or triple sheets of aluminum roofing valley (comes in 
 rolls at bldg. supply or hardware store), bedded with whichever gooey stuff 
 is on hand, and fastened down with pop rivets; lasts indefinitely. It's 
 probably not a good fix for load bearing parts, however. 
 Gerry
 
 clay wrote:
 The more I get to know her, the sadder I feel.  This was one of the loaded 
 variety.  All the bells and whistles, but in 40 years the leaks and soaking 
 against sheet metal have rusted out the corners of the cabin floor.  There 
 is extensive application of fiberglass muck, but I am still seeing road and 
 daylight in area.  Since it will be a beater, I guess a garbage HF welder 
 will serve for me to figure out welding.   I am now on the lookout for the 
 old time micro-nukers so I can Cathey the rust areas.  Can't be using cash 
 to fix, has to be as low budget as can be found, or I disqualify for LeMons
 
 clay
 
 On Mar 16, 2015, at 4:30 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 
 Props for saving an MB from the crusher!
 
 It does sound like a great Lemons car...
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Mar 16, 2015, at 6:09 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 May I not be forced to live in a cardboard box, but I am now half owner 
 of a 1975 300D.  SWMBA is out of state, so will not find out of this new 
 toy for a few months
 
 I think this is another of the K'leb tauntings that I ended up getting.  
 Like Gump, somebody on list made mention that I should look at this 
 thing.  I put that thought on ignore until last month.  IIRC, the car 
 listed for around $1k.  Over time the value decreased and when I looked 
 three weeks ago, CL had it at $650.  PO listed it as no start but had 
 been driven all summer until no start condition arose.  I went to see 
 what I found, and had arranged with #1 boy that if it were decent, we 
 would go in on it together.  Something to get him out of the basement and 
 learning how to shade tree his own rides later on.
 
 I went to see it on a cloudy/misty day and learned the PO had a penchant 
 for older cars.  He is driving a '92 w190, but had an old SD at one 
 point, and got this car (300D) on a lark, thinking he would restore it 
 somehow.  Owner before him has sort of boogered the car up by installing 
 seats out of an SE (w126) and they did not want to stay bolted down.  
 Windows had stopped working and were half down, so in our climate mold 
 had set up shop.  The driver side doors had also developed a latching 
 issue and would not remain shut.  There was obvious external rust on the 
 rear quarter panel, but the fronts seemed solid.  Somebody had tried to 
 renovate the car a number of years ago with generic carpet and padding on 
 the floor, put bundts all around, installed the wrong battery, had 
 aftermarket speakers front and back, messed up alligator texture original 
 silver paint.
 
 The no start was due to shakes went starts that had worn the cable to 
 the starter until it snapped.  No electrons to the starter.  I saw that 
 and while hooked to my W220 battery (jump attempt) had him glow the thing 
 and try a start while I held the cable to the place on the starter it 
 wanted to be.  I used heavy rubber gloves, but would not have complained 
 if I was taken out by my own stupidity.  The thing did attempt to turn 
 over.  So, that indicated that the engine was not seized and that the 
 starter wanted to work.  Seemed like it might work for a messing around 
 car.  
 
 I returned home and shared my data with #1 boy.  He was noncommittal, 
 which is fine.  I made interested noises to the seller, but told him I 
 had a few other things to consider, so he should feel free to offer it to 
 somebody with cash.  His price was not in line with the value, and I was 
 not going to waste cash or time getting the car in much better shape.  
 From what I had seen, this would be a great 24 Hours of LeMons car.  
 Strip it down and salvage what I could to fund the project.
 
 Seller contacted me last week and said all the other tire kickers were 
 far from interested.  If I wanted, he would sell for $400 or just take 
 the $300 for scrap value, since he really needed it gone.  This time #1 
 boy was a bit more interested, and we made plans to drag the thing home.  
 I had hoped to put some fresh fuel in, 

Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back

2015-03-18 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
I found that double or triple sheets of aluminum roofing valley (comes in rolls 
at bldg. supply or hardware store), bedded with whichever gooey stuff is on 
hand, and fastened down with pop rivets; lasts indefinitely. It's probably not 
a good fix for load bearing parts, however. 
Gerry

clay wrote:
  The more I get to know her, the sadder I feel.  This was one of the loaded 
  variety.  All the bells and whistles, but in 40 years the leaks and soaking 
  against sheet metal have rusted out the corners of the cabin floor.  There 
  is extensive application of fiberglass muck, but I am still seeing road and 
  daylight in area.  Since it will be a beater, I guess a garbage HF welder 
  will serve for me to figure out welding.   I am now on the lookout for the 
  old time micro-nukers so I can Cathey the rust areas.  Can't be using cash 
  to fix, has to be as low budget as can be found, or I disqualify for LeMons
  
  clay
  
  On Mar 16, 2015, at 4:30 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
  
  Props for saving an MB from the crusher!
  
  It does sound like a great Lemons car...
  
  Dan
  
  
  On Mar 16, 2015, at 6:09 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
  wrote:
  
  May I not be forced to live in a cardboard box, but I am now half owner 
  of a 1975 300D.  SWMBA is out of state, so will not find out of this new 
  toy for a few months
  
  I think this is another of the K'leb tauntings that I ended up getting.  
  Like Gump, somebody on list made mention that I should look at this 
  thing.  I put that thought on ignore until last month.  IIRC, the car 
  listed for around $1k.  Over time the value decreased and when I looked 
  three weeks ago, CL had it at $650.  PO listed it as no start but had 
  been driven all summer until no start condition arose.  I went to see 
  what I found, and had arranged with #1 boy that if it were decent, we 
  would go in on it together.  Something to get him out of the basement and 
  learning how to shade tree his own rides later on.
  
  I went to see it on a cloudy/misty day and learned the PO had a penchant 
  for older cars.  He is driving a '92 w190, but had an old SD at one 
  point, and got this car (300D) on a lark, thinking he would restore it 
  somehow.  Owner before him has sort of boogered the car up by installing 
  seats out of an SE (w126) and they did not want to stay bolted down.  
  Windows had stopped working and were half down, so in our climate mold 
  had set up shop.  The driver side doors had also developed a latching 
  issue and would not remain shut.  There was obvious external rust on the 
  rear quarter panel, but the fronts seemed solid.  Somebody had tried to 
  renovate the car a number of years ago with generic carpet and padding on 
  the floor, put bundts all around, installed the wrong battery, had 
  aftermarket speakers front and back, messed up alligator texture original 
  silver paint.
  
  The no start was due to shakes went starts that had worn the cable to 
  the starter until it snapped.  No electrons to the starter.  I saw that 
  and while hooked to my W220 battery (jump attempt) had him glow the thing 
  and try a start while I held the cable to the place on the starter it 
  wanted to be.  I used heavy rubber gloves, but would not have complained 
  if I was taken out by my own stupidity.  The thing did attempt to turn 
  over.  So, that indicated that the engine was not seized and that the 
  starter wanted to work.  Seemed like it might work for a messing around 
  car.  
  
  I returned home and shared my data with #1 boy.  He was noncommittal, 
  which is fine.  I made interested noises to the seller, but told him I 
  had a few other things to consider, so he should feel free to offer it to 
  somebody with cash.  His price was not in line with the value, and I was 
  not going to waste cash or time getting the car in much better shape.  
  From what I had seen, this would be a great 24 Hours of LeMons car.  
  Strip it down and salvage what I could to fund the project.
  
  Seller contacted me last week and said all the other tire kickers were 
  far from interested.  If I wanted, he would sell for $400 or just take 
  the $300 for scrap value, since he really needed it gone.  This time #1 
  boy was a bit more interested, and we made plans to drag the thing home.  
  I had hoped to put some fresh fuel in, and connect the starter cable, or 
  build myself one.  As back up, I made up a 0 gauge cable and faked up a 
  bumper guard for the pusher in case I could get it bump started.  And off 
  he went in the pouring rain.
  
  We arrived in good time and rousted the seller.  Poked around the car 
  trying to get wires secured and the doors strapped shut.  Hooked the 
  jumper cables to the battery and let some juice flow so that I could give 
  it a start.  A quarter hour later, there were no electrons being saved in 
  the battery and there was not enough juice to get the starter to engage, 
  but there 

Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back

2015-03-17 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

Awesome work

--R



On 3/16/15 6:09 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:

May I not be forced to live in a cardboard box, but I am now half owner of a 
1975 300D.  SWMBA is out of state, so will not find out of this new toy for a 
few months



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Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back

2015-03-17 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I know Jim likes old microwaves, I've been using old computer cases, the metal 
is a little thicker and its real dense so its easy to weld. They usually come 
with a coating so the metal doesn't rust away real fast, it takes paint fine 
and the coating doesn't catch fire when you weld. My first case is pretty much 
done but I've got another one in the basement ready to get cut up. They're 
super easy to get too if I need another.
-Curt

  From: clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 8:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back
   
The more I get to know her, the sadder I feel.  This was one of the loaded 
variety.  All the bells and whistles, but in 40 years the leaks and soaking 
against sheet metal have rusted out the corners of the cabin floor.  There is 
extensive application of fiberglass muck, but I am still seeing road and 
daylight in area.  Since it will be a beater, I guess a garbage HF welder will 
serve for me to figure out welding.  I am now on the lookout for the old time 
micro-nukers so I can Cathey the rust areas.  Can't be using cash to fix, has 
to be as low budget as can be found, or I disqualify for LeMons

clay



On Mar 16, 2015, at 4:30 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

 Props for saving an MB from the crusher!
 
 It does sound like a great Lemons car...
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Mar 16, 2015, at 6:09 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 May I not be forced to live in a cardboard box, but I am now half owner of a 
 1975 300D.  SWMBA is out of state, so will not find out of this new toy for 
 a few months
 
 I think this is another of the K'leb tauntings that I ended up getting.  
 Like Gump, somebody on list made mention that I should look at this thing.  
 I put that thought on ignore until last month.  IIRC, the car listed for 
 around $1k.  Over time the value decreased and when I looked three weeks 
 ago, CL had it at $650.  PO listed it as no start but had been driven all 
 summer until no start condition arose.  I went to see what I found, and had 
 arranged with #1 boy that if it were decent, we would go in on it together.  
 Something to get him out of the basement and learning how to shade tree his 
 own rides later on.
 
 I went to see it on a cloudy/misty day and learned the PO had a penchant for 
 older cars.  He is driving a '92 w190, but had an old SD at one point, and 
 got this car (300D) on a lark, thinking he would restore it somehow.  Owner 
 before him has sort of boogered the car up by installing seats out of an SE 
 (w126) and they did not want to stay bolted down.  Windows had stopped 
 working and were half down, so in our climate mold had set up shop.  The 
 driver side doors had also developed a latching issue and would not remain 
 shut.  There was obvious external rust on the rear quarter panel, but the 
 fronts seemed solid.  Somebody had tried to renovate the car a number of 
 years ago with generic carpet and padding on the floor, put bundts all 
 around, installed the wrong battery, had aftermarket speakers front and 
 back, messed up alligator texture original silver paint.
 
 The no start was due to shakes went starts that had worn the cable to the 
 starter until it snapped.  No electrons to the starter.  I saw that and 
 while hooked to my W220 battery (jump attempt) had him glow the thing and 
 try a start while I held the cable to the place on the starter it wanted to 
 be.  I used heavy rubber gloves, but would not have complained if I was 
 taken out by my own stupidity.  The thing did attempt to turn over.  So, 
 that indicated that the engine was not seized and that the starter wanted to 
 work.  Seemed like it might work for a messing around car.  
 
 I returned home and shared my data with #1 boy.  He was noncommittal, which 
 is fine.  I made interested noises to the seller, but told him I had a few 
 other things to consider, so he should feel free to offer it to somebody 
 with cash.  His price was not in line with the value, and I was not going to 
 waste cash or time getting the car in much better shape.  From what I had 
 seen, this would be a great 24 Hours of LeMons car.  Strip it down and 
 salvage what I could to fund the project.
 
 Seller contacted me last week and said all the other tire kickers were far 
 from interested.  If I wanted, he would sell for $400 or just take the $300 
 for scrap value, since he really needed it gone.  This time #1 boy was a bit 
 more interested, and we made plans to drag the thing home.  I had hoped to 
 put some fresh fuel in, and connect the starter cable, or build myself one.  
 As back up, I made up a 0 gauge cable and faked up a bumper guard for the 
 pusher in case I could get it bump started.  And off he went in the pouring 
 rain.
 
 We arrived in good time and rousted the seller.  Poked around the car trying 
 to get wires secured and the doors strapped

Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back

2015-03-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
What sort of bells and whistles?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 17, 2015, at 7:43 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 The more I get to know her, the sadder I feel.  This was one of the loaded 
 variety.  All the bells and whistles, but in 40 years the leaks and soaking 
 against sheet metal have rusted out the corners of the cabin floor.  There is 
 extensive application of fiberglass muck, but I am still seeing road and 
 daylight in area.  Since it will be a beater, I guess a garbage HF welder 
 will serve for me to figure out welding.   I am now on the lookout for the 
 old time micro-nukers so I can Cathey the rust areas.  Can't be using cash to 
 fix, has to be as low budget as can be found, or I disqualify for LeMons
 
 clay
 
 On Mar 16, 2015, at 4:30 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 
 Props for saving an MB from the crusher!
 
 It does sound like a great Lemons car...
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Mar 16, 2015, at 6:09 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 May I not be forced to live in a cardboard box, but I am now half owner of 
 a 1975 300D.  SWMBA is out of state, so will not find out of this new toy 
 for a few months
 
 I think this is another of the K'leb tauntings that I ended up getting.  
 Like Gump, somebody on list made mention that I should look at this thing.  
 I put that thought on ignore until last month.  IIRC, the car listed for 
 around $1k.  Over time the value decreased and when I looked three weeks 
 ago, CL had it at $650.  PO listed it as no start but had been driven all 
 summer until no start condition arose.  I went to see what I found, and had 
 arranged with #1 boy that if it were decent, we would go in on it together. 
  Something to get him out of the basement and learning how to shade tree 
 his own rides later on.
 
 I went to see it on a cloudy/misty day and learned the PO had a penchant 
 for older cars.  He is driving a '92 w190, but had an old SD at one point, 
 and got this car (300D) on a lark, thinking he would restore it somehow.  
 Owner before him has sort of boogered the car up by installing seats out of 
 an SE (w126) and they did not want to stay bolted down.  Windows had 
 stopped working and were half down, so in our climate mold had set up shop. 
  The driver side doors had also developed a latching issue and would not 
 remain shut.  There was obvious external rust on the rear quarter panel, 
 but the fronts seemed solid.  Somebody had tried to renovate the car a 
 number of years ago with generic carpet and padding on the floor, put 
 bundts all around, installed the wrong battery, had aftermarket speakers 
 front and back, messed up alligator texture original silver paint.
 
 The no start was due to shakes went starts that had worn the cable to the 
 starter until it snapped.  No electrons to the starter.  I saw that and 
 while hooked to my W220 battery (jump attempt) had him glow the thing and 
 try a start while I held the cable to the place on the starter it wanted to 
 be.  I used heavy rubber gloves, but would not have complained if I was 
 taken out by my own stupidity.  The thing did attempt to turn over.  So, 
 that indicated that the engine was not seized and that the starter wanted 
 to work.  Seemed like it might work for a messing around car.  
 
 I returned home and shared my data with #1 boy.  He was noncommittal, which 
 is fine.  I made interested noises to the seller, but told him I had a few 
 other things to consider, so he should feel free to offer it to somebody 
 with cash.  His price was not in line with the value, and I was not going 
 to waste cash or time getting the car in much better shape.  From what I 
 had seen, this would be a great 24 Hours of LeMons car.  Strip it down and 
 salvage what I could to fund the project.
 
 Seller contacted me last week and said all the other tire kickers were far 
 from interested.  If I wanted, he would sell for $400 or just take the $300 
 for scrap value, since he really needed it gone.  This time #1 boy was a 
 bit more interested, and we made plans to drag the thing home.  I had hoped 
 to put some fresh fuel in, and connect the starter cable, or build myself 
 one.  As back up, I made up a 0 gauge cable and faked up a bumper guard for 
 the pusher in case I could get it bump started.  And off he went in the 
 pouring rain.
 
 We arrived in good time and rousted the seller.  Poked around the car 
 trying to get wires secured and the doors strapped shut.  Hooked the jumper 
 cables to the battery and let some juice flow so that I could give it a 
 start.  A quarter hour later, there were no electrons being saved in the 
 battery and there was not enough juice to get the starter to engage, but 
 there was enough for glow.  I should mention that the ignition was hacked, 
 and you needed to push on a mystery button under the steering column, sort 
 of like the gorilla knob on Gump to get the plugs glowing.  That is as good 
 as any car alarm for me.  We 

Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back

2015-03-17 Thread clay via Mercedes
The more I get to know her, the sadder I feel.  This was one of the loaded 
variety.  All the bells and whistles, but in 40 years the leaks and soaking 
against sheet metal have rusted out the corners of the cabin floor.  There is 
extensive application of fiberglass muck, but I am still seeing road and 
daylight in area.  Since it will be a beater, I guess a garbage HF welder will 
serve for me to figure out welding.   I am now on the lookout for the old time 
micro-nukers so I can Cathey the rust areas.  Can't be using cash to fix, has 
to be as low budget as can be found, or I disqualify for LeMons

clay

On Mar 16, 2015, at 4:30 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

 Props for saving an MB from the crusher!
 
 It does sound like a great Lemons car...
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Mar 16, 2015, at 6:09 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 May I not be forced to live in a cardboard box, but I am now half owner of a 
 1975 300D.  SWMBA is out of state, so will not find out of this new toy for 
 a few months
 
 I think this is another of the K'leb tauntings that I ended up getting.  
 Like Gump, somebody on list made mention that I should look at this thing.  
 I put that thought on ignore until last month.  IIRC, the car listed for 
 around $1k.  Over time the value decreased and when I looked three weeks 
 ago, CL had it at $650.  PO listed it as no start but had been driven all 
 summer until no start condition arose.  I went to see what I found, and had 
 arranged with #1 boy that if it were decent, we would go in on it together.  
 Something to get him out of the basement and learning how to shade tree his 
 own rides later on.
 
 I went to see it on a cloudy/misty day and learned the PO had a penchant for 
 older cars.  He is driving a '92 w190, but had an old SD at one point, and 
 got this car (300D) on a lark, thinking he would restore it somehow.  Owner 
 before him has sort of boogered the car up by installing seats out of an SE 
 (w126) and they did not want to stay bolted down.  Windows had stopped 
 working and were half down, so in our climate mold had set up shop.  The 
 driver side doors had also developed a latching issue and would not remain 
 shut.  There was obvious external rust on the rear quarter panel, but the 
 fronts seemed solid.  Somebody had tried to renovate the car a number of 
 years ago with generic carpet and padding on the floor, put bundts all 
 around, installed the wrong battery, had aftermarket speakers front and 
 back, messed up alligator texture original silver paint.
 
 The no start was due to shakes went starts that had worn the cable to the 
 starter until it snapped.  No electrons to the starter.  I saw that and 
 while hooked to my W220 battery (jump attempt) had him glow the thing and 
 try a start while I held the cable to the place on the starter it wanted to 
 be.  I used heavy rubber gloves, but would not have complained if I was 
 taken out by my own stupidity.  The thing did attempt to turn over.  So, 
 that indicated that the engine was not seized and that the starter wanted to 
 work.  Seemed like it might work for a messing around car.  
 
 I returned home and shared my data with #1 boy.  He was noncommittal, which 
 is fine.  I made interested noises to the seller, but told him I had a few 
 other things to consider, so he should feel free to offer it to somebody 
 with cash.  His price was not in line with the value, and I was not going to 
 waste cash or time getting the car in much better shape.  From what I had 
 seen, this would be a great 24 Hours of LeMons car.  Strip it down and 
 salvage what I could to fund the project.
 
 Seller contacted me last week and said all the other tire kickers were far 
 from interested.  If I wanted, he would sell for $400 or just take the $300 
 for scrap value, since he really needed it gone.  This time #1 boy was a bit 
 more interested, and we made plans to drag the thing home.  I had hoped to 
 put some fresh fuel in, and connect the starter cable, or build myself one.  
 As back up, I made up a 0 gauge cable and faked up a bumper guard for the 
 pusher in case I could get it bump started.  And off he went in the pouring 
 rain.
 
 We arrived in good time and rousted the seller.  Poked around the car trying 
 to get wires secured and the doors strapped shut.  Hooked the jumper cables 
 to the battery and let some juice flow so that I could give it a start.  A 
 quarter hour later, there were no electrons being saved in the battery and 
 there was not enough juice to get the starter to engage, but there was 
 enough for glow.  I should mention that the ignition was hacked, and you 
 needed to push on a mystery button under the steering column, sort of like 
 the gorilla knob on Gump to get the plugs glowing.  That is as good as any 
 car alarm for me.  We closed the deal and I had #1 boy give the car a push 
 for an attempt at bump start.  At least we got out of the sellers 
 neighborhood before I figured 

Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back

2015-03-17 Thread clay via Mercedes
I could use a transmission

clay

On Mar 16, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

 Too bad you are not close. I could use the motor
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 16, 2015, at 5:09 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 May I not be forced to live in a cardboard box, but I am now half owner of a 
 1975 300D.  SWMBA is out of state, so will not find out of this new toy for 
 a few months
 
 I think this is another of the K'leb tauntings that I ended up getting.  
 Like Gump, somebody on list made mention that I should look at this thing.  
 I put that thought on ignore until last month.  IIRC, the car listed for 
 around $1k.  Over time the value decreased and when I looked three weeks 
 ago, CL had it at $650.  PO listed it as no start but had been driven all 
 summer until no start condition arose.  I went to see what I found, and had 
 arranged with #1 boy that if it were decent, we would go in on it together.  
 Something to get him out of the basement and learning how to shade tree his 
 own rides later on.
 
 I went to see it on a cloudy/misty day and learned the PO had a penchant for 
 older cars.  He is driving a '92 w190, but had an old SD at one point, and 
 got this car (300D) on a lark, thinking he would restore it somehow.  Owner 
 before him has sort of boogered the car up by installing seats out of an SE 
 (w126) and they did not want to stay bolted down.  Windows had stopped 
 working and were half down, so in our climate mold had set up shop.  The 
 driver side doors had also developed a latching issue and would not remain 
 shut.  There was obvious external rust on the rear quarter panel, but the 
 fronts seemed solid.  Somebody had tried to renovate the car a number of 
 years ago with generic carpet and padding on the floor, put bundts all 
 around, installed the wrong battery, had aftermarket speakers front and 
 back, messed up alligator texture original silver paint.
 
 The no start was due to shakes went starts that had worn the cable to the 
 starter until it snapped.  No electrons to the starter.  I saw that and 
 while hooked to my W220 battery (jump attempt) had him glow the thing and 
 try a start while I held the cable to the place on the starter it wanted to 
 be.  I used heavy rubber gloves, but would not have complained if I was 
 taken out by my own stupidity.  The thing did attempt to turn over.  So, 
 that indicated that the engine was not seized and that the starter wanted to 
 work.  Seemed like it might work for a messing around car.  
 
 I returned home and shared my data with #1 boy.  He was noncommittal, which 
 is fine.  I made interested noises to the seller, but told him I had a few 
 other things to consider, so he should feel free to offer it to somebody 
 with cash.  His price was not in line with the value, and I was not going to 
 waste cash or time getting the car in much better shape.  From what I had 
 seen, this would be a great 24 Hours of LeMons car.  Strip it down and 
 salvage what I could to fund the project.
 
 Seller contacted me last week and said all the other tire kickers were far 
 from interested.  If I wanted, he would sell for $400 or just take the $300 
 for scrap value, since he really needed it gone.  This time #1 boy was a bit 
 more interested, and we made plans to drag the thing home.  I had hoped to 
 put some fresh fuel in, and connect the starter cable, or build myself one.  
 As back up, I made up a 0 gauge cable and faked up a bumper guard for the 
 pusher in case I could get it bump started.  And off he went in the pouring 
 rain.
 
 We arrived in good time and rousted the seller.  Poked around the car trying 
 to get wires secured and the doors strapped shut.  Hooked the jumper cables 
 to the battery and let some juice flow so that I could give it a start.  A 
 quarter hour later, there were no electrons being saved in the battery and 
 there was not enough juice to get the starter to engage, but there was 
 enough for glow.  I should mention that the ignition was hacked, and you 
 needed to push on a mystery button under the steering column, sort of like 
 the gorilla knob on Gump to get the plugs glowing.  That is as good as any 
 car alarm for me.  We closed the deal and I had #1 boy give the car a push 
 for an attempt at bump start.  At least we got out of the sellers 
 neighborhood before I figured out there was not enough electron flow for the 
 ignition to kick in and light off the engine.  We made it to a commercial 
 center and I called AAA for a ride home.
 
 I sat in the lot waiting for the truck for about an hour and a half.  Rain 
 pouring down, windows open, driver seat unbolted and reclined back on the 
 rear bench seat, and the mobile phone battery crapping out.  The section of 
 town is not a prosperous one.  A very multicultural area where the cop 
 cars are of the SUV/armored looking sort, not the dainty Crown Vic.  Many 
 sirens and pairs of patrol cars responding to 

Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back

2015-03-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Props for saving an MB from the crusher!

It does sound like a great Lemons car...

Dan


 On Mar 16, 2015, at 6:09 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 May I not be forced to live in a cardboard box, but I am now half owner of a 
 1975 300D.  SWMBA is out of state, so will not find out of this new toy for a 
 few months
 
 I think this is another of the K'leb tauntings that I ended up getting.  Like 
 Gump, somebody on list made mention that I should look at this thing.  I put 
 that thought on ignore until last month.  IIRC, the car listed for around 
 $1k.  Over time the value decreased and when I looked three weeks ago, CL had 
 it at $650.  PO listed it as no start but had been driven all summer until no 
 start condition arose.  I went to see what I found, and had arranged with #1 
 boy that if it were decent, we would go in on it together.  Something to get 
 him out of the basement and learning how to shade tree his own rides later on.
 
 I went to see it on a cloudy/misty day and learned the PO had a penchant for 
 older cars.  He is driving a '92 w190, but had an old SD at one point, and 
 got this car (300D) on a lark, thinking he would restore it somehow.  Owner 
 before him has sort of boogered the car up by installing seats out of an SE 
 (w126) and they did not want to stay bolted down.  Windows had stopped 
 working and were half down, so in our climate mold had set up shop.  The 
 driver side doors had also developed a latching issue and would not remain 
 shut.  There was obvious external rust on the rear quarter panel, but the 
 fronts seemed solid.  Somebody had tried to renovate the car a number of 
 years ago with generic carpet and padding on the floor, put bundts all 
 around, installed the wrong battery, had aftermarket speakers front and back, 
 messed up alligator texture original silver paint.
 
 The no start was due to shakes went starts that had worn the cable to the 
 starter until it snapped.  No electrons to the starter.  I saw that and while 
 hooked to my W220 battery (jump attempt) had him glow the thing and try a 
 start while I held the cable to the place on the starter it wanted to be.  I 
 used heavy rubber gloves, but would not have complained if I was taken out by 
 my own stupidity.  The thing did attempt to turn over.  So, that indicated 
 that the engine was not seized and that the starter wanted to work.  Seemed 
 like it might work for a messing around car.  
 
 I returned home and shared my data with #1 boy.  He was noncommittal, which 
 is fine.  I made interested noises to the seller, but told him I had a few 
 other things to consider, so he should feel free to offer it to somebody with 
 cash.  His price was not in line with the value, and I was not going to waste 
 cash or time getting the car in much better shape.  From what I had seen, 
 this would be a great 24 Hours of LeMons car.  Strip it down and salvage what 
 I could to fund the project.
 
 Seller contacted me last week and said all the other tire kickers were far 
 from interested.  If I wanted, he would sell for $400 or just take the $300 
 for scrap value, since he really needed it gone.  This time #1 boy was a bit 
 more interested, and we made plans to drag the thing home.  I had hoped to 
 put some fresh fuel in, and connect the starter cable, or build myself one.  
 As back up, I made up a 0 gauge cable and faked up a bumper guard for the 
 pusher in case I could get it bump started.  And off he went in the pouring 
 rain.
 
 We arrived in good time and rousted the seller.  Poked around the car trying 
 to get wires secured and the doors strapped shut.  Hooked the jumper cables 
 to the battery and let some juice flow so that I could give it a start.  A 
 quarter hour later, there were no electrons being saved in the battery and 
 there was not enough juice to get the starter to engage, but there was enough 
 for glow.  I should mention that the ignition was hacked, and you needed to 
 push on a mystery button under the steering column, sort of like the gorilla 
 knob on Gump to get the plugs glowing.  That is as good as any car alarm for 
 me.  We closed the deal and I had #1 boy give the car a push for an attempt 
 at bump start.  At least we got out of the sellers neighborhood before I 
 figured out there was not enough electron flow for the ignition to kick in 
 and light off the engine.  We made it to a commercial center and I called AAA 
 for a ride home.
 
 I sat in the lot waiting for the truck for about an hour and a half.  Rain 
 pouring down, windows open, driver seat unbolted and reclined back on the 
 rear bench seat, and the mobile phone battery crapping out.  The section of 
 town is not a prosperous one.  A very multicultural area where the cop cars 
 are of the SUV/armored looking sort, not the dainty Crown Vic.  Many sirens 
 and pairs of patrol cars responding to all manner of nefarious activities.  I 
 am waiting for a brother or vato to walk up and 

Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back

2015-03-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Too bad you are not close. I could use the motor

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 16, 2015, at 5:09 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 May I not be forced to live in a cardboard box, but I am now half owner of a 
 1975 300D.  SWMBA is out of state, so will not find out of this new toy for a 
 few months
 
 I think this is another of the K'leb tauntings that I ended up getting.  Like 
 Gump, somebody on list made mention that I should look at this thing.  I put 
 that thought on ignore until last month.  IIRC, the car listed for around 
 $1k.  Over time the value decreased and when I looked three weeks ago, CL had 
 it at $650.  PO listed it as no start but had been driven all summer until no 
 start condition arose.  I went to see what I found, and had arranged with #1 
 boy that if it were decent, we would go in on it together.  Something to get 
 him out of the basement and learning how to shade tree his own rides later on.
 
 I went to see it on a cloudy/misty day and learned the PO had a penchant for 
 older cars.  He is driving a '92 w190, but had an old SD at one point, and 
 got this car (300D) on a lark, thinking he would restore it somehow.  Owner 
 before him has sort of boogered the car up by installing seats out of an SE 
 (w126) and they did not want to stay bolted down.  Windows had stopped 
 working and were half down, so in our climate mold had set up shop.  The 
 driver side doors had also developed a latching issue and would not remain 
 shut.  There was obvious external rust on the rear quarter panel, but the 
 fronts seemed solid.  Somebody had tried to renovate the car a number of 
 years ago with generic carpet and padding on the floor, put bundts all 
 around, installed the wrong battery, had aftermarket speakers front and back, 
 messed up alligator texture original silver paint.
 
 The no start was due to shakes went starts that had worn the cable to the 
 starter until it snapped.  No electrons to the starter.  I saw that and while 
 hooked to my W220 battery (jump attempt) had him glow the thing and try a 
 start while I held the cable to the place on the starter it wanted to be.  I 
 used heavy rubber gloves, but would not have complained if I was taken out by 
 my own stupidity.  The thing did attempt to turn over.  So, that indicated 
 that the engine was not seized and that the starter wanted to work.  Seemed 
 like it might work for a messing around car.  
 
 I returned home and shared my data with #1 boy.  He was noncommittal, which 
 is fine.  I made interested noises to the seller, but told him I had a few 
 other things to consider, so he should feel free to offer it to somebody with 
 cash.  His price was not in line with the value, and I was not going to waste 
 cash or time getting the car in much better shape.  From what I had seen, 
 this would be a great 24 Hours of LeMons car.  Strip it down and salvage what 
 I could to fund the project.
 
 Seller contacted me last week and said all the other tire kickers were far 
 from interested.  If I wanted, he would sell for $400 or just take the $300 
 for scrap value, since he really needed it gone.  This time #1 boy was a bit 
 more interested, and we made plans to drag the thing home.  I had hoped to 
 put some fresh fuel in, and connect the starter cable, or build myself one.  
 As back up, I made up a 0 gauge cable and faked up a bumper guard for the 
 pusher in case I could get it bump started.  And off he went in the pouring 
 rain.
 
 We arrived in good time and rousted the seller.  Poked around the car trying 
 to get wires secured and the doors strapped shut.  Hooked the jumper cables 
 to the battery and let some juice flow so that I could give it a start.  A 
 quarter hour later, there were no electrons being saved in the battery and 
 there was not enough juice to get the starter to engage, but there was enough 
 for glow.  I should mention that the ignition was hacked, and you needed to 
 push on a mystery button under the steering column, sort of like the gorilla 
 knob on Gump to get the plugs glowing.  That is as good as any car alarm for 
 me.  We closed the deal and I had #1 boy give the car a push for an attempt 
 at bump start.  At least we got out of the sellers neighborhood before I 
 figured out there was not enough electron flow for the ignition to kick in 
 and light off the engine.  We made it to a commercial center and I called AAA 
 for a ride home.
 
 I sat in the lot waiting for the truck for about an hour and a half.  Rain 
 pouring down, windows open, driver seat unbolted and reclined back on the 
 rear bench seat, and the mobile phone battery crapping out.  The section of 
 town is not a prosperous one.  A very multicultural area where the cop cars 
 are of the SUV/armored looking sort, not the dainty Crown Vic.  Many sirens 
 and pairs of patrol cars responding to all manner of nefarious activities.  I 
 am waiting for a brother or vato to walk up and knife me while I 

[MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back

2015-03-16 Thread clay via Mercedes
May I not be forced to live in a cardboard box, but I am now half owner of a 
1975 300D.  SWMBA is out of state, so will not find out of this new toy for a 
few months

I think this is another of the K'leb tauntings that I ended up getting.  Like 
Gump, somebody on list made mention that I should look at this thing.  I put 
that thought on ignore until last month.  IIRC, the car listed for around $1k.  
Over time the value decreased and when I looked three weeks ago, CL had it at 
$650.  PO listed it as no start but had been driven all summer until no start 
condition arose.  I went to see what I found, and had arranged with #1 boy that 
if it were decent, we would go in on it together.  Something to get him out of 
the basement and learning how to shade tree his own rides later on.

I went to see it on a cloudy/misty day and learned the PO had a penchant for 
older cars.  He is driving a '92 w190, but had an old SD at one point, and got 
this car (300D) on a lark, thinking he would restore it somehow.  Owner before 
him has sort of boogered the car up by installing seats out of an SE (w126) and 
they did not want to stay bolted down.  Windows had stopped working and were 
half down, so in our climate mold had set up shop.  The driver side doors had 
also developed a latching issue and would not remain shut.  There was obvious 
external rust on the rear quarter panel, but the fronts seemed solid.  Somebody 
had tried to renovate the car a number of years ago with generic carpet and 
padding on the floor, put bundts all around, installed the wrong battery, had 
aftermarket speakers front and back, messed up alligator texture original 
silver paint.

The no start was due to shakes went starts that had worn the cable to the 
starter until it snapped.  No electrons to the starter.  I saw that and while 
hooked to my W220 battery (jump attempt) had him glow the thing and try a start 
while I held the cable to the place on the starter it wanted to be.  I used 
heavy rubber gloves, but would not have complained if I was taken out by my own 
stupidity.  The thing did attempt to turn over.  So, that indicated that the 
engine was not seized and that the starter wanted to work.  Seemed like it 
might work for a messing around car.  

I returned home and shared my data with #1 boy.  He was noncommittal, which is 
fine.  I made interested noises to the seller, but told him I had a few other 
things to consider, so he should feel free to offer it to somebody with cash.  
His price was not in line with the value, and I was not going to waste cash or 
time getting the car in much better shape.  From what I had seen, this would be 
a great 24 Hours of LeMons car.  Strip it down and salvage what I could to fund 
the project.

Seller contacted me last week and said all the other tire kickers were far from 
interested.  If I wanted, he would sell for $400 or just take the $300 for 
scrap value, since he really needed it gone.  This time #1 boy was a bit more 
interested, and we made plans to drag the thing home.  I had hoped to put some 
fresh fuel in, and connect the starter cable, or build myself one.  As back up, 
I made up a 0 gauge cable and faked up a bumper guard for the pusher in case I 
could get it bump started.  And off he went in the pouring rain.

We arrived in good time and rousted the seller.  Poked around the car trying to 
get wires secured and the doors strapped shut.  Hooked the jumper cables to the 
battery and let some juice flow so that I could give it a start.  A quarter 
hour later, there were no electrons being saved in the battery and there was 
not enough juice to get the starter to engage, but there was enough for glow.  
I should mention that the ignition was hacked, and you needed to push on a 
mystery button under the steering column, sort of like the gorilla knob on Gump 
to get the plugs glowing.  That is as good as any car alarm for me.  We closed 
the deal and I had #1 boy give the car a push for an attempt at bump start.  At 
least we got out of the sellers neighborhood before I figured out there was not 
enough electron flow for the ignition to kick in and light off the engine.  We 
made it to a commercial center and I called AAA for a ride home.

I sat in the lot waiting for the truck for about an hour and a half.  Rain 
pouring down, windows open, driver seat unbolted and reclined back on the rear 
bench seat, and the mobile phone battery crapping out.  The section of town is 
not a prosperous one.  A very multicultural area where the cop cars are of 
the SUV/armored looking sort, not the dainty Crown Vic.  Many sirens and pairs 
of patrol cars responding to all manner of nefarious activities.  I am waiting 
for a brother or vato to walk up and knife me while I soak.

It did give me a chance to look over the interior a bit more.  Some salvageable 
parts I could offer on Fleabay.  I needed the old fashion AC control for 
Froggy. Some other parts would come in handy for selling.  Pull 

Re: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back

2015-03-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Bravo! Sounds like a fine father and son project.
-Curt

  From: clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 6:09 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] The W115 Strikes Back
   
May I not be forced to live in a cardboard box, but I am now half owner of a 
1975 300D.  SWMBA is out of state, so will not find out of this new toy for a 
few months

I think this is another of the K'leb tauntings that I ended up getting.  Like 
Gump, somebody on list made mention that I should look at this thing.  I put 
that thought on ignore until last month.  IIRC, the car listed for around $1k.  
Over time the value decreased and when I looked three weeks ago, CL had it at 
$650.  PO listed it as no start but had been driven all summer until no start 
condition arose.  I went to see what I found, and had arranged with #1 boy that 
if it were decent, we would go in on it together.  Something to get him out of 
the basement and learning how to shade tree his own rides later on.

I went to see it on a cloudy/misty day and learned the PO had a penchant for 
older cars.  He is driving a '92 w190, but had an old SD at one point, and got 
this car (300D) on a lark, thinking he would restore it somehow.  Owner before 
him has sort of boogered the car up by installing seats out of an SE (w126) and 
they did not want to stay bolted down.  Windows had stopped working and were 
half down, so in our climate mold had set up shop.  The driver side doors had 
also developed a latching issue and would not remain shut.  There was obvious 
external rust on the rear quarter panel, but the fronts seemed solid.  Somebody 
had tried to renovate the car a number of years ago with generic carpet and 
padding on the floor, put bundts all around, installed the wrong battery, had 
aftermarket speakers front and back, messed up alligator texture original 
silver paint.

The no start was due to shakes went starts that had worn the cable to the 
starter until it snapped.  No electrons to the starter.  I saw that and while 
hooked to my W220 battery (jump attempt) had him glow the thing and try a start 
while I held the cable to the place on the starter it wanted to be.  I used 
heavy rubber gloves, but would not have complained if I was taken out by my own 
stupidity.  The thing did attempt to turn over.  So, that indicated that the 
engine was not seized and that the starter wanted to work.  Seemed like it 
might work for a messing around car.  

I returned home and shared my data with #1 boy.  He was noncommittal, which is 
fine.  I made interested noises to the seller, but told him I had a few other 
things to consider, so he should feel free to offer it to somebody with cash.  
His price was not in line with the value, and I was not going to waste cash or 
time getting the car in much better shape.  From what I had seen, this would be 
a great 24 Hours of LeMons car.  Strip it down and salvage what I could to fund 
the project.

Seller contacted me last week and said all the other tire kickers were far from 
interested.  If I wanted, he would sell for $400 or just take the $300 for 
scrap value, since he really needed it gone.  This time #1 boy was a bit more 
interested, and we made plans to drag the thing home.  I had hoped to put some 
fresh fuel in, and connect the starter cable, or build myself one.  As back up, 
I made up a 0 gauge cable and faked up a bumper guard for the pusher in case I 
could get it bump started.  And off he went in the pouring rain.

We arrived in good time and rousted the seller.  Poked around the car trying to 
get wires secured and the doors strapped shut.  Hooked the jumper cables to the 
battery and let some juice flow so that I could give it a start.  A quarter 
hour later, there were no electrons being saved in the battery and there was 
not enough juice to get the starter to engage, but there was enough for glow.  
I should mention that the ignition was hacked, and you needed to push on a 
mystery button under the steering column, sort of like the gorilla knob on Gump 
to get the plugs glowing.  That is as good as any car alarm for me.  We closed 
the deal and I had #1 boy give the car a push for an attempt at bump start.  At 
least we got out of the sellers neighborhood before I figured out there was not 
enough electron flow for the ignition to kick in and light off the engine.  We 
made it to a commercial center and I called AAA for a ride home.

I sat in the lot waiting for the truck for about an hour and a half.  Rain 
pouring down, windows open, driver seat unbolted and reclined back on the rear 
bench seat, and the mobile phone battery crapping out.  The section of town is 
not a prosperous one.  A very multicultural area where the cop cars are of 
the SUV/armored looking sort, not the dainty Crown Vic.  Many sirens and pairs 
of patrol cars responding to all manner of nefarious activities.  I am waiting 
for a brother or vato to walk up